Comments on: European Union lays foundation for vehicle communications http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:39:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402791 RaineMan Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:53:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402791 Great... more electronic nannies. Better keep the cars you have now gents... and buy spare parts... the new ones are going to be too sophisticated and full of government safety controls. I see nothing but problems in the future. Those of us who are in our 20s and 30s now will be telling our grandkids "I remember the days when I could actually drive the car... now you just get in and the darn machine does it all for you." Great… more electronic nannies. Better keep the cars you have now gents… and buy spare parts… the new ones are going to be too sophisticated and full of government safety controls. I see nothing but problems in the future. Those of us who are in our 20s and 30s now will be telling our grandkids “I remember the days when I could actually drive the car… now you just get in and the darn machine does it all for you.”

]]> By: mg198242 http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402774 mg198242 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:58:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402774 "beatusmongous" is right, people are going crazy and nuts and we have to take care of our families! Where the he** is my old AK-47... “beatusmongous” is right, people are going crazy and nuts and we have to take care of our families! Where the he** is my old AK-47…

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402750 mayer_ray_nagin Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:47:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402750 Gents, Snopes.com labels that cruise control/auto-pilot story as the stuff of urban legends, with different variations appearing at different times. http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp Gents, Snopes.com labels that cruise control/auto-pilot story as the stuff of urban legends, with different variations appearing at different times.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/cruise.asp

]]> By: DriveCritic http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402729 DriveCritic Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:51:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402729 I can see its benefits but the introduction of something like this will spell the end of driving as we know it. Sad but in some ways, inevitable that it will come down to think within the next 15 years, if not, sooner. ---- This post has been listed on http://www.DriveCritic.com/ I can see its benefits but the introduction of something like this will spell the end of driving as we know it. Sad but in some ways, inevitable that it will come down to think within the next 15 years, if not, sooner.
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This post has been listed on http://www.DriveCritic.com/

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402709 beatusmongous Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:02:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402709 Yeah, I heard about that. The fact that people just screamed and ran, and no one did anything, is even worse to me. I would have grabbed my backpack and smacked the assailant in the face with it. People are going nuts, and we have to take care of ourselves and our families. Yeah, I heard about that. The fact that people just screamed and ran, and no one did anything, is even worse to me. I would have grabbed my backpack and smacked the assailant in the face with it. People are going nuts, and we have to take care of ourselves and our families.

]]> By: DeansterTJ http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402708 DeansterTJ Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:23:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402708 ^ outrageous. Did you hear about the guy in MAintoba, Canada who severed the head of another passenger on a Greyhound bus 2 weeks ago? A week later it happened again in Santorini, Greece (although not on a bus that time). Crazy ^ outrageous.

Did you hear about the guy in MAintoba, Canada who severed the head of another passenger on a Greyhound bus 2 weeks ago? A week later it happened again in Santorini, Greece (although not on a bus that time). Crazy

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402703 beatusmongous Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:24:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402703 Deanster, I wish I could use a subway, but they don't exist where I live, and they never will. Our bus system is also useless, as it takes an hour to travel what I drive in 15 minutes, and the buses are riddled with the city's rejects and homeless people. I know if I rode a bus in my town, someone would stab me in the face and steal my laptop. However, one thing that our city is trying to do is create a free WiFi connection on the buses, but I highly doubt that will change driving habits here since our buses are so slow. This new idea of driverless cars is coming, as much as I don't want it to. But I fear we drivers are the minority, and people would much rather ride in the comfort of their own vehicle while they eat their fried chicken. Did anyone ever hear the lawsuit about the guy that sued the motorhome manufacturer that made a motorhome he bought? The guy bought a motorhome, drove it off the lot, took it up on the freeway, activated the cruise control, and the got up out of his seat, went to the back and made a cup of coffee. The motorhome obviously went off the freeway and crashed, and the guy was injured. The guy won the lawsuit on the grounds that he was never warned that the cruise control was not an "autopilot." Deanster, I wish I could use a subway, but they don’t exist where I live, and they never will. Our bus system is also useless, as it takes an hour to travel what I drive in 15 minutes, and the buses are riddled with the city’s rejects and homeless people. I know if I rode a bus in my town, someone would stab me in the face and steal my laptop. However, one thing that our city is trying to do is create a free WiFi connection on the buses, but I highly doubt that will change driving habits here since our buses are so slow. This new idea of driverless cars is coming, as much as I don’t want it to. But I fear we drivers are the minority, and people would much rather ride in the comfort of their own vehicle while they eat their fried chicken.

Did anyone ever hear the lawsuit about the guy that sued the motorhome manufacturer that made a motorhome he bought? The guy bought a motorhome, drove it off the lot, took it up on the freeway, activated the cruise control, and the got up out of his seat, went to the back and made a cup of coffee. The motorhome obviously went off the freeway and crashed, and the guy was injured. The guy won the lawsuit on the grounds that he was never warned that the cruise control was not an “autopilot.”

