Comments on: Ferrari exec says no Dino in the works http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: carpedia http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-284036 carpedia Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:54:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-284036 I believe that if ferrari made a V6, Lotus-like car, it would be definite crap. A true ferrari fan should appreciate the company's philosophy, the 60's Dino was one of the greatest mistakes in Ferrari's history, as Enzo himself had acknowledged. The true Ferrari must be a v8 or a v12, not anything else. ITs like when POrsche went stupid and built the Cayenne. A lot of jerks may have said it would take Porsche's rep down, and it did not make the Carrera GT be undervalued, however, the Cayenne itself is crap (even the Turbo S version, it ain't a Porsche). Yes, it would sell big time, but the top of the line Ferrari's buyers would consider this a betrayal. IT depends on what you want for Ferrari, to be cheap and nasty or to hold its heritage. I believe that if ferrari made a V6, Lotus-like car, it would be definite crap. A true ferrari fan should appreciate the company’s philosophy, the 60′s Dino was one of the greatest mistakes in Ferrari’s history, as Enzo himself had acknowledged. The true Ferrari must be a v8 or a v12, not anything else. ITs like when POrsche went stupid and built the Cayenne. A lot of jerks may have said it would take Porsche’s rep down, and it did not make the Carrera GT be undervalued, however, the Cayenne itself is crap (even the Turbo S version, it ain’t a Porsche). Yes, it would sell big time, but the top of the line Ferrari’s buyers would consider this a betrayal. IT depends on what you want for Ferrari, to be cheap and nasty or to hold its heritage.

]]> By: theshadow http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283704 theshadow Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:14:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283704 Piablo: Lancia? Ech! Unless they do something as good as the Delta Integrale HF someday! Maserati, nah: I'd go for a Cayman S instead any day! My main point was that Ferrari could benefit by building a hardcore sports car for a reasonable price. Besides F1, and a handful of older 550s and 360s on the FIA GT circuit, the only thing that's currently legendary about Ferrari is the price (Ferrari Challenge doesn't count - just a bunch of rich ppl who can't drive, totally unlike the Porsche series). Even though Ferrari's road cars are universally claimed to be good, the only place you're ever likely to see one driven in anger is on Rodeo Drive. Oh well though, it's still fun reeling Ferraris in on track days. Piablo: Lancia? Ech! Unless they do something as good as the Delta Integrale HF someday! Maserati, nah: I’d go for a Cayman S instead any day!

My main point was that Ferrari could benefit by building a hardcore sports car for a reasonable price. Besides F1, and a handful of older 550s and 360s on the FIA GT circuit, the only thing that’s currently legendary about Ferrari is the price (Ferrari Challenge doesn’t count – just a bunch of rich ppl who can’t drive, totally unlike the Porsche series).

Even though Ferrari’s road cars are universally claimed to be good, the only place you’re ever likely to see one driven in anger is on Rodeo Drive.

Oh well though, it’s still fun reeling Ferraris in on track days.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283569 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:44:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283569 And the 959 is in my top 5 all time favorite cars. And the 959 is in my top 5 all time favorite cars.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283568 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:41:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283568 I can tell! It's just that comparing Ferrari to Porsche or any other brand is apples and oranges. All of Ferrari's customers can afford any Porsche out there, even the Carrera GT. Not all Porsche customers can afford every Ferrari. One brand is manufactured by machines, one is by hand. One brand markets $60k SUVs for the masses, the other doesn't care about the masses. One brand's current top vehicle, the 911 turbo (Carrera GT discontinued) competes with the cheapest car of the other. Ferrari is able to sell their products because of the way they sell them. They have great performance, but clearly not the best. I would argue they have good quality considering all facts, but clearly not the best. They are however some of the BEST looking vehicles out there. They are iconic. And they way they sell them is in very low numbers. They hand build them, and there are only a few of them. By nature of economics, they have to cost more. It's the same for the Ford GT, and Ford still lost a bundle on that car. Ferrari can't build a $100k car and still build in small numbers. Nature of economics, low supply means high cost. So that means mass production, and suddenly the entire niche Ferrari is built on comes crumbling down. The only way to produce one is to rebadge a Maserati. Ferrari will not invest in a billion dollar automated manufacturing facility just for a Dino. Can you imagine what would happen if Ferrari was caught rebadging?? It would be the end of a legend. I love Porsche too. But it's a Ferrari that holds my heart. I can tell! It’s just that comparing Ferrari to Porsche or any other brand is apples and oranges. All of Ferrari’s customers can afford any Porsche out there, even the Carrera GT. Not all Porsche customers can afford every Ferrari. One brand is manufactured by machines, one is by hand. One brand markets $60k SUVs for the masses, the other doesn’t care about the masses. One brand’s current top vehicle, the 911 turbo (Carrera GT discontinued) competes with the cheapest car of the other.

