Best Ford idea in a long long long time.

To me the SHO wasn’t about power, I personally like the styling.

FordTaurusForever, now you can start whacking off to this news….

I’ll still believe it when I see it.

The original Taurus SHO was a mistake, literally. In terms of its inception and production Ford has Yamaha motors left over that they never used so they decided to put them in Tauruses Why they didnt put them in the Escort or T bird Ill never know
The 500 Taurus SHO would be an even worse idea. Whats next from Ford bringing the Granada name back ?

^^^^ lol

damn 1115 got in the way there- meant lol@ Needs comment lol

haha I actually agree with 1115 on that…

To be real though, I do think that if the next gen Ford Taurus is designed well, and isn’t like the re-badged 500 and isn’t the size of a yacht, I think that Ford could possibly pull off a SHO. However Ford needs to get beyond just throwing a bigger engine and slapping a SHO badge on it, they need to work with the whole vehicle and re-work the suspension, body, interior, etc and really make it stand apart from the competition.

I always thought the SHO’s were interesting. It’s great that they might produce a sedan that can compete with the Accords in terms of sportiness. The current 500 variant isn’t working, though it’s a solid car. Ford needs some aggressiveness in their design language to spark more interest. Their quality is already getting there.

I CALLED IT!

The boys over at SVT need to be in charge of coming out with the next SHO, IF it is to be revived.

Might be a good idea for marketing the newly design 2010 Taurus. But I would also like to see a performance package for the Fusion. Turbo Charged 2.5L available with 6 Spd manual.

Just bring over the Falcon from Austrailia and call it the SHO. That’s what their intent is after all, to have a G8 fighter- right? After the recent fiasco with the name, not having it called Taurus might actually help its cause.

My cous has original with Yamaha built V8. It is FWD (for RWD purists) but handles great. Nightmare in service and maintenance department from day one, but cous loves it and pays Ford tax (some branches of three should pruned once in a while). FYI, gas was about $1/gallon when he bought it; how this idea will play a year from now during $5/gallon gas I don’t know. I think Ford should seriously think of turbocharging Pinto or something smaller.

Screw the SHO, it’s just a sporty grandma car anyway. Bring back the Thunderbolt and Torino Cobra (based on the 1971 and earlier version).

^ That’s a really good idea. Kinda like fighting fire with fire. GM imports their RWD sport sedan from the land of OZ and offers it Stateside, so why can’t Ford right? Lol imagine that a new battle of re-badged Aussie cars fighting eachother across the Pacific.

If Ford brought over the Falcon, I would be in a Ford showroom to look at it. LLN also had pictures of some Falcons testing over here and I’ve seen a couple running around Dearborn. That’d be sweet.

HemiR: the ‘69-’71 Torino IMO is the most underated muscle car of that era. They are f*cking gorgeous.

Thed original SHO was fairly light and amazingly powerful for the day, unlike the new one that’s being proposed. If I can get an Accord, just for example, with a six that makes that much power (without turbocharging) for 24K or whatever why would I buy a Taurus, which, in 2010, will probably be over 4000 pounds. Probably be close to 40k too. Not happening. The SHO’s time has passed.

The last SHO was a joke, incidentally. Remember??

lol just as long as it’s the same one from Starsky and Hutch!!!! I loved the Torino.

Original SHO was hurt by the lack of manual(4spd auto) and the brakes were not great. The chassis was surprisingly good and Yamaha motor was great. V6 would not fit in the escort and not designed w/rwd in mind(no T-bird).

Nooooooooooo, not Starsky and Hutch! That one SUCKS. Bring back the 68-71 style, with the shaker hood, cobra badging and something resembling a new version of the old 428 Cobra Jet and Boss 429.

lol I guess I didn’t add enough sarcasm there HRR. The 68-71 were bad ass cars especially the Cobra.

Ok, you had me worried, my bad. I must bow in shame now……

I think this is beyond the consideration phase. The 3.5 Ecoboost with 340 hp (no, the Accord does not come close to that) is destined for the 2010 Taurus after its refresh. I doubt Ford will go manual, but it will be manumatic. The gas mileage should be almost the same as the current AWD Taurus.

As far as size, well, the Taurus is big. However, there is supposedly also a Fusion sport model (possibly with a manual) in the works for 2010MY.

Shaver, original SHO had a 5-Speed manual.

lol it’s all good. It’s just funny because I really think due to the old tv series, it clouded the publics’ perception of the Torino, and most people that are either old enough to actually remember the Torino, or knew of it don’t think of the 69 Torino GT or the Torino with the Cobra Jet 428.

