Comments on: Dodge struggles to clear out 2008 Ram inventory to make room for all-new model http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: olds307 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-379071 olds307 Tue, 06 May 2008 17:10:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-379071 I like the exterior appearance of the 09 better, but I'm not to sure about coil rear springs on a pick-up truck. Theres a reason trucks have maintained rear leaf springs 50+ years after cars went to coil. I don't know the reason, I'm not an engineer, but I do know that everything from half ton trucks up to International 4300s I used to drive for work all have rear leaf springs. I like the exterior appearance of the 09 better, but I’m not to sure about coil rear springs on a pick-up truck. Theres a reason trucks have maintained rear leaf springs 50+ years after cars went to coil. I don’t know the reason, I’m not an engineer, but I do know that everything from half ton trucks up to International 4300s I used to drive for work all have rear leaf springs.

]]> By: AxeHead http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378900 AxeHead Tue, 06 May 2008 05:10:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378900 Dodge Trucks are a problem for many reasons: 1) gas prices, 2) Dodge reliablity, 3) weak transmissions, 4) reliability and 5) reliability. I don't care how cheap they are - I can't afford the gas mileage and don't have the patience for my transmission blowing at 61,000k when the warrenty runs out. Dodge Trucks are a problem for many reasons: 1) gas prices, 2) Dodge reliablity, 3) weak transmissions, 4) reliability and 5) reliability. I don’t care how cheap they are – I can’t afford the gas mileage and don’t have the patience for my transmission blowing at 61,000k when the warrenty runs out.

]]> By: sprockkets http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378880 sprockkets Tue, 06 May 2008 03:31:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378880 Wait for the new model, with their temperature controlled seats and other unnecessary items. WTF? It's a truck, not a damn luxury vehicle. $40k for a truck? Unbelievable. There are so many people who get a Texas Ranch Super Duty Diesel just to go from point a to b. But hey, this is America, the land of waste. Wait for the new model, with their temperature controlled seats and other unnecessary items.

WTF? It’s a truck, not a damn luxury vehicle. $40k for a truck? Unbelievable. There are so many people who get a Texas Ranch Super Duty Diesel just to go from point a to b.

But hey, this is America, the land of waste.

]]> By: DrFill http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378836 DrFill Tue, 06 May 2008 00:14:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378836 If they stopped building the 2008s today, they could probably make it through the Summer. DrFill If they stopped building the 2008s today, they could probably make it through the Summer.
DrFill

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378821 A4 Mon, 05 May 2008 23:01:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378821 the 2009 RAM is not the same underneath RaineMan, i can guarantee you that. It is a huge departure from the current ram, particularly underneath. the 2009 RAM is not the same underneath RaineMan, i can guarantee you that. It is a huge departure from the current ram, particularly underneath.

]]> By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378793 RaineMan Mon, 05 May 2008 21:20:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378793 The 09 RAM looks a lot like the concept RAM from back in oh 2000. Dodge has just been slowly building towards it instead of releasing it as something totally new. Most trucks on the road are the same way. Swap a little sheet metal.. change the interior... and whamo... "all new" truck with 75% of the parts of the older model. Kinda like the Chevy/GMC/Caddy front ends on the trucks and SUVs being interchangable with very little work. It's the same vehicle underneath... and has been for years. The 09 RAM looks a lot like the concept RAM from back in oh 2000. Dodge has just been slowly building towards it instead of releasing it as something totally new. Most trucks on the road are the same way. Swap a little sheet metal.. change the interior… and whamo… “all new” truck with 75% of the parts of the older model.

Kinda like the Chevy/GMC/Caddy front ends on the trucks and SUVs being interchangable with very little work. It’s the same vehicle underneath… and has been for years.

]]> By: Dodge_fanatic9 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378780 Dodge_fanatic9 Mon, 05 May 2008 20:46:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378780 09 rams look so much better 09 rams look so much better

]]> By: cookie4me http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378750 cookie4me Mon, 05 May 2008 19:32:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378750 Why don't they just delay production of the 2009 until they clear more of them off the lots? Idle the factories for a month or two or maybe four. Why don’t they just delay production of the 2009 until they clear more of them off the lots? Idle the factories for a month or two or maybe four.

]]> By: hateful83 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378747 hateful83 Mon, 05 May 2008 19:26:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378747 What happened to the old supply and demand? Were they like, "we can shit out 100 of these a day, so we might as well." Maybe the truck market died off that quick and I just didn't realize. What happened to the old supply and demand? Were they like, “we can shit out 100 of these a day, so we might as well.” Maybe the truck market died off that quick and I just didn’t realize.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378733 xyunya Mon, 05 May 2008 19:09:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378733 jdasch1, I have several friends with Cummins who swear by 30 mpg on highway (with manual and all have 4WD). Even if they exaggerating 10-20% it is still very respectable for such large truck. The newest crop of aerodynamic semi's is designed to deliver 8 mpg vs. 4-5 of today. Check you numbers, Car & Driver is good source. jdasch1, I have several friends with Cummins who swear by 30 mpg on highway (with manual and all have 4WD). Even if they exaggerating 10-20% it is still very respectable for such large truck. The newest crop of aerodynamic semi’s is designed to deliver 8 mpg vs. 4-5 of today. Check you numbers, Car & Driver is good source.

