Comments on: Dodge to cease Viper production in July; all-new model slated for 2012

By: ktulu

ktulu — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:38:28 +0000

dat gereen 1 is hot!

like Fergie

By: 1c3d0g

1c3d0g — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:12:00 +0000

Let’s hope the Viper retains its awesomeness and doesn’t turn into yet another Ferrari-clone.

By: BIG-KC

BIG-KC — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:08:20 +0000

Viper is screwed. Let’s take a engine capable of being reliable at 1500hp and throw in a 500hp Ferrari engine that will blow up in 50k miles. And because it is a Ferrari engine it will cost $130,000 for the base viper that is slower and gets worse fuel mileage. And if they do stick a V12 in it (Enzo engine) it will cost $180,000 for a base, get worse mileage and last 60,000 miles.

By: atoms

atoms — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:49:36 +0000

or maybe NASA…..

By: atoms

atoms — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:48:06 +0000

something like 10,000rpm and anything over 9k it spits blood and flames and makes women’s clothes fall off…..I’m sure ferrari has some technical insight on this

By: atoms

atoms — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:46:08 +0000

I’m guessing a large displacement V10 (but nothing bigger then the 8L it has now) that has direct injection and spins to such an astronomical level the space shuttle will officially have a replacement

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:41:13 +0000

I really don’t see them going with a forced induction V8 in the Viper. It makes no sense. If they have the money to make the car, they probably have the money to make it right, and we will see a V10 again, as it should be.

By: QR25SpecV

QR25SpecV — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:22:35 +0000

Please don’t change it. Not at all. It must have a huge V10, no new electronic gizmos, and still look beastly.

By: teahead

teahead — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:24:16 +0000

Same reason they put the same LS block in the ZR1…more economic.

By: g93

g93 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:08:31 +0000

why would they put a hemi in a viper?…its called a viper for a reason

By: CiNO

CiNO — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:34:43 +0000

King of the ring is going. I wonder if Fiat can make a better Viper.

By: 85ZingoGTR

85ZingoGTR — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:26:50 +0000

@ 928dreamer – It depends on the person and what qualities he’s looking for in a car. I see where you’re getting at though.

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:07:20 +0000

So will the new VIPER be more Race car than Muscle Car?

By: teahead

teahead — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:01:57 +0000

I see a turbo-charged 6.4 all aluminum Hemi being the 2012 powerplant.

650hp should suffice.

Get rid of the roadster. Just need a coupe.

By: sal500

sal500 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:14:39 +0000

If you want a Viper, you get one it’s that simple. You don’t shop all over the place! If price was the consideration, then there are 50 cars you could look at for 100K that are all great and fast but different in character and statement.

By: leftwingagenda

leftwingagenda — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:18 +0000

i don’t really see vipers being cross shopped frequently with maseratis…if you’re seriously considering buying a new viper you’re basically admitting you’re loony tunes…and by that i mean 1) crazy and 2) fine with cartoon-character looks to your ride…the guy that’s ok with #2 probably isn’t in for the sleek look of a maserati…in my naive opinion part of the allure of a viper is that they say “holy shit, look at me”, and most people wouldn’t recognize a maserati even if one ran them over in the street…

By: 928dreamer

928dreamer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:12:02 +0000

@85ZingoGTR-I disagree, the only thing a Maserati has in common with the Viper is price, and now also the parent company. Someone looking to buy a Viper may cross shop other sports cars (Porsche GT3, Corvette, Panoz, ect.), but not likely luxury GT cruisers, A Maser, is not a sports car. It is a decision between completely different types of car.

By: 85ZingoGTR

85ZingoGTR — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:57 +0000

@ Kingknet – Where have you been my friend? The Alfa Romeo 8C has been sold in the states. Its their first model since their return.

@ NMOFGM – You’re right. Americans do value quality over performance. Which is why Toyota and Honda sells plenty and GM doesn’t. As Willy Wonka would say. “You lose!! Good day sir!!”

@ 928dreamer – Sure people will cross shop the two. Maserati Gran Turismo and a Viper is about the same price range. Of course each car has its difference. (ex. one is 2+2 coupe and the other only carries 2, one person may want an american sports car and the other an italian one) But its not the first time I see someone simply looking for anything general sports coupe within the price range.

By: shaver

shaver — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:18:42 +0000

Make it the fastest $100K car available.

