This will be a very successful vehicle, and though the coupe is drop-dead gorgeous, I’m not digging the tail lights of the sedan - maybe this is unique to the Chinese model?

thank god we’ll get the hatchback… i cant believe they got rid of the focus hatch… i used to actually consider focuses decent vehicles when they were in hatch form, now… no.

a source at fords mexican plant….
jose the tortilla boy?

^ A4

I hope you didn’t just make a quirk at Mexicans. Do you even know why they have plants in these non-US countries anyways? It saves money. $76/hr here vs $10/hr (sometimes, $10/day). I’m sure regardless where this vehicle is built, it will be a good one.

^Architect

Yeah, I agree. They might revise the taillights, make it more edgy, instead of Corolla stupid…

Wow again! Is Ford finally paying attention to SOMEBODY?! Sure the face looks like a trout, but the whole design is very appealing. I like this quite a bit.

It shows what a sucky company Ford is that they almost decided not to bring the hatchback here.

We still get the focus hatch in australia and its a great car! shame you guys dont get it anymore. I also agree that the design of the sedan looks a little awkward to say the least.

Towne car of the future… sad world we live in.

I have an idea. Get rid of the US Focus in general and bring this over in sedan and hatchback form. There you go, Ford’s new compact car in sedan or hatchback and outdoes the US Focus in every aspect.

Looking good! Overall this is a BIG improvement over the Focus. Now just offer something higher-end that’s closer to the Verve concept for people who want a little sportier vehicle. Ford and Lincoln are on the right track- now Mercury just needs to get on board!

Howsmydriving, Honda must be more sucky than Ford because Honda flat out denies the USA that hot Civic hatch they offer in Europe.

I still see old Focus hatches everywhere so I have no clue what Ford was thinking when they killed it. That was far and away the better Focus.

And Lau, Jose is a proud Tortilla Boy! A4 was paying him tribute.

Hoosier, keep in mind this is NOT a Focus replacement. The US will get the European Focus in 2010 and the Ford Kuga shortly thereafter. Not to mention, the new 2010 Taurus based asthetically on the European Mondeo. If Ford makes it over this hump, they will have the best domestic offerings.

A4….without the Mexican or Chinese, you are bankcrupted long ago.

uhh i never said that you word twisting halfwits, i was merely making a statement that LLN’s “source” doesnt sound very credible. kindly blow it out your asses.

I just hope that all the plants that FORD is retooling will be to bring cars like this state side, I had a SVT Focus and it was fun, I put a Turbo and all the other tunner stuff, after a year I sold it to some kid, he still has it, something like this goes up for sale I just may get one…

The sedan is as ungainly as the hideous Focus sedan being forced on American consumers now. I do not understand why all compact sedans from US carmakers look stupid, like cousins of the Toyota Echo,while most European ones look great. I have more hope for the hatch.

DAMN you Ford!! Awesome designs and crap quality I would so love to buy one of these, but having been burned by my 2001 Focus, there’s no way in hell I’m buying another Ford products (or any domestic brand for that matter). Sigh Japanese cars are so boring but reliable, what a drag.

“In order to ramp up North American capacity, Ford will invest $3 billion in its Cuautitlan, Mexico facility” why they don’t ask Mexican government to pay for bailout?

Oh, it is hideous car, but may be acceptable in China.

TomF, your dissertation on the GM propaganda video yesterday was easily a nominee for post of the year. Now someone at LLN please explain why not only did you choose to delete the article- and yes we know you had essentially posted the same story twice- but ignore the 10 or so comments on the second one instead of cutting and pasting those onto the original.

TomF and Borat, you’re both right- this car looks like *ss, but since most cars in this class look like they came out of said orifice it’s not that relevant. The important issue is to have a player in the game, and no one’s forcing you to buy the 4 door. It does look better than a Venza, but that’s like scraping gum off your shoe and calling it art.

ugly!
nothing to do with the urban hatch, which almost got the “car of the year award” (lost by 1 point)

It looks weird…but it does look thoroughly modern. I’m sure it’ll grow on me.

The front is tidy, the rear three quarter is far too heavy looking.

Johnnycanuck, thanks… I figured I’d upset somebody at LLN with that. I guess they’re rather have people calling each other names on here.