Ferrari is able to sell their products because of the way they sell them. They have great performance, but clearly not the best. I would argue they have good quality considering all facts, but clearly not the best. They are however some of the BEST looking vehicles out there. They are iconic. And they way they sell them is in very low numbers. They hand build them, and there are only a few of them. By nature of economics, they have to cost more. It’s the same for the Ford GT, and Ford still lost a bundle on that car. Ferrari can’t build a $100k car and still build in small numbers. Nature of economics, low supply means high cost. So that means mass production, and suddenly the entire niche Ferrari is built on comes crumbling down. The only way to produce one is to rebadge a Maserati. Ferrari will not invest in a billion dollar automated manufacturing facility just for a Dino. Can you imagine what would happen if Ferrari was caught rebadging?? It would be the end of a legend.

I love Porsche too. But it’s a Ferrari that holds my heart.

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283563 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:05:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283563 im a porsche-phile incase you cant tell =^P im a porsche-phile incase you cant tell =^P

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283562 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:04:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283562 porsche racing history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche#Motor-racing intersting fact. The 959 is the only car to win the Paris-Dakar Ralley & Le Mans. porsche racing history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche#Motor-racing
intersting fact. The 959 is the only car to win the Paris-Dakar Ralley & Le Mans.

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283561 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:57:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283561 also...if they make a 100,000 car they would HAVE to make it reliable and i dont think they can that because they handbuild them. im pretty sure porsche engines are handbuilt also, not 100% though also…if they make a 100,000 car they would HAVE to make it reliable and i dont think they can that because they handbuild them. im pretty sure porsche engines are handbuilt also, not 100% though

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283560 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:54:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283560 dont get my wrong. Ferrari is a legendary company no doubt. what im saying is there road cars are waaaay overpriced BECAUSE of there history. I think if you would track Ferrari sales they prob rise and fall with their performance in F1. There are faster, better handling, nicer riding, better for daily use cars out there for ALOT less money. no one in there right mind would be disappointed with a 911 Turbo. thats why i say if they build a Dino, and price it at $100,000 it doesnt even have to keep up with a Caymen S, it will sell because its a Ferrari. thats just good brand image. I truly think image conscious ppl will buy a Ferrari, DRIVERS will look elsewhere. Point in case…how many Enzo’s have fallen now? How many of them wrecked on a race track? (F1 is the only thing that gets up early on sunday morning, i was a big MS fan.) dont get my wrong. Ferrari is a legendary company no doubt. what im saying is there road cars are waaaay overpriced BECAUSE of there history. I think if you would track Ferrari sales they prob rise and fall with their performance in F1. There are faster, better handling, nicer riding, better for daily use cars out there for ALOT less money. no one in there right mind would be disappointed with a 911 Turbo. thats why i say if they build a Dino, and price it at $100,000 it doesnt even have to keep up with a Caymen S, it will sell because its a Ferrari. thats just good brand image. I truly think image conscious ppl will buy a Ferrari, DRIVERS will look elsewhere. Point in case…how many Enzo’s have fallen now? How many of them wrecked on a race track?