Like I said if Ford does the next gen Taurus right , I think they can pull it off.

To me, SHO was about reliability issues.

Yea that Yamaha V-8 was bull****.

there was no yamaha V8

so i guess it was bull****

They need to do better than a 300HP V6 to make it a head-turner. The V6 Camry is knocking on the door with 268 already.

“Separation of the camshaft from its sprocket has been implicated in a growing number of engine failures, at around the 50,000 mile (80,000 km) mark.”

“This problem can be rectified by having the camshafts welded.”

Once again an automaker is looking to the past instead of charging into the future! I didn’t see anything wrong with the five hundred except it had a stupid name. 500 just didn’t fit the car and it lacked power other than that it’s not a bad looking car. Also what’s with the letter game? Why can’t Ford stick with one? They had SVO (my favorite), then SHO, then SVT…. Pick one already!

FYI - the SHO model was available in the first three generations of the Taurus. The 3.0 SHO V6 was available in the first (’89-91) and second (’92-95) and both were standard with 5-speed MTXs (backing up n_b_e’s comment). The first ATX was in ‘93 with a 3.2l. The Yamaha V8 was in the third gen (’96-99) with only an ATX (sorry A4). That should clear things up a bit…

Close, the 3.0 was from 1989-2005 and 3.2 were in the 1992-95 models. The 3.0 was a MTX and the 3.2L was a ATX. You were close though. The 1996-1999 were all 3.4L V-8 ATX.

Edit, I was wrong. LOL carnoisseur was right the ATX came in 1993

Funny enough… those Yamaha engines were one of the more reliable things about those cars.

And actually there was a Yamaha V8… the 3.5L V8 used in the later SHOs came from Yamaha… their only real problem was the relatively anemic power output for such an engine….

I had a loaded 1991 SHO, and IMHO, it was fantastic. HemiRoadRunner might call it a grandma car. That’s fine; to each their own. I’m sure many people did back then, too. That is, until we left the stoplight and all they saw were the grandma car’s taillights. Today is different, but back then, you had to spend big money to keep up with it. It was just hilarious to consistently blow away other sports cars back then, when hardly anyone knew what a SHO was.

As far as reliability issues, I can’t disagree with what happened to others, but I know that mine never had any kind of mechanical problem. And I thought the handling was great. The only things I didn’t like were the torque steer (obviously), and that it used a cable manual, instead of a rod.

It’s too bad that the SHO had to go out on such a bad note: on the worst body style of any Taurus, with a small V8 that was less powerful and more thirsty, and no manual option. Oh, and that skateboard spoiler, too. Sad.

Yep A4 the ugly ass oval mouthed front and oval mouthed stereo had a Yamaha 8 in it.

You knew I was going to show up did’nt you! Hey to make an modern day Taurus SHO a SHO you need the big guns 415HP Twin Force!

The Ford Taurus owned the AMerican Middle class Sedan performance car segment, and now a lowly Pontiac’s Heavy V-8 G8 GPX produces 402 HP so you need @ least the Ford twin Force V-6 that produces 415HP.
But imagine what a Twin FORCE V-8 would produce! 650 to 850 HP the problem though is the gas price my friends. Stay thirsty my friends! Ford needs a high MPG 4 cylinder variant of the Taurus. 40MPG

The SHO was a weird idea for the time. It was, like its styling, ahead of its time.

The Car was not always received well. I mean, who wants a family car that can hang with Camaros and Mustangs. It seemed a horrid waste, but it was the very essence of a muscle car. That being to take a ho-hum car and really pump it up. Most muscle cars did not do well in reliability until a serious wrench jock gave it a thorough once-over to swap out the cheap parts with higher quality bits.

While the more mature view of a new SHO is colored by notions of much more expensive cars that today’s cash strapped, credit overloaded, masses really can not or do not want to afford in such numbers anymore, I find the discussion a valid one. FORD needs some gusto and excitement to draw buyers.

I would completely opt for a sharper handling car with a hotter but not necessarily insane engine. You don’t want to scare off the the curious “soccer mom”.

My preferred load out would read as:
Engine: “Twin Force” V6 (415shp)
Drive layout: Read biased AWD with some form of active handling similar to ACURA’s SH-AWD. To be used in other FORD and LINCOLN vehicles to divest cost across numerous models. Actually I think the MKZ already something like that.
Transmission: Manual or automated manual or automatic with paddle shifters (must have six speeds).
Brakes: swap them for heavy duty truck brakes. It worked for the 2003 SVT Mustang Cobra. Cost less too.
Body work: tactful and modest aero package. A small spoiler and diffuser. Keep it low key.