This will likely sell.

But it looks too much of a Fit-wannabe trying to be a sedan.

Eh. At least Ford redeems in sending us the hatch.

-eat your cereal

Ford…how about the Three Door ,Please.
Scion tC, about 2 years ago, was selling around 70-80,000 units per year(although faster than this car will be,etc…most likely)….still… it shows that there is a market for Some types of 3 door cars.
Even now… it’s selling “slowly”, and the last I had heard, it has sold close to 40,000 units in 10 months….so , You Never Know..Until You Try(to sell it)…how well a 3 door will do.
They could even start out with “low” numbers..to see how they sell?

If not… I dunno.

Seems like a pretty good car to me. I’m not sold on the grille. I like this MT illustration more. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0809_2010_ford_fiesta_analysis/photo_03.html
Still, much better than the Fit, Aveo, Yaris, or Versa.

damn that looks good! i just HATE the name. it makes it sound cheap without even seeing it!

How bout dropping the 3.5 263 HP V6 in it and a six speed manual and call it the Fiesta sport. Just a thought!

LJ: You’re saying the Scion TC is a 3-door? It’s not a hatchback, so I’m not clear on what you mean. It’s a standard coupe configuration.

Official details about 2011 US Ford Fiesta have been available here http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011fiesta/ for some time now.
I’m surprised no online car outlet picked up on it since it sheds some light about the powertrain that Ford will use in North American Fiesta which is really great - 1.6L Ti-VCT and PowerShift (6-speed dual-cutch transmission).

beemerdude… yes, it’s a hatchback…. the tC. We own a 2005 model.
I was noticing recently how some people I talk to(I know) use terms such as ” 3 door” (for Coupe with hatchback, etc..)”5 door”,(for wagon/suv) “4 door”(for sedan).
That’s all.
I also had noticed in the recent past , how some reports on vehicles, they call them Sedans(if they have 5 doors/wagon)..or a Coupe(if it has 3 doors), and avoid the word “hatchback” , as if it were illegal to say such a word, in print, or verbally.

Anyhow… hatchback/ 3 doors… etc… sold well for Scion, until this year, and even with the slow down, they may sell 50,000-60,000 units..which should be enough to make a profit for Toyota?

I noticed, 2-3 years ago, cars like the Hyundai Tiburon, 20-24,000 units per year(only). Moderate success(??) for Hyundai? Mitsubishi.. 1-2 years ago,, sold less than 30,000 Eclipses, iirc…
Big 3 might not want to sell”that few” of a vehicle.. perhaps( I know they sold hatchback/ “3 doors”… of the Focus, iiirc..but now don’t, and I was told at the Ford dealership…it’s due to low sales…maybe 15-20% of their cars sold were hatchback..5 or 3 “doors”….they have a normal coupe.. with trunk..now, but I don’t know how well the 08 Focus coupe is selling).

Anyhow, tC was selling 70-80K units, vs 20-30K units for the companies mentioned above, selling a similar style (hatch/ “3 doors”) of vehicle.

The Fiesta may do better than the older Focus(3 “doors”/hatchback)….it looks good …hope they bring bring it, as we don’t need a “5 door” hatch/wagon(”hatch/sedan?).

PS:…. I hope they can “officially” hit 40 MPG, on some testing…would be nice…otherwise, I’d just save up for another year, and buy the Focus…(ours gets 37 hwy in warmer weather…and 34 now, in near freezing temps… 70% hwy, 30% city driving… 55-65MPH hwy, and rest 35-45 MPH City driving)

Our Focus says “33 MPG”, and we get 34-37(mixed..got 40 a few times this Summer, only cruse control… 65 MPH..driving 100 miles non-stop.. to the Fiesta may say, for example, 38 MPG…but on some
trips… get 40-42 MPG..I hope).

Have a good day.

Hopefully it’s not going to have a 4-speed auto like previously reported… At least have a CVT and not an old school cheap 4 speed, seriously.

