Well, I hope Californians like small cars because I see no technical way for tougher regulations without smaller cars.

Again, I tell people to buy up as many V-8’s as fiscally possible and store in a cheap, foreclosed warehouse only to wait and be millionaires in 10 years. Mark my words – the muscle cars now are the next generation’s collectors and will post huge $$$.

Whatever happened to that guy in Ohio that was posting something like 70+ MPG in his 80’s Mustang 5.0? Isn’t he running in the X-Prize competition? If there’s anything to what he’s doing, he’s really set to make a ton of money and change the auto industry forever. Just think, with this kind of tech, super strict emissions regs in Cali wouldn’t prevent you from driving a super car or other large engine vehicle.

^^^ And I thought pulling in 30 mpg in mixed driving with the AC on in my GTI was good…

Welcome to California, new home of the world’s slowest 0-60 times!

Please, just fall into the ocean already…

Those who hate CARB should have been there. I grew up in LA and cant tell you how much I miss the smog alerts we used to have. The good old days, sometimes you could not even see the Hollywood sign from 3 miles away.

“moves us towards a policy that ensures that consumers in all 50 states have access to highly fuel efficient vehicles at an affordable price,”

Dave McCurdy must enjoy living in his own little world, where this will:
A. Keep vehicles at an “affordable price” and
B. The 10 states that will adopt this actually equal 50, as this will not ensure consumers in 50 states but on a small handful.

Ridiculous. Just utterly and pathetically ridiculous…

Oh, does he realize that the emissions coming from the tail pipe of a Porsche 911 are cleaner than the air in California? He should be grateful to have cars in these states!!!

@jayjc08

They don’t care about smog producing pollutants anymore, that’s yesterday’s news. Now they’re worried about the evil, invisible, odourless, tasteless, menace that will eventually kill us all! On the plus side, if the ocean does rise the insane amount they claim, most of California should be underwater anyway. Then they’ll start regulating the fuel mileage on your boat.

Well, I’m glad to see states actually striving for their own states’ rights instead of every little thing being mandated by our federal government. Let the environmentally conscious states have access to the tiny cars and fuel-efficient diesels that Europe gets, and let states like Kentucky ban teaching evolution. What are Kentuckians gonna do with that knowledge anyway… evolve?

Frequently I see people here complain about government messing with the auto industry, and that consumer demand and simple capitalism should decide what kind of cars get made. Well, this is it. 13 states saying we want a certain type of car, and if the auto giants want to make money in those states, they’ll build them. If it’s not profitable for them to make these cars, then you’ll see 13 states worth of very fit people who have to ride bikes to work.

jayjc08: I think by saying consumers in all 50 states having access to highly fuel efficient cars, McCurdy was implying that they could certainly get access to one if they wanted and it would be perfectly road legal in their home state. If automakers are forced to design CA emmisions-compliant vehicles for sale in 13 states, there’s certainly nothing stopping them from being sold in the other 37, or someone who wants one just flying a few states over and driving one home. I’m assuming Hawaii is probably one of the 13, right? You’d have a hell of a time driving one back there.

I agree foamy I’m gonna do an earth quake dance. AHH maybe the Japanese will buy Cali since its bankrupt.

This is just stupid, I’m all for states having the latitude to make their own rules, but in this case, this whole thing started because the Federal Government and the EPA, under our beloved Bush, did not take any leadership in acting out a general and broad-based agreement on gas mileage and CO2 production.

Cali and the other states who made the decision should really try and sit down with Obama and his administration to try and compromise a country-wide agreement on both of these.

Having different rules for different states is going to be a nightmare for car manufacturers, the secondary market for used cars (like buying a car from Cali in Va) and the price of new models that will carry with them the increased cost of doing business in the US as a whole.

Stupid people, for once, just admit that having a generally agreed upon standard is much smarter, just like EURO4 and EURO6 which will at least cover all the members and make life sooo much easier.

Asscorp, you fall within your own description of “stupid people.”

You might disagree with me, and that’s fine, but the fact remains that from a policy standpoint, it is much smarter to have a single set of standards, setup by a proactive and intelligent government.

And next time you talk trash, at least take the time to, after you insult people freely as you did, at least explain your position for the greater good.

If people want “access” to these cars, they’ll buy them on their own. **** you california.

This is rediculous. Differing emissions standards across the 50 states are costing auto manufacturers (and thus taxpayers) millions of dollars every year. The Federal Govt needs to stop giving in to California’s every whim.

Can we vote them out of the union?

State should be allowed to experiment with policies that affect their own citizens. This is the essence of having a bicarmeral system. Of course, there is no denying that automobile emission affects Interstate commerce, which is within the jurisdiction of the Federal Congress, but if an administrative agency, acting with delegated authority, sees fit to allow such state experiment, then so be it.

On the few days a year that I miss living in California, it’s good to read articles like these to remind me of why I left. California is a bankrupt failure.

Interesting.. especially since California can’t afford to pay state employees as it is.. where are they gonna come up with the cash to pay people to enforce these new regulations? FAIL.

i read an article a while back about how having california lower greenhouse emissions level to unrealistically low levels will cause low volume automakers like lambo and ferrari whose cars emit lots of greenhouse emissions to pull out of the states entirely because a majority of their american sales are in california and it would be too costly to redesign the cars to meet the regulations. I’m all for states rights, but with the new cafe regulations, what are they really looking for? **** you california.

Stupid idiots the EPA is. The ONLY good thing is it doesn’t happen until 2016. Everything else is a complete disaster. California will be completely bankrupt long before 2016 though – probably before 2010.