Haaaaaaawt, I personally like it in the black with flat-black stripes combo.
That’s some impressive fuel economy for a car like this.

OK you twisted my arm… I buy one….

wow, that looks sharp in silver/red stripes

Mark,

Internals?

OOHH yea! Pure Americana here. I totally love it

I don’t like the skinnier stripes, just looks wrong to my eyes.

I’ll take a medium grey titanium exterior over a red interior. No stripes please!

Another outdated piece of detroitus designed to appeal to overgrown teenagers who just like their ‘driving’ to be loud, short and in a straight line.

gimme a break… better still gimme a 370Z

Finally…tight suspension and a wieght loss diet…and typical Ford, bring it out the year after the redesign and a year or two before the new 5.0 supercharged…

Better late than never I suppose…either way this thing is going to be a monster…

The Nissan GTR has plasma coating on it’s cylinder walls.

nissan licensed that tech from ford

i also agree w/jake on the stripes business…if i was buying the svt package i’d try to finagle wider stripes…

Uh…this will spank a 370z on the track…who’s your dealer?

Thats what Im talking about. This is a mans car right here. The REAL king of muscle cars not no abomination copy made by GM or Chrysler. Nothing better than the original founder of the pony car.

Ford working on weight reduction and aerodynamics? That’s PROGRESS!

Great looking car – Great step in the right direction for Ford.

Is it available in Furious Fuschia yet?

I think this looks best in that dark metallic blue that you see some nice shelby mustangs in. I like it, and I don’t care about the stripe…it’s not like it adds power. All I care about is that beastly looking engine!

pahammer -

i don’t think we’ll be seeing Nissan Z’s on the auction block in 30-40 years like we will this car. This thing will be worth mega $$$ in the future. Heck, it’s major $$$ now.

This is SWEET

I don’t know, Jake. I’ve seen some pretty hot old 240Zs, 280Zs and 300ZXs in the auctions going for some nice chunks of change.

Want!

This Mustang will blow right past the whimpy Corvette ZR1 looking for the Ferrari FXX, and the final figure is not truely released until 2011 we could be looking at 600 HP before Ford is done.

Tech specs look great, but I prefer the wider stripes. Minor issue, I know, but still…

whoa, they took off 8.5 lbs, that must have taken some serious cutbacks in the number of cupholders.
And Bankruptcy, the 2007 only had 450 of a claimed 500, so i highly doubt that we’ll be seeing 600. The ZR1 would still have more anyway, and it’s also lighter.

reedfast just the engine took off 120LBS so what the hell are you talking about?? THIS CAR IS PURE SEX

This car is so much sleeker than the last gen GT500. Beautiful.. wow I want one. The engine is a work of art as well, nice to actually SEE it. Not covered up in tons of plastic shrouding.

Who the heck would buy a Shelby GT350 over this?? About the same price.

So Its always a Corvette compition…..Well boyz and girlz its not like there the same class of car….But ok. What if we compare the ultimate FORD to the ZR1??? I think we should, I mean the ZR1 is the Chevy big daddy right?? OK, Has it beaten the SALEEN S7??? HMMM last time I checked the answer was NO and it wont!! But they are the same class right?? Carbon fiber, forced induction, light wieght And yet the ZR1 isn’t even in the ball park. I mean the shelby is a steel car with 4 seats….and an aluminum hood! So how do you compare that to the 2 seater vette with carbon fiber everything? You dont!! Nope! you compare it to a S7……. Which destroys whatever it races against!!!!! And the race version has alot less HP than the street version. Just thought I would point that out….. By the way the saleen S7 is powered by a TWIN TURBOALL ALUMINUM FORD 427!!! IMAGINE THAT… when the Challenger or the camero has something to offer that compares that will be another story, until then………..

Yawn…wake me up when Ford builds something exciting. 500+HP and a rudimentary system to get it to the pavement is not my idea of fun.

And it’s still an fat pig that looks like crap.

Now…if was priced at what it’s actually worth ($32-$38K) and not priced with Ford’s arrogant, overpriced pricing scam, it would be a decent car…but as it stands with an outrageous price tad and the suspension of a child’s buggy…there are FAR better cars to spend your money on.

Once again, Ford misses the mark. They are becoming America’s broken record.

“Heck, it’s major $$$ now.”

But far from worth it Jake…

This realist guy needs to lay off the crack pipe. This car is just bad ass and is the cheapest 550 horsepower car made. The 2007’s made 500 horsepower at the crank reedfast, proven by how much they made at rear wheels with 15 percent loss of horsepower thru the driveline taken into account. No car from the Factory makes the claimed horsepower at the wheels. So many people have a huge misconception when they see dyno numbers that are lower than the claimed the horsepower that the manufacture states. Crank horsepower will always be higher is than any dyno numbers because a dyno measures it at the rear wheels. A ZR1 Vette dynoed at 505 horsepower so I guess they really got reaped off using reedsfast thinking.

you guys are missing the point…wide stripes > thin stripes…jeez…this car is a fail!

Hey everybody,Ford Sucks! Shelby=Epic Fail for same old decrepid,big mouth gaping body!

Hey everybody,Ford Sucks! You can put stripes on a PIG,but it’s stil a PIG!

And the heir to the Dr.Fill troll throne is….The Realist. Find me a 550 HP sports car for less…you moron.

hahahah, oh Bankruptcy- you and your drugs. In one of the latest Car and Driver comparisons the GT500 finished behind a stock Vette C6 then in another MT issue behind a Vette Grand Sport. The Vette outhandled and outran in both tests. Both cars play in the same ballpark obviously but it’s just unfair to the mustang to be put up against the mighty ZR1. Tyson and Phelps are both great athletes but in a race one is clearly better built to be the winner.

Other then being so ridiculously heavy, Ford has done a great job with this new GT500, well done. If shopping with a little more money in my pocket though, i’d stroll right past the Ford dealership on my way to Nissan to pick up a GTR instead.

Uhhhh. Ill take a Hennesey Camaro insted. It will smoke it everytime. F.ound O.n R.oad D.ead

BTW. Hennessey’s ZR-1 Would smoke the S7.

reedfast glad you brought up the past. Unfortunately let me and everyone else here know when you know how to read and comprehend what your reading. 2007 When the Mustang GT500 came out it was first accounced that it had 450 HP, then a few months later Ford said it was 475 HP and then yet Further Still it had 500HP. That is what was said back then. I know I read it, and any deviation from that is a Falliacy on your part. So No Sir 2007 Ford Mustang GT500 Puts Out 500 HP. Now lets fast forward.

I only said possibly that Ford could possibly up the ante to 600 HP for the Mustang. It could be more, less, or stay the same depending on the price of gas. Ford can redress the situation when appropriate with its top of the line before the 2011 Mustang is put on sale. I just proved it to you with Correcting you early about the 2007 Mustang and Ford certainly can do the same thing for its 2011 Mustang as well.

Yes I know your ZR1 has the weight advantage, and put out 638 HP. Well the Mustang is getting lighter and 2014 is not too far away where Ford will totally address that problem in the mean time. As I just told you the New ALL Aluminum 5.4 Liter based on the Ford GT’s architecture but has superior supercharger ability to the 5.4 Liter found in the Ford GT. So I have NO Doubt whatsoever that if Ford wants to they can scale this Motor up to 1,500 HP and they would’nt have a problem doing so. But I think its a real possibility Ford could scale this Motor to a more reasonable 650 to 750 HP range and get great gas mileage and still avoid the gas guzzler tax to boot. So in that scenario the Ford Mustang would be putting out more Horsepower than your beloved Corvette ZR1 @ only a whimpy 638 HP.
The thing of it is you chevy guys have such a short memory, because for years it was the Dodge Viper that was the purest of American Sports cars and nothing could compete with it. Secondly the Dodge Viper Started out with a 400HP v-10 engine which was alot of HP back in the day.
Here are the stats because your probably to lazy to look it up
Dodge Viper first generation
0-60 mph (97 km/h): 4.6 sec[3]
0-100 mph (160 km/h): 9.2 sec
quarter mile: 13.1 sec @ 112 mph (180 km/h)[3]
top speed: 164 mph (264 km/h)
700 ft (210 m) slalom: over 66 mph (106 km/h)
skidpad average g: 0.96
that started off @ only 400HP but was considered alot when it came out. The Corvette was’nt even close that year and much of the next two decade behind the ever improving Dodge Viper which always came out on top
Here are the Corvette 0-60 and 1/4mile times for the 2002 model year -
1992 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.7 14.1

Here are the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for the Chevy Corvette from 57′ to 07′ or the last 50 years.
As researched through http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60_Quarter_Mile_Times/C_0-60times.html

1957 Chevrolet Corvette 6.6 14.2
1965 Chevrolet Corvette 6.2 14.9
1967 Chevrolet Corvette L71 5.6 13.8
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3 14.1
1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427ci 435hp 5.3 13.8 (C&D Sep ‘69)
1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1 14.3
1973 Corvette 350ci L82 6.7 15.1 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1973 Corvette 454ci 6.4 14.6 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6 16.4
1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1 16.5
1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8 16.6
1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3 15.7
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4 15.4
1982 Chevrolet Corvette 9.2 16.6
1984 Chevrolet Corvette 6.7 15.1
1985 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.1
1986 Chevrolet Corvette 5.8 14.4
1986 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.5
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.6
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0 14.6
1990 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.3
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1991 Chevrolet Corvette L98 5.3 13.9
1991 Chevrolet Corvette Roadster 5.6 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.7 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.6 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.3 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.2 13.6
1994 Chevrolet Corvette LT1(auto) 5.5 14.1
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.2 13.7
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors’ 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 5.1 13.5
1999 Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop 4.8 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R 3.5 10.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
2002 Chevrolet Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo) 1.97 9.24
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. ‘02)
2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6 4.2 12.5 (chevrolet.com)
2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 3.5 11.5 (MT Oct ‘05)
2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3.7 11.8 (MT Oct ‘07 Vol. 59, NO. 10)

Now say what you want but the numbers speak for themselves. The 2008 Mustang GT500KR which is similar to the 2010 Mustang GT500 just slightly slower was tested and these are the number it put down. which was tested by FFM. Specifications[7]

Power: 540 hp (410 kW) (547 PS)
Torque: 510 ft·lbf (690 N·m).
6-speed manual transmission
3.73 differential ratio
18 x 9.5″ Alcoa wheels on Goodyear F1 tires (front: P255/45ZR18 rear: 285/40/ZR18)
Tuned suspension by Shelby and Ford Racing
3,800 lb (1,700 kg) curb weight
Top Speed: 195mph (315km/h)
[edit]Performance[7]
0-60 mph (0–97 km/h): 3.9-4.3
1/4 mile: 11.92s @ 120 mph (11.58 @ 122 mph (196 km/h) on drag radials)

So there you have it even the 2008 would have not only OWNED the PURESEST AMERICAN SPORTS CAR the DODGE VIPER at the age old time of 1992 but the Corvette was even close to the Viper. It would have made quick work of either car! So who is the Sports car and who is the Muscle car. See my Point and to Further Illustrated the just the Current Mustang alone OWNS ALL OF these Corvettes their is not one legitimate CORVETTE on the List that can go Toe to toe with the 2010 FORD MUSTANG GT500! The Mustang essentially WINS with No Contest in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times vs any Corvette you pick.

Bankruptcy- Your not comparing Apples to Apples. Shelby is an “AFTER MARKET MANUFACTURE” Corvettes go straight from the factory to the dealership. Unlike The GT500 which rolls of the line and stops by Carol’s shop. But if the VETTE’s stopped by the Lingenfelter, or Hennessey shop it would be a diffrent story!

Bankruptcy- Your not comparing Apples to Apples. Shelby is an “AFTER MARKET MANUFACTURE” Corvettes go straight from the factory to the dealership. Unlike The GT500 which rolls of the line and stops by Carol’s shop. But if the VETTE’s stopped by the Lingenfelter shop it would be a diffrent story!

@BADLS1GTO I’m going to correct you right there. The Ford Mustang GT500 is all done “IN- HOUSE” at FORD MOTOR COMPANY and at Ford’s Plant in Dearborn Michigan where Carroll Shelby worked with the SVT engineers and Ford with the Ford Mustang GT500 So yes are comparing Factory to Factory Stock Products.

Now if you want to compare the Aftermarket products now you can go over to Shelby’s facility @ Shelby American
6755 Speedway Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89115
and we can do likewise with Lingenfelter, and Hennessey shop for Aftermarket Corvettes.

So I’m so sorry you got that all wrong about Carol’s shop. But if you want the Mustang GT500 Shelby SuperSnake yes that is aftermarket product as that is rolled off Ford’s assembly line and taken to be reworked at Carroll’s Shop in Las Vegas , Nevada.

Bankruptcy2009,

See your peddling you crap in this thread now. What is it with you??? You still do not get it. If the GT500, any year, was a 3500 Lbs car with a 500 HP motor, AL or Iron, you would have a car in the 4.0 sec range 0-60 and a high 11 sec 1/4. But the GT500 is not that car, as I stated before it is a PIG, lose the weight, go IRS then come back and talk. There is a big difference between a sport coupe (GT500) and a sports car. A sports car has weight as their first priority. Handling as the second and HP third. Weight is first because if you can get it down to a sub 3500 lbs car, you don’t need 550HP to drive it and get the target numbers you are looking for. Handling is next because if you can get the power to the ground through weight savings and the right motor/HP combination the suspension will do what is it suppose to do.

