It’s amazing what modern technology can do for you. Even if turbo charging has been around for a while, but wasn’t discovered at Ford (or ecoboosted).

Did the Ecoboost win a Wards 10 Best Engines award yet? I gotta admit. This engine is brilliant. It feels like a V8 too, yet its fuel efficient like a V6. Only difference is that it doesn’t sound like a V8 but who cares? And the best part of it all is that it doesnt use variable cylinder management which in my opinion is something too complicated and high tech to use in a car you plan on having for awhile.

While Toyota specifically stated that they will be upping the engine displacement of their vehicles, runthem at lower RPMS to save fuel and the extra displacement will give them a power boost, Ford has been working on this. Toyota’s bigger displacement engines can’t compete with this.

Your Comment

i am so excited about his ecoboost tech. Ever since i saw what it did for BMWs i thought, well hell what a great idea to implement in domestics.

It just go’s to show you the power of smart marketing. Ford didn’t plow any really new ground with a direct injected turbo V6. What they did is give it a name. If you look how far they have come this past 12 months, you have to take your hat off to them. With a really minimal refresh, the have completely turned the Fusion into a best seller. The Taraus is a reskined 500. The Focus is 2 generations behind the european version. The Mustang , although lagging a bit, has survived without IRS (and proved that a solidly engineered Non IRS can handle well). Come Dec when Ford introduces the public to the new engines for its Mustang, it will be more then a match for the Camaro

Back in the late 80’s or early 90’s (before they were poisoned by GM), SAAB was experimenting with a turbo 1 litre V8. I know it sounds weird but they really were ahead of their time. I could only imagine what could have come from this experimentation 20 yrs. later.Good on you Ford,better late than never.

Ford has made great stride in their reliability, but eighties turbo cars put alot of mechanics kids through college. Hopefully the reliability of turbos has improved.

Great Ford! Keep it up and you will school the other American automakers to get their act together. Now one of the things they need to do in order for Ford to stay profitable is to keep those damn unions in check!

I agree with cocojoe on the marketing aspect… whoever it was that came up with Ecoboost should be given a medal. If they had plastered ‘3.5l 24v twin turbo direct injected V6′ on the back of all of these it would have had most customers cowering in the fetal position.

Keep up the good work Ford! The MKT we drove with the ecoboost engine was sweet. Luxury, power, and all from the US!! Doesn’t get any better. I can’t wait till the 1.0 ecoboost is released!

I have to say Ford is doing well with these new motors. Sounds like quite they will fare very with the profits on them too. That being said, there profits from me at least with the Flex or that awful looking lincoln on the picture for this article. Please make the front end look nice so I will consider a vehicle with the Ecotech!

^ shoot I meant ecoboost not ecotech

This was a great idea by Ford; supposedly the EcoBoost engines get the same mpg as the regular engine but with increase HP.

The Technology is great but a HEMI got the exact same MPG and more Horsepower 3 Years ago.

2007 Dodge Charger R/T Review
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/09/29/023532.html

So why would you buy a Twin Turbo V-6 when you can have a HEMI ?

-Sarge

Allright, Ford is making tons of money now. It’s time for profit sharing with it’s dedicatng UAW work force. Ford would be in the same fate as GM and Chrysler now had it not for the hard work of us UAW workers. That’s why we rightfully strucked down the scam from Ford which tried to cut our hard earned wages to GM and Chrysler’s levels, and forced us to do things we weren’t born to do. All of you UAW bashers out there, lool at this report and shut the f!ck up. We are right and justified in what we do.

Hitler thought he was “right and justified” You UAW morons are wrong I’ll be glad when Ford doesn’t renew your contracts and moves production to Canada or Mexico where they happily build more relliable cars than you ungrateful bolt turners.

Ion – Do you think CAW up in Canada is any better than the UAW? Any union involvement is bad anywhere. Unions once had a place in the industry. Now the cause more problems than anything else.

AFSOCSARGE,
because a hemi is a huge useless engine that is only made for straight lines! The 5.7 hemi in the magnum never got the mileage written on the window sticker. They are praising themselves for getting such huge numbers, they are proud to have an engine with even better power than some current v8’s while having better mpg, and saving some weight. With that said, give me an ecoboost any day!

