Comments on: Will the first Chinese cars in the U.S. be American? http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:43:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: nowei http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-272223 nowei Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:51:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-272223 one of the interesting things i read recently had to do with reverse engineering in the early days of the Japanese auto industry. The first car Nissan ever built was an Austin, and the legendary Datsun 510 apparently had the exact same suspension as a BMW 1600. /no one of the interesting things i read recently had to do with reverse engineering in the early days of the Japanese auto industry. The first car Nissan ever built was an Austin, and the legendary Datsun 510 apparently had the exact same suspension as a BMW 1600.

/no

]]> By: mblommel http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-271110 mblommel Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:00:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-271110 LOL Random! Hey, wasn't Wal-Mart supposed to sell Chinese cars in their supercenters? They might as well, all the crap in their is from China. LOL Random!

Hey, wasn’t Wal-Mart supposed to sell Chinese cars in their supercenters? They might as well, all the crap in their is from China.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270887 Veda Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:38:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270887 "You treat the locals with humility and pay the bribes to the politicos and hope for the best." You forgot about the local mafia that needs to be fed as well. But once you get the hang of it and have the backing of somebody in the military or police all is well. “You treat the locals with humility and pay the bribes to the politicos and hope for the best.”

You forgot about the local mafia that needs to be fed as well. But once you get the hang of it and have the backing of somebody in the military or police all is well.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270886 Veda Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:34:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270886 Endurancevm, that Spark clone is called the QQ which I went to its countrywide launching here 2 weeks ago. Yea they'll copy everything including the CRV that got Honda fuming. Endurancevm, that Spark clone is called the QQ which I went to its countrywide launching here 2 weeks ago. Yea they’ll copy everything including the CRV that got Honda fuming.

]]> By: InvisibleEcho http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270856 InvisibleEcho Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:05:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270856 What I don't understand is, if cars newly developed in countries that are just getting into the auto business are so crappy and unexciting, who keeps buying them to give enough revenue back to the company to develop the next line? (I believe asian car manufacturers were set as the example here) Unless their long term plans include just SUCKING for like, half a decade or so. And I really can't get excited about a Dodge Hornet. Ugh. What I don’t understand is, if cars newly developed in countries that are just getting into the auto business are so crappy and unexciting, who keeps buying them to give enough revenue back to the company to develop the next line? (I believe asian car manufacturers were set as the example here) Unless their long term plans include just SUCKING for like, half a decade or so.

And I really can’t get excited about a Dodge Hornet. Ugh.

]]> By: Hal http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270790 Hal Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:22:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270790 pretty sure mercedes have taken a lexus or two apart as well. its only a matter of time until chinese built cars are a familiar sight along with the japanese and korean models pretty sure mercedes have taken a lexus or two apart as well. its only a matter of time until chinese built cars are a familiar sight along with the japanese and korean models

]]> By: Fatstrat http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270763 Fatstrat Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270763 There has been a lot of reverse engineering in the Asian factories over the decades. Lexus didnt start with a clean sheet of paper when they started going after Mercedes. The started with a fleet of Mercedes and a few wrenches. There has been a lot of reverse engineering in the Asian factories over the decades. Lexus didnt start with a clean sheet of paper when they started going after Mercedes. The started with a fleet of Mercedes and a few wrenches.

]]> By: nowei http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270734 nowei Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:14:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270734 there was a time when people made fun of the build quality of japanese cars as compared with american cars. during the last couple years there's been a decided shift in people's attitudes toward korean cars. i'm expecting the same thing will eventually happen with chinese cars. /no there was a time when people made fun of the build quality of japanese cars as compared with american cars. during the last couple years there’s been a decided shift in people’s attitudes toward korean cars. i’m expecting the same thing will eventually happen with chinese cars.

/no

]]> By: SLLLLN http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270732 SLLLLN Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:08:52 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270732 "When better cars are built, Buick will build them." Something like that motto from long ago may be applicable today. GM makes and sells in China a Buick with features not found even on a Cadillac. Perhaps GM should export to us a Chinese Buick, a better car for less money. “When better cars are built, Buick will build them.” Something like that motto from long ago may be applicable today. GM makes and sells in China a Buick with features not found even on a Cadillac. Perhaps GM should export to us a Chinese Buick, a better car for less money.

]]> By: Endurancevm http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270724 Endurancevm Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:39:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270724 There is already a copy of the Chevy Spark(made by Deawoo) i believe its made by Chery. I meants it not worrying because all the cars built in China are obselete to cars in teh rest of the world. I guess its not that big of a worry that the Chinese will take away the American leftovers. Im still wondering about the quality of the Hornet, hopefully its not sold here...ever. There is already a copy of the Chevy Spark(made by Deawoo) i believe its made by Chery. I meants it not worrying because all the cars built in China are obselete to cars in teh rest of the world. I guess its not that big of a worry that the Chinese will take away the American leftovers. Im still wondering about the quality of the Hornet, hopefully its not sold here…ever.

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270721 Piablo Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:09:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270721 Before Chrysler gives any engineering plans to a Chinese plant, they better put a giant FBI warning on the cover stating "It is unlawful to duplicate, copy, etc...". Next thing ya know, I'll be seeing cheap Chinese knock-offs of Chrysler cars being hustled on the city streets! Before Chrysler gives any engineering plans to a Chinese plant, they better put a giant FBI warning on the cover stating “It is unlawful to duplicate, copy, etc…”. Next thing ya know, I’ll be seeing cheap Chinese knock-offs of Chrysler cars being hustled on the city streets!