The GT500 is a nice car and does what it is built to do, go fast in a straight line. Take that same car and place it on the track and all that HP is wasted because of it lack of a real, rear suspension. A car that’s 3200 lbs with a 300HP motor and a true IRS will lap the GT500 all day long. A real sports car is about complete balance, it’s fast, it handles great and it’s breaking is second to none. Everyone that say’s the GT500 is the best bang for the buck 550 HP car out there, may be true, but it lacks in just about every other category. A real sports car is not cheap and for 55K, I want more than a car with a 550HP motor and can go 0-60 in 4.4 sec.

PCW

Ok my bad. But your list stops at 2007. It is now 2010 that was 3 years ago. Ok the GT-500 and the Zr-1 our both produced in house. Last time I checked the 2010 Zr-1 was putting 638 down to the wheels. Over 100 more HP than the PONY. So it has over Hey who cares if its Carbon Fiber? Tell FORD to fallow Chevy’s Example. Insted of more power go with less weight. The Guy Talking about the S7 if you twin charge the Zr-1 insted of a supercharger. It could keep up if not dawg the S7.

@PCW well well you actually have the nerve to show up again after having your proven wrong, wrong, and wrong. ok. But I’ll do it again because you seem to be a glutton for punishment! Tell when I can stop stepping in your face til it hurts with pure facts and not guesstimations on your part.

Punishment #1 I guess all Corvettes 2007 on backward to 1958 were’nt very much a sports car afterall since every one of them is “OWNED” and beaten like a wayward stepchild by the current 2010 Mustang GT500 “Sports Car”. So please go on touting that a sports car weight as its first priority. And True it maybe for the most quintessental. However it does’nt produce a victory in the case of your many years of Corvettes.

And no sir the Mustang GT500 is quite composed on the track Mkay that’s a fact several professional drivers have already pointed that out.

No I guarantee as I mention to the Chevytard earlier that Ford can massage the Horsepower numbers higher as they did when the introduced the 2007 Mustang GT500 1st @ 450HP, then 475HP, and then when it hit production @ 500HP. This new 5.4 liter is superior in its Supercharger abilities to the lineage it shares with the Ford GT. That mean one thing. This engine is easily capable of 1,200 to 1,500HP with no sweat.
But more realistically to avoid a gas guzzler tax its possibe Ford could up the ante to 650 to 750 HP which NOW makes your Corvette ZR1 motor look kind of whimpy in comparison! And Ford may do just that depedning on the varibale as they did so in the past. Its a game Ford and GM have played for years. To not know that is to not know Detroit!

I think were looking at 0-60 times of 2.9 to 3.3 and 1/4 miles of 10.5 to 11.0 seconds is your Corvette ZR1 feeling a little uncomfortable GOOD! >:)

Lesson #2 Here are the fact read em and weep! None of these Corvettes touches the Ford Mustang GT500 and no the Lingenfelter DOES’NT COUNT SINCE IT IS STRICTLY AFTERMARKET ONLY as I correct the earlier poster.

2010 Mustang GT500
Power: 540 hp (410 kW) (547 PS)
Tuned suspension by Shelby and Ford Racing
3,800 lb (1,700 kg) curb weight
Top Speed: 195mph (315km/h)
[edit]Performance[7]
0-60 mph (0–97 km/h): 3.9-4.3
1/4 mile: 11.92s @ 120 mph (11.58 @ 122 mph (196 km/h) on drag radials)

1957 Chevrolet Corvette 6.6 14.2
1965 Chevrolet Corvette 6.2 14.9
1967 Chevrolet Corvette L71 5.6 13.8
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3 14.1
1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427ci 435hp 5.3 13.8 (C&D Sep ‘69)
1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1 14.3
1973 Corvette 350ci L82 6.7 15.1 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1973 Corvette 454ci 6.4 14.6 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6 16.4
1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1 16.5
1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8 16.6
1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3 15.7
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4 15.4
1982 Chevrolet Corvette 9.2 16.6
1984 Chevrolet Corvette 6.7 15.1
1985 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.1
1986 Chevrolet Corvette 5.8 14.4
1986 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.5
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.6
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0 14.6
1990 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.3
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1991 Chevrolet Corvette L98 5.3 13.9
1991 Chevrolet Corvette Roadster 5.6 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.7 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.6 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.3 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.2 13.6
1994 Chevrolet Corvette LT1(auto) 5.5 14.1
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.2 13.7
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors’ 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 5.1 13.5
1999 Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop 4.8 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R 3.5 10.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
2002 Chevrolet Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo) 1.97 9.24
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. ‘02)
2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6 4.2 12.5 (chevrolet.com)
2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 3.5 11.5 (MT Oct ‘05)
2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3.7 11.8 (MT Oct ‘07 Vol. 59, NO. 10)

“A ZR1 Vette dynoed at 505 horsepower”

Funny how GM can make over 500HP and not have to resort to forced induction.

That is the only way to make any power out of Ford’s boat anchors.

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As for 1/4 mile times, the 2010 GT500 is around 12.6…not that 11.9 pipe dream.

I looked up about SIX different quoted 1/4 mile times and averaged them together.

Congratulations Ford…you have built the world’s slowest 500+HP car. Wear that badge with honor!

Don’t be jealous Government Motor boys. Your owned by the government because you don’t build cars like FORD!!! No body buys them because they suck, all you people do is complain, just deal with it and admit that FORD makes wayyyy better cars. Anyways, this car car is badass, should I trade-in my 2004 Cobra?

@ The Realist – Funny how GM uses a 7 liter engine to make that power without forced induction. Do you even think before you post things? You are literally worthless.

Bankruptcy2009,

The statement below is as ridiculous as you are. Yet again, my stance is not about Corvette’s. But someone with a brain would come to the conclusion that every model year is going to improve over the next. Stating a 2010 GT500 can out perform early model year Vette’s, just go to show how stupid that statement is….

“Punishment #1 I guess all Corvettes 2007 on backward to 1958 were’nt very much a sports car afterall since every one of them is “OWNED” and beaten like a wayward stepchild by the current 2010 Mustang GT500 “Sports Car”. So please go on touting that a sports car weight as its first priority. And True it maybe for the most quintessental. However it does’nt produce a victory in the case of your many years of Corvettes.”

The below statement is compared to what?, 08 GT500KR, I didn’t read one review from anyone that thought that car could handle, it was a joke for 80+K. Of course the 2010 handled better, it had to, couldn’t get any worse….

“And no sir the Mustang GT500 is quite composed on the track Mkay that’s a fact several professional drivers have already pointed that out.”

Again, the below statement, Why do you continually babel about 1200-1500 HP, who cares, we are talking about stock cars and stock numbers. You always revert back to this banter when you have nothing new to provide.

“That mean one thing. This engine is easily capable of 1,200 to 1,500HP with no sweat.”

This statement sums up everything to show how out of touch you really are !! KEEP DREAMING

“I think were looking at 0-60 times of 2.9 to 3.3 and 1/4 miles of 10.5 to 11.0 seconds ”

Here is just a couple sample of the ass whopping the GT500 took by a lowly Grand Sport, Z06, just the facts.. OUCH, that must really hurt… 436 HP in the Vette, 540 HP in the GT500

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKM2-BK4H98

Another ass whopping by a Z06. 505 HP in the Vette, 540 HP in the KR. Yes, that HP is really working for you Bankruptcy2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPBP-9TUnQ

PCW

The Realist,

Funny how GM still exist.

BK2009,

I like how you post facts. The GM Fanboys have nothing.

Good Job!!!! You’re as reliable as Ford’s

READ WHAT U JUST TYPED!!!!!
Punishment #1 I guess all Corvettes 2007 on backward to 1958 were’nt very much a sports car afterall since every one of them is “OWNED” and beaten like a wayward stepchild by the current 2010 Mustang GT500 “Sports Car”.

REALLY NO DUHHHH!
AGAIN YOUR NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES!!!! YOUR COMPARING A 2010 GT500 MUSTANG TO ALL CORVETTES BETWEEN 2007-1957. YOUR NOT COMPARING A 2010 ZR-1 (CORVETTES TOP “FACTORY MODEL) TO A GT500 (FORDS TOP “FACTORY” CAR) YOUR COMPARING OLDER STYLE CORVETTES (2007-2005) WITH A LS3 TO A TOP OF THE LINE MUSTANG!!!!! WHY DIDN’T YOU POST THE NEWER STYLE VETTES WITH YOUR “STAT” LIST. NO DUH A FREAKING 2010 GT500 CAN BEAT ALL THE OLDER 2007-1956 CORVETTES. THATS LIKE TRYING TO COMPARE GOLD TO PLATINUM. BACK IN THE DAY CORVETTE WERE FAST FOR THEIR TIME AND, STILL GT RUSTANGS WE’RE GETTING SMOKED IN EVERY CLASS BY THE CORVETTE. THE ONLY ISSUE WAS THE “TERMINATOR” GM HAD A ROUGH 2 YEARS BUT FORD DECIDED TO AXE THE SVT PROGRAM. TYPICAL CORPORATE IDIOTS KILLING A GOOD THING.

BTW THE ZR-1 IS F/I WITH A 7.0 LITRE BLOCK WHICH HAS OVER 638 HP TO THE CRANK! LOOK IT UP!

7 litre to make that much horsepower. That is like 52 hp / per liter. The GT500 100 hp/ per liter..

Sad they have to us a bigger displacemnt to make a whimpy 638 hp

No wonder GM went bankrupt

no wonder? How wimpy is it to have all that horsepower and still get burned by lighter less powerful cars? now that would suck. GT500s are very cool but will get burned by any new vette- that’s right, any and let’s not even get started on the handling thing. And the vette gets better gas mileage and you don’t have to hear that terribly annoying and loud supercharger whine that is barely audible on the ZR1.

I mean really, talking down a ZR1 against of all things- a mustang? Get real. Zora’s racer might be a tad too expensive and that’s just about the only negative thing about it.

Compare the Vette to the Saleen S7 (Ford Powered) and the vette will get raped.

I’m comparing apples to apples.

A GM small block is better than ANY Ford boat anchor. It will be more reliable, more efficient, smaller in size, and cheaper to mod.

Ford V8s…just like their appliances are full of compromises.

And compairing the Corvette to the Mustang is stupid. One is a proper car that is worth the cost of admission, and the Mustang is a fat pig with an ancient rear suspension, cheap interior, ugly “feminin” exterior, and a gas guzzling boat anchor V8.

Well not really, a standard S7 starts at over 4x the cost of the ZR1 and a turbo S7 over 5x. In that case I might as well say a Veyron (VW powered) will murder your S7 (still ford powered).

ICUH8N. ANY BIG BLOCK V8 TWIN TURBO WOULD BE PUSHING OUT OVER 800 HP TO THE CRANK. PUT A TWIN TURBO ON THE LS9 ENGINE. IT WOULD HAVE OVER 1200 HORSEPOWER. AND THAT’S NOT APPLES TO APPLES. ONE HAS A SUPERCHARGER THE OTHER IS 2 TURBO’S THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE COMPARISON. YOU ARE DOING A NEON TO A SRT-4 COMPARISON. YES THEY ARE BOTH NEONS BUT HEY THE SRT-4 IS TURBO’D AND, THE REGULAR NEON IS JUST WELL A REGULAR NEON.

BUT HEY YOU TAKE THE SUPERCHARGER AND TURBO’S OFF, THE CHEVY’S LSX SERIES VETTES, GTO’S, AND CTS-V’S WOULD KILL ANY FORD MOTOR OUT THERE.

“BUT HEY YOU TAKE THE SUPERCHARGER AND TURBO’S OFF, THE CHEVY’S LSX SERIES VETTES, GTO’S, AND CTS-V’S WOULD KILL ANY FORD MOTOR OUT THERE”

BADLS1GTO,

And you know this because you’re an engineer. I don’t buy your mumbo jumbo for a minute.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night. I aint much into bench racing. I know you don’t own either of these cars. I however, own one.

I remeber the 4.6 N/A 2001 Cobra VS the 2002 SS 5.7 Camaro. The Cobra held it’s own with less cubic inches.

You’re post failed just like everything else you spew.

“Well not really, a standard S7 starts at over 4x the cost of the ZR1 and a turbo S7 over 5x. In that case I might as well say a Veyron (VW powered) will murder your S7 (still ford powered)”.

It was you’re idea to compare the Mustang to the Vette. Pretty dumb, isn’t it.

BADLS1GTO, 2010 ZR1 is not 7 litre!!! Do some research before you speak, idiot! Why are we comparing a 75k 2010 ZO6 7.0 liter/ 107k ZR1 6.2 to a badass 50k FORD SHELBY 5.4 Mustang?? Where is the piece of crap Camaro? or the Firechicken? Is this why the Mustang is being compared the the Vette? Come on Government Motors people, wake the ass up!!! Anyways, should i trade in my 2004 Cobra?

“Mustang is a fat pig with an ancient rear suspension, cheap interior, ugly “feminin” exterior, and a gas guzzling boat anchor V8″

Outsells any 2-door Car from GM. You’re ignorance is bliss.

Did the Cobra win???? NO… Hey it dont matter how many litres. What you put a LS3 or LS2 or LS7 against the 5.0 the LS motors still win. I like your screen name. With a name like that you must own a Honda Civic with a Might VTEC and Glasspack.

“Anyways, should i trade in my 2004 Cobra?”

Keep it. I’m keeping mine and saving up for the new GT500.

“I like your screen name”

This is my vannity plate on my Cobra. This is what all you people do here is “HATE”.

Don’t hate appreciate!!!!!

Ok the Z-06 is a 7 litre. and the ZR1 is a 6.2. BTW The GT is in the same class as the Camaro! What more do you need? New SS Camaro has 411 HP and the 2010 GT is 412 HP don’t worry the GT won’t live long With the Z-28 Due next year. The ZR-1 and Z-06 is compared to the GT500 because their both the Top cars of GM and Ford.