]]> By: AMGoff http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378727 AMGoff Mon, 05 May 2008 19:01:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378727 jdasch1 - that's ridiculous... they have changed the look of the Ram several times since the radical redesign of '94, but they've been evolutionary not revolutionary. The same could be said of several manufacturers... the new F150 is only at the end of the line of evolutionary changed since the '97 redesign.... the same goes for the Silverado/Sierra. The Range Rover or even the Toyo Land Cruiser - both a long line of evolutionary redesigns... The BMW 3-series - all evolutionary redesigns since the 70s. Hell... you want the most blatant example? The Porsche 911... if you stand far away or squint and the brand new one looks like the same damn car that was made in the 60s. So it's completely unfair to say that they haven't changed the look over the past 15 years. johnnycanuck - that's a very good point that I forgot to mention. It does cost money for the dealers to have them sitting on the lot, especially with state taxes/fees/surcharges. I don't if it's the same everywhere else, but at least in this area, dealers have to pay some amount to the state on the inventory they have sitting on their lots. Either way... this marks a huge value for those who need a truck for their intended purpose - actual work. The only people who will put off buying one until the new model arrives are those more concerned with what the interior looks like. jdasch1 – that’s ridiculous… they have changed the look of the Ram several times since the radical redesign of ’94, but they’ve been evolutionary not revolutionary. The same could be said of several manufacturers… the new F150 is only at the end of the line of evolutionary changed since the ’97 redesign…. the same goes for the Silverado/Sierra. The Range Rover or even the Toyo Land Cruiser – both a long line of evolutionary redesigns… The BMW 3-series – all evolutionary redesigns since the 70s. Hell… you want the most blatant example? The Porsche 911… if you stand far away or squint and the brand new one looks like the same damn car that was made in the 60s. So it’s completely unfair to say that they haven’t changed the look over the past 15 years.

johnnycanuck – that’s a very good point that I forgot to mention. It does cost money for the dealers to have them sitting on the lot, especially with state taxes/fees/surcharges. I don’t if it’s the same everywhere else, but at least in this area, dealers have to pay some amount to the state on the inventory they have sitting on their lots.

Either way… this marks a huge value for those who need a truck for their intended purpose – actual work. The only people who will put off buying one until the new model arrives are those more concerned with what the interior looks like.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378721 xyunya Mon, 05 May 2008 18:49:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378721 Chrysler (GM, Ford) could solve their problem very easy. Say with $4/gallon you get 3000 gallons form the $12K discount. At 12 miles per gallon it is 36000K miles - 3 years of driving @12K miles/year. Issue 3 year gasoline card with each truck and see them go. Who wouldn't want to drive 36K miles for free? Even if you buy Prius you'll pay something for gas. There are a lot of details to be filled here, but this a basic idea. Chrysler (GM, Ford) could solve their problem very easy. Say with $4/gallon you get 3000 gallons form the $12K discount. At 12 miles per gallon it is 36000K miles – 3 years of driving @12K miles/year. Issue 3 year gasoline card with each truck and see them go. Who wouldn’t want to drive 36K miles for free? Even if you buy Prius you’ll pay something for gas. There are a lot of details to be filled here, but this a basic idea.

]]> By: jdasch1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378719 jdasch1 Mon, 05 May 2008 18:46:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378719 They seem to be everywhere because they have not changed the look of their truck since 1994. So the NEW 2009 truck will also look the same. Ford finally changed the look of theirs in 2008, and so did GM. Even at $10k off sticker, everyone is still concerned with at $4.00 a gallon for gas...$4.70 for diesel, "do I really need this truck?". Instead of "I really want this truck". Its interesting to see a Peterbuilt semi-truck with a 13 speed get 10 MPG loaded up, and an EMPTY 08 Superduty diesel get the same mileage. Some Duramax's and Cummins are also not getting much better than 12 MPG. The new emissions rules are killing the mileage on these trucks. We need 8 to 10 speed trannies in these pickups to justify the high price of gas/diesel. They seem to be everywhere because they have not changed the look of their truck since 1994. So the NEW 2009 truck will also look the same. Ford finally changed the look of theirs in 2008, and so did GM. Even at $10k off sticker, everyone is still concerned with at $4.00 a gallon for gas…$4.70 for diesel, “do I really need this truck?”. Instead of “I really want this truck”. Its interesting to see a Peterbuilt semi-truck with a 13 speed get 10 MPG loaded up, and an EMPTY 08 Superduty diesel get the same mileage. Some Duramax’s and Cummins are also not getting much better than 12 MPG. The new emissions rules are killing the mileage on these trucks. We need 8 to 10 speed trannies in these pickups to justify the high price of gas/diesel.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378715 johnnycanuck Mon, 05 May 2008 18:39:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378715 8-13K will buy a lot of fuel for that truck as well, AMGoff. It also costs money to just keep that truck on the lot. I wish I was in the market; with a little negotiating you could wind up with a screaming deal. 8-13K will buy a lot of fuel for that truck as well, AMGoff. It also costs money to just keep that truck on the lot. I wish I was in the market; with a little negotiating you could wind up with a screaming deal.