Ford’s EcoBoost technology is nice but then their is the Hemi:

MDS HEMI Earns Ward’s 2009 “10 Best Engines” Award

All-new HEMI with Fuel-Saving MDS Technology Earns Ward’s 2009 “10 Best Engines” Award

Refined 5.7-liter HEMI Delivers Improved Fuel Economy, Even More Power and Torque

All-new 5.7-liter HEMI engine recognized by Wardd’s for powertrain excellence
Sixth “10 Best Engine Award” for 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine
Expanded utilization of Chrysler’s fuel-saving Multi-displacement System (MDS) operation
More power: as much as 390 horsepower
More torque: as much as 410 lb.-ft. of torque

Auburn Hills, Mich., Jan 7, 2009 – Now in its second generation, the legendary 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine has once again earned a place on Ward’s distinguished “2009 10 Best Engines” list. Relentlessly delivering powertrain excellence, Chrysler LLC has earned Ward’s “10 Best” award six times in the last seven years with the iconic 5.7-liter HEMI engine.

http://www.thehemi.com/news.php?id=20090108-1

Check This Out

The V-8 HEMI Carger 17/25

The V-6 3.0 Camry 20/28

The V-6 TT Taurus 17/25

I’ll take the HEMI everytime

-Sarge

The CAW is willing to negotiate which is better than nothing.

CarsNut,
Is that why you guys are going to go on another strike because your sorry ass doesn’t want to brake a nail? You guys want everything your way, and act like you run the company! You should be happy you have a job…but I guess that doesn’t matter because they gay unions protect your jobs! UAW are ruining our auto industry! Plain and simple! I can’t wait for the day when the unions turn belly side up!

idrinorbarsaku

Dude “Useless” well lets see it just won an Award so how is it useless? It gets the same MPG at the Eco-boost without Turbos that could fail ? the 2011 HEMI will be Aluminum so it will be lighter than to Eco-boost Twin Turbo !

I’d take a Pin Wheel Engine that ran off of Fairy Farts if it made More Horsepower and the same MPG ! so how does that make any sense? Those are EPA Numbers for all 3 so why would you have an engine with less Power and Torque and the same MPG ?

-Sarge

cool! no one cares about your hemi! Go speak about how sh!tty chrysler is doing or something!
Unless that award propels that car, then it continues to be a heavy, useless engine…unless you plan on only driving straight!

Now, take those fairy parts and be gone! Go troll some other site!

So Carsnut, have fun sitting in the unemploment line when the company you work for goes belly-up because they can’t compete with their crosstown competitors in labor costs. Good job genius. Yeah they really tried to “pull one over on you” by striving to be competitive. THOSE BASTARDS!! How dare they try and be successful! It’s clearly up to the unions to drag them down and end these silly notions of a future without bankruptcy.

I love how one of the “concessions” that was so objected to was to bring their compensation down to the levels of UAW workers at Toyota and Honda plants. What barbarism! And we wonder why the Japanese have been eating our lunch for 20 years.

sarg
hemi FWD charger 23mpg… Today’s current rating

eccoboost AWD MXS 25 mpg… Today’s current rating

This fuel economy ratings changed after 2007 sarge so you need to take that into account as well as the fact that AWD is harder on gas then a FWD

Eccoboost 1
Hemi 0

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

I am normally not a fan of Ford really but I have to say they have done a great job developing and executing this engine, job well done.

And hell no on the hemi, 1st any Nissan VQ, 2nd the ecoboost,………..78th anything dodge

i’d buy a Ford Twin Force engine if they offered it but screw this Ecoboost crap.

Good job for Ford, proves what hard work and effort can do for you. Now get rid of Lincoln and make Mercury the new luxury brand, the MKT looks like a smiling whale.

zeegone

That is Why Nissan Trucks Will Be Dodges

Chrysler Will Make Full Size Light Duty Truck for Nissan

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/news/nissan/titan/chryslertitan2.html

Nissan Knows Quality When They Buy It ! LOL Dodges with Nissan Badges !

Case Closed Zeegone !

-Sarge

Hey zeegone

“Does That Nissan Have A HEMI ?” Hell Yeah It Does !

Ms. Le Greves notes Titan production will end at Canton in December 2010 and will start at Chrysler’s plant in Saltillo, Mexico in January 2011.

It’s Nissan’s intent to offer multiple engine choices in the new truck. Some motors may be sourced from Chrysler and shared with the Dodge Ram.

“The fact that we are partnering with Chrysler on Titan will help us to offer a bigger range of engine choices to our customers, but we have not decided yet which engines we will take from Chrysler,” says Ms. Le Greves.

