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Ford F-150 to offer two all-new engines for 2011?

01/20/2009, 12:07 PM

By Drew Johnson

Ford just launched an all-new F-150 for the 2009 model year, but more big changes are on the way for the popular pickup. Starting in 2010 for the 2011 model year, the F-150 is rumored to be seeing a complete reshuffling of its powertrain offerings, including two all-new engines.

According to PickupTrucks.com, Ford will be replacing the F-150’s base 4.6L V8 with an all-new 5.0L unit. Internally known as ‘coyote’, the new V8 will feature four-valves per cylinder and a massive jump in power over the current 4.6L. Whereas the current 4.6L produces 248 horsepower and 294 lb-ft of torque in base-guise, the new engine will deliver 400 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque – all while returning fuel economy figures comparable to the truck’s current 5.4L V8.

The 5.0L will also replace the mid-level three-valve 4.6L V8.

In a bit of a twist for the truck segment, the F-150’s top 5.4L V8 engine option will be replaced by Ford’s new EcoBoost 3.5L V6. Although die-hard truck fans will likely take issue with a V6 displacing the V8, it’s hard to argue with the powerplant’s numbers. The six-cylinder will match the 5.0L’s power figures – with torque likely to be above the 400 lb-ft mark – but will return at least 23 mpg on the highway, 2 mpg better than the most fuel efficient F-150 offered today.

The truck’s 6.2L V8 will be sticking around, but will only be used in Raptor and Super Duty models.

Expect the new powertrain offerings to hit the market in late 2010.

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01/20, 12:10 PM

posted by:

RaineMan

Is it just me… or did that make no sense?

The base engine is 400hp 5.0… and the “premium” engine is a 400hp 3.5? Where’s the incentive to get the premium engine?

01/20, 12:33 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Screw the F150, that 5.0 needs to be in the Mustang GT.

01/20, 12:37 PM

posted by:

Z06ified

Somehow I think this 5.0L will find it’s way into the Mustang by next year, and we’ll be “Rollin in my Five Point Oh” once again, and all wil be right with the world. :)

01/20, 12:40 PM

posted by:

Borat

Johnny, speaking of ‘tang GT. It was a little snow here in last few days and roads are slippery. I was driving behind GT over the weekend at a blazing 15-20 mph. My CR-V had no troubles to hold 35 mph limit road could allow, except for massive power in front of me. From the traffic light the beast was growling and turning sideways but not moving forward. Mrs. asked what’s wrong with it. I replied that driver had no skill to start form 3rd gear and no brain to start in second. I wonder how much extra torque and horsepower would help.

01/20, 12:54 PM

posted by:

johnnycanuck

Borat, any respectable GT owner would not risk his pride and joy in such conditions, that’s why God invented winter beaters. Why risk possible damage and embarrassment when the world is littered with unwanted FWD sh*tboxes that can be had for the price of a Starbuck Latte. I’m already scheming when the time will be right to put mine back on the road. Usually I can last until April before the force becomes too strong.

01/20, 1:45 PM

posted by:

Nightblack_97

The 5.0 would be exactly what the mustang needs.
Yay! Obama
NO OIL DRILLING so the v8 rear drive cars we want will cost to much to operate on fricking ethanol
HIGHER TAXES so we’ll have less money to spend on our cars
FREE HEALTH CARE so we’ll have to put extra miles on our cars driving to somewhere where good doctors are after the system is destroyed by the goverment.

He’s our president now and I wish him and America the best. I hope he suprises us all and does a great job. As long as America wins we all win. But it could be a very dark four years of “change”

No ecoboost for the mustang GT and the purists but why not for the base model. Those people wouldn’t be offended by better mileage and more power. I love the new stang but 17/25 with the way gas is going…

01/20, 2:37 PM

posted by:

yarddog82abn

I need this… I’m only getting 432HP and that’s with a ROUSH-CHARGER…..

01/20, 2:48 PM

posted by:

sequoiatrader

I would be suprised to see the 5.4 go away.

01/20, 2:52 PM

posted by:

JakeK66

Pretty much my same sentiments, Nightblack.

I think Ford will product some sort of ecoboost for the base Mustang, althought the 4.0 now gets actually pretty good performance numbers, it’s still a archaic Ranger engine competeting with a new DI 3.6L V6 Camaro that shares it’s engine with an UPLEVEL CTS. Extremely outdated small pickup truck engine vs. extremely new Car of the Year’s high end high featured V-6? Soemthing’s gotta give.

01/20, 3:27 PM

posted by:

ktulu

ALL HAIL THE OBAMSTER, KING OF THE FREE WORLD!!!!!!!

01/20, 3:41 PM

posted by:

Payton Byrd

The Eco-Boost will be the premium engine because of the improved fuel economy. 3mpg over the 20 MPG of the 5.4L is a 15% improvement which can save a person $1350 per year if driving 15K miles at $2.00 per gallon.

01/20, 4:31 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

Wait, so their going to charge more for the V-6?