ICUH8N- Great Im glad you love your over produced rustang! I choose the GTO for speed and because everyone dosent have one like the rustangs! How many Mustangs did u see today? I saw over 20. How many GTO’s? Only 1! The one In my driveway! Over production= bad resell value.

“Did the Cobra win???? NO”

Oh wow, a few tenths of second behind. Sad, yet the SS has a bigger motor compared to N/A small block 281ci.

I’ll be honest. 2002 SS Camaro is great at making speed, but the 2001 Cobra is better at handling it.

Don’t believe me, drive them both and stop bench racing.

Are you noticing we are comparing the 2001 Ford to a 2002 Chevy?

“I saw over 20″

Not Cobra’s. You’re post are failing just like everthing else you are doing. Quit while you’re ahead.

“How many GTO’s? Only 1! The one In my driveway! Over production= bad resell value”

You are very well ill informed. You need help.

You’re comparing base model Mustangs. Not Cobra’s.

The Mustang will live forever unlike you’re short lived GTO.

yes they didn’t make a 2002 Cobra! But the 2001 SS Camaro Had the same engine as the 2002! A LS1!!!

Ha Ha well guess what?? The GTO was only produced 3 years after the redesign! Lets see their was only 15,000-18,000 produced a year. So in a few years it will be a collectors car! Unlike the mustang that will still be declining in Value.

A) You guys are all morons.
B) The ZR1 is !SUPERCHARGED! -> to whatever idiot was braggin about Chevy Engines.
C) The ZR1 will continue to smoke the GT500, which is about right for 100K vs 50K car.
They really play in different leagues so the comparison is hardly relevant. The Corvette is a dedicated sports car, and the Mustang is an everyday muscle car.

The real comparison is Camaro vs Mustang, and in that battle, I bet the new 5.0 will beat the SS hands down. The 5.0 makes 83 hp/liter, the SS 69 hp/liter. The 5.0 also gets better gas mileage.

C&D’s rates the 2010 GT as the better all around car anyway.

Ford does not produce a car that competes directly with the Corvette, so comparisons are meaningless.

A) Again, you all sound like pre-pubescent fanboys.

“Ha Ha well guess what?? The GTO was only produced 3 years after the redesign! Lets see their was only 15,000-18,000 produced a year. So in a few years it will be a collectors car! Unlike the mustang that will still be declining in Value”

Wow, i’m talking to a 5th grader. Let’s do the comparo right now?

How many miles on your GTO?

40,000. Still books out at 13,500.

A GT Mustang with the same miles and acc. books out at 9,000.

“40,000. Still books out at 13,500″. What year is you’re Goat.

I took the liberty to find the value of a 2001 SVT Cobra with 50,000 miles. It booked out at $13,650.

We are talking Cobra VS you’re beloved 2004-2006 GTO and it still can hold value better than a 9 yr old Cobra.

“A) You guys are all morons.
B) The ZR1 is !SUPERCHARGED! -> to whatever idiot was braggin about Chevy Engines.
C) The ZR1 will continue to smoke the GT500, which is about right for 100K vs 50K car.
They really play in different leagues so the comparison is hardly relevant. The Corvette is a dedicated sports car, and the Mustang is an everyday muscle car.

The real comparison is Camaro vs Mustang, and in that battle, I bet the new 5.0 will beat the SS hands down. The 5.0 makes 83 hp/liter, the SS 69 hp/liter. The 5.0 also gets better gas mileage.

C&D’s rates the 2010 GT as the better all around car anyway.

Ford does not produce a car that competes directly with the Corvette, so comparisons are meaningless.

A) Again, you all sound like pre-pubescent fanboys”

I know this. I’m just here for $hits and giggles.

Again not Apples and Apples would be if the GTO was supercharged but it isn’t! GT’s and GTO’s are comparable! Cobra’s and GTO are not!

2001 Cobra is not supercharged

NO YOUR JUST AN IGNORANT FORD FANBOY THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN YOUR PLACE BY A MAGGIE CHARGED 06 GTO. THEN WHILE YOUR STILL WONDERING WTF JUST HAPPENED AT THE LIGHT. THE GTO WOULD ALL READY HAVE YOU IN HIS REAR VIEW MIRROR.

You’re last comment shows you are immature. I know it is tough for you to swallow. Face it, a 9 yr old Non-Supercharged Cobra has a better resale value than you’re 2004-2006 GTO.

I’m still laughing at you. Time to open a bottle of Fat Tire.

Duh i never said it was!!!! But a 2004 GTO would put a 01′ Cobra in it place quick! If it was an 05-06 GTO the 01′ Cobra would be in the GTO’s rear view mirror quicker!

“But a 2004 GTO would put a 01′ Cobra in it place quick! If it was an 05-06 GTO the 01′ Cobra would be in the GTO’s rear view mirror quicker”

But not an 04 Cobra or 05-06 GT500. You fail again. This beer taste better and better after owning you’re a$$

ITS TRUE. Heres your proof! It was the GTO by a car and a half at the beginning. Then The Cobra caught up but didn’t beat the GTO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLXHW_ya2cU

THE COBRA IS SUPERCHARGED FROM THE FACTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE GTO ISN’T!!!!
NO DUH THE FREAKING COBRA WOULD WIN!!!! IT HAS F/I THATS FREAKING RACING 101.
SO TAKE OFF THE SUPERCHARGER AND THE GTO WOULD SMOKE IT JUST LIKE A GT PONY.

We are talking stock for stock from the factory. You’re such a contradiction. You must be a girl.

@The Realist you are really dumb. But figures you chevy boys have nothing better to do than to come over to a Ford post. I have a job to go to everyday and pays well and I will get my Corvette owning Mustang GT500 someday . Do you even have a job! But while your chevy saleman are sitting on your dealership lots Ford sales people are selling their inventory.
@ Realist . Their is nothing worse than the old adage of no replacement for displacement. The Size of that LS9 motor is a True definition of a Lead Weight Boat anchor is their ever was one at almost 400 Cubic inches vs a 330 Cu in Ford Engine that puts out 100 Horsepower per liter so I guess the Ford is the Stronger engine from what your telling me! Kind of nailed yourself did’nt you!

@ BADLS1GTO Yeah I think ICUH8N said it right. GTO came out but when it their was already the answer for it from Ford Motor. Got Love those 03/04 Mustang Cobras. But heck where is Pontiac now RIP.

Bankruptcy2009,,

Com’on, nothing? Did you watch this video??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKM2-BK4H98

This is a Grand Sport that only has 436 HP only 6 more HP than a standard Corvette at 430HP. No turbo, no supercharger, just a plan V8, how could that be???? Could it be the weight difference?? Corvette, 3383 Lbs, GT500, 3897 Lbs, difference is 514 Lbs. Could it be a solid axle?? GT500 was 3.1 seconds slower than the Vette around the 2mile track.

Skid Pad for the GT500 .91g’s, Vette, 1.02G’s
GT500 Braking from 70-0 is 165 ft, Vette 147 ft
GT500 top speed is 161 MPH, Vette 182
GT500 0-60 4.6 sec, Vette 4.1 sec

Lost in every single category even with the GT500 having104 more HP and a supercharger. WOW , I can understand that you wouldn’t want to discuss this, truth hurts….

PCW

Wow. I shudder to imagine a world with old ladies driving 1,500 HP Mustangs. SCARY!

No you just cant read!!! Hello the:
2001 cobra is straight motor no blower! 2004 GTO owns.
2004 Cobra is supercharged and the GTO isnt. Cobra Owns.
2004 Cobra is supercharged and the GTO is Magnacharged. GTO owns.

Their is 2 classes: F/I, and Straight Motor
F/I class
2010 Zr-1 vs 2010 GT500 Zr-1 owns by 100 more HP
Straight Motor
2009 Camaro vs 2009 GT Mustang Camaro Owns
2010 Mustang vs 2010 Camaro Mustang by half a car
2012 Z-28 vs 2010 Mustang Z-28 owns with 556 HP Ohhhhh without a blower!

Bankruptcy2009,

Did you watch this video??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPBP-9TUnQ

Gets even worse with the Z06 Plain V8, 505HP, to the 540 supercharged KR

Skid Pad for the GT500 .92g’s, Vette, .97G’s OUCH !!!
GT500 Braking from 60-0 is 115 ft, Vette 108 ft OUCH !!!!
GT500 0-60 4.9 sec, Vette 3.6 sec OUCH !!!!
GT500 1/4 mile 12.8, Vette 11.7 OUCH !!!

You should really watch the video, it talks about the GT500 brake fade, poor handling due to the solid axle, poor track presents, and excessive weight etc….

Again, lost in every category even with the GT500 having 35 more HP and a supercharger. WOW. Again, don’t worry about discussing this, I’m sure you still think the ZR1 will get it’s ass whopped. by the GT500. Educate yourself before you open your month !!! If you like, I can find more video’s and articles to show you. Just let me know.

PCW

PCW all this knowledge bankruptcy was just hit with really shut him up. lol.

BADLS1GTO,

The funny thing is I really like the GT500, In fact I had a deposit on a 2011, but decided to go a different direction and order a 2011car. I’m really not a Corvette guy, their OK, I just don’t like when people just try to say cars are so much more than they really are. Time after time it is the same story about the GT500, weight, poor handling, solid axle. Some people will never learn.

PCW

Bunch of friggin’ children, as usual, posting their drivel.

It’s a great car. These are great times for car enthusiasts. Bad times if you’re looking for a job.

Best Mustang EVER! I think we can all agree on that.

IRS would be nice, but I think 95% of the people on LLN has never driven a Shelby GT500 so they wouldn’t know if it rides rougher than say…a Camaro or BMW M3. It may ride just as nice.

teahead,

No question the best Mustang to date and you are right, if you have never driven a Mustang or a car with IRS, pretty hard not to these days, you might not know what you are missing. I understand Ford’s problem, the GT500 is already, with the options I would get, at the 55-56K price range. Adding IRS would have to increase that even more, maybe another 2k. Approaching that 60K mark would price the car out of a lot of peoples reach. So it’s a fine line to walk. The 100 + lbs that was lost to the AL block will help with the front end, but nothing is going to help with the solid axle. Ford will have to address at some point if they are to be taken seriously as a sports car, not just a sport coupe.

PCW

Its funny PCW I NOT ONLY Showed you that the vast Majority of Corvettes ever made are “OWNED” by the Mustang GT500, but also you can’t even get technical performance #’s right.

The Mustang does 0-60 in 3.9 sec and the 1/4 mile in 11.5 Sec both faster than your Grand Pile O’ Junk Corvette. So there you are sir. Including the Z06 are all Owned by Mustang. So You lost again!

The Funny thing is the 2010 Taurus SHO could embarrass a Corvette 1994 or Older than is terrible lol
That is funny a Sedan beating a Psuedo Sports car like the Corvette. hey if it was a real sports car would it have one, and if it is how sad is that!

Bankruptcy2009,

You are an embarrassment to any GT500 fan. Every time you open your month and talk about that one lonely article where they claim those laughable times, when not one other magazine, video or online source can replicate. You hold on to that article, you probably sleep with it under your pillow, Let’s wait for all the reviews to start coming in and see what the times really are. I’m pretty sure nothing would shut your month, If you were intelligent, I would say “stupid is as stupid does” but you don’t qualify.

PCW

BADLS1GTO!! Stock vs Stock. You loser.

2004 GOAT:
5.7-liter LS1 350 hp @ 5200 rpm and 365(lb-ft) @ 4000 RPM
0 to 60 mph in 5.3
1/4 mile 13.62 seconds @ 104.78 mph

2001 COBRA:
4.6L 320 hp @ 6000 RPM 317 (lb-ft) @ 4750 RPM
0 to 60 mph 5.4
1/4 mile 13.79 seconds @ 103.34

5.7 vs. a tiny little 4.6. -It’s a shame!! Tiny litte 4.6 lost by just a hair. No wonder Pontiac is gone,their piece of crap!!

2006 GOAT: 6M
6.0L LSjunk 400 hp @ 5200 RPM 400 @ 4000 RPM
0-60 mph 4.7 sec
1/4 mile 13.1 @ 108mph

2003 COBRA:
4.6L 390 hp @ at 6,000 rpm and 390 (lb-ft) @ 3,500 rpm
0-60 mph 4.8 sec.
1/4 mile 12.7 sec.@ 109 mph.

6.0 LSjunk vs. tiny little 4.6 supercharged- it’s still a shame, way bigger motor and still can’t keep up. I’d be embarassed to drive a GOAT. No wonder they don’t make them no more. Just hold your head up high- swallow your pride, and admit that FORD will always be better!! Thats why there is no more PONTIAC, nobody buys them. Anyways, you should trade in your car for a FORD,you will be much happier!!

Ok the Cobra Has FORCED INDUCTION and 4.6 L the GTO has a Motor no FORCE INDUCTION. WHY DONT YOU LOOK AT THE SPECS FOR THE Vauxhall Monaro! A LS2 THAT HAS FORCED INDUCTION AND OVER 500HP AT THE CRANK. YEAH SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU AT F/I TO A LS BLOCK??? IT BLOWS FORD OUT THE WATER!!!!!

WHY WOULD I WANT A MUSTANG???? ITS SLOW, BAD HANDLING, CRAPPY LOOKING INTERIOR. HAVE YOU SEEN A 04-06 GTO INTERIOR ITS AMAZING!!! EVERYONE HAS A MUSTANG!!!! I SEE AT LEAST 30 OF THEM A DAY.

OH MY GOD THERE ARE SO MANY IDIOTS ON THIS THREAD

A4 +1.