^^ Good lord… we’ve been through this already. Is your memory that poor? First off, the SHO didn’t own the segment… and as you so astutely liked to compare apples to apples… the N/A 3.8 W-bodies matched up well against the earlier V6 SHOs… and the later S/C 3.8 W-bodies churned out more HP and a lot more torque.

And once again… you’re pulling these hypothetical numbers for the Twin-Force engines out of your ass… I already posted the numbers for the I4 and V6 TFs engines… as well as the proposed numbers from Ford for the possible TF V8s.. and they don’t come close to your claims of 650-850HP.

damnit blakkarr! That was meant for TaurusHumper…

This could only be good for Ford . That is if they do it right and don’t wuss it up or even flirt with a “green” anything near it. Make it for men that like to drive fast, Ford.

Just as a refresh… pretty much every source of information regarding the upcoming family of Twin-Force engines breaks them down like this, the ones marked with a “*” are currently on the table, but nothing definitive:

2.5L TF I4 - up to 260HP
3.5L TF V6 - generally range from 350-420HP
*5.0L TF V8 - speculated 400HP with increased torque over the 3.5
*6.2L TF V8 - for “Super-Duty” applications, which could make as much as 650lb-ft of torque.

FordTaurusFanboy…. Have you done even the slightest bit of research on this new family of “Twin-Force” engines?? I’m thinking not, because you keep pulling these fantastical numbers seemingly from nowhere but your ass. If you happen to have an actual source for these numbers, I’d love to see them… because after several searches, I’ve yet to find anything which even remotely correlates with your claims.

Unless you’re just cherry-picking numbers and spinning them out of context… You know, like before when you claimed the SHO was *far* more powerful than a W-body… and used the performance specs from a base ‘96 3.1L Regal to “prove” your claim, despite failing to even mention the 3.8L version (not to even mention your failure to post figures for the later supercharged 3.8) in your quest to compare “apples to apples?”

Either way… I wouldn’t be surprised if we only ever saw the 4 & 6 cylinder TFs… I’d be wholeheartedly shocked if the V8 variants actually came to fruition… but still - I’d like to see these huge power figures you keep touting!

The only good thing about the SHO was that beautiful Yamaha built engine. It was a shame to see such a great engine inside such a horrible car.

lol AMGoff FTF doesn’t have any solid proof, and you are completely right where he gets his figures from… His ass, exactly why I call him out every time he spews his crap on here. Ford is never going to put a Twin Force 415hp V6 in anything but a F150 or Expedition, unless it’s a luxury uber sedan those kinds of #’s probably wont’ make it in a Taurus, although both the G8 and Charger have 400hp+ engines, but because they are V8’s. Although it’s a great concept and a better alternative I don’t see it happening. Oh btw I drove down the street this morning on my way to work and saw that gas in metro Detroit was $3.98 for premium and $4.38, lol guess i’m going down from premium to mid grade for a little while…

^^ Luckily we’re only about 30 miles or so from the Eagle Point refinery up in Paulsboro… So regular is still floating around $3.40 a gallon… plus we use a store-branded Visa that gives us 5% back on all of our purchases there - including gas. So thankfully, since we pay it off at the end of every month, we’re really only paying about $3.23/gal at current prices.

It’s still way too much though… because of which I haven’t run my Grand Wagoneer pretty much at all in the past month or so… 10-12mpg was fine when gas was 2 bucks a gallon, but anymore I’ll only run the old gal when we have to haul something. It really is a shame… the gas prices are putting a lot of old classics off the road.

that’s not bad with the cash back on that Visa card… yeah, just from standing in line at the bank I was talking to a gentleman and we were both complaining about the gas prices, he said he just sold his boat because of high gas prices, and his son sold his Cobra Mustang, it’s really a shame

(oh and I have to correct myself I meant 4.38 for diesel) A lot of people I know are making small sacrifices by driving less, or not taking their boats out keeping the muscle cars garaged all summer instead of enjoying them like they should. I know a friend who’s keeping his GTO mostly garaged this summer.

Surprisingly I was out on Woodward Ave (Where the annual Woodward Dream Cruise is held) a couple weekends back. During the summer it’s really big with the gear heads and they all cruise on Woodward and have car meets at local bars, dealerships, etc. I thought that due to the rise in gas prices we were going to see less people out cruising, but there seemed to be just as many people out there as there have been in the previous years (I just noticed a lot more turbo 4’s than I did V8’s this year) but glad to see that’s not stopping the car enthusiasts.

All the oil company CEO’s need to be dragged into the street and recieve a public beatdown along with every other oil tycoon out there.

This is a good idea. A true “bold move,” if you will