That just doesn’t make sense. I don’t perceive large, petrol V-6’s to be as good at towing, power, etc. as V-8’s. It’s not entirely perception either, just look at the current slew of low powered, inneficient 6 cylinder truck engines. Dream combo for me…

3.5L 6 cyl- 250hp~ 280ftibs tq (replaces 4.0 V-6)
3.5L ecoboost 6 cyl- 300 hp~ 300ftibs tq (replaces two valve 4.6L)
4.4L diesel- 250hp~ 400ftibs tq (new diesel, try for 25 mpg)
4.6L V8- 350hp~ 380ftibs tq (replaces 5.4 liter V8)
5.0 liter V8- 380 hp~ (who needs 400 hp?), 420ftibs tq (more powerful V-8 for comp. lower production than last models to meet emissions)

6 speed manual or auto. I bet the eco-boost engine could get around 24 miles per gallon. Have the whole market covered, on track to meet emissions (figure another generation, and aim for F-150 average of 20 mpg for 2015, less drag on Ford as a whole).

More importantly than Obama, and on the subject of trucks… nine more days until Isuzu pulls out of North America.

01/20, 4:46 PM

posted by:

mayer_ray_nagin

Payton Byrd where did you get that math? $1350 per year at 15k miles and $2 gas? Try 196 dollars. I’ll be generaous and round up to $200 bucks.

…….. 15000 ÷ 20 = 750
…….. 15000 ÷ 23 = 652
…….. 750 – 652 = 98 gallons saved x $2 = $196/year.

01/20, 5:04 PM

posted by:

Thunder Chicken

I’m wondering how durable a relatively small boosted V6 would be when used for towing. The engine would be on the boost the whole time the trailer was attached…

01/20, 5:17 PM

posted by:

shane train

The way to save money is to simplify model ranges. I mean, lets think about it. You can get an iPod in black or gray. But if you could get something comparable in Black, gray, pink, orange, yellow, green, or purple, then that’s great, more choices.

But let’s say that the pink, orange, etc don’t sell well, what happens, they just sit there. They are never sold and they go to the shelf at some discount store eventually. But if those odd colored iPod like devices were silver or black, they would have sold. Car manufacturers need to think this way. If you have 6 engine choices, and only 3 are strong sellers, then the bodies containing the weak sellers are a waste because they could contain a strong seller.

get it?

01/20, 6:30 PM

posted by:

Mutant@DCX

k bell turbo that mutha, bring back the Lightning SVT

01/20, 6:31 PM

posted by:

Mutant@DCX

duh, supercharger

01/20, 8:45 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

shane train- True, but that’s when you’d have lower production models, to keep people happy and have a diverse market share.

01/20, 9:13 PM

posted by:

Gundy

If a V6 has more torque and more horsepower than a V8, would it not tow a trailer, boat, or whatever, at least as good as the lesser V8? The number of cylinders isn’t magic, the torque and horsepower numbers are what matters, or am I way off?

01/20, 10:26 PM

posted by:

HRR

Way too fuking many engine combo’s. More POS’s for people with absolutely NO USE FOR A TRUCK!

5.0= MOST OVERRATED POS ENGINE EVER PRODUCED.

I’m sure the fag boys with their gelled hair and popped collars are getting a big stiffy over hearing the words “5.0″

Now they have another Ford product they can stick a Chevy Cowl Induction hood on! Dumbasses.

01/21, 7:59 AM

posted by:

Gundy

Silly me, asking an actual question on a “forum” and halfway expecting an actual answer, I should know better. This “forum” is for trashing everyone else, and sometimes, mentioning the vehicle in question.. Or, maybe nobody has read my question yet, if so, sorry for the accusation.

01/21, 11:35 AM

posted by:

Bubs Solo

Gundy
I think one of the previous posters questioned this V6 in this type of application and made mention that the torque and hp is based on the turbos… what happens when you’re pulling a heavy load those turbos will be constantly spooling. That would suck.

01/21, 12:56 PM

posted by:

global_lightning

The one problem may be which octane fuel the new engines need. If they need 92+ octane, this is fine for sports cars but will limit it’s appeal to trucks. 92 octane is not readily available throughout the U.S. and the extra cost will affect its appeal to commercial buyers.

01/21, 2:09 PM

posted by:

rancheronut

about time. that 4.6 is a joke for use in fullsize truck and crownvic. the only way ford could get 4.6 to work in the mustang was to supercharge it.

01/22, 2:07 AM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

I think 400 HP is expected at this point for Ford so that will be a wise choice while Innovating like Toyota.
I’d like to see the Dual Clutch apply to all Ford product is it increases MPG and Performance as much as they say a Dual Clutch system does!. Of Course price point is important. But I am looking to the day the damn thing drives me to my destination and I don’t have to get involved in childish Road Rage episodes. Llol

12/19, 3:36 PM

posted by:

fasttrucks81

ford needs to get rid of the v6 in the trucks and put in the 6.2, the 6.2 might not do as good on mileage but i would prefer to have the 6.2 then the 5.0 or the ecoboost

 
 
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