]]> By: Scarface03 http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402691 Scarface03 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:23:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402691 I'm with Got Handling? 100% on this. The more cars talk to one another on the road, the safer we all are. What we're talking about here are relatively minor hardware and software upgrades so that cars can detect (or receive signals about) hazards and react. It'll take some time to perfect the system, but I wager that well over 90% of all accidents could be avoided if someone had just hit their brake pedal a few seconds (or fractions thereor) sooner. I’m with Got Handling? 100% on this. The more cars talk to one another on the road, the safer we all are. What we’re talking about here are relatively minor hardware and software upgrades so that cars can detect (or receive signals about) hazards and react. It’ll take some time to perfect the system, but I wager that well over 90% of all accidents could be avoided if someone had just hit their brake pedal a few seconds (or fractions thereor) sooner.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402688 1c3d0g Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:09:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402688 Big Brother is watching you... :-| Big Brother is watching you… :-|

]]> By: maxcar http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402687 maxcar Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:42:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402687 have you seen the personal rapid transit pods used at heathrow airport's new terminal 5: http://www.ultraprt.com/ have you seen the personal rapid transit pods used at heathrow airport’s new terminal 5:

http://www.ultraprt.com/

]]> By: DeansterTJ http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402686 DeansterTJ Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:41:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402686 A system like this already exists. It's called taking the fucking bus or subway. You can txt or read a book without watching the road. A system like this already exists. It’s called taking the ****ing bus or subway. You can txt or read a book without watching the road.

]]> By: Got Handling? http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402678 Got Handling? Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:18:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402678 With average speed monitoring systems on European motorways that track your average speed over 1km using small hard-to-notice number plate recognition cameras, the Big Brother worries are moot since its already here. At least this type of system could monitor really hazardous behaviour like tailgating and bad lane discipline. Personally I'm happy to see a change in focus to active safety systems rather than ever-heavier passive systems that turn family vehicles into 2-ton tanks with little thought to the safety of occupants of other vehicles that they may collide with. These systems would only be economically viable on major roads and could reduce accidents and journey times, meanwhile keen drivers could still get their kicks on backroads. Done right this could result in lighter cars that use less fuel, negotiate dull, motorway driving automatically and let the driver enjoy their new nimble characteristics on entertaining roads. With average speed monitoring systems on European motorways that track your average speed over 1km using small hard-to-notice number plate recognition cameras, the Big Brother worries are moot since its already here. At least this type of system could monitor really hazardous behaviour like tailgating and bad lane discipline.

Personally I’m happy to see a change in focus to active safety systems rather than ever-heavier passive systems that turn family vehicles into 2-ton tanks with little thought to the safety of occupants of other vehicles that they may collide with. These systems would only be economically viable on major roads and could reduce accidents and journey times, meanwhile keen drivers could still get their kicks on backroads.

Done right this could result in lighter cars that use less fuel, negotiate dull, motorway driving automatically and let the driver enjoy their new nimble characteristics on entertaining roads.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402674 johnnycanuck Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:46:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402674 Anyone remember that idiotic 1st to 4th skip shift feature on the last generation manual transmission V8 Camaros and Trans Ams? I know this isn't even remotely the same thing, but I defy you to find one of those cars where the owner didn't have that little brainstorm defeated in a big ****ing hurry. Clones and pussies will eat this stuff up. To the rest of us it's just more big brother. Anyone remember that idiotic 1st to 4th skip shift feature on the last generation manual transmission V8 Camaros and Trans Ams? I know this isn’t even remotely the same thing, but I defy you to find one of those cars where the owner didn’t have that little brainstorm defeated in a big ****ing hurry. Clones and pussies will eat this stuff up. To the rest of us it’s just more big brother.

]]> By: sprockkets http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402647 sprockkets Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:12:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402647 If it just tells other cars I got into an accident, fine. I doubt a creamed car would be able to still work. But what's next, a car that transmits its speed for easy cop pullovers? Automatically slams on the brakes for you? I'm sure that won't cause accidents on non equipped vehicles. I'm more worried about how lawmakers want a black box put into the car. How about this? in 2011, R-134a, the refrigerant for your car a/c, will be banned in the EU. It's the R-12 bullshit all over again. Do they have a replacement yet? No. Reference? http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/l_161/l_16120060614en00120018.pdf Want to see how R-134a behaves? Turn a compress air can upside down and that is R-134a. If it just tells other cars I got into an accident, fine. I doubt a creamed car would be able to still work. But what’s next, a car that transmits its speed for easy cop pullovers? Automatically slams on the brakes for you? I’m sure that won’t cause accidents on non equipped vehicles.

I’m more worried about how lawmakers want a black box put into the car.

How about this? in 2011, R-134a, the refrigerant for your car a/c, will be banned in the EU. It’s the R-12 bull**** all over again. Do they have a replacement yet? No.

Reference? http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/l_161/l_16120060614en00120018.pdf

Want to see how R-134a behaves? Turn a compress air can upside down and that is R-134a.

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402642 beatusmongous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:02:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402642 Just another step toward driverless cars. Pretty soon, Blackberry and iPhone addicts won't have to worry about the annoyance of driving. Just another step toward driverless cars. Pretty soon, Blackberry and iPhone addicts won’t have to worry about the annoyance of driving.

]]> By: acura_el2000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/european-union-lays-foundation-for-vehicle-communications.html/comment-page-1#comment-402629 acura_el2000 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:25:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8359#comment-402629 This could get annoying. This could get annoying.

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