04 Cobra vs 06 GTO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFLn_nnVyyc

“WHY WOULD I WANT A MUSTANG???? ITS SLOW, BAD HANDLING, CRAPPY LOOKING INTERIOR. HAVE YOU SEEN A 04-06 GTO INTERIOR ITS AMAZING!!! EVERYONE HAS A MUSTANG!!!! I

That slow, bad, handling car owns you’re GTO.

” SEE AT LEAST 30 OF THEM A DAY”.

You’re level of education is astounding, not to mention you’re immaturity.

A4 – I third that thought.

Slow! Bad Handling! Crappy interior! You are exactly correct about the LSjunk GOAT. Monaro?! Only 500+ hp at the crank on a boosted big LSjunk? Can it pass the safety/emissions standards here in the U.S? I don’t think so. That’s what my tiny little 4.6 2004 COBRA puts to the ground with just a pulley change,CAI and exhaust!! and still pass CA emissions! Imagine if it was a 5.4 liter and boosted, does that ring a bell?

Everyone has a MUSTANG, you are exactly correct again!! Can you say that about your beloved GOAT?That’s why they don’t build them anymore,thats why there is no more PONTIAC!! Nobody likes them!! Like i said, just swallow your pride and trade in your car for a FORD, you will be much happier. Anyways, wanna buy my 2004 COBRA?

did you check out the black one with red stripes over at motortrend? that thing looks pretty sweet, even with the thin stripes…wow….

Wow what a beast!!

A4 – you are so correct. There are way too many idiots on this site. Know of any other sites to look at? Almost every article I just sit and shake my head at the narrow mindedness. Makes me think back to the day when the most commented idiot was NMOFGM. He was at least easy to ignore.

“OH MY GOD THERE ARE SO MANY IDIOTS ON THIS THREAD”

Blind Ford cheerleaders are not idiots. Mislead, ignorant yes…but not idiots.

“Outsells any 2-door Car from GM. You’re ignorance is bliss.”

Except the Camaro…

guys, just shut up about the GT500 vs. the vette, you’re NEVER going to convince Bankruptcy2009 that any car can outperform a ford, it’s completely useless. He will never budge. He’ll just keep comparing apples to oranges until you give up.

Bankruptcy,
If you want us to believe you that a gt500 is better handling, faster, and is more comfortable than some other completely irrelevant car, then post some links dude. Give us the info and we’ll believe you, and then you can get us all to buy fords and your manager will give you a raise and your boyfriend will kiss you and your dad will let you get a mustang for your 16th birthday…etc

Posting links is not that hard: go to the website where you get your faulty info, highlight the address, press
ctrl+C assuming you’re on a PC, go back to this page, write your stupid intro, and press ctrl+V, an address will pop up, and when you post the comment, we’ll be able to see why you’re so misled. Otherwise, you’re never going to convince anybody of anything — that goes for the rest of you too.

So… Did you guys settle your argument yet? Seems like, at about post #50, when I stopped reading, you were making real progress toward coming to a resolution.

“Bankruptcy,
If you want us to believe you that a gt500 is better handling, faster, and is more comfortable than some other completely irrelevant car, then post some links dude. Give us the info and we’ll believe you, and then you can get us all to buy fords and your manager will give you a raise and your boyfriend will kiss you and your dad will let you get a mustang for your 16th birthday…etc”.

reedfast,

You need help. You’re level of maturity has just hit rock bottom much like GM Stock.

BADLS1GTO HI54 was being nice when he told you the plain truth your just plain ignorant. That motor is still a liter and a half larger. If it can’t produce that impotent 10 HP more than an Engine 1.5 liter smaller than it’ then I guess it ain’t any good! Face it the 03′ Mustang Cobra still Whomps on a car 3 years newer than it!

Now PCW don’t go away cause I am heating up from long range. Your an apples for applies kind of guy right.
Now While the 03′ Ford Mustang Cobra “OWNS” the 06′ Pontiac GTO a junk muscle car that is three years newer than it. Now lets see what it does to the same year Corvette and what do you know their both all stock cars! how about that.
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. ‘02)
VS
2003 Mustang COBRA:
4.6L 390 hp @ at 6,000 rpm and 390 (lb-ft) @ 3,500 rpm
0-60 mph 4.8 sec.
1/4 mile 12.7 sec.@ 109 mph
Now your gonna love this power band width. It seems close from 0-60 but your Corvette Loses; then the Coup de grâce comes quickly as the Mustang Power band increases and the Corvette power diminishes as the Corvette is absolutely Crushed and Destroyed being left behind by almost a FULL Second!
Ewww you talk about hurting. Triple Ouch that’s gonna leave a Nasty Mark Ewww! Its like getting hit with a 2 by 4 rofl. Mustang the Clear True American Sports car Champion!

Oh you can gush all ya want even though are current Mustang Beats ALL CORVETTES Except for the last year or two. So yeah IGNOR the Fact the Current Mustang is a better built sports car all the way around than the chevy corvette. Its safer you can bring more of your girl friends along. oh that’s right you don’t have one do you but then again you could’nt fill up the passenger seat with one if your life depended on it could you! But keep acting as if the VAST Majority of Corvettes ever Built are COMPLETELY OWNED By the Current Mustang DOES’NT COUNT even though it DOES COUNT! So DID I STRIKE A NERVE GOOD. SO Get “UNCOMFORTABLE” PCW because the Mustang ain’t goin away brother. But if GM files for Bankruptcy again the Corvette might be going the way of the DODO like the GTO Has! Ford WINS AGAIN!

Guess not…

These GM salesman have nothing better to do ICUH8N. their not making any sales because all of their customers are over @ the local Ford dealership!

ajm, of course there are others, there is one in particular that is very good, but if i put their name on here my comment will be deleted and I could probably somehow lose my privileges on here. Wouldn’t want that! haha

Still shudder to think about the old women driving 1,500 HP Mustangs all over the place…

Read, 3 Corvette’s No GT500, and yes its 2008

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/08q4/the_10_quickest_cars_of_2008-feature

ICUH8N,
are you afraid of what BK’s gonna post a link to or something? I’m not the one who has been arguing pointlessly for the last 4 and a half hours. Is there — i shudder to think — no actual site that actually says the gt500 is better than a vette? I’m not a GM fanboy, i just don’t see the point in you and Bankruptcy clogging up the thread with your stupid retorts and “facts”. Prove me wrong, i just want to see a link – not some made up info. I told you how to post one…

A4 – feel free to send the link to my username at live ca

Bankruptcy2009,

Let just talk about 2010 GT500 Vs 2010 Corvette GS, you never want to talk about that ass whopping. Let’s talk about the 2010 GT500 times and quotes from leading magazines, not the rags you read.

Motor Tread
0-60 – 4.4
!/4 mile – 12.8

Quotes:
“If you’re not careful, the GT500’s live rear axle hops and bangs and thumps, spitting the car sideways as the tires struggle for grip”

“Though based on a platform that’s showing its age (translation: “live axle”

“2nd Place
Ford Shelby GT500
Still an eye-catcher, but archaic chassis and whiney motor weaken its bid for numero uno.”

Car & Driver
0-60 – 4.5
!/4 mile – 12.7

Quotes:

“If you’re a member of the SVT group, right about now you’re saying something like, “How am I gonna explain this to Mr. Mulally?” A two-word answer: live axle. If you’d pony up the dough for an independent rear suspension, Mr. Mulally, the Mustang would stand a better chance of running with the best.”

“Live axle limits handling responses, big forward weight bias, high fuel thirst.”

“The Verdict: Still the ultimate Mustang, still playing catch-up.”

Road & Track
0-60 – 4.4
!/4 mile – 12.6

Quotes:
“the GT500 ran from 0-60 mph in 4.4 seconds – a solid performance, but somewhat disappointing for Ford’s ultimate Mustang.”

Automobile
0-60 – 4.5
!/4 mile – 12.7

Quotes:

“The live rear axle located by three trailing and one lateral (Panhard rod) links lives on in this uber Mustang. Crossing truly evil corner bumps, the un-sprung axle’s momentum is a major handicap for the rudimentary suspension system.”

Look at that, almost all within 1-2 10th of a sec difference in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I look at a total of 7 different online magazines and they were all the same. Not one even close to the times of that rag you love to quote. Look at all those quotes about weight, handling and the axle. The new 2011 total weight savings is 120 lbs over the 2010. No where near your 350 to 400 lb weight savings you stated for the AL block alone. You know Ford could save another 120 lbs if they got rid of that boat anchor of an axle and went with IRS. Oh well I guess they just don’t want to listen to just about everyone that that one.

PCW

PCW, i hate to say it, but you’re never going to win, its useless. Bankruptcy and ICUH8N know that the corvette is faster, they’re just having fun making you angry and wasting your time. Its called a troll.

ajm send it to @live.ca or @live.com?

OMG YOU IGNORANT FOOL!!!!

HERE IS YEAR FOR YEAR COMPARISON FOR A TOP OF THE LINE MUSTANG VS. A TOP OF THE LINE CORVETTE FOR THAT YEAR. YOUR A FREAKING IDIOT YOUR COMPARING A GT500 TO 2007 THATS LIKE COMPARING YOUR GEO METRO TO A LAMBO. YES THEY BOTH HAVE FOUR WHEELS BUT THE FREAKING LAMBO WILL SMOKE YOU EVERYTIME.

Year Corvette 0-60 Quarter mile Mustang 0-60 Quarter Mile
1995 4.9 13.1 5.2 13.8
1996 4.7 13.3 5.4 14.0
1997 4.7 13.3
1998 5.1 13.5 5.4 14.0
1999 4.8 13.3 5.4 13.9
2000 4.8 13.3 5.5 14.1
2001 4.6 13.0 4.8 13.5
2002 4.1 12.5 6.3 14.8
DO YOU WANT TO SEE THE TWIN TURBO
LINGENFELTER NUMBERS FOR THE 2002
VETTE? TO BAD HERE IT IS.
2002 L 1.97 9.24
2003 4.9 13.4 4.5 12.9
2004 4.9 13.4 4.5 12.9
2005 4.2 12.5 5.1 13.5
2006 3.5 11.5 5.9 14.2
2007 3.7 11.8 5.9 14.2
2008 3.2 11.4 5.8 14.1
2009 3.3 11.2 5.8 14.1
2010 3.3 11.1 ???????????

SEE THE NUMBERS DONT LIE!!!! WHAT YEAR DID A FREAKING TOP OF THE LINE MUSTANG BEAT A FREAKING TOP OF THE LINE VETTE?? PLEASE TELL ME THAT ALL FORD OWNERS ARN’T AS CONCIDED OR AS INGORANT AS YOU!!!

04 Cobra vs 06 GTO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFLn_nnVyyc
WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO PROVE HERE??? THAT A CHEVY BIG BLOCK MOTOR HUNG WITH A FORCED INDUCTION FORD MOTOR???? CAUSE THATS WHAT IT DID… TAKE THE BLOWER OF THAT FORD AND ITS NOTHING BETTER THAN A BOAT ANCHOR! WOW YOU CONVINCED ME IT TAKES FORD F/I MOTORS TO BEAT A NON FORCE INDUCTED GM MOTOR. IF ONLY THAT GTO WOULD OF HAD A MAGGIE!!! IF IT WOULD OF HAD A MAGGIE THE GTO WOULD OF HAD IT BY ATLEAST 7 CARS.

Ha Ha Look at this!!! But a Supercharger on the GTO, Which makes a Apples to Apples Comparison! Cause their both F/I the GTO pulls like 4 cars. Ha Ha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84HeV44r1I&feature=PlayList&p=2B88C0C0932D36FF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=51

WOULD YOU SHUT THE HELL UP NOBODY CARES

WOW there are a lot of muscle car fans on this site.

ICUH8N I have known this GM TROLL Reedfast for quite some time. so don’t believe a word of his feigning to be none biased or not to be a GM fanboy because he is a GM Devotee as all cost to his own self worth and not to mention he has no shame or self respect , in other words he a complete “LIAR”!. He’s in bed with Bob Lutz. So tell us Reedfast how is he?
You brown noser you.
Get off this post Reedfast You don’t belong here just go back to your failing GM dealership like NFMOGM who has gone incognito instead as “The Realist” the Ultimate GM loser lol . so there you have it

Reed fast go up through the post you retard their are plenty of links and their ALL THE FACTS You Dummy!
LINGENFELTER to me and most is slapped together POS that isn’t worth anything. Its strictly aftermarket

PCW Screw you if I saw you I’d deck you! ok WTFRU to tell me what is legit and what isn’t your mind is about as advanced as a single cell amoeba, and you certainly don’t tell the truth.
BADLS1GTO you have got to be kidding me. In that video the 04 Cobra Mustang clearly OWNS the 06′ Pontiac GTO. Its not even close. Your pretty stupid!

ha ha did you not watch the full video?? The GTO misses a gear then in the second and third run the GTO smokes him by 4 cars.

Bankruptcy,
Is it a slow day at the dealership? Hey you would make more money if you get out of the sales office and get on the lot. Im not even a GM fanboy. I grew up around my Uncles DODGE dealership. I have owned Nissans, Jeeps, Chevys, Dodges, and Pontiacs. Yeah Far from a Fan boy.

A4 – @live.ca

BADLS1GTO you are so stupid you mention your not a GM fan boy and then go right ahead and admit to it in the fact with your owning Chevy’s and Pontiac. You must be a Hicks from the Stix kind of dude.

Troll Killer: dammit, do your job already!

Almost everyone else: if you don’t bow down and worship the Mustang and pretend it smokes Veyrons, you’re a GM fanboy. Shame on you!

