Comments on: Followup: Pontiac says no manual gearbox for G8 GT http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Got Handling? http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390877 Got Handling? Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:36:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390877 GM: its what happens when senile men run companies GM: its what happens when senile men run companies

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390759 beatusmongous Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:50:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390759 Ray, I'll admit that particular one is pretty badass, but my friend's didn't look like that. His was peeling baby blue, and it had a horrible weld down the middle where he put it back together. He kept the stock wheels, had no VW logo, and had no seats besides his and the front passenger. Basically, it was a crappy version of this: http://info.detnews.com/dn/joyrides/2001/beetles01/72vwbusjeri.jpg But that was high school. We did dumb things back then just for fun. And my friend still looked like a retard. Ray, I’ll admit that particular one is pretty badass, but my friend’s didn’t look like that. His was peeling baby blue, and it had a horrible weld down the middle where he put it back together. He kept the stock wheels, had no VW logo, and had no seats besides his and the front passenger. Basically, it was a crappy version of this:
http://info.detnews.com/dn/joyrides/2001/beetles01/72vwbusjeri.jpg

But that was high school. We did dumb things back then just for fun. And my friend still looked like a retard.

]]> By: Get Real http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390753 Get Real Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:35:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390753 IS THERE ANYONE IN CHARGE AT GM ??????? IS THERE ANYONE IN CHARGE AT GM ???????

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390715 A4 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:14:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390715 that sucks now danny whats his finger cant sit on the shift knob and wiggle all around that sucks now danny whats his finger cant sit on the shift knob and wiggle all around

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390692 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:36:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390692 retard? a shortened VW bus is badass! http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/events/0110vwt_08zoom+Volkswagen_Bus+Wheelie.jpg retard? a shortened VW bus is badass!

http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/events/0110vwt_08zoom+Volkswagen_Bus+Wheelie.jpg

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390637 Need4SSpeed Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:50:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390637 I have and aunt and uncle that still have their 60's VW Camper.. I love that thing. Just like what mayer_ray_nagin was talking about with the 10ft stick shift, haha vibrations all over the place. They still use it to travel to northern Michigan though and it's still running... I have and aunt and uncle that still have their 60′s VW Camper.. I love that thing. Just like what mayer_ray_nagin was talking about with the 10ft stick shift, haha vibrations all over the place. They still use it to travel to northern Michigan though and it’s still running…

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390634 beatusmongous Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:46:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390634 Ah, the old VW Bus. Great car. A friend of mine took one and cut out the middle and made it short. He took a VW Bus and made a VW Short Bus out of it. And, yeah, he looked like a retard when he drove it, so it was very fitting. Ah, the old VW Bus. Great car. A friend of mine took one and cut out the middle and made it short. He took a VW Bus and made a VW Short Bus out of it. And, yeah, he looked like a retard when he drove it, so it was very fitting.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390627 xyunya Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:39:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390627 You got it. That was it. You got it. That was it.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390615 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:22:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390615 Xyunya, you mean a Vanagon or whatever those FWD water cooled piles of crap are that replaced the original? The ones that were priced sky high? Yeahhaha. Smart dude! Xyunya, you mean a Vanagon or whatever those FWD water cooled piles of crap are that replaced the original? The ones that were priced sky high?

Yeahhaha. Smart dude!

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390603 xyunya Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:47:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390603 mayer_ray_nagin, I have a former colleague who bought 200? WV bus. It has all the noises preserved from 60s, slow acceleration and reliability of 60s bus. It did cost him more, and he hated it, and could not sell :) . mayer_ray_nagin, I have a former colleague who bought 200? WV bus. It has all the noises preserved from 60s, slow acceleration and reliability of 60s bus. It did cost him more, and he hated it, and could not sell :) .

]]> By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390596 oldraven Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:37:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390596 Stupid, stupid, stupid and a little stupid on the side. (Spam, spam, spam, spam....) Everything should have a manual option. This is a fact. Has anyone told Pontiac about CAFE yet? A manual option would help the Ponchos get there. Stupid, stupid, stupid and a little stupid on the side. (Spam, spam, spam, spam….)