(F1 is the only thing that gets up early on sunday morning, i was a big MS fan.)

]]> By: eam3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283559 eam3 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:50:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283559 I just wanted to point out that your statement was a little too vague because it made it sound as if Porsche won a lot of races and Ferrari didn't. However, having said that, when it comes to street cars I agree 100%, I love Ferraris, always have and always will but given the choice of which one to drive cross-country, between an F430 or a 997TT, I know that the 997TT will get me there. Maybe not as exciting as the Ferrari, but it is damn reliable, dependable and, in typical Porsche fashion, overengineered to ridiculously high tolerances. I just wanted to point out that your statement was a little too vague because it made it sound as if Porsche won a lot of races and Ferrari didn’t.

However, having said that, when it comes to street cars I agree 100%, I love Ferraris, always have and always will but given the choice of which one to drive cross-country, between an F430 or a 997TT, I know that the 997TT will get me there. Maybe not as exciting as the Ferrari, but it is damn reliable, dependable and, in typical Porsche fashion, overengineered to ridiculously high tolerances.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283553 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:37:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283553 So i read your article. There is a good point there. But my response is, don't by a hand made car if you want total quality. So i read your article. There is a good point there. But my response is, don’t by a hand made car if you want total quality.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283551 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:27:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283551 YourNameHere, ever hear of Michael Schumacher? I guess not considering your position on Ferrari never winning races. Here's a link: http://www.mschumacher.com/ Read that and tell me Ferrari never wins races. You can't pick one year or even 5 years and blanket a company with failure. You are alone in your assessment, Ferrari is legendary, always will be. TheShadow, Fiat would love your money, that's why they offer buyers at your level the Maserati brand. Well, maybe Lancia in this case. YourNameHere, ever hear of Michael Schumacher? I guess not considering your position on Ferrari never winning races. Here’s a link: http://www.mschumacher.com/

Read that and tell me Ferrari never wins races. You can’t pick one year or even 5 years and blanket a company with failure. You are alone in your assessment, Ferrari is legendary, always will be.

TheShadow, Fiat would love your money, that’s why they offer buyers at your level the Maserati brand. Well, maybe Lancia in this case.

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283547 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:13:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283547 porsche has a F1 title. im talking about sports car racing. i cant drive schumachers f2006 down the street (though i dream of it regualarly) but you can drive an F430 and a 911 GT2. porsche has a F1 title.

im talking about sports car racing. i cant drive schumachers f2006 down the street (though i dream of it regualarly) but you can drive an F430 and a 911 GT2.

]]> By: eam3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283545 eam3 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:58:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283545 Let's talk about Porsche in F1 then. Different strokes for different folks. Other than Schumacher's engine failure (it was his what? First in over 4 years?), Ferraris have been kicking butt in F1 for a while now. Let’s talk about Porsche in F1 then. Different strokes for different folks. Other than Schumacher’s engine failure (it was his what? First in over 4 years?), Ferraris have been kicking butt in F1 for a while now.

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283525 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:28:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283525 those days are long gone. there cars never finish the race due to mechanical failure. if you want to talk about road racing history lets talk porsche. those days are long gone. there cars never finish the race due to mechanical failure. if you want to talk about road racing history lets talk porsche.

]]> By: theshadow http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283514 theshadow Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:25:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283514 I should also point out that Ferarri built their name in endurance and club-level racing, not only F1. There was LeMans, Sebring, Daytona, the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio etc. And a lot of lucky privateers kicked some serious butt with Ferraris back in the 50s. I should also point out that Ferarri built their name in endurance and club-level racing, not only F1. There was LeMans, Sebring, Daytona, the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio etc. And a lot of lucky privateers kicked some serious butt with Ferraris back in the 50s.