]]> By: Random Jerk http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270711 Random Jerk Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:33:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270711 "At any point in time the Chinese goverment can take away and plant and all the plans an property of DCX and call it theirs…the beauty of Communism." Also, the moon might crack in half like an egg and release a giant space monster. China is dependant on the rest of the world for their economic gains, the last thing they want to do is burn their partners. They need investment just like they need markets to sell their manufactured goods. If China, or any other country started to nationalize foreign owned property investments would dry up over night. The costs would far outweigh the gains. It's about as likely to happen there as it is to happen in the US. “At any point in time the Chinese goverment can take away and plant and all the plans an property of DCX and call it theirs…the beauty of Communism.”

Also, the moon might crack in half like an egg and release a giant space monster.

China is dependant on the rest of the world for their economic gains, the last thing they want to do is burn their partners. They need investment just like they need markets to sell their manufactured goods. If China, or any other country started to nationalize foreign owned property investments would dry up over night. The costs would far outweigh the gains. It’s about as likely to happen there as it is to happen in the US.

]]> By: MyGodBeatsYourGod http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270706 MyGodBeatsYourGod Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:21:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270706 Bribes...uh, sorry. Meant 'administrative and local ordinance fees'. Bribes…uh, sorry.

Meant ‘administrative and local ordinance fees’.

]]> By: MyGodBeatsYourGod http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270704 MyGodBeatsYourGod Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:18:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270704 I have been getting tooling and parts from Hong Kong and ShenZhen for about 8 years. HK is clean and nice, SZ makes Detroit look like...well better, anyway... That whole ownership issue is generally a red herring. Know a company who had tooling 'reowned' in Juarez by the local state government and the feds in Mexico City won't give it the "papers" to reimport back here. Setting up shop outside your own legal system is still a risky business anywhere. You treat the locals with humility and pay the bribes to the politicos and hope for the best. I have been getting tooling and parts from Hong Kong and ShenZhen for about 8 years. HK is clean and nice, SZ makes Detroit look like…well better, anyway…

That whole ownership issue is generally a red herring. Know a company who had tooling ‘reowned’ in Juarez by the local state government and the feds in Mexico City won’t give it the “papers” to reimport back here. Setting up shop outside your own legal system is still a risky business anywhere. You treat the locals with humility and pay the bribes to the politicos and hope for the best.

]]> By: Endurancevm http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270686 Endurancevm Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:28:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270686 You all forget that whatever is made in China, belongs to China. At any point in time the Chinese goverment can take away and plant and all the plans an property of DCX and call it theirs...the beauty of Communism. You all forget that whatever is made in China, belongs to China. At any point in time the Chinese goverment can take away and plant and all the plans an property of DCX and call it theirs…the beauty of Communism.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270683 Veda Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:20:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270683 Basically it's going to be made in China in Chery's plants. Chery may actually learn something out of this partnership and be able to make an acceptable car on their own for US sales. Basically it’s going to be made in China in Chery’s plants. Chery may actually learn something out of this partnership and be able to make an acceptable car on their own for US sales.

]]> By: angelo http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270676 angelo Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:55:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270676 I'm not going to sit here and talk up the UAW. However, how about the quality issues known to happen consistently at Chinese plants? Are we near manufacturing in China as well as we manufacture in the US? I’m not going to sit here and talk up the UAW. However, how about the quality issues known to happen consistently at Chinese plants? Are we near manufacturing in China as well as we manufacture in the US?

]]> By: Brendino http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270674 Brendino Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:52:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270674 First of all, that is nothing like the xB...it's way smaller (B segment) and has suicide doors. It is weird looking, but I have a feeling it'll be made a bit more conservative for production. Second, I can't believe that cars haven't been made in China already anyways...everything else is these days. First of all, that is nothing like the xB…it’s way smaller (B segment) and has suicide doors. It is weird looking, but I have a feeling it’ll be made a bit more conservative for production.

Second, I can’t believe that cars haven’t been made in China already anyways…everything else is these days.

]]> By: Fatstrat http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270671 Fatstrat Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:47:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270671 I think it resembles the XA a little more than the XB. IMHO. Won't find me buying a Chinese car. They get enough of my $$ already. I think it resembles the XA a little more than the XB. IMHO.
Won’t find me buying a Chinese car. They get enough of my $$ already.

]]> By: lanapat7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270659 lanapat7 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:19:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270659 Obviously it will provide cost savings that tranlate into lower car prices. But Chrysler has other plants they could use- i.e. the Mercedes Benz plant in Brazil that manufactures the C-coupe. China is attractive because they could manufacture for export markets and for the Chinese market that has exploded like wildfires. The Hornet is a clone of the Scion xB. It's sad to see DCX copying others instead of being design leaders. Obviously it will provide cost savings that tranlate into lower car prices. But Chrysler has other plants they could use- i.e. the Mercedes Benz plant in Brazil that manufactures the C-coupe.
China is attractive because they could manufacture for export markets and for the Chinese market that has exploded like wildfires.
The Hornet is a clone of the Scion xB. It’s sad to see DCX copying others instead of being design leaders.

]]> By: Endurancevm http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270658 Endurancevm Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:17:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270658 ^Agreed. ^Agreed.

]]> By: 1234 http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-270655 1234 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:12:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/26/first-chinese-cars-in-us-to-be-american/#comment-270655 Wow that thing is butt ugly! Wow that thing is butt ugly!

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