Nissan only offers a 5.6-Liter V8 engine in the Titan today.

Nissan would also like access to Chrysler’s new two mode hybrid powertrain that will be available in the Dodge Ram starting in 2010.

“We hope that we can look at that (as part of Chrysler’s engine offerings), says Ms. Le Greves.
http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/news/nissan/titan/chryslertitan2.html

-Sarge

no one cares about your damn hemi! Go post your crap somewhere else!

Zeegone,
Funny post:)

The HEMI engine was another really good marketing ploy. As you already know it’s not a very radical design, but it’s now very well known. But what most people don’t know is that it can also increase fuel economy, as less heat is lost in the cylinders and make a better burn cycle. Why they haven’t put it in a four cylinder, I don’t know, but probably because of it’s image as a “muscle engine”. But as the times have changed, it would be cool to see a small, turbo four cylinder “HEMI” engine.

idrinorbarsaku
no one cares about your damn hemi! Go post your crap somewhere else!

Zeegone,
Funny post:)
I’ll Post where I Please You Commie Whiner That Is Why Nissans will Have Hemi Engines!

You are a Joke! Nothing you have posted Not One Fact. You are a Little Girl Whinner

-Sarge

Whoa and out comes the name-calling…………..I guess we hit a nerve. It really is more a shame that besides being associated with power and durability Dodge/Chrysler has become more well associated with cheap.

WTF are you smoking? Since when was chrysler going bankrupt not a fact? The engine is heavier. Thats a fact! The engine makes handling worse, that’s a fact!

Learn how to write, you 13 year old, “little girl whinner”…is spelled WHINER!
“Nothing you have posted Not One Fact.”….ummm…go back to school…that makes no sense!

If you only are looking at US engines, wait till the ecoboost gets in the fight, it will own them all!

Want some real engine awards, look it up here, other wise, shut your yap! http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/categories.html

I still don’t even know why you are even to protective of that stupid, HUGE, useless, underpowered, monstrosity of an engine!

Bubs–charger is RWD.

I think I read somewhere that the HEMI engine sold today isn’t an actual HEMI (a true “hemi” engine has hemispherical cylinder tops–hence the “hemi” name) it’s just branded as a HEMI for marketing purposes, same as EcoBoost.

idrinorbarsaku
Dude What Ever! Like I Stated “You” posted No Facts “Nothing” Period ! Do you understand that? I’ll go back to school when you show me your Engineering Degree. My Point was Simple Why would you want a Twin Turbo V-^ when you can have an Engine with More Horsepower and More Torque with the same MPG ? Was that to difficult ? No you started making Claims that is was A Heavy Straight-line Engine which is Strange to sate Since it was Designed for NASCAR and not the Drag Strip !

“Whiner” “Whinnier” I don’t use the word often because I hardly come in contact with them. Yo started it when I praised the Ford Engine I just had a question on it’s lack of improvement over the HEMI.

-Sarge

zeegone

He Started The Name Calling Not I !

Check The Thread

Now, take those fairy parts and be gone! Go troll some other site!
11/13, 4:32 PM

-Sarge

idrinorbarsaku

I still don’t even know why you are even to protective of that stupid, HUGE, useless, underpowered, monstrosity of an engine!

I still don’t even know why you are even to protective of that stupid ?

“why you are even to protective”

Is that “English” Professor ?

-Sarge

whatever, you just keep on coming up with lame excuses… as wideopenthrottle stated, the hemi 5.7 isn’t the real hemi, and was a by-product of mercedes!

Learn how to read a sentence!

The 5.7 hemi sucks!

^^ both of you, please shut up.

Sarge – The fuel economy ratings have changed and as of now:

Dodge Charger 5.7L V8: 16/25

Ford Tarus Ecoboost V6: 17/25

5.7 HEMI HP: 368

3.5 Ecoboost: 365

The Ford handles better, but you can take your pick, I don’t really care.

Also guys, stop the name calling

These are modest variances
When you run out of powertrains
Like what has happened periodically with Toyota’s Prius
Give me a call

If you’re spending $40k on a Ford
Call Dr Kevorkian first!
DrFill

Hey everybody,the eco-boost SUCKS,just like Ford!

You know, Fordman makes an excellent point!