]]> By: theshadow http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283509 theshadow Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:04:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283509 Shame, I still think Ferrari could use a hardcore trackday-type car for around $70k. I can understand that they need to maintain their brand image and market positioning but the big risk for them is that they totally rely on F1 and their heritage for their credibility. If they begin to suck in F1, or F1 begins to suck, all that's left to represent them is their marketing budget and a small bunch of rich poseurs who mostly can't drive for shit. Their will always be the magazines which rave about how good Ferraris are to drive but on the streets and track days around the country enthusiasts will gradually stop taking them seriously since on the track a good driver in an 'inferior' car can whup an averagely-driven Ferrari without much difficulty these days, and on the streets all it takes is some kid in a jacked up supra, EVO or STI. A cheap, focused, no-frills Ferrari would be a relatively easy way to change that perception, since it would be much more likely to fall into the hands of a good driver who would be willing to push it to its true potential. Cue enduring enthusiast respect & street cred. And to deantj, who thinks everyone here is a cheap ass keyboard jockey welfare bum, I happen to drive a $45k '06 Golf R32, after which I will likely be shopping right in the thick of the mid-high sub-$100k market ($60-80k). If Ferrari doesn't want my chump change, somebody else probably will. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2797350 Shame, I still think Ferrari could use a hardcore trackday-type car for around $70k.

I can understand that they need to maintain their brand image and market positioning but the big risk for them is that they totally rely on F1 and their heritage for their credibility. If they begin to suck in F1, or F1 begins to suck, all that’s left to represent them is their marketing budget and a small bunch of rich poseurs who mostly can’t drive for shit. Their will always be the magazines which rave about how good Ferraris are to drive but on the streets and track days around the country enthusiasts will gradually stop taking them seriously since on the track a good driver in an ‘inferior’ car can whup an averagely-driven Ferrari without much difficulty these days, and on the streets all it takes is some kid in a jacked up supra, EVO or STI.

A cheap, focused, no-frills Ferrari would be a relatively easy way to change that perception, since it would be much more likely to fall into the hands of a good driver who would be willing to push it to its true potential. Cue enduring enthusiast respect & street cred.

And to deantj, who thinks everyone here is a cheap ass keyboard jockey welfare bum, I happen to drive a $45k ’06 Golf R32, after which I will likely be shopping right in the thick of the mid-high sub-$100k market ($60-80k). If Ferrari doesn’t want my chump change, somebody else probably will.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2797350

]]> By: YourNameHere http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283496 YourNameHere Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283496 Ferrari sells cars because of the badge. they arnt reliable. they arnt the fastest. they arnt the prettiest. BUT they have a prancing horse on the front. the 911 Turbo is ~110,000. the F430 is ~180,000. if they where to make a Caymen S fighter it would cost +$100,000. it will be slower, uglier and spend more time at the dealer. but they will sell everyone of them because its a Ferrari. Ferrari sells cars because of the badge. they arnt reliable. they arnt the fastest. they arnt the prettiest. BUT they have a prancing horse on the front. the 911 Turbo is ~110,000. the F430 is ~180,000. if they where to make a Caymen S fighter it would cost +$100,000. it will be slower, uglier and spend more time at the dealer. but they will sell everyone of them because its a Ferrari.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283488 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:27:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283488 Renton, don't be so bummed. As Jerry Seinfeld once said, you can't always give the kids what they want. They need to be disciplined. This just preserves all of the reasons why we want one. Renton, don’t be so bummed. As Jerry Seinfeld once said, you can’t always give the kids what they want. They need to be disciplined. This just preserves all of the reasons why we want one.

]]> By: peter g http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283485 peter g Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:48:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283485 By the way:Asher is totally right, we're talking spin, and rumours will probably continue. Up next: The Maserati New Merak??? By the way:Asher is totally right, we’re talking spin, and rumours will probably continue. Up next: The Maserati New Merak???