Everything should have a manual option. This is a fact. Has anyone told Pontiac about CAFE yet? A manual option would help the Ponchos get there.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390593 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:27:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390593 A cousin once had an old 60s VW bus with a manual. What a cool thing that was. A freakin 2 foot rod poking up uot of the floor, a $hitload of noise rattling out from under the floor in the back, 2 very flat vinyl seats up front, the front crumple-zone consisted of an AM radio, 0-60 in 9 days. Ahhh, I loved that. A cousin once had an old 60s VW bus with a manual. What a cool thing that was. A freakin 2 foot rod poking up uot of the floor, a $hitload of noise rattling out from under the floor in the back, 2 very flat vinyl seats up front, the front crumple-zone consisted of an AM radio, 0-60 in 9 days.

Ahhh, I loved that.

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390589 beatusmongous Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:22:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390589 WARNING: SARCASM AHEAD! Who wants a manual? They get in the way of doing more important things, like talking on the phone, eating, watching TV, sending text messages, drinking my BigGulp, catcalling at chicks, etc. Last time I tried talking on the phone while driving a manual, I dropped the thing into my BigGulp, and when I went to reach it, I spilled my BigGulp all over the floor, causing me to swear, causing me to drop the cigarette in my lips, starting a small fire, making me swear some more and swerve, making me drop my burger. I was so mad! And all because I was driving a dang manual! CAUTION: BACK TO REALITY! I wish every car had the option of a manual, really. I was ticked when I went to buy my minivan and there was only the option of an automatic. My wife was even a bit upset. She loves manuals. In my family, only one person does not prefer a manual. But really, I honestly feel the roads would be a lot safer if we had manuals, because I feel people would be forced to pay attention to their driving rather than the other silly things. WARNING: SARCASM AHEAD!

Who wants a manual? They get in the way of doing more important things, like talking on the phone, eating, watching TV, sending text messages, drinking my BigGulp, catcalling at chicks, etc. Last time I tried talking on the phone while driving a manual, I dropped the thing into my BigGulp, and when I went to reach it, I spilled my BigGulp all over the floor, causing me to swear, causing me to drop the cigarette in my lips, starting a small fire, making me swear some more and swerve, making me drop my burger. I was so mad! And all because I was driving a dang manual!

CAUTION: BACK TO REALITY!

I wish every car had the option of a manual, really. I was ticked when I went to buy my minivan and there was only the option of an automatic. My wife was even a bit upset. She loves manuals. In my family, only one person does not prefer a manual. But really, I honestly feel the roads would be a lot safer if we had manuals, because I feel people would be forced to pay attention to their driving rather than the other silly things.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390577 johnnycanuck Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:09:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390577 Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid and even more stupid. Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid and even more stupid.

]]> By: SigmaHyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390574 SigmaHyperion Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:02:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390574 I would say that, by definition, the GXP is the "enthusiast model" and that one does have the Manual option. It's the standard up-engined version that doesn't. I would say that, by definition, the GXP is the “enthusiast model” and that one does have the Manual option. It’s the standard up-engined version that doesn’t.

]]> By: CleanGTO http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390572 CleanGTO Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:58:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390572 We're not talking about jap cars here. Why would Pontiac make an enthusiast model without enthusiast options? Bad call chief. We’re not talking about jap cars here. Why would Pontiac make an enthusiast model without enthusiast options? Bad call chief.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390570 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:54:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390570 Actually, thanks SWM, yes you can get a 3.5 V6 Altima with a stick. The way Nissan's Options are, if you want any options at all, you effectively need to buy a package that has almost all the options which shoves the thing into near-lux pricing, almost, but at least there is one vehicle out there. I hope the next time I buy they don't eliminate sticks from the 4-cylinder models. I'll probably need a sedan or 4-door hatch to tote the parents when they visit but I want something to row thru to at least have a bit of fun. Not a fan of turbos so the Mazdaspeed won't work. Actually, thanks SWM, yes you can get a 3.5 V6 Altima with a stick. The way Nissan’s Options are, if you want any options at all, you effectively need to buy a package that has almost all the options which shoves the thing into near-lux pricing, almost, but at least there is one vehicle out there.