BK and H8N: let’s see if you van hit 200 posts today. My MacPro is faster than any GT500 that was, is, and ever will be!

Bankruptcy,
I have never owned a GM product in my life. You want to see my cars list.

2004 audi RS6, I don’t know how I justified buying this, but with the mods i’ve put on it, it could do about 205 mph.
The 2002 audi S4 i’ve owned since new.
The 2004 A8 i got with 22k miles on it from my neighbor, poor chap didn’t know how to appreciate it.
My first car, a 1984 Mercedes 300D that i got used with about 57K miles on it. Today it has about 250k.

There you have it, do you see any reason tho call me a GM fanboy?
BTW, i wrote in the boyfriend part a couple comments up because you nag like my wife used to, so i assumed you were of the female species. Sorry if i was wrong, testosterone shots not doing it for you?
And i still haven’t seen a link, my instructions not clear enough?

Who cares if GM > Ford or vice versa?

Can we all just celebrate that the they’re making cars that are awesome?

Unlike Toyota or VW or Hyundai, Ford coming out with a 550hp Mustang is a good thing.

woops, forgot to add my baby.
I’m in the process of getting a 2009 audi RS6 avant into the country, you wouldn’t belive the kind of money you have to shell out on top of the purchase price, it also won’t be as fast beccause of all the emissions junk.:(
Guess i’ll just have to go to germany next summer if it’s not here by then.

I am a GM ‘fan boy’ I can tell you that the GT500 is a bad ass car. However, IMO the 2011 400hp GT interests more then the GT500. I think the 5.0 is going to make the Mustang competitive again with the Camaro in the real world where most people can’t afford a 50k+ Mustang. I think the GT will force the price of the Challenger and the Camaro down too. It may force the Challenger out of the game all together.

Reedfast the new Taurus SHO owns the 75K POS Audi A6…consider it the Taurus SHO’s “Bitch” lol. So your an Audi Snob eh. Audi’s are for you pussies like yourself! I’d put you and your Rs6 and A8 in your place real fast!

Reedfast you go get your 2009 audi RS6 and its 572 HP–oh too bad it needs to have a V-10 to produce that kind of Horsepower. And I will get my Mustang GT500 @ (yeah keep believing Ford will release it at this figure! 550HP V-8 and I’m am going to be stepping in your face multiple time with my Mustang and for half the price as your snobbish POS German Nazi mobile! ROFL and a 0-60 time of 4.4 does not even beat the 3.9 the current GT500 does that AWD Avante must be a real pig!

Oh my goodness people, why are we stiill comparing the MUSTANG to a VETTE!!! If this is the case, the MUSTANG has come a long way and FORD should be proud that their PONY is being compared to the VETTE. We should be comparing it to the CAMARO or the CHALLENGER or the GTO, but wait, I just realize we can’t compare the GTO because the don’t make them no more. Muscle car war just started all over again! This will be fun. GO FORD!!! Anyways, 2004 COBRA or 2011 GT500?

Bankruptcy2009,

It’s all truth and you know it. You can’t take it. Instead of your pissy little facts that you can’t backup from the POS rag that you read and worship. I have always provided the facts to back up what I state, you should try it, Oh wait, you can’t because it all in your pea sized brain. I’ve dealt with loud mouth, think they know everything idiots like you and one thing always come out when they are proven wrong, anger and violence. Congratulations, you prove me right yet again

Bankruptcy2009 said – PCW Screw you if I saw you I’d deck you!

PCW

Bankruptcy, I’ll admit i’m and audi snob, just to shut you up. But about the rs6, it’ll make 572 hp off of a 4.2 liter v10. Your little mustang will only make less than that off of a 5.4 liter engine. Audi wins, shut your mouth.
And btw, the audi will do 0-60 in about 4.2 seconds, audi is conservative in their estimates. One way it does beat your mustang though is in top speed. While it may be limited to 155, audi engineers have had it past 200 on the autobahn, so it will beat your mustang’s 195mph top speed.
And when did i say i had an A6? I don’t really want to start the SHO argument again, that was stale when it started two years ago.

Here is the top gear review of the RS6 in case you don’t believe me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTMqp3DvRQ
See, i posted a link, it wasn’t that hard.

You can bet i’ll take the limiter off the RS6 when it gets to the u.s.

Wow. Seems like a touch subject here today. Did some of you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

It seems the discussion is about sports cars vs muscle cars. They are both made for two different reasons, so it is hard to compare the two. Muscle cars should be compared to muscle cars and sports cars should be compared to sports cars. Why this is even an issue is beyond me. But go ahead boys, keep arguing. It’s entertainment for the rest of us.

^the thing is, that there are no muscle cars in the same class as the GT500, so people are comparing it to things that don’t compete with it. The highest hp rating on a camero is 411, if they made something like this with 550 hp, then it would be a different story.

First was the VETTE, now an AUDI?? 80k vs 50K? MUSTANG vs the WORLD, FORD must be doing something right because it is being compared to every make/class!! Idiots!!! This is entertaining!! Go FORD!!!

My kid can beat up your kid!!!

HI54 it is Bankruptcy2009 that starts and keeps these type of discussions going. Any car enthusiast knows the Corvette is in a different league than the one trick pony. Bankruptcy knows he is wrong but in normal troll fashion refuses to admit it even when given proof. A troll is always right regardless of how wrong they are, or in other words it’s a complete waste of time arguing with them. I actually wonder if the former Toyota / Honda troll 1115 decided to become the Ford troll aka Bankruptcy2009.

reedfast its CAMARO!

Bankruptcy2009
BADLS1GTO you are so stupid you mention your not a GM fan boy and then go right ahead and admit to it in the fact with your owning Chevy’s and Pontiac. You must be a Hicks from the Stix kind of dude.

HA HA yeah. Cause hicks can operate computers. and most hicks dont own 350 hp cars. They own lifted Trucks.
Yeah I’m a total Gm fanboy considering we have owned:
(3) 2002 AVALANCHES
(2) 2003 EXPEDITIONS
2007 TUNDRA
1997 WRANGLER
1999 EXPEDITION
2004 GTO
2004 RAM
2006 TITAN
WOW THE REASON WHY WE HAVE MORE CHEVYS IS BECAUSE THEIR RELIABLE! READ THE ARTICLE ON THE HOME PAGE CHEVY REACHING 100% ON ENGINE AND TRANSMISSIONS!

sorry for the error BADLS1GTO, do you have to write in all capitol letters? It makes you look dumb. Not helping the chevy side of the argument.

BTW I RATHER RIDE IN THE AVALANCHE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK CAUSE THE RIDE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT OF THE EXPEDITION.

“PCW, i hate to say it, but you’re never going to win, its useless. Bankruptcy and ICUH8N know that the corvette is faster, they’re just having fun making you angry and wasting your time. Its called a troll”.

I never did say the Vette was slower then GT500. You notice that I never resort to name calling. I was debating was BADLS1GTO.

You’re level maturity is an astonishment. I really don’t give a crap who is faster. I own a Cobra and I’m happy with it. I will never buy a Corvette, not because I can’t afford it, it just does not appeal to me and I think the Cobra has more bang for buck.

Bottom line, if you want to resort to name calling by all means. That there just shows how ignorant you are knowing you can’t keep a decent conversation with an Adult.

Don’t try to bring me down to you’re level of idiocracy.

BADLSGTO, any cars engine and trans can be reliable for 1 whole month!!! Duh!!!! Your bragging about a whole month of no problem?? Wow!! That just amazing. Anyways, this GT500 is hot!!! What do you think? I’m sure it’s engine and trans will be reliable for 1 whole month too.

“Yeah I’m a total Gm fanboy considering we have owned:
(3) 2002 AVALANCHES
(2) 2003 EXPEDITIONS
2007 TUNDRA
1997 WRANGLER
1999 EXPEDITION
2004 GTO
2004 RAM
2006 TITAN
WOW THE REASON WHY WE HAVE MORE CHEVYS IS BECAUSE THEIR RELIABLE! READ THE ARTICLE ON THE HOME PAGE CHEVY REACHING 100% ON ENGINE AND TRANSMISSIONS!”

Hence, “we have owned”

Ignorance is bliss!!!

“It makes you look dumb”.

I thought I was the only one who thought that.

@ beatusmongous

I’m trying lol. It took long enough to kill AMERICAN_#!.

@ Bankruptcy2009

“Reedfast the new Taurus SHO owns the 75K POS Audi A6…consider it the Taurus SHO’s “Bitch” lol. So your an Audi Snob eh. Audi’s are for you pussies like yourself! I’d put you and your Rs6 and A8 in your place real fast!”

One of the most hilarious comments ever. First of all, the A6 doesn’t start at 75K. That’s the S6. Secondly, the SHO doesn’t even compete against the A6. Ford fanboys just like to say it does because Lincoln doesn’t have jack s*** that can even get close to matching Acura, let alone the Germans. The Taurus the size of an S class. It doesn’t match the size of the A6 at all. The whole point of the SHO is to attract the Pontiac G8 crowd since that car no longer exists. The only Ford product that competes against Audi is the Lincoln MKX (against the Q5). Thirdly, how the hell does the A6 get raped by a Taurus? You boasting about a car whose main attribute is straightline perfomance, but it can’t beat a Hyundai Genesis 3.8 to 60. Since when is a 200+ inch long car a performance car? Does is have 500+ horsepower like a 760Li or an S63? No. The Taurus SHO has 365 horsepower, which is 65 more horses than an A6 3.0T but barely beats it to 60, and can’t outhandle it at all. And the A6 is better is almost every other way. And the SHO gets worse gas mileage (slightly). And last but not least, how the hell did the Taurus get brought up in all this? This thread was about the Shelby GT500, then (as anyone would predict) the Chevy fanboys turned it into a flamewar.

So please don’t bring this muscle car flamewar to ANY premium brands. I don’t want to hear your BS about how some cheap American “performance” car with a crappy ass interior is better than a BMW, Audi, Infiniti, etc. They don’t even compete dumbass. Muscle cars are just about performance. And the SHO isn’t a muscle car anyway.

If you’re gonna talk s*** about any foreign premium brand with your American cars, you better be boasting about the CTS, SRX, or ZR-1. Because otherwise either…

1) the cars don’t compete
2) the American car sucks too much to even be considered

…and that ends up making you look like a dumbass.

Anyway about the article, that’s insane how a 550 hp mustang gets 23 mpg highway.

“that’s insane how a 550 hp mustang gets 23 mpg highway”.

Isn’t

It

Dude one avalanche has 200,000 miles on the clock and not a lick of trouble.
the other had 156,000 still no trouble, then the last one we sold with 45,000.
How much is ford paying yall to be ignorant FANBOYS??? Are they doing that to save on adverting?

BADLS1GTO,

Keep doing what you’re doing. We are all laughing at you’re ignorance.

Avalanche- one of the ugliest trucks ever built next to Aztek, who is built by,all together now, PONTIAC.
FORD is not paying us anything, we’re just proud to own an American nameplate that is not owned by the government,unlike other domestic brands. Anyways, this GT500 is amazing!!! Go FORD!!!

ICUH8N, I’ll admit, you are the better behaved of the two ford trolls, but you still aren’t getting anywhere with BADLS1GTO, which has just led to both of you saying stupid, troll like things. I was just trying to shut him up so we could stop seeing all caps, but you are apparently so offended that i called you a troll, that you can’t see straight. You’re the one who has the maturity problem here, not me.
Go to the company water dispenser, get a cup, take a nice long drink, and come back when you can control your emotions a little better.

reedfast,

You’re a tool.

what happened to mister no name calling?

@ PCW just face it you lost and it was proven by Fact the Mustang GT500KR was tested by FastFordsMagazine and it achieved those times of 0-60 @ 3.9 and 11.9 in the Quarter mile and 11.5 with Drag Radials something you don’t particularly like Good! Go ahead and try and discredit them it won’t do you any good. I could stand here and say on the day Mustang was tested a Ford hater was put in charge of that project Mkay, but I won’t I think Motortrend is unbiased as it can be.
. It would serve no one right if FFM flat out lied, but they tested and those are the results they achieved. And I will put it to you another way it is possible maybe the testers on either sided fudged the data but unlikely.
. Listen Motor Trend got started up a while ago back and once again they are subject to trial and error when tests are done and that is a fact you don’t want to admit to. Sure I like Motor Trend too they named 2010 Ford Fusion Car of the Year because Why it is the Best MidSized Car in America! And All Around Technology and Quality Leader in the Midsized Car segment and the most technology to boot!
Reedfast the Rs6 0-60 @4.2 is still slower than the Mustang and beside who is going to quibble with 5 mph top end. still does’nt beat the current Mustang GT500 looks like the $126,000 Audi RS6 avant is just not worth its salt and despite its rear solid axle the Technology put within Mustang is definitely more advance. Does the Audi have Voice activated MySync Technology let me answer that for you. NO. lol Looks like this New 2011 Mustang GT500 will absolutely Smoke the Audi, so both you and your anti american Nazi car loving butt and your RS6 can go running for cover! Because why you can’t compete, and I’d be willing to bet I know precisely what industry you are probably working are for liking Audi’s so well. I am good at these things

@MHW keeping crying you typical GM cry baby. No your Corvette is not in a different leage only in your mind! Listen you GM guys have a shortest memory going. you have been owned by the Dodge Viper since its inception. The only year anyone saw Corvette rise to the challenge was year before last, and now with the Dodge Viper ACR here its still Dodge Viper that rules the roost still not the Corvette as America’s best Super Sports car. The Mustang is right there though as I have shown you! The Current Mustang GT500 OWNS ALL CORVETTE EXCEPT the last year or so. So I guess the saying goes as america’s only sports car has no weight whatsoever. Ford Mustang is a throughbred and the only true American Sportcar or pure breed and hey who would love it. It has 4 seats as oppose to the gay two seat vette. Heck even the Taurus SHO OWNS MOST CORVETTES EVER MADE! HOW SAD IS THAT. Should we call the TAURUS SHO a SPORTS CAR IT CERTAINLY iS A GREAT SPORTS SEDAN and in inclement weather leaves all pretenders to the thrown in the Dust including your Cadillac CTS-V too bad! Don’t GOT AWD you can’t hang with the 2010 FORD TAURUS SHO then now can you!