Since Ford’s are chronically overweight and out of shape, like most of America
Putting a bigger engine into a huge body just makes it competitive
Factor in the extra cost to get a decent engine out of Ford
And you have a poor value

Most companies can give you the same power/economy
With less weight
Less power
And a much lower cost

Not that a typical Ford buyer would sweat such market tenets
DrFill

And the above two comments just made the world lose .05 IQ points. Keep it up guys. You’re making for a dumber world.

drinorbarsaku
whatever, you just keep on coming up with lame excuses
What Excuses ? Show me an Excuse ?

Facts I gave you Facts Period

You Gave Me:
“stupid, HUGE, useless, underpowered, monstrosity of an engine!”

Wow, now those are great arguments

-Sarge

Aggie
What you just said is the most insanely idiotic statement I’ve ever heard
At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, did you say anything that could be considered a rational thought
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it
I award you no points
And may God have mercy on your soul!
DrFill

aggie531

The comparison was in the Chrysler 300 and the Lincoln

From Frord Motor Company Website

2010 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost

AWD 16/23
http://www.lincoln.com/mks/performance.asp

-Sarge

Sarge- you are old and out of shape, the hemi sucks plain and simple and everyone on this post is against you. Have fun in your big awesome hemi while you’re being blown away by my VQHR and the ecoboost engine next to me with less hp and torque. Again, a shame. You lose! (again and again).

DrFill- Are you splitting hairs here, or just trying to make a fool of yourself?

Ford Flex- Curb weight 4450 ibs, horsepower= 355, 0-60= 6.5 sec
T. Sienna- Curb weight 4300 ibs, horsepower= 277, 0-60= 8 sec
H.Entourage- Curb weight 4400 ibs, horsepower= 250, 0-60= 8.2 sec

The Sienna only beats the horribly outdated and unreliable Entourage by .2 seconds!
And that time probably includes the amount of time it took for mechanics to fix it.
And the Flex with the ecoboost… no, it’s not “just competitive”, it’s better.
Only two comparable vehicles that are slower?
The awd Flex with the 3.5 v6, at 8.8, and the Odyssey at 9 secs.
Fuel economy is only one point worse than the sienna for the ecoboost, with an extra 100 horses btw…

The ecoboost engine is incredible! You can compare it to others and it will still stand out. The fact that people stupid enough to need to compare it to, I don’t know, a hemi engine(!) just proves they are pissed off that ford has come out with a great engine. It also proves they have never driven this beast of an engine!

idrinorbarsaku

It is an incredible engine that is why it is being compared I truly think it is a fantastic advancement. My issue is is it’s Performance vs it’s Fuel economy of other engines it competes against.

The Fact is that Ford it’s Self Compares it Performance to European Performance Sedans.
V6 EcoBoost engine vs V8
2010 Lincoln MKS with V6 EcoBoost engine vs V8 competitors in the 15 part video. Learn all about The 6 vs 8 Showdown, watch the four competitors climb Loveland Pass and see the challenge from the drivers’ point of view.
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/10-12-09page-V6-EcoBoost-engine-vs-V8.htm

Ford thinks it is an intelligent idea

-Sarge

After the Mustang GT comes out with the new more powerful V8, they should drop the turbo 6 in to the Mustang, at least detuned a little not to step on the V8’s shoes. I know Ford was mulling it over and it’s probably unlikely but it be cool to see a turbo 6 Mustant out there. In doing so the V8 GT would be pushed up market letting the 6 go up against the mighty 370z and having a chance. The current V8 GT really needs to go, too slow as it is.

Hey zeegone

A HEMI Powered Station Wagon Beats A Z Car !

Nissan 350z and Dodge Magnum Rt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCv7lgjCWxY&NR=1

The Magnum ran 14.1 on both runs and the 350 was running 14.3 in these vids. The 350 did hit a 14.0 later in the day..

Facts, Evidence and Proof !

They are “ALL” on my side to support what I state !

Case Closed!

-Sarge

what a nut job you are….you clearly can’t understand…such a shame to even waste time arguing with you!

Hey zeegone

Nissan 350Z vs Dodge Charger ILLEGAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1L-rkWE00&feature=related

Another Z Car Bites The Dust !

-Sarge

idrinorbarsaku
I agree with you 100% so what do you mean ? You are correct the EcoBoost is a beast of and engine, I’m not arguing with you at all. I think the Twin Turbo EcoBoost is one of the best engines Ford has ever produced.