I hope the next time I buy they don’t eliminate sticks from the 4-cylinder models. I’ll probably need a sedan or 4-door hatch to tote the parents when they visit but I want something to row thru to at least have a bit of fun. Not a fan of turbos so the Mazdaspeed won’t work.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390568 Need4SSpeed Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:50:31 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390568 Yeah you still can SWM335, I just checked. You can get a 6spd manual with the base model. Wow, well at least the Altima offers it. I've heard good things about the new Altima too. Yeah you still can SWM335, I just checked. You can get a 6spd manual with the base model. Wow, well at least the Altima offers it. I’ve heard good things about the new Altima too.

]]> By: Mclaren19p http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390561 Mclaren19p Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:36:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390561 Sigh this is what happens when everyone gets fatter and lazier and can't be bothered with pushing a clutch. In as much as we whine, nearly all the buyers of this car will not be bothered that it doesn't have a manual, in fact it makes their choice easier. Even F1 type transmissions are threatening to make the driving purist/enthusiasts an extinct species. Woe to that time if it ever occurs, because cars will just be boxes to carry people and their stuff instead of having fun. Sigh this is what happens when everyone gets fatter and lazier and can’t be bothered with pushing a clutch. In as much as we whine, nearly all the buyers of this car will not be bothered that it doesn’t have a manual, in fact it makes their choice easier. Even F1 type transmissions are threatening to make the driving purist/enthusiasts an extinct species. Woe to that time if it ever occurs, because cars will just be boxes to carry people and their stuff instead of having fun.

]]> By: SWM335 http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390557 SWM335 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:32:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390557 Can you get a manual in the Altima with the V6? I know that you could at one point, but I don't know if they still do. Can you get a manual in the Altima with the V6? I know that you could at one point, but I don’t know if they still do.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390554 xyunya Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390554 mayer_ray_nagin, you are right. Previous gen Accord you could get V6 with stick. You can get TL type S with manual, but it is akin to Pontiac choice. mayer_ray_nagin, you are right. Previous gen Accord you could get V6 with stick. You can get TL type S with manual, but it is akin to Pontiac choice.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390555 Need4SSpeed Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:28:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390555 "It’s just a bit frustrating, but I do understand that is what the market wants and I suppose I am a rarity" Yeah, you, me and I think half of the people here leaving comments on LLN are the minority that prefer manuals. I've always preferred to drive coupes, so there's usually not a shortage of manual offerings in that segment, like in the V6 Accord Coupe (which I really like alot). But yeah not soo much for the 4 door sedan segment. Unless it's a European car... “It’s just a bit frustrating, but I do understand that is what the market wants and I suppose I am a rarity”

Yeah, you, me and I think half of the people here leaving comments on LLN are the minority that prefer manuals.

I’ve always preferred to drive coupes, so there’s usually not a shortage of manual offerings in that segment, like in the V6 Accord Coupe (which I really like alot).

But yeah not soo much for the 4 door sedan segment. Unless it’s a European car…

]]> By: SigmaHyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390551 SigmaHyperion Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:22:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390551 Yeah, I forgot that Honda added the manual option on the sedan back in 2006, but then ditched it again with the 2008 redesign. Yeah, I forgot that Honda added the manual option on the sedan back in 2006, but then ditched it again with the 2008 redesign.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390549 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:16:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390549 You guys are talking the Accord Coupe. The Accord sedan can not be had with a V6 and a stick. http://automobiles.honda.com/accord/ You guys are talking the Accord Coupe.
The Accord sedan can not be had with a V6 and a stick.

http://automobiles.honda.com/accord/

]]> By: SigmaHyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390548 SigmaHyperion Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:15:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390548 Oh, but you're right, the Accord only offers a V6 Manual in the Coupe form. Oh, but you’re right, the Accord only offers a V6 Manual in the Coupe form.