@ reedfast good you’ll still get beat by me limiter off and everything meet me in Montana and my Mustang GT500 will kick you and your Audi RS6 Royally on a stretch of road the cops don’t patrol too much. We’ll see what ya got and it won’t be enough lol and NO by the time Chevy moves the engine upscalein the Camaro the Mustang will outright OWN THE CORVETTE and So that bascially means its next version of its ZR1 as well mkay might as well hang it up!. So it will be totally pointless and being dominated by Ford not once but twice! GM will have 2 Psuedo Sports car that get their arse whooped by the Ford Mustang.

@ BADLS1GTO Funny the most current Consumer Reports puts GM especially its trucks still as Unreliable I wonder why the Deviation. ANd No sir that is fact you can’t dispute!

@ Troll Killer you’ve identified yourself as yet another Chevy and or GM fanboy loser. Pontiac is dead and the G8 when it was around could NOT EVEN hold the Dirty Jock strap of a Taurus SHO.
CTS-V junk, Lincolnn MKS is a far better Luxury car technologically speaking, the SRX its junk in comparison to the Lincoln MKT. The saying goes its The “Lincoln” of Luxury automobiles!
Exactly ICUHN its hard to believe but the MUSTANG GT500 is environmentally conscious too. I mean 15 MPG City and 23 HWY is pretty good considering the Corvette ZR1 suffers a Gas Guzzler Tax of $1700 gas guzzler tax with ONLY a 14 mpg in the city, and 20 on the highway rating. Sorry GM boys Ford wins Again!

Its funny ICUH8N and HI54 That all these GM Fanboys and or salesboys are occupying a Ford Post. They must have alot of space time on their hands probably because their not making any sales, and must be getting really desperate for a Sale @ GM or worried that Ford has taken over the automotive world.

Anyway glad you chevy boys could stop on by to see what will be kicking you and your customers asses on the street soon near you a Powerful Ford Motor Product. Chevy is the Disease and Ford is the Cure!

Bankruptcy, what happens when your mustang has to turn at 160 mph? The audi handles much better, so if i can’t beat you 0-60 because i have to pull 1/3 more weight, then i can always win in the bends, which there inevitably will be. And while my audi does not have Voice Sync, or whatever junk ford puts in the mustang to make more $, i’ still have 3 more seats, a huge trunk, and i can drive in the snow all i want. Your mustang isn’t going to do so well. I also won’t have my back broken by a solid rear axle.
BTW, i don’t work in the auto industry or peddle used cars like you do, I’m an architect.

And your last comment said that ford only exists for the purpose of Chevy. Just thought i’d point that out.

“Chevy is the Disease and Ford is the Cure!”

GM fanboys ARE worried/scared that FORD will take over the automotive world, that’s why their here. GM wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for the government. Nobody was buying their cars,GM fans weren’t even buying them, if all you GM fans supported your brand, GM wouldn’t be owned by the GOVERNMENT!!! FORD will always be better than GOVERNMENT MOTORS. Go FORD!!! Anyways, this GT500 is badass!!

Bankruptcy2009 your on crack and so are you H154, Its not about who supports what, since GM has always sold more cars then Ford. This is a great car. I dont know why everyone on here has to say one car is always THE BEST…..its all opinion. noones going to read anyones comments and think ” Oh if he says its the best it must be….. to hell with my own opinion” FK’N Losers

BADLS1GTO from now on dude lol im just going to say ditto to what you write, you deff said what i was thinkin

Reedfast when we hit the twisties I will lose you quick but it will happen way before then and I will only extend my lead to pulling out of sight! Ouch you must have a tender back then,, called Dr Smith syndrome lol
don’t worry my back will be fine in the Massaging , heated, air conditioned front seats, by the way does you engine use Plasma Transferred Wire Arc cylinder lining. to help to reduce weight while also reducing friction within the piston rings and cylinder bores by coating the inside of the cylinder bores with special nanoparticles I thought not but my Mustang does. So I guess your Audi RS6 avant can expect a shorter engine life do to the fact your racing against me and I will give your Audis engine no quarter! At least until it coughs and quits 500 miles behind me trying to catch up. Its futile don’t you see. You Germans.
And does your Audi A6 have EPAS electric power assist steering. I thought not too (but mine does) as you struggle or rather fight to maintain control over your Audis steering wheel in the the switch backs and try and avoid going off a cliff I’ll be one handing it in my Mustang as I fly around you whenever I want all whilst talking with my broker and lawyer in other hand on my Iphone lol. yeah too bad. I can multitask and you can’t it a shame really it is! Poor thing! My best friend graduated from the best Architecture school in the Country number #1 in his class and it sure is hell was’nt you lol. But then again your one of those Fringe Architects barely subsisting because you partied all night with the frat boys and finished dead last in not just his specialization but school. No I don’t compete in the rough high school drop out world of the used auto sales that PCW and Troll Killer inhabit to make a living. I work for the Government instead and I am going to raise your taxes ::) especially if you own foreign junk. Please let me know what building, bridges you design so I steer far away from them before they collapse. then again I don’t even think your an architect for a card board box that holds a refrigerator. So I guess that leaves me to tell you in the end you lose with your Audi vs my Ford Mustang.

Bankruptcy2009, dude how can this make you so angry and immature. Your not going to convince any of these guys to think what you want them too.

@ Bankruptcy2009

“you’ve identified yourself as yet another Chevy and or GM fanboy loser.”

How? If anything I defended Audi. I drive a Chevy, but I guarantee that my next car won’t be one. And I actually like the Mustang a lot better than the Camaro (the car that it competes with).

“CTS-V junk, Lincolnn MKS is a far better Luxury car technologically speaking, the SRX its junk in comparison to the Lincoln MKT.”

Here we go again. The cars don’t compete. The SRX competes with the MKX, GLK, Q5, etc., not the MKT. The CTS-V is junk? I don’t particularly like the car that much, but c’mon. You sound ridiculous! When has Lincoln beat BMW in a comparison test? Hell…when will Lincoln EVER beat BMW in a comparison test? Jesus will come down from Heaven before that happens. And the MKS isn’t far better than anything.

“I mean 15 MPG City and 23 HWY is pretty good considering the Corvette ZR1 suffers a Gas Guzzler Tax of $1700 gas guzzler tax with ONLY a 14 mpg in the city, and 20 on the highway rating. Sorry GM boys Ford wins Again!”

The ZR-1 is a 600+ hp 2 seater sports car that costs over 100K. THE CARS DO NOT COMPETE! THEY AREN’T IN THE SAME CLASS! You’re comparing apples with oranges. It’s like saying the X6 M competes with the 458 Italia because of their similar horsepower ratings.

“No I don’t compete in the rough high school drop out world of the used auto sales that PCW and Troll Killer inhabit to make a living.”

I’m a computer engineer you dumbass. I don’t know why you dumb yourself down. I used to think you were pretty intelligent. I know you’re smarter than this.

@ Troll Killer: You identified yourself as a Chevy and GM fanboy by not worshipping the Mustang and pretending it eats Veyrons for breakfast. Apparently, anyone who doesn’t do this is a “GM fanboy.” Trust me, I don’t understand the logic, either.

Oh, and one more thing, no, he is NOT smarter than this. Sorry to disappoint you, TK.

@ beatusmongous

WHEN DID I SAY I HAD AN A6!!!! SERIOUSLY!!!

Sounds vaguely reminiscent of someone…
I just can’t place it.

I want 200 posts by the morning or I’m quitting drinking! Either that or I want 200 quitting by the drinking posts or I’m morning!

… was that the phone? I know I heard something ringing.

OK, bankruptcy2009, you win, fords, are the best cars EVER and my POS audi can’t ever compete. Just help me make johnny quit drinking!

Its hard to be considered a Fanboy when i haven’t owned all GM products. And why are you dissing the AVALANCHE? It was different for its year! I bet you had to go pick up your trailer with your f-150 to carry a piece of furniture longer that 10 feet. But all i had to do was drop the midgate and was ready to go. Whats wrong with the Avalanche? The plastic? Just think of the plastic as a condom. It keeps it protected! Well i hope ur GT500 gets dinged by a bunch of grocery carts. Cause the AVY has plastic to protect the body and paint. Its the best of both worlds a SUV and Truck. Must of been a good Idea Honda copied it with the ridgeline. But its ok Bankruptcy, ICUH8N (i still think you have a VTEC with a name like that) Your both a loss cause. Getting both of you to drop your “Ford Fanboy attitude” is like asking for snow in Austrailla.

I have a feeling if Johnny quits drinking, the funny will stop. I can’t let that happen.

BK Broiler 09, you’re a GM fanboy just pretending to be a Ford fanboy just so you can make people hate Ford. I see right through your antics. You can’t prove anything because you don’t want to. It would show your true colors, and that would ruin your plan.

Hey there beatusmongous nice of you to troll on by as usual. Nothing has changed I see with you. Can I call you Big Man for short or maybe just your initials of B.M. or wait BM yeah that’s it. Sounds right to me. Anyway TK I disagree with you on the fact Mustang competes with the world of Sports cars. Its not relegated to just Muscle cars. 550HP is way past the old definition of Muscle Car and you say 600+. I do believe this 5.4 liter V-8 is up to the task of doing a 600+ HP # itself since it sits only 50HP away!

johnny, looks like you’re going to have to quit drinking.

Dammit, BK Lounge, you failed the challenge!

Sorry, Johnny, I tried.

Could Ford Overtake GM?
Jerry Flint, 02.11.10, 11:40 AM EST
Forbes Magazine dated March 01, 2010

Technically we still have over 4 hours since I’m on the west coast. C’mon kids… all we need are 8 more posts or my liver gets donated to science!

@anyclearer
another angry/loyal Government Motors fan that didn’t support the nameplate. So sad. By the way, no crack for me.
@BADLSGTO
Thats why their junk, you just said it ” Plastic “. You must be a salesman. Avalanche=Fugly!! Did you know that COBRAS come with plastic hubcaps to protect the rims from hitting curbs? Car will just bounce off with no damage to the car. Amazing!! Like i siad before, buy a FORD, you’ll be much happier.

GM wouldn’t be Governmnt Motors if you loyalist supported them!! This is entertaining. Keep it going. Go FORD!!! Anyways, this GT500 is badass!!!

H154 doesn’t have a crack? How do you poop?

Does anyone else find this humorous from BK’s quote “Fact the Mustang GT500KR was tested by FastFordsMagazine and it achieved those times of 0-60 @ 3.9 and 11.9 in the Quarter mile and 11.5 with Drag Radials”

Motor Trend does not to my knowledge use Drag Radial’s while testing cars. He is quoting numbers of a GT500KR that is not completely stock. They are using drag radials to get better grip. Anyone have any numbers for a Corvette with drag radials on it for comparison? Otherwise you are comparing a stock vette with a modified GT500KR. Still apples to oranges.

@beatusmongous
through your mouth!!! Read before you post.

So the **** that comes out of my mouth is yours? AWESOME! That opens up a whole new can of worms for me. I can spout off all sorts of stuff, and blame it on you!

I thought this article is about a badass GT500? It’s not about the crap that comes out of your mouth! Your level of maturity is that of a 1st grader. Sorry,my bad, 2nd grader? Read before you post!! Anyways, this GT500 is badass!! What do you think?

…199

… and 200. Break out the high test and the Bombay Sapphire! Woo-hoo…

Bankruptcy2009,

Bankruptcy2009 says – I work for the Government

That explains why this country is falling apart !!! Narrow minded government worker that wouldn’t know the truth if it slap you in the face, which it has many times. I feel so much better knowing you are a government worker !!!

Bankruptcy2009 says – I am going to raise your taxes, especially if you own foreign junk.

I bet your a socialist that would love nothing more than to close every other car manufacturer but FORD, right? Force people to only buy FORD, after all, you know whats best for them…..Get rid of that competition !!

PCW

H154, do you really want to know what I honestly think about this GT500?

It is very cool.

Looks-wise, I prefer the Challenger over either this or the Camaro, but this is still a looker. I would definitely give it a good, long look if I saw it going by.

Performance-wise, HELL YEAH! This thing is quite a beast, and it’s respectable.

Economy-wise, Shelby is practically down the street from my house. Any purchase of this actually affects my local economy. I simply cannot afford it, so I will not buy one. If I could afford it, I would have one of each in my garage: GT500, Challenger SRT8 and Camaro. Hey, this is MY dream. Leave it alone.

Ford-wise, I’m all for Ford. I like a lot of the new products they are coming out with, and I want them to be successful. I believe Ford is on a good path right now.

Vs. the ‘Vette, I don’t think so. They are not alike in any way. Comparing the two is something Top Gear would do, and we all know they find the strangest things to compare: Mustang vs. a horse, Mustang vs. Lotus, Veyron vs. a fighter jet, bicycle vs. boat, etc. I’m waiting for the day they compare a Mac Pro to a Veyron or something. As fun as those comparisons are, I don’t believe Ford’s intention with the Mustang is to beat the ZR1.