-Sarge

idrinorbarsaku
Like I sated I have given you facts and you give me Opinion, you have yet to explain or substantiate your case with any facts. So there you go again with the Name Calling. I ask you for something to support your opinion and you can’t , then you start with the name calling. It is you who is coming up short not I,there is no argument because you have nothing to support your view point.

-Sarge

Try researching an 07-09 Z with the HR motor, adios hemi. That’s great with all your links, I can do the same Sarge

My view point? My view point is that a huge 5.7 leader has no business being in this conversation! You wanted fact, I gave them! I will repeat them if you forgot — smaller displacement with great power, lower weight, efficient, faster than the 5.7, newer design. For the hemi, weighs a ton, not HP efficient for a whopping 5.7 liter, reduces handling because most of the engine weight is over the front wheels.

I still don’t get what you are trying to argue!?! Are you arguing about who had the facts now? I think you just don’t know when to stop! I don’t care what you respond with…I’m done wasting my time talking to you about your stupid hemi engine!

thanks drfill, you’re so original.

Hmmm……

Ford lied about the cost of Ecoboost (remember it would only cost $700.00?), and then they lied about the efficiency of the engine. Ford said it would make V8 power with V6 fuel economy. That’s a bold-faced lie.

Hyundai, of all automakers, makes a V8…with more displacement, more power, and more cylinders…and it gets the same mileage as a 3.5 V6 from Ford.

Ford really needs to ditch the utter garbage line up it has here in North America and start building good, reliable, quality, desirable cars that people want to buy. I’m talking about the Mondeo, Euro Focus, Kuga, Falcon.

Kuga > Escape
Falcon >>>>>>>>> Taurus
Euro Focus > American pile
Mondeo > Hideous Fusion

Either alot of people want the Taurus SHO… or not many want the naturally aspirated version of the car. Either way I’ve still only seen one on the road… I really hope it sells for them.

Jay
I didn’t know the Ford Flex was a Minivan?
Since you are comparing it to minivans, it must be a minivan
Thanks for the education!

Now for some real knowledge
According to Car&Driver
Ford Flex SEL w/EcoBoost
$40k BASE PRICE
4800+ lbs
0-60 in 6 sec
15 MPG observed
70-0 190 ft
83 cu ft behind 1st row

Mazda CX-9
$31k+ base price
0-60 7.7 sec
18 MPG observed
70-0 173 ft

Toyota Highlander Sport
$30k base price
0-60 in 7 sec
21 MPG observed
70-0 177 ft
95 cu ft space

Highlander Hybrid (tested by Edmund’s Inside Line)
$34k+ base price
0-60 in 7.5 sec
24-28.6 MPG observed

Toyota Sienna LImited AWD
$37k+ base price
0-60 7.7 sec
17 MPG
149 cu ft behind 1st row

You want a SHO, another $40k

Moral of the story, anyone spending $40k+ for a Ford
Not a very good shopper
And probably can’t spell the word Value
DrFill

Ford sold 1200 SHO’s last month
About the same as Hyundai Genesis sedans
Let me know when it’s time to be impressed
DrFill

SHO’s aren’t meant to be sold like bread and butter item, retard! 1200 units is more than acceptable considering it’s the ultimate version!

@ idrinorbarsaku

You have an obvious distaste for American based manufacturers. I have read your posts elsewhere with your explanations to your past issues with GM. Well, guess what, my family has only had GM’s too my whole life, and I drive one now. Never had issues with them.

Because of this, I have no issue with buying only GM. Obviously, you’re the opposite. But come on already, give it a rest with constant bashing, it is old. We all get it, you don’t like American cars.

The only retard here is you
And A4
And Aggie
And Smegley
And………
DrFill

idrinorbarsaku

In my part of the country we would say “You Got Served Brother !”

Hmmm……

Ford lied about the cost of Ecoboost (remember it would only cost $700.00?), and then they lied about the efficiency of the engine. Ford said it would make V8 power with V6 fuel economy. That’s a bold-faced lie.

Hyundai, of all automakers, makes a V8…with more displacement, more power, and more cylinders…and it gets the same mileage as a 3.5 V6 from Ford.

-The Realist

drinorbarsaku The Realist proves my point 100% !!

You are so Wrong !

-Sarge

@AFSOCSARGE: You are desperate, clearly… P

rpmfan,
good for you, I could give a sh!t how they have been for you. I only care how they have been for us!