]]> By: SigmaHyperion http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390547 SigmaHyperion Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:13:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390547 And the Mazda6 is losing the Manual on the V6 with the redesign next year. That leaves only the Accord as offering a Manual V6 at a sub-$30K pricepoint. And the Mazda6 is losing the Manual on the V6 with the redesign next year. That leaves only the Accord as offering a Manual V6 at a sub-$30K pricepoint.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390546 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:10:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390546 Xyunya, on Honda's website I can't get a V6 Accord sedan with a stick. Only 4 cylinders. I mean not a "tiptronic" auto. Camry also is not available as a V6 with a stick. Mazda6 offers a stick with a V6 only in the base level. Want some leather or a better stereo and you lose the stick. . It's just a bit frustrating, but I do understand that is what the market wants and I suppose I am a rarity. Xyunya, on Honda’s website I can’t get a V6 Accord sedan with a stick. Only 4 cylinders. I mean not a “tiptronic” auto.

Camry also is not available as a V6 with a stick.

Mazda6 offers a stick with a V6 only in the base level. Want some leather or a better stereo and you lose the stick.
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It’s just a bit frustrating, but I do understand that is what the market wants and I suppose I am a rarity.

]]> By: Fletch http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390545 Fletch Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:09:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390545 Another poor product development plan. It's sort of pitiful. Was this another bean counter decision, I'm stumped. Another poor product development plan. It’s sort of pitiful. Was this another bean counter decision, I’m stumped.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390542 xyunya Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:01:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390542 mayer_ray_nagin, you can buy any Honda with manual, including V6. mayer_ray_nagin, you can buy any Honda with manual, including V6.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390540 Need4SSpeed Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:58:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390540 No I don't think so mayer_ray_nagin. I can't think of any V6 sedans in any of the big threes' lineup that offer a manual option. Which is stupid and leaves you to chose from 4cyl's or high performance variants with V8's.... Yeah the big three are really stupid, but the only thing you can't blame them for is the majority of American consumers wanting automatics.... That isn't the automaker's fault. They have to cater to their demands. Oh and yeah soo stupid they won't offer a manual tranny on any model besides the GXP. No I don’t think so mayer_ray_nagin. I can’t think of any V6 sedans in any of the big threes’ lineup that offer a manual option.

Which is stupid and leaves you to chose from 4cyl’s or high performance variants with V8′s…. Yeah the big three are really stupid, but the only thing you can’t blame them for is the majority of American consumers wanting automatics…. That isn’t the automaker’s fault. They have to cater to their demands.

Oh and yeah soo stupid they won’t offer a manual tranny on any model besides the GXP.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390537 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:50:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390537 I mean in the USA, of course. Euro has them all over the place. I mean in the USA, of course. Euro has them all over the place.

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390536 mayer_ray_nagin Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:49:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390536 Does any normal (non-lux) carmaker offer a V6 sedan with a stick? Does any normal (non-lux) carmaker offer a V6 sedan with a stick?

]]> By: shaver http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390535 shaver Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:46:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390535 At least there is one in the Hi-Po model. But its a shame to me the DI V6 with six speed manual would be fun and efficient. At least there is one in the Hi-Po model. But its a shame to me the DI V6 with six speed manual would be fun and efficient.

]]> By: Stinky007 http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390534 Stinky007 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:44:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390534 I like it how big manufacturers can be so lame/stupid! When it comes to something as simple as exchanging the gearbox with one already developed, they say no, but they find the stupidest of "niche markets" to develop whole new cars for... The bigger the company, the more retarded it acts! I like it how big manufacturers can be so lame/stupid!
When it comes to something as simple as exchanging the gearbox with one already developed, they say no, but they find the stupidest of “niche markets” to develop whole new cars for…
The bigger the company, the more retarded it acts!

]]> By: SWM335 http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390532 SWM335 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:41:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390532 That is a stupid mistake. A manual should have been offered from the beginning, and now, there not going to offer one at all! How hard can it be to offer one, its basically the same car as the Camaro, just with four doors. That is a stupid mistake. A manual should have been offered from the beginning, and now, there not going to offer one at all! How hard can it be to offer one, its basically the same car as the Camaro, just with four doors.

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/followup-pontiac-says-no-manual-gearbox-for-g8-gt.html#comment-390527 xyunya Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:26:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=7825#comment-390527 The great president in the last century said " Here you go again" The great president in the last century said ” Here you go again”

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