Wait…
…Sapphire, Johnny?

PCW why should’nt I Government Motors has already stripped the average Citizen 100 Billion dollars why should we throw money at a Bankrupt company??? See my point PC CrackPipe

beatusmongous, I agree with you 100%. Except about the CHALLENGER part, i’m all FORD. Did you say Vegas? Let’s go play with sluts,oops!! I meant slots and hopefully win the jackpot, after that we could buy all our dream cars. Anyways, this GT500 is badass!!

HI54 you know it brother this Mustang GT500 is BADASS!!! AND its even got Ferrari Quaking in their boots! >:)
But I’ll skip the Vegas part and go straight to Bali Ha’i in the South Pacific and having my Specially prepared Mustang GT500 Flown in with Girls in Thong Bikinis to wash and wax me and my car down! lol

BK Broiler is getting waxed? That can’t be good.

Oh did I mention BM I’ll be wearing my Thong Bikini Too ! Cause I’d rather be in my Mustang GT500 with my Hotties in our Thong Bikinis going down to the Beach to scuba then play gay slot machines in Vegas. Cause what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But what Happens in Bali goes on everywhere else Pure Sex!

Do you like knowing that the GT500 is the slowest 500+HP car on the planet right now.

What a goal to reach for.

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The whole Mustang lineup is woefully outdated…and not worth the raw materials to produce. Ford is the only manufacturer that could make a sporty/fun car into a heaping pile or boring crap.

Hmmmm, funny that a stock 2006 Corvette Z06 with drag radials will do the quarter mile in 10.856 seconds at 129.5 mph.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-8071.html

Girls in thongs washing and waxing a GT500 in Bali, i’m in. Girls in thongs washing and waxing you, i’m out!! Lol!!

Too much information, BK Lounge. Remember, just because it fits doesn’t mean it looks good.

Whoa Johnny, you said 200 posts BY morning, not in the morning. Put the Sapphire away, no more liquor for you!

Damn… I guess I’ll have to switch to American beer. Kidding of course… you guys know I love my Michelob!

Root Beer’s always good Johnny!

Henry Weinhard’s is my favorite.

HI54 still no guy likes to see another guy in a Thong Bikini because its still not clearly socially acceptable (Too bad-Society’s loss) and certainly not getting wash down either,but hey its fun and would rather be free doing my own thing and Crusiing All over Bali in my Mustang GT500 Convertibale going to the beach, doing Scuba diving in the ocean with a bunch of Polynesian Pearl Diving Hotties (that know how to hold their breath doing other things lol), (And going down more ways than you probably can imagine) with a Bunch Hot Looking woman that can appreciate a good looking guy in a THONG BIKINI than with a bunch of guys complaining about it instead lol. So go get your own secluded beach on bali like me with your own Mustang GT500 , and get with a Babe and then both of you slip into your Thong Bikinis in hot tub right next to the ocean too. Screw the world. Everyone who is decent looking should have one. But their has to be a law to restrict that NO FAT Girls or FAT GUYS Should wear Thong Bikinis in Public its Gross lol Until they lose the weight and are’nt sagging lol
Their should be a law. Lose the weight first then come out in public with a body so you won’t gross everyone out with your rolls poking through everywhere. And then and only then can you wear a Thong or G String in public and then fit comfortably in your Bikini and their very own Mustang Convertible. I don’t know about a Mustang GT500 that is reserved for me and HI54. So to be clear HI54, No I don’t want you to observe me Thong or girls washing me down. That is a private activity. I am not into commune orgies of the 60’s even though I am from the 60’s. GO Ford, Go America, and then Go to Bali in your Ford Mustang!

Reading these ignorant ford fanboys comments makes me feel better about not pulling those mustangs out of the snow banks last night! Cause they were probally as ignorant as Bankruptcy, Hi54, and Icuh8n. Ha Ha. CHEVY AVALANCHE for the Win! Stupid Ignorant ford fan boys that can’t drive For the Loss. HA HA. But I did pull out a RX-8 and Miata. HA HA.

BADLS1GTO your an ignorant fool, but thanks for letting us know your retard that drives a junky tow truck for a living. If it were a Ford F-350 then you would have a Great Tow Truck.
As it is your truck was probably struggling pulling out those Japanese makes. And the Mustang Drivers were’nt missing anything with you!

Just to let you know we also pulled a ford f-150 2 x 4 out the snow he must of been related to you cause he was also ignorant. Ha Ha Last time I checked the AVALANCHE was nice. Ha Ha so nice They made it into the Escalade ext. And the AVALANCHE IS BACK! I see more avalanche’s around town than F-150’s Maybe cause the F-150’s are in the shop cause of their crappy transmissions. (FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily) Yeah those mustang drives were missing something…. 350 bucks for the tow, and about 2 hours waiting on the truck. Ha ha. Some off them were still on the shoulder this morning. Ha ha last time I checked. The 2002 AVYS Out preformed the F-150 It has a .1 liter less and had had 25 more horsepower. and can tow 1,000 pounds more. Ha ha what were you saying in the previous post about power per liter??? That statement bit you in the Butt! But oh well cause its fun making fun of you and proving all of your statements wrong. Quit trying to fool everyone. Your real name is Joe. You work at a fast food restraunt, and drive a Ford Probe. But this time your not so cool online. Cause we found out your secret!

AVALANCHE 2002-2006
Horsepower 5.3 ENGINE 285 @ 5200 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 325 @ 4000 rpm
Towing 9,000

2002 F150
HorsePower 260 5.4 @ 4500
Torque 350 @ 2500
Towing 8,000

BTW stupid Ford has stakes in MAZDA!!! But for your middle school level of education Im gonna break it down for you. Ford owns a percentage of Mazda and ford actually produces some of their cars. Way to dis yourself. So you dont know FORD to well do you??? Don’t believe me GO GOOGLE IT!!!

GTO 3
Bankrupt 0

BADLS1GTO good you know how to read now only if you could read and keep current at the same time; then you’d probably know that Ford already sold off most of its remaining stake in Mazda. But at least Ford sold its 20% stake in Mazda and got 540 Miilion in Cash. While GM sold off the entire SAAB Car Company to Sypker for Only $74 Million dollars? How pathetic is that. Ford still has a 13% of Mazada remaing and will probably sell that off very soon. But glad to know you know how to read just do it daily! So you know what’s going On in the world not what happened yesterday or 6 months ago. Oh Yeah Avalanche looks like Junk with all that body cladding. The Ford has more Torque and that is where it counts when hauling anything. Not to worry they’ll have the Scorpion 6.7 Liter Diesel said to be more than 390 horsepower and 720 pounds-feet of torque and the new 6.2-liter V-8 will produce 411 hp and 434 ft.-lb. of torque.

And we know why GM wants a HD Truck Tug O’War to see if they need to retweak their crummy backward engineered truck engine to produce as much HP and Torque that the Ford Counterpart produces. Well Ford owns the HD and the light duty Pickup markets and will keep Chevy guessing how much they should come to the table with and how good of gasoline mileage they need plus everything else Ford does better!. And they don’t Kiss and Tell on the First Date like GM does or worse rofl.

Btw. I dont care what you think about the AVALANCHE. Cause I think the Avalanche looks alot better than crap Ford has produced. Ex: Flex. Wow I know your gonna say what about the AZTEC. I agree that is very ugly. But Jay Leno said its gonna be a collectable one day. I dont care its still fugly. Ford dosen’t own the HD truck market DODGE, does! Anything ford has in the truck classes (1/2 ton, 1 ton…) Dodge produces and out preforms ford in every catergory. Its 2010 not 1999. So put up your Backstreet boys and Nysnc CD’s, Yeah ford may have owned the the truck class for a couple of years but now Dodge owns it!!! The whole domestic 1500 series class got PWNED When the Titan and redesigned Tundra came out. Sorry your just another FORD fanboy that keeps trying to keep yourself occupied posting great messages about ford while your 2005 phoney pony is in the shop for engine problems, and your 2004 F-150 has a burnt up transmission from trying to pull your 9 foot john boat. But yet im a GM fanboy because I have owned a GTO and AVALANCHE. But yet I grew up around a Dodge dealership and keep posting things about other cars, 350z, Dodge trucks, Ridgeline… Yeah total fanboy.

BTW Bankruptcy What good is an engine with alot of Horsepower and Torque if you dont have a strong enough frame, and suspension componets to support the weight??? So The Avalanche may have less Torque but the suspension and frame must be stronger to support the weight if it can haul 9000 lbs. So if you put a Scorpion 6.7 litter with 390 horsepower and 720 pounds-feet of torque. If the Frame or Suspension can’t support it what good is it? Its like a GT500 without a supercharger, Yes its a GT500 But its slow, cause it dosen’t have a supercharger… And to the guy talking about Ferrari quaking in their boots ha ha thats funny. Yeah cause A heavy a** Ford will never beat any Ferrari. Their must be a Field of marijuana burning near both of your trailers…. or houses whatever you want to call them.

I’ve pushed trucks out of gravel beds with a Geo Prizm. It’s not the wand, it’s the magician.

I just read this entire thread i deserve a pat on the back ok. Right now i will show all my biasm.
1. I’m 17 turning 18 in march and i live in canada
2. I own a 2009 pontiac vibe
3. My favorite car my parents owned was the aztec i dont care how ugly it was outside it was cool it had heated leather seats, and the back became a tent.
4. I love the mustang and hate all other ford vehicles. (new f150 not bad still prefer dodge)
5. I love most imports and dodge rams
6. I like Cadillacs and corvettes no other GM’s and i hate GM
7. Parents still own a POS 2001 sierra (Transmission failing at 140,000km, leaking rear diff 160,000, Broken fuel gauge 160-165,000km, fuel pump also needs replacing idk when that happened.)
The 2011 GT500 should be given a 550 badge i think but w/e is a better car then the 2010 camaro ss i haven’t seen the 2011 version and would love a link. The corvette (base) as a muscle car might not be as good as the 2011 but is a bit more expensive and isn’t built as a muscle car. The ZR1 is better but if ford built a $100000 car it’d be really good to. My brother in laws brother owns a 2008 gt500 and after shaving down some excess metal and removing a few none essential, none vissable pieces brought it down to 3900lbs (with him in it.) this shows the gt500 is still a muslce car as people at home can still tune it. If someone buys a ZR1 and is willing to alter it with a metal cutter, you must have nerves of steel. also is that MPG imperial or US?

Bad there ain’t no chevy than can outhaul a Ford. And excuse me Ford F-Series Owns the HD Truck market and their is no buts about it. You definitely must be from Mars if you don’t know that. Ask anyone don’t take my word for it. Ford Truck Frames are the absolute Strongest!

Ah… the sound of knuckles draggin on the floor…

Also you can’t compare the avalanche to the ford F150 or Dodge 1500. Thats stupid you need to compare them to the Sierra 1500 or silverado. Thats a $14000 diffrence in price tag (according to ford and gm website) and even larger price difference in canada. (base models). For that price gap you can compare the Ford F350 which is still a cheaper vehicle then the Avalanche.

It is amazing how everyone forgets to see that Detroit’s 3 builds these cars to meet the demands of everyone’s descriminating taste. Yes, some will have more power in stock form than others. Some will look better asthectically than another. Some have better drag coeffecients than others but take a look at the whole picture. If Detroit made similar cars that had power, weight, drag coeffecients, braking, handling the same then what is the point of having 3 U.S. producers of muscle cars? This is because they know just like everyone who purchases an american or even a foreign sports car their are plenty of aftermarket manufacturers of parts that will make any car handle or perform better. Saying a Corvet is better than a challenger, or mustang is like saying apples are better than oranges or pears. It is all left up to the descriminating taste of who is buying the car. Oh yeah……my last point…..has anyone been willing to take the risk of destroying their car to dupilcate times listed in many magaizines? Most people that don’t have the money to replace/rebuild and engine or tranny won’t. I own a 99 cobra covertible, and a 05 F-150.

cupar- Bankrupt was saying that the F-150 was a better vechical than the Avalanche. So i did a quick comparison for him. The Avalanche Is a Sport Lux. Utility Truck Thats why it has a bigger price tag.

Also I was comparing the older style Avalanche which was cheaper than the new Avalanche.

Well GM didn’t take long to top it! http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0909_chevrolet_camaro_z28_is_go/index.html

Camaro Z-28 LSA block SUPERCHARGED 556 hp and 551 lbs of torque. Idependent supsension.
Ford GT500 400? 450hp? who knows? Solid axle.
Ford better get back to the drawing board.
Pony car wars are back! Hey Go get my Motley Crue CD out the car, and my blue jean jacket.

Anyway Chevy FTW!!!

By the time Camaro comes out the Ford will have 1,000 HP and it will still meet and or beat the Gaz Guzzler tax unlike Chevy. Who feel like its a merit of honor for wasting fuel! And emitting more green house gases

@BAD funny thing is 2011 is a year a way, and Ford always reserves the right to change Horsepower ratings if need be, but you know Its ashame that Chevy requires an entire liter more to get the same kind of power that Ford does with 1 liter less too bad. It will show up in poorer acceleration and performance due to a Heavy Block and Heavier Car in the cAmaro which spells you lost to the Mustang once again!

motley crue and jean jackets are more dodge territory go hemi lol. I don’t understand why displacement is such a bad thing it hurts you on the quarter mile but on the highway for top speed which is what i’d use more then 1/4 mile. bigger displacement is good for top speed right? (I might be way off on that.)

BADLS1- the new f-150 might be better then the old avalanche but then we get back into the whole comparing vehicles from diffrent years debate again. Also you i was comparing in terms of a purpose truck as unless you count the sport track ford doesn’t have a luxury truck.