]]> By: olds307 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378703 olds307 Mon, 05 May 2008 18:21:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378703 In the South, Dodge Ram Pick-ups seem to be the most common vehicle on the road, here in NYC you hardly see any. In the South, Dodge Ram Pick-ups seem to be the most common vehicle on the road, here in NYC you hardly see any.

]]> By: AMGoff http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378685 AMGoff Mon, 05 May 2008 17:44:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378685 441Zuke... I sure hope you are placing that sentiment at the feet of every automaker, because it's pretty clear that all of them from Chrysler to the General to Ford to Toyota to Nissan - didn't see this coming. Anyway... it almost seems like this is getting spun to put Chrysler in an even worse-off place than they already are. People aren't running away from Chrysler's truck offerings... they're merely holding on to their money for the new one to come out... this happens to every model from every manufacturer. Sales of the Malibu dropped drastically in the months prior to the new one being released, the same went for the new CTS, or the new Accord, or the GMT900s, or, well.. just about anything. It's a double-edged sword... all of these manufacturers like to put out details for their new models months ahead of time in order to turn up the hype, but by doing so they have to deal with the fact that nobody is going to buy the model currently on the market. If nothing else... this marks presents a fantastic opportunity and value for those who actually buy trucks for their intended purpose (ie - those who do actual work with them and don't give two shits about things like "crappy interiors"). $8-13K is a hard deal to turn up if you really have a need for a full-size pickup.. 441Zuke… I sure hope you are placing that sentiment at the feet of every automaker, because it’s pretty clear that all of them from Chrysler to the General to Ford to Toyota to Nissan – didn’t see this coming.

Anyway… it almost seems like this is getting spun to put Chrysler in an even worse-off place than they already are. People aren’t running away from Chrysler’s truck offerings… they’re merely holding on to their money for the new one to come out… this happens to every model from every manufacturer. Sales of the Malibu dropped drastically in the months prior to the new one being released, the same went for the new CTS, or the new Accord, or the GMT900s, or, well.. just about anything.

It’s a double-edged sword… all of these manufacturers like to put out details for their new models months ahead of time in order to turn up the hype, but by doing so they have to deal with the fact that nobody is going to buy the model currently on the market.

If nothing else… this marks presents a fantastic opportunity and value for those who actually buy trucks for their intended purpose (ie – those who do actual work with them and don’t give two shits about things like “crappy interiors”). $8-13K is a hard deal to turn up if you really have a need for a full-size pickup..

]]> By: frylock350 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378681 frylock350 Mon, 05 May 2008 17:41:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378681 What this really shows you is how overpriced trucks have become. Theoretically a BOF vehicle is cheaper to build... Back in the day trucks were cheaper than full-size sedans. What this really shows you is how overpriced trucks have become. Theoretically a BOF vehicle is cheaper to build…

Back in the day trucks were cheaper than full-size sedans.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378670 xyunya Mon, 05 May 2008 17:29:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378670 I think RAM has the most personality since 1990's. Everybody giving their trucks away. Even at 9K factory incentive Chrysler will make money. Unfortunately, all manufacturers will start loosing money on trucks later in the year. I think RAM has the most personality since 1990′s. Everybody giving their trucks away. Even at 9K factory incentive Chrysler will make money. Unfortunately, all manufacturers will start loosing money on trucks later in the year.

]]> By: A True Gear Head http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378666 A True Gear Head Mon, 05 May 2008 17:27:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378666 They also have a hard time making quality vehicles They also have a hard time making quality vehicles

]]> By: El Aleman http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378662 El Aleman Mon, 05 May 2008 17:24:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378662 Four months equals about 122 days, so what's the problem? Four months equals about 122 days, so what’s the problem?

]]> By: 441Zuke http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378657 441Zuke Mon, 05 May 2008 17:15:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-struggles-to-clear-out-2008-ram-inventory-to-make-room-for-all-new-model.html#comment-378657 maybe you should have thought about that before you built to many of them, it is called market forecasting dumb asses. maybe you should have thought about that before you built to many of them, it is called market forecasting dumb asses.

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