Comments on: Ford begins production of hydrogen internal combustion engine

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:14:54 +0000

Tristan,you are just as wrong as GM rules in the complete opposite direction.

By: Tristan

Tristan — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:00:48 +0000

GMrules: You’ve againproven to be inept at coherrent thought. Please stop blindly crying about GM when all their crap in the last 20 odd years has been garbage. GM sucks, and is flawed, and they will thusly die.

By: Leopold Porkstacker

Leopold Porkstacker — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:05:30 +0000

I was under the impression that hydrogen is just as costly to produce as gasoline… perhaps I was mistaken, since an American car company would neeeevver do something stupid, right GMRules???

-he who stacks pork

By: Kaptain75329

Kaptain75329 — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:58:22 +0000

JohnnyBlazE (#20) : Did you even *see* “Back to the Future”? The Fusion Reactor as shown in Parts II & III runs on waste but powers the Time Circuits® and the Flux Capacitor™ only. The Internal Combustion Engine runs on ordinary Exxon/Mobil™ gasoline; it always has.

By: cstoc

cstoc — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:21:50 +0000

#6: The combustion of hydrogen emits water vapor, but unfortunately the heat and pressure of an internal combustion engine along with the nitrogen and oxygen in the air charge, also produces some oxides of nitrogen (NO2 and NO3, or NOx), a smog-producing component. To others: hydrogen is an energy transport media, not an energy source. There are no wells with free hydrogen. Hydrogen must be freed from compounds, which takes more energy than is recovered from burning it. Currently, most commercially available hydrogen is produced from natural gas, so shortages and price fluctuations there will affect hydrogen’s price. Hydrogen power will not be viable until hydrogen can be produced on a commercial scale at a price the market accepts.

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:37:20 +0000

Bush admin has been an advocate for sustainability in consturction AND in alternative automotive fuels/cars since it’s inception.
Isn’t everything that comes out of a politicians mouth political?
Cant hide your hate.

By: Danny Futuro

Danny Futuro — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:48:34 +0000

@ #18 – the current administration HAS to bring sustainability into the limelight, as it is the biggest issue at hand at the moment. Had it been as important to other administrations then you would have seen it then. Politics shouldnt have anything to do with this though, as sustainability and environmental protection is an issue that faces all humans, not just democrats and republicans.

Maximum respect to those who support the progression of sustainable and eco-friendly energy sources, whether they be aweful automakers like Ford or lobbyists in the government.

By: GMrules

GMrules — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:40:18 +0000

What the hell is a Helium Hybrid???

By: JohnnyBlazE

JohnnyBlazE — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:13:48 +0000

The future is a DeLorean which runs on waste.

By: 3cded

3cded — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:18:54 +0000

Excuse me Mr GMrules but the reason they changed from using hydrogen in airships to helium was because helium is not explosive. Oh and why is it nobody else can spell?

By: Fatstrat

Fatstrat — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:06:59 +0000

This is a step in what appears to be the right direction. Right now, infrastructure for delivery of hydrogen based fuels is a huge question though. I think bio-fuels are still going to have their day in the sun.
By the way, ‘W’ basher Madcapp. The current administration has done more to promote sustainability in constuction and to promote alternative fueled vehicles than any administration in history regardless of party. You don’t have to like him but at least get a clue and try to have a shread of truth when bashing him. You must be smarter than that, after all, you apparently were able to turn on your computer.

By: Will

Will — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:08:00 +0000

Hydrogen will become more and more feasible as energy costs increase, because the production, transport and storage of hyrdogen requires vast amounts of energy… when these costs are comparable to fossil fuels it will become financially viable and the change will be made.

By: GMrules

GMrules — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:02:34 +0000

This engine will never work. Wait until GM’s helium hybrid comes. It will blow you all away.

By: Jim in LA

Jim in LA — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:42:07 +0000

very cool! congrats, ford.

By: Weezy

Weezy — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:21:42 +0000

Lil’ Wayne is the best rapper alive…

By: manny

manny — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:37:05 +0000

wasnt this engine in that super chief concept at detroit?
and if this engines already in production, i doubt bmw can surprise us by coming out with it first…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:17:39 +0000

more clueless responses.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:30:08 +0000

This engine is certinaly not on the market yet.

BMW’s by-now-famous hydrogen internal combustion V12 engine is scheduled to make it’s debut with the current generation 7-Series. Considering that the 7er is slated for replacement before 2008, we’ll see if Ford really becomes the “first automaker to sell a hydrogen internal combustion engine”. It’s possible that BMW will surprise us. Who knows.

By: Madcapp

Madcapp — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:16:54 +0000

At least some progress is being made on this alternative to gasoline so I gotta give Ford credit for that. Funny, I remember in W’s speech about our “addiction to oil” some speechwriter gave him the soundbyte “a Manhattan style project to develop alternative energy” and then he and his administration has done NOTHING, other than further destabilize the oil market, and drive up price, by ignoring diplomacy in political hotspots like Israel/Lebanon.

By: mikeL

mikeL — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:37:15 +0000

oh ya, and i think the common fuel guzzling v8 option on this shuttle puts out bout 250ish hp and about 350ft/lbs of torque, so it’ll be slower than the v8, but more efficient, and in a couple years will be just as efficient as the v8 as far as power goes.

By: mikeL

mikeL — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:41 +0000

tom, it is brand new technology, how good were EFI engines compared to carb engines when they first came out? besides, this is for commercial uses, shuttle busses are slow, which would explain the 235hp and 310ft/lbs of torque. also, if you remember ford’s v10 in the excursion, that wasn’t exactly hot stuff either, so i’d like to see what ford does w/ a modular v8 running hydrogen fuel in the personal vehicle market.

i’m not defending it so much as i’m saying they just need a chance to prove themselves on the technology, it really could go either way.

By: Tom in Nashville

Tom in Nashville — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:42:31 +0000

6.8 liter v-10 with an intercooled supercharger, yet it only produces 235 hp and, more importantly 310 ft/lbs of torque. What am I missing here?

By: Justin

Justin — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:40:34 +0000

I think hydrogen is going to be the fuel of the future!!.. and I just wanna know if this new hydrogen combustion engine still only emits water vapor… Wheres GM’s Hydrogen internal combustion engine.. I wonder if their betting on hydrogen fuel cell???

By: mbftw

mbftw — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:28:38 +0000

er…believing*

Hydrogen has many pros and cons, just as many as hybrids do. The market will determine which wins.

By: mbftw

mbftw — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:26:56 +0000

Well chris2…you’re an idiot for believe the “media”.

By: pj

pj — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:21:09 +0000

every media has its own opinion on what type of fuel is the future this engine says it can easily be a hydrogen/eectric engine

By: Kyle

Kyle — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:20:43 +0000

Too bad the hydrogen multifuel BMW 7 series didn’t beat it to the market.

By: chris2

chris2 — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:16:28 +0000

Why is Ford waisting their time on Hydrogen? Everyone knows that Hybrid gas/electric is the only technology for the future. Anyway that is what I read in the media.