This should REPLACE the Focus
Anyone who buys a Focus over this should get their a$$ kicked!
DrFill

Tritonpower5.4 how about an ecoboosted 4 instead? similiar power, better economy. And probably less weight too.
Agreed DrFill. The Focus is just dated looking and aparently drives like it too (I say apparently because I have yet to drive one)

I should have stated The Next Generation Focus vs Fiesta(if MPG is only, say… 3-5 MPG difference between the 2, and maybe 2-3 K msrp difference between these 2…how they drive, fit our needs, etc. I do like hatchbacks, though. Very versatile).

Have a good day.

Bleah! Looks like a fat man with tiny shoes! The concept looked gorgeous with those wheels, but the production version looks cheap because of those ridiculously small wheels.

Wideopenthrottle- No offense, but do you know the meaning of apparently? If so, how can you say it apparently drives like it too if you haven’t driven it yet?

It’s still a fun car. Better than the last generation… if not a bit softer.

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beemerdude

LJ: You’re saying the Scion TC is a 3-door? It’s not a hatchback, so I’m not clear on what you mean. It’s a standard coupe configuration.

Scion tC = 3 door hatch in a coupe profile. I should know, I own one… and it doesn’t have a conventional trunk, the whole trunk and backglass lift up, sort of like the old Mazda MX-6 and the Ford Probe which were also 3 door hatch coupes. That’s markedly different from the Chevrolet Beretta GT I owned prior which was a conventional 2 door coupe with trunk. Given the choice of the 2, I prefer the 3 door hatchback coupe having owned one. I’ve always been a 2 door fan, think I got it from my dad who was always a staunch coupe advocate. That said, as he’s getting older he’s looking at sedans as they’re easier for him and the family to get into.

Oh and given the choice between the 2… I’d take the tC everytime. It’s soooooo much better than the Beretta. The difference in quality could be measured in furlongs. The difference in power from the 2.4 Liter I-4 in my tC to the 2.8 Liter iron block V6 in the Beretta GT is amazing, the tC moves whereas the Beretta just lumbered along. Granted, some will probably bring up the Quad 4 GTZ Beretta but… even for as fast as they were, they had tons of issues on them motors and like my GT, they still rattled themselves to pieces. Half the time I thought the thing was made out of paper machee painted red. LoL I don’t have to bring up the transmission replacement on the automatic at 67,000 miles either do to a blown ECU either. Yeah, from having come from a GM family, I’ve come to learn that supporting them isn’t fruitful. LoL That’s before you take into account the OEM brake rotors that rust and pit from Chicago winters. The costs of a brake job were almost worse than the tranny change. LoL

I don’t think the Fiesta design for the sedan is that bad, does have some heft to the rear but because of the nose shape it kind of balances in a unique way, which kind of makes it stand out. I’m confident it’ll look better in person. I mean, compared to both of the last generation Focus sedan designs (the first gen got hit with an ugly stick before it left the factory… was nasty, hatch always looked better) and the current Focus (worst looking Ford I’ve ever seen, almost gives the Aztek a run for it’s money), this sedan looks downright appealing in comparison. The current Cheese grader Focus might be the most disgusting car Ford has produced to date. If it wasn’t for it having Microsoft Sync (don’t have enough viruses at home… need ‘em on the road too ) and the fact that it’s a U.S. auto maker with a cost-effective but roomy small car, I don’t think it’d sell. The Honda Fit, esp. the Sport, makes the thing look absolutely pathetic.

The U.S. version of the Fiesta will have the chrome grill from the concept illustration, as Ford has already previously stated that we American’s like big grills. I don’t know where they got that from… considering that everytime someone apes the VW/Audi-style shield grill on here, ya’ll go bananas… but… apparently ma and pa kettle like to have a little bling on their scoot-about car. Might make ‘em think back to fond memories of their ‘58 Chevy. Then again, could be the homeboys that has aspirations of a return of the old Rolls Royce tack on grill kits that were the rage in the 80’s. Tryin’ to bring sexy back, y’know?

Oh and Stinky007… it’s a base model. This isn’t an ST, it’s not a performance model. Not every car out there is going to come out rolling on 19’s. If you want it on big wheels, do yourself the favor… save some cash, hit Tire Rack. You’ll probably like what wheels/tires they put on it better than what Ford chooses anyhow. LoL

See Toyota, you can make subcompact cars sexy and stylish.