Good to know I guess…

When is the EPA going to revise their numbers to reflect true world stats? Everyone knows that the Prius does not get 60 mpg, even under stop and go conditions. I mean, it’s nice that the EPA thinks that we don’t use the air conditioner and drive like there are bald eagle eggs underneath the accelerator at 30 mph everywhere. Hope the new revisions better reflect what’s actually happening. And when did the Ford Focus Wagon become a midsize wagon? And the Fit a station wagon?

how the hell are a Honda Civic and Bently GT in the same class!??!?! a Bently Azure and Toyota Yaris?!??? HAHAHAHAHAHH this is great

Invisible, sure the ratings are off, but in reference one can know which car has better gas mileage relative to EPA’s standard.

Right, cause when I hear the term “minicompact car” the first one that jumps to my mind is the DB9. WTF???

What about diesel cars/trucks? I’ve heard the VW TDI gets really great mileage.

Wow, the lowest fuel economy list reads like my dreamcar list!
AND my car made the finals! (S4 Avant)
Whoohoo!

haha the jeep grand cherokee is in there with all the supercars in lowest overall, except the grand cherokee doesnt offer any performance! hahah..

Uh, GSH,
It wouldnt surprise me if they were rating the SRT Cherokee, but…
The basic Grand Cherokee offers plenty of performance, just not on the pavement. It is an excellent off road vehicle weather you use it for that or not is another question. I can tell you from personal experience that it is a beast off road.

I guess you didn’t hear about the latest Jeep, it can do 60 MPH in ~6 seconds, which is pretty impressive for a stock 5,000+ lbs. SUV. Anyway, they’re going to offer the V-6 Diesel for the 2007 model year, so it’s a moot point to argue over this.

this is such a joke…the bentley azure (5940 lb curb weight, 213 inches overall length) and the toyota yaris (2293 lb curb weight, 169 inches overall length) are in the same class????? also.. of course when you think of a mini compact you think of a db9 and i just heard my friends dad saying..”we are thinking about a nice compact car for junior..you know something like a nice small safe bentley continental GT” whatever the EPA is smoking, i want some

What the hell is up with the lowest fuel economy list, how are the DB9, Azure and Continental GT mini, sub or compact cars? Doesnt make sense.

FUEL EFFICIENT CARS= BORING!

Gimme the keys to the Lambo, yay Global Warming!

rlatimerc! LOL too funny.
And yes 1c3d0g, the SRT Grand Cherokee is pretty hot. They claim the same sub 6 second 0-60 on dry or wet pavement and I have read road tests that confirm it.
Sweet ride. I am guessing that is what they are using for the comparison because I think the standard hemi Grand Cherokee has the variable displacement feature and has a better HWY rating than that.

Confused… how the hell does any car that only gets 32MPG on a long distance run make it into the top ten? Either these have different standards to the ones I’m used to, or they arrived with leaky fuel tanks…

Haha i like how their “worst per category” rankings put the Bentley Azure in ’sub-compact car’, the Bentley Continental GT as ‘compact car’, and Aston Martin DB9 as ‘mini-compact car’, kind of stretching it there..

Fatstrat @ 5:59pm…..
Noo, Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 went like 4.7 or 4.9 seconds to 60 m.p.h. in a Motor Trend magazine or Car & Driver magazine.

EPA is smoking crack. Everybody’s right. Most cars don’t belong in these classes.

Anyone for making a Lambo rebody kit for the Prius?

For you wingnuts who can’t figure how a Bentley and a Civic are in the same “class”: the EPA categorizes cars & trucks by the numbers of doors, the capability & style of securing & carrying cargo (open or enclosed) and the amount of interior space – not price, performance or perceived desirability.

Amen, bepsf, so listen up folks, this is how it works. The EPA needed a way to sort cars by fuel economy. Length was considered for a time, but rejected. In the end, they settled on interior space, believing that people would cross-shop vehicles with similarly-sized interiors (i.e., in modern terms, a Toyota Camry buyer looks at Accords, Altimas, and Fusions). In the EPA system, any car that seats 2 people only is in the two-seater category. A minicompact seats more than two, but has less than 85 cubic feet of space in cabin and trunk, a subcompact 85-99, a compact 100-110, a midsize 111-119, and large car being 120+. THAT is why the DB9 is a minicompact. Wagons have 3 categories: small (less than 130), midsize (130-159), and large (160+). Pickups are classed by weight; SUVs, special purpose vehicles, vans, and minivans all have their own categories. A manufacturer can more or less decide what they want their vehicle to be, by slightly adjusting certain qualifying features — thus, the PT Cruiser is an SUV under EPA rules. The EPA also now lists vehicles at fueleconomy.gov by “market class”, which is more closely matched to buyer patterns.

Now that we’ve covered what anyone could have looked up, a couple cars are missing from this list, b/c the 2007 data is incomplete. Assuming that they haven’t changed it significantly from 2006, the Saleen S7 TwinTurbo will guzzle gas at 8/14 mpg, whilst the Bugatti Veyron will post a fuel economy of 8/15 mpg.

Of course, CAFE requirements exempt any vehicle with a gross weight of more than 8500 pounds from submitting to EPA testing until 2011 (and trucks will remain exempt even then). In 2007, that list will include: Chevroelt Avalanche 2500, Chevrolet Express 3500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500HD models, Chevrolet Suburban 2500, Dodge Ram 2500/3500 models, Dodge Sprinter, Ford Econoline E-350s, Ford F-Series F-250/F-350 Super Duty models, GMC Savana 3500, GMC Sierra 2500/3500HD models, GMC Yukon XL 2500, Hummer H2. Hmmmm, might any of these ranks even worse on the EPA list? Who can say?

Finally, a note from personal experience. It is true that the EPA test does not accurately reflect real-world conditions, especially with hybrids, but this can cut both ways. My car is rated at 21/28 mpg, but my driving yields figures more like 27/34 mpg in good weather, and I keep up with traffic just fine.

bepsf, no ****, i never said i didnt see whatever little logic they had behind it, but you know EXACTLY what we’re saying when we say its humorous to see both cars in the same class. lighten up jesus christ

My winter car is a 2002 Saturn SL-1 sedan with a 5-speed (a whole 100 hp!) that gets 42 mpg on the highway and I don’t get the hybrid thing. I know I’m spewing more pollution than a hybrid vehicle is, but if I can get 42 mpg and a hybrid Camary gets 40? I don’t get it. I guess it takes me about 17 minutes to get up to 60 mph, that could be the difference.. never mind…

This is another sarcasm!

The U.S. Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency MAKES NO SENSE as all other idiotic organizations trying to do something that they MUST NOT! The cars they compared – never should be. Are we forgetting of millions large SUVs sold every year? And Lamborghini or Ferrari, that make few – compared with others – perfect supercars, gets the worst fuel economy. Have they ever asked to a single supercar owner if they care of that? Now ask all other owners and they WILL complain if their cars have bad fuel economy.

OK, I am a buyer looking for a car. So… Lamborghini consumes 9/14 and Ferrari – 10/17. Neh… I’ll get a Mazda MX-5 (manual) which has 25/30 fuel consumption.

Please, all the US IDIOTIC ORGANIZATIONS, when you do something that you shouldn’t, don’t spoil the good stuff. In this case it’s comparing moving appliance with Automobile.

If an Auto customer is looking for an efficient performer, then the MPG ratings the EPA and others publish are useful for picking a performer that uses its fuel efficiently.

Then again, if all you want is going fast-fast-fast , have money to burn as you guzzle the gas, and a place to drive forfast-fast-fast racing pleasure (preferably on a TRACK !) those MPG ratings are meaningless.