]]> By: peter g http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283484 peter g Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:42:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283484 Good, there was no reason whatsoever for Ferrari going retro. If you want a Dino, you buy a Dino. The original one. Good, there was no reason whatsoever for Ferrari going retro. If you want a Dino, you buy a Dino. The original one.

]]> By: Shawn1982 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283474 Shawn1982 Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:45:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283474 deantj: You are a numb nuts and you don't know what anyone on here can or can not afford so stuff it. But back to the topic: It's too bad. I'm not a fan of italian cars but it was a looker. deantj: You are a numb nuts and you don’t know what anyone on here can or can not afford so stuff it.

But back to the topic: It’s too bad. I’m not a fan of italian cars but it was a looker.

]]> By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283449 Renton Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:54:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283449 whatever.......... whatever……….

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283439 Piablo Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:04:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283439 AHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thank God. AHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Thank God.

]]> By: Fasterbater http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283434 Fasterbater Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:14:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283434 autonutt... Well said. We need a new RWD Alfa Spider to compete with the Elise, S2000, Mazdaspeed Mx-5 ( 2.3l DISI turbo....It'll happen, trust me) and other pure sports cars. Alfa has a big reputation to clean up in north america and a lightweight "affordable" no frills successor to the original spider would be a huge success. The market is there, but the platform isn't... until FIAT deems it profitable that is. autonutt… Well said. We need a new RWD Alfa Spider to compete with the Elise, S2000, Mazdaspeed Mx-5 ( 2.3l DISI turbo….It’ll happen, trust me) and other pure sports cars. Alfa has a big reputation to clean up in north america and a lightweight “affordable” no frills successor to the original spider would be a huge success. The market is there, but the platform isn’t… until FIAT deems it profitable that is.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283433 Stuart Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283433 ignore* revealing* ignore*
revealing*

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283432 Stuart Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:56:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283432 Its bull shit. They will make it but ignor it till a week before the revealinng. Typical car manufacturer Its bull shit. They will make it but ignor it till a week before the revealinng. Typical car manufacturer

]]> By: autonutt http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283426 autonutt Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:09:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283426 In the Fiat organization, Maserati and Alfa are both moving upmarket, adding models in the very same part of the market in which a Dino would compete.. so why should Ferrari jeopardize their reputation and cachet by moving downmarket? Jaguar learned hard lessons about moving downmarket, and I fear Aston Martin will soon meet a similar fate -- perhaps Ferrari is waiting to see how AM does? In the Fiat organization, Maserati and Alfa are both moving upmarket, adding models in the very same part of the market in which a Dino would compete.. so why should Ferrari jeopardize their reputation and cachet by moving downmarket? Jaguar learned hard lessons about moving downmarket, and I fear Aston Martin will soon meet a similar fate — perhaps Ferrari is waiting to see how AM does?

]]> By: jipsiville http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283419 jipsiville Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:45:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283419 Bummer, I like the Dino, my father had one for a few years way back when. Not super fast but still a great car that served it's purpose for Ferrari in the early 70's when they needed cash. adam713: Never would Ferrai make a car that "would fit right in with the Cayman and Z4 Coupe", that's like saying Rolls-Royce is going to make something to compete with Golf/Rabbit. With that being said, I would still like to see Ferrari expand their line up somewhat, a "low-end" car priced in the low $100,000 range with the Dino nameplate would do quite well I would think. From what I understand Fiat is trying to seperate Ferrari from Maserati, Maser will now be getting Fiat sourced engines to be massaged by Maserati and Alfa Romeo as needed. Bummer, I like the Dino, my father had one for a few years way back when. Not super fast but still a great car that served it’s purpose for Ferrari in the early 70′s when they needed cash.

adam713: Never would Ferrai make a car that “would fit right in with the Cayman and Z4 Coupe”, that’s like saying Rolls-Royce is going to make something to compete with Golf/Rabbit.