By: save saab

save saab — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:12:04 +0000

As much as I’m sad to see the current Viper go away I can’t wait for the new one. However, I don’t want any Ferrari Magneto F1 electroicy make you drive like Micheal Schumacher crap or a dual-clutch gearbox or else it’s a cheap Ferrari. What I want is a Supercharged Hemi V8 (V10s’ and V12s’ com’on people this is an American Muscle car but maybe a v10 cause that’s what the Viper currently has) with around 600-650 hp and it should have no electronics, no trick suspension and a true manual gearbox.

By: F50

F50 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:29:41 +0000

Keep it simple, don’t add all the Ferrari gadgets, otherwise it would overlap too much.

I’d love to see a V10 or V12 Hemi. A V12 Hemi would be great in a LWB 300C Imperial.

By: 928dreamer

928dreamer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:16:43 +0000

85ZingoGTR
No one will be cross shopping Maseratti and a Viper. They are about as different in charactor as you can get.

Its like saying. I’d take a Bentley over that lotus Elise.

By: 928dreamer

928dreamer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:11:02 +0000

They need to remember the purpose of this car was to have a raw testosterone fueled hardcore sports/muscle car. Any attempt to refine this too much or make it more luxurious will lessen it.

It needs to keep the large displacement and keep luxury items to a minimum. Otherwise, it probably wouldn’t be a bad thing to inject some Ferrari know how into the Viper. They do know a thing or two about building fast and beautiful cars.

This would be their chance to build a raw unappplogetic sports car.

By: worst 3

worst 3 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:02:18 +0000

well i’m said to see it go but if it comes backs and it not right its ok. as long as it still keep it electronic free a real manual and has a large disparagement v10 or v12 that i will be happy that cant take some serious supercharging or turbocharging.
if it has some stupid Ferrari engine it will destroy the viper. i hope they make it a mid mounted front engine like some supper cars and keep it similar and have it produced 650+hp. I hope they keep the engineering in America.

By: Sector_15504

Sector_15504 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:22:36 +0000

They are going to rename the Fiat 500 Abarth to Dodge Viper.

By: gehrhardt

gehrhardt — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:21:07 +0000

I wonder if the special edition ones would have a supercharged Hemi in them instead of the V10… That would be nice.

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:20:57 +0000

Needs a massive displacement V10 and none of that electronic bull like the Manettino or whatever the hell its called in Ferrari’s. Keep it true to the Viper name.

By: Need more oil for GM

Need more oil for GM — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:17:56 +0000

No loss. Everyone would rather drive a Corvette anyways. Americans value quality as much as performance so Chryco losses.

Chryco won’t even be around in 2012 so the second line is false.

Victims of the American Revolution.

Be American. Buy American. buy GM. It is your patriotic obligation

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:53:02 +0000

The new one will be powered by a 1.2L Fiat 4-cylinder.

By: kingknet

kingknet — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:51:32 +0000

Can anything say Alfa Romero’s 8C is coming state side? Very nice. Anything they come up with, will be a big upgrade compared to what the Viper is or was.

By: andy

andy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:49:40 +0000

it will be a cheap Ferrari, like the R8 is a cheap Lambo… im guessing that’s what Tony is playing at

By: spg900

spg900 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:31:58 +0000

As much as I am not a fan of 8 litre engines, I hope this does not just become a cheap Ferrari. Variety is good, even when there is no technology involved.

By: NRG

NRG — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:48 +0000

Good news, but like most of the masses, I will bever be able to afford one, no matter who makes it. It’s always nice to dream though.

By: 85ZingoGTR

85ZingoGTR — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:20:27 +0000

Seriously. For the price of the Viper and the fact that it’ll use a Ferrari engine, I’ll take a Maserati over this thing.

By: reedfast

reedfast — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:15:33 +0000

well, the price will go up unimaginably, but this should be one sick viper.

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:14:48 +0000

I’m just not seeing the evidence here kids. You know… that Chrysler’s destiny is to end up on the wrong end of a pointy Italian boot. They keep feeding us stuff like this… now why would they do that if their only goal was to pave the way for Fiat to return to America. Hmmm, maybe it is just a ploy and I’m not seeing it. Or maybe Marchionne is just the first real leader they’ve had since some guy named Lee… what was his last name now? It’ll come to me.

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:11:43 +0000

Viperrari will be sweet though. I don’t think anyone should be sad to see this go if Ferrari has anything to do with a new one. Imagine… A Ferrari for $80k… Nice!

By: aesir

aesir — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:05:08 +0000

The only other engine, I would want to see in this besides a V10 is a V12.

By: sctdiverdown

sctdiverdown — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:02:41 +0000

Well – get it while you can ……..before it turns into a “Ferr-iper”