“obvious distaste for American based manufacturers.”
–Really? Is that why I’m rooting for ford, and made my dad buy a ford for my mom? Get real, read more into these posts, and think just a bit before writing stupid comments, which making yourself look like an idiot…which is clearly shown from your last post! It’s like you just woke up for the first time in 3 years, and this was the first thread you opened up! I will keep on saying what I want to say, and taking advise from you is something that will never happen!

Yaroukh

@AFSOCSARGE: You are desperate, clearly… P

No I’m “Correct” !

As I stated you just can’t make Blind Unsubstantiated statements and get away with it. No desperation at all I strive for accuracy only.

-Sarge

@idrinorbarsaku

How old are you? 13? Real keyboard tough guy, aren’t you?

So you care only about you guys? No kidding, but you post constantly just to bash American made cars, specifically GM, and it gets old.

I think all those years in college has only continued to contribute to your maturity, or lack thereof.

Btw, it wasn’t advice, it was a suggestion to STFU already!

Oh yea, I would take a Hemi first also.

rpmfan

You have “idrinorbarsaku” pegged ! He’ll deny facts and reason at all cost, you give him correct numbers and facts and he totally disregards them. He assumes that when he “Believes Something” it makes it true. I have proved his statements wrong over and over again but continues saying the same thing over and over again when he knows he is wrong. He is truly amazing.

-Sarge

rpmfan,
I’m shocked you got all that, and think I’m a tough guy from my last statement!
You’re stupid…along with that AFSOCSARGE moron!

AFSOCSARGE,
So, what facts did I deny? I told you things about that engine, if you don’t believe them, you are DUMB! The funny thing is that I’m not the only one one here who has been saying the same thing…but for some reason, you are putting it all against me. I don’t care though, keep it coming. It only makes you guys look desperate to be arguing a lame point, even though this is a ford ecoboost sales thread! Like I said, keep it coming with your garbage…maybe you’ll stink this place up so much that you’ll get banned!

AFSOCSARGE

Nissan had planned to partner with Chrysler to build the next-gen Titan off the current Dodge Ram 1500 platform but those plans were mutually called off in August.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/11/nissans-ghosn-says-titan-to-keep-on-truckin.html

Dr Fill- Really, you didn’t know?
That it was supposed to replace the Freestar and Freestyle/Taurus X?
Your become increasing blind every single day!
SO… on what level does it compete with any of those vehicles? Space and dimensions? Nope. Available features and seating arrangements? Nope.
I’ve told you what it competes with, and now you need to listen!
But if you want to play that game…
You can get a non-ecoboost Ford Flex, which will get you 0-60 only one second slower than the Highlander Sport, but with more space, better equipment and similar fuel economy for the same price!
Also, are you trying to mislead people?
You said 83 cubic feet for the Flex, behind the front passenger seats…
and then went on to compare that to 95 for ALL of the highlander!
I don’t know about you, but I don’t enjoy lying when I can be right without it.

From Car and Driver:

Ford Taurus SHO
0-60 5.2
1/4 Mile 13.9
Skidpad .80
Curb Weight 4350
MPG 17/25
Pricing w/ similar options $38,690

Dodge Charger
0-60 5.7
1/4 Mile 14.3
Skidpad .77
Curb Weight 4135
MPG 16/25
Pricing w/ similar options $37,590

Let’s face it. The SHO is faster and around the same price with similar options. If Ford dropped this engine in Australia’s Falcon, it would run circles around the Charger. The engine doesn’t have a torque curve. It’s more of a straight line at 350 ft. lbs.

arumage

I fully agree with you fully my point is just as yours depending on the Platform The EcoBoost engine produces great power and all around performance. They are going to put it in the Mustang here Stateside. My issue was it’s Power, Torque and MPG compared to V8s. Thanks for the facts you presented I love the V8 Super car Races pitting the Ford against the Holden !

-Sarge

I’ve never been much of a Ford fan, but I must give them some well deserved credit. Yes the Mustang is overweight, but so are the Camaro and Challenger. Ford is definitely moving in the right direction with their strides in technology and design. Keep it up Ford, and I may buy American in the short future.

Oh, I’m loving my Nissan VQ engine. It’s already been rebuilt once in 40k miles due to faulty timing chain glides.
Bring on the EcoBoost! I just hope that in 5 years the forums are full of failed engine/turbo reports….

are = are not