With that being said, I would still like to see Ferrari expand their line up somewhat, a “low-end” car priced in the low $100,000 range with the Dino nameplate would do quite well I would think. From what I understand Fiat is trying to seperate Ferrari from Maserati, Maser will now be getting Fiat sourced engines to be massaged by Maserati and Alfa Romeo as needed.

]]> By: Asher http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283408 Asher Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:20:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283408 Great, can we finally now put this lame duck issue to rest?? In reality, the Factory probably never even considered this model for all the reasons we've debated on this story over the past year. It was likely all just a media-perpetuated well-propelled rumor mill to sell car magazines and in this case, generate traffic as the Dino rumor stories got the enthusiast juices flowing and were some of the most commented posts on this site and others... ...I'll still bet anyone that you'll continue to hear "rumors" about the Dino etc even after this because once again, it works! Okay enough cynicism for now...lol :) Great, can we finally now put this lame duck issue to rest?? In reality, the Factory probably never even considered this model for all the reasons we’ve debated on this story over the past year. It was likely all just a media-perpetuated well-propelled rumor mill to sell car magazines and in this case, generate traffic as the Dino rumor stories got the enthusiast juices flowing and were some of the most commented posts on this site and others…

…I’ll still bet anyone that you’ll continue to hear “rumors” about the Dino etc even after this because once again, it works! Okay enough cynicism for now…lol :)

]]> By: Jimbo - G Mill$ http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283403 Jimbo - G Mill$ Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:06:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283403 yeah BAMF and s-60 driver. i'm right there with you.... until i floor my enzo =0 jp. jimbo needs a new car. yeah BAMF and s-60 driver. i’m right there with you…. until i floor my enzo =0

jp.

jimbo needs a new car.

]]> By: adam713 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283402 adam713 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:03:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283402 That's too bad. It would fit right in with the Cayman and the Z4 Coupe....though it would take the cake. That’s too bad. It would fit right in with the Cayman and the Z4 Coupe….though it would take the cake.

]]> By: GL1 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283396 GL1 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:41:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283396 Bummer.............. Bummer…………..

]]> By: BAMF http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283395 BAMF Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:34:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283395 S-60-driver -- I hear you buddy. We're right there with ya. S-60-driver — I hear you buddy. We’re right there with ya.

]]> By: S-60-driver http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283391 S-60-driver Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:18:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283391 awww crap man!! Now i gotta go back working 80 hours a week, saving more money to buy a typical 250,000 dollars Ferrari when i retire! It won't be 250K in 30 years, itll be like 500K. ha awww crap man!!
Now i gotta go back working 80 hours a week, saving more money to buy a typical 250,000 dollars Ferrari when i retire!
It won’t be 250K in 30 years, itll be like 500K. ha

]]> By: mbftw http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283388 mbftw Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:12:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283388 We don't need any muddled blood in the family! We don’t need any muddled blood in the family!

]]> By: Jason http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283386 Jason Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:01:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283386 Good news Good news

]]> By: thegoldenmackid http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283385 thegoldenmackid Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:00:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283385 Ferrari has a low end car...its calld the Maserati Coupe....and the variants... we dont need another baby ferrari.... well i would like more ferrari's i dont think we need cheap ones Ferrari has a low end car…its calld the Maserati Coupe….and the variants…

we dont need another baby ferrari….

well i would like more ferrari’s i dont think we need cheap ones

]]> By: meanpants555 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283384 meanpants555 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:57:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283384 Recent issue of the British magazine CAR (or is it evo?)says otherwise. I am sure Hans Lehmann will let us know. Recent issue of the British magazine CAR (or is it evo?)says otherwise. I am sure Hans Lehmann will let us know.

]]> By: F451 http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works.html#comment-283382 F451 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:47:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/11/30/ferrari-exec-says-no-dino-in-the-works/#comment-283382 Too bad. Too bad.

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