didn’t know the engines were that small. The EU has more to worry about then F1.

Maybe just a new class for now.

I’m all for eco-friendly racing but do this!

Make a new class of racing not pare back a current one. Then again, they might make it work out in the end anyway…

DON”T DO IT!!!!

I agree with Zuke, F1’s 2.4L engines are the same displacement as some current road cars 4 cylinders. If environmentalists want to target a racing organization, they should look at NASCAR. 5.9L V8’s, racing for longer then an average F1 race, times 50 cars. Thats probably over twice the emissions as Formula 1….. I do agree that F1 is an excellent catalyst for change in car design, and a role model for many new ideas.

2 litre staright six. Would sound wicked

Has the EU turned into Eco-Communists ???

The freedoms of the world are going to hell.

One day in the future a revolution will come…..

NASCAR runs on biofuel, didn’t?
Ethanol is from crop. Is a biofuel as EU is asking FOCA & FIA to use.
Not only nascar, CART and IRL use biofuel also.

My mistake, Nascar runs on unleaded fuel.

Get Real – it has – in the form of an Audi

Shouldn’t the EU be asking F1 to stop racing their cars in circles for hours, wasting gas, producing auto emissions, and depleting our slick tire supply?

I don’t see the problem as long as they’re just asking it and since it usually takes about 27 years for them to decide on anything, I’m not too worried they can actually ban F1 V8 racing. On the other hand, as Goatfeet states, the F1 industry has been a great contributor to every day car technology. Let’s face it; why should you want a V8 if you can get the same performance with half the cylinders and half the gas consumption?

Instead of requiring a certain technology, just place two standards and then let the engineers come up with solutions:
1. An engine must pass a specified emmissions test
2. A vehicle is limited to X liters of fuel for a Y distance race.

On the other hand, Honda builds most of the F1 engines and some of the technology from a 4 cyl F1 engine might just trickle down toward a civic Si.

Imagine there was a decision that made all F1 cars have to turn to alternate fuels to race… Imagine the technological innovations to come out of it to reach consumers.
F1 and current technology has come so far and peaked.

F1 is so popular right now (USA excluded) I really don’t think it would ammount to more than a quiche wrapper blowing across the track. The fact that they are offering no resistance to this idea bears this out. Great drivers and great teams make this series what it is. Only the most ardent of fans could even tell you what lump powers these cars now. It’s the spectacle.

Some people need to actually WATCH a F1 race. There are no slicks in F1 and they do not drive in circles, ovals or tri-ovals. The EU can’t ask NASCAR anything because NASCAR is a US based series while the FIA is based in France. Additionally the manufacturers all agreed on an engine freeze for at least 5 years beginning in 2007. The FIA is probably going to ask for some development cost money to force this request on the manufacturers.
The BMW M5/M6 V10 engine are direct evolvements of BMW engines from F1.

Get Real: Get real. Get a grip, get a life!

My only concern in biofuel and only because I love my beef. More biofuel for racing means less corn feed for cow. We will run out of chicken as well. Hungry cows will go mad!

I can’t believe the amount of power those F1 engines put out with such a small displacement. That makes Nascar look even more pathetic with race engines twice the size and making half the power. If F1 switches to 4cyl I guess it will make the cars even more lighter and perhaps the engines will have a 30,000rpm redline! The current 18,000rpm redline is just so slow! lol

That’s it autonut: I’m definitely having a Whopper for lunch before they’re all gone!

FIA is so half ass. Why not go all the way. Really make it F1, 1 cylinder engines powering remote control unicycles.
But really who cares if there 4 cylinders, long as they go as fast as they do now I dont care if their electric.
Cant wait to see this years 1st start and 1st race in the rain w/o TC. Carbon fiber every where!
Too many misnomers and bad info on this page to even start to staighten out.

USAC tried this once. They called the engines “Offenhausers”.They were out of vogue by the late 60’s, however. Seriously though, good idea down the road, but like someone stated above, start off with a different series first and eventually work it’s way in. On another note, doesn’t the E. U. have more pressing issues than Formula One? They must be taking the example of our government’s current obsession with baseball and steroids while the economy falls apart at the seams..

We still have seams left?

They should start different class leagues. 3 races per track. 1st week v8, 2nd week V6 and third week 4cyl.

I’m all for racing teams developing better 4 cylinders, but not so much at the cost of V8’s

F*ck the European Union. To me, F1 died as soon as they banned turbo’s back in the 80’s. Yeah, I don’t give a sh!t about whether some could handle it or not, great drivers WERE able to handle them perfectly fine. It’s too bad the “sport” (which is more like a ) has degenerated like this, a pussified version of a once powerful and influential race.

Since when did Honda build most of the F1 engines?

Ask Rubens how much he likes his Honda motor. If it was up to him the Honda factory cars would not even have a Honda motor.
Iceman repeat 08.

use methanol

Enfine suppliers in F1
Ferrari supplies three teams – Ferrari, Torro Rosso, Force India

Honda supplies two teams -Honda and Super Aguri

Toyota supplies two teams – Toyota , Williams

Renault supplies two teams – Renault, Red Bull

Mercedes supplies 1 team – McLaren

*Engine

Sorry, my mistake. I must have been thinking of the fact that Honda supplies most engines for Indy car racing. My point about the trickle down tech still stands, though.

In the EU, the politics of passenger car emissions seem a bit more settled than in the U.S. Especially the EU would know that emissions from racing is no where close to the deleterious effect of passenger car emissions (and, yes, yes, I know, other industry as well). Without serving on the FIA, I can all but guarantee that this proposal is squarely aimed at the trickle-down effect of the technology.

The manufacturers would probably (publicly, at least) support most of anything the FIA had to say because of its power and influence in racing, but I think the manufacturers are on board because they trust their technology and know that the racing won’t suffer.

Yes, the EU are eco-communists.
The British military vehicles entering Iraq (tanks, trucks etc) must all comply with EU emissions regulations. The average Challenger tank in Iraq has depleted uranium coming out of the front, but they’re really bothered about the CO2 coming out of the back…
Fools.

F1 using 4 bangers would be very interesting. Just keep that beautiful sound.

F1 should use diesels and skip the fuel stops.

The Stig: now THERE’S an idea I can get along with!

Let donkey’s pull the cars and run some laps.

Wait…Donkey exhale CO2, and they crap.

Have people pull the cars…wait, they pollute just like the donkey.

THERE IS NO SOLUTION. EVIL RACE PEOPLE FILL THE EARTH.

Well, Max Mosely, Ecclestone and the EU can all go screw themselves. F1 is about advanced technology and speed at all costs. It is the pinnicale of motorsports, not some eco friendly kart league.

NASCAR used to be about speed and cars, then it became about the drivers and rules. Now is boring.

oops, also forget that the “stock car” thing went out the window too.

Weld up some tubes, put some sticker headlights on it and call it “stock”

Autonutt- Just remember this, and you’ll be alright:

“Happy cows come from California”

This is retarded