Bankruptcy- If ford puts out a car with more then 600 horsepower i won’t buy it. it’s not practical and they’d do better to shave off weight instead of boost power. I’d still buy the ford over the dodge unless i got a dramatic deal in the price department because of the image and i hate GM.

Plus even if one is slightly better then the other 4 times out of 5 it’ll be driver error that picks the winner and they both are great performers and so are the charger and challenger so i’ll take the one with a nice look and nice price tag and to me thats the Ford.

BADLS1- So The gt500 3800lbs and the z28 is 4000 pounds who needs to shave weight? 200 lbs for 1 horsepower and 41 lbs of torque. I don’t really care about engine crank i wanna see both on a dyno for rwhp.

Well with a larger engine it does have a greater weight. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BANKRUPTCY? THATS OVER 100 HP MORE WITH FORDS CURRENT HP RATING. Do the math the Chevy has a greater HP per liter raiting.

556 hp / 6.2 = 89.67 HP/litre
450 hp / 5.4 = 83.33 HP/Litre

You apparently don’t read the fine print in your own Motortrend article, since its NOT a Naturally Aspirated 556 HP that your claiming your numbers are irrelevant!. Now lets take the Naturally aspirated 6.2 liter @426HP While the 5.4 does 412 HP in the GT variant. In either case Ford Wins in either case. So what were you saying??? You and GM LOST!

Ford Mustang GT 412 HP / 5.4 76.29 HP/Liter – Ford Wins ; by ALMOST 10 HP per LITER!
Chevy Camaro SS 426 HP / 6.2 = 68.70 HP/Liter

Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 550 HP / 101.85 HP/Liter – Ford Wins ; by ALMOST 20 HP per LITER!
Chevy Camaro Z-28 556 HP / 6.2 = 89.67 HP/Liter

For some reason, I want to do this:

http://roflrazzi.com/2010/02/16/celebrity-pictures-woody-harrelson-banjo-good/

sorry bankruptcy but thats mouch closer to 10 hp per liter in both not twenty in the second. also BADLS1 your assuming it’ll put out 450 hp but they’re saying closer to 100 horsepower more then that and even with the loss of power from crank to wheels i still think it’s gonna be high 490’s or more. (490+ rwhp)

ok 12 1/4 Horsepower more per liter than the Supercharge Chevy junk ok Cupar. That almost makes it out to 15 per liter but not quite still substantial. So BAD I guess that means the Chevy is Weaker lol!

Remember, just because it fits doesn’t mean it looks right:

http://poorlydressed.com/2010/01/29/fashion-fail-whale-tail-on-the-beach/

is? is it over? YAY +million for beatusmongous king of the troll killers.

Im am going to end this right now!! Should of did this earlier! Ok Yeah Theirs no replacement for displacement everyone knows that! Ok the Chevys engines are bigger and putting up bigger numbers! Yes I read the entire motortrend article thats why my post says.

Camaro Z-28 LSA block SUPERCHARGED 556 hp and 551 lbs of torque……

Yes when it has a supercharger that means its not naturally asperated. Thank you no duhh.
But anyway but for every Ford car chevy or dodge has an answer for it. It will be one car one year and another a different year. SS Camaros were last year. Mustangs this year (the new GT will be the sh&^) Then the GT500, and then the Z28 fallows the next year its just a freaking cycle. Maybe soon dodge will get on the action. But until a Stock GT500 and Z28 runs each other we wont know…. Right now were racing with numbers. which isn’t working. So unless this car outruns a Ferrari or Lambo. Im not going to be impressed. Im still waiting on the 2010 Camaro V Mustang. It should be interesting. But im tired of running numbers with you cause were getting absolutlly no where. This is like trying to climb a air ladder to the moon. Your not going anywhere.

OHH GOD IT STARTED AGAIN!!! WHY WHY GOD WHY????? that last post wasn’t nessecary as everyone already knew that, i don’t think anyone has anything intelligent left to say and some not gonna say who never had anything intelligent to say in the first place. However one ford fan sticks out in my mind. Go ford GT500 it’s a nice muscle car that nobody in canada will ever be able to drive in winter and it’s competition from camaro and corvette fans, didn’t hear much about dodge but w/e. we done? Bankruptcy if you post again i will lose faith in all fords of all kinds everywhere. I like the mustang don’t ruin it for me.

Cupar I must post again! And please don’t thank me, I WILL absolutely refuse a standing ovation from you for returning! @Bad um no the SS camaro never was a leader in anything, the Ford Mustang GT500 Owns any Camaro past present of future in the 0-60 sprint, salom, and the 1/4 mile run.! So that ends your argument . So while you sit there blowing hot air out that head of yours that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever about your second hand muscle car that the Mustang will ALWAYS leave in the DUST not to mention the Mustang WILL leap frog the Next generation Corvette to be sure; then your’s and GM’s argument for two muscle cars will be totally useless!
I like Dodge too and their more akin to Ford guys than chevy guys, because they are more like us. In the fact, they work hard with their product line and never seem to get any credit or respect for it (from GM) whatsoever, all whilst GM is busy slinging mud as usual at them saying their no good!

All while the Majority see the Good in Ford and the Good in Dodge, and that is why their product sells because they have a better product than GM does, and GM knows it. But Kay sera Sera GM will continue. But that scenario of we’re the biggest guy on the block (So ergo we afford ourselves the right to sling BS @ our competition) may change very soon!
Ford may indeed find itself in the Found On the Road to Domination position in terms of who sells the most outright nationally and even world wide.
and in more ways than just at the track. The 2012 Ford Focus stole the Detroit autoshow- a great new World Class leading car in its segment from Ford. that is not to mention the World car that is doing awesome right now as I speak all over the globe that is due here at the start of the third quarter of this year the 2011 Ford Fiesta a World Class World car in its “OWN” right a Great car.
This brings up this little article worth a good read because I have a funny feeling your going to be seeing alot more Fords on the road than you have ever before. I am definitely getting more Ford Stock and or options when appropriate, I think this GM will still do well but not as well as Ford is. Not if Ford lets up and I don’t see that happening! Oh yeah I think I should have said this from the start!
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100212/ford_gm_100214/20100214?s_name=Autos Your Gonna Love it Bad!. I don’t think GM will have much time to waste on their second hand Muscle car. Go America, Go World, Go Ford, and Go Mustang! The World’s Premiere Sports Car!

I’ll BE BACK!

OMG! You dont know when to Stop! Yes we all know GM went bankrupt and is recovering but other companys have went bankrupt and have recovered and now making a huge profit.

GT mustangs were not beating The new Camaros. The GT500 May have been but the GT’s were not. But GT500 weren’t beating Corvette for the exact year. Again Bankrupt your not comparing apples to apples your compairing a F/I car to a non F/I car. So the Camaro may have a bigger engine but the 500 has F/I which unbalances the playing field. When the new Camaro Z28 comes out next year you may compare the Camaro Z28 to the 500 but, until then SHUT UP! You want something to campare it to? Compare it to the ZR-1

@BADLS1GTO
You must be a salesman! Because you don’t know what you talking about. Why are you comparing the ZR-1 to the MUSTANG again?!!! You need to STFU!!

Hey Bad… you get one of the other Forced Induction or good old school like GM. No replacement for displacement.
But you want it more equal huh? then lets compare the New 412 HP Mustang GT to the Camaro SS @ 426.HP Mustang Wins hands down I rest my case. The Mustang nearly handed the Camaro its ass with only 315HP so there you go. What kind of point are you trying to prove? How badly the Camaro will Lose! and be a LOSER! Yes I do have a Mustang to compare to the Souped up Corvette ZR1 call Don Prudhomme Mustang Shelby GT500 edtiion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psLkFQJy1gA
i DON’T THINK YOUR PRECIOUS ZR1 WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT OUT OF 1ST BEFORE THIS MUSTANG BLOWS YOUR souped UP corvette’s door right off OR SUCK THEM RIGHT OFF DUE TO HUGE PRESSURE DROP ASIDE THE CARS CAUSED BY A QUICK DISPLACEMENT OF AIR!

Thats it i’m not buying a 2011 mustang v6 and sure aint buying the 2011 gt500. Gonna go get a lancer least i can drive that in winter.

Also the Don Prudhomme costs $112,000 canadian after buying a mustang GT so it’s more expensive the zr1.

and is that the 750HP or the 800+ i would love the 750 running on 91 octanne sick car.

Dammit! The perpetual circle-jerk continues…

beatusmongous- sorry i thought you had actually stopped it i guess i started it again

Let’s compare these 2 STOCK cars instead. Both are boosted,100k+, and RARE. Both tested by Edmunds Insideline.

2005 FORD GT ( former GT40 ):

3,500 pounds
5.4 liter supercharged
550 hp @ 6500 rpm ,
500 ft. lbs. @ 3750 rpm
0-60 @ 3.7 seconds
1/4 mile @11.8 seconds at 124.4 mph.

2009/2010 ZR1:

3,366-pounds
6.2 LS9 supercharged
638 hp @ 6,500 rpm
604 ft. lbs @ 3,800
0-60 @ 3.8 seconds
1/4 mile @11.5 seconds at 128.3 mph.

Bigger motor, more power, and much lighter than the GT, C’mon ZR1 you can do much better than that!
Go FORD!!!

Not your fault, Cupar. You couldn’t have known.

CUPAR I ORDER you to buy yourself a Ford Mustang you OWE it to yourself to Drive the Quality.not Junk.

Get yourself something reasonable the Ecoboost 4 Cylinder. Hey it may not sound right but heck 230HP twinturbo Charged Horses can’t be all wrong either! It will feel just right!

HI54 your comparing a 2005 ford to a 2010 GM your doing the same thing the ford guy did with 2008 gt500 to the 04 and older vettes. or w/e that arguement was. i want a mustang but i don’t have the money right now and i just got accepted into university so i’ll have to quit my full time job and work part time. Guess i’m stuck with my 2009 toyota (pontiac vibe).

@cupar
You are totally wrong dude! What’s wrong with that comparison? MUSTANG vs CAMARO= muscle car vs muscle car, and GT vs ZR1 = sports car vs sports car. Both cars have 2 seats,similar
power,weight,limited production and are top cars from each manufacturer. The only diffrence is the year. The ZR1 has the advantage over the GT because it’s the most current car. But look at the performance? It’s up to par with the ZR1, if not better, with less power!!! Hope you study hard in school. Go FORD!!

What’s wrong with your comparison?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAx2jtr3K8&NR=1

By your comparison, a Honda Odyssey is a better muscle car than a Charger.

You need to keep things on similar planes. Price, body style, chassis style, year, etc. Comparing new to old is reaching.

More circle jerk coming up…

it’s wrong cause we can’t go out take a second morgage and buy a GT anymore cause they’re not produced, i agree with mongous. Another thing wrong with comparing the EX GT500 to the NOW ZR1 is that this is a article on the now mustang gt500 which involves neither of those cars. It also isn’t a comparison article so nobody should have mention GM or Dodge or Mitsubishi or whoever. (But we all knew it would become a comparisson arguement in the end.)

@beatusmongous
Price? Body style? Chasis style? Performance? They are similar. OLDER car up to par with newer. Go FORD!
@cupar
huh? Your gonna go to college right? Please study as much as you can.

This is entertaining.

Price?

$139,995 vs. $106,880. Nope. Not similar. You could buy another car with the difference.

Body style? Sort of similar.

You never mentioned chassis style. NOT the same thing as body style. MR vs. FR? Nope. Not similar.

Year? ‘05 vs. ‘09. Nope. Not similar.

Performance? I never said anything about that. YOU brought that one into the picture. Sure, the straight line performance IS similar, but again, you’re bringing the Odyssey vs. ‘69 Charger analogy. Different beasts altogether.

Now, there are three MAJOR points missing in your performance comparison:

Skid pad:
ZR1 = 1.06g
Ford GT = .92g

Slalom:
ZR1 = 74.7 mph
Ford GT = 69.5 mph

Braking:
ZR1 = 96 ft. at 60 mph
Ford GT = 115 ft. at 60 mph

The Ford GT is an excellent machine. I praised Ford for building it. But they don’t build it anymore. Had they kept building it, I have no doubt that it would still spank the ZR1. But they don’t, and the spanking has ended. Sorry.

Oh, what about the Nürburgring lap time?
Ford GT = 7:40.6
ZR1 = 7:26.4

Older machine really isn’t keeping up with the newer one now, is it?

Wow, thats like WAY impressive. Wow.

Jess
http://www.privacy-tools.de.tc

You did some research, very good. Thats the most comparable car from FORD i could think of to compete with the VETTE. My point to this is don’t compare a MUSCLE car to a SPORTS car. This article is about a muscle car, and it is being compared to sedans to sports cars to exotics. This car is impressive.
Anyways, Go FORD!!

I am not sure why everybody is trying to compare the Mustang to the Vette. The Mustang is Pony car, the Vette is NOT. The Mustang is a Muscle Car, The Vette is Not, The Rumbling of the Mustang Engine is Way more Head turning than the Lame Vette. Finally, Look around.. Typical Vette driver is 65 years OLd man, Bold, Gray, Wear a baseball cap and requires Viagra… So take your 0-60 numbers and get some Viagra. As for cost, the mustang is a much better purchase when it comes to performance per dollar…….So Layoff the stang, Honestly, would you rather be in a vette or a GT500!!!??? I would say the GT500…

@Casper well said young man. @ beatusmongous Um you forgot about the Mustang GT500’s Nürburgring lap time of 5 minutes flat it blew away your Corvette ZR-1 and its current!

@casper
Agree with you all the way. You the man!! Go FORD!!

“My point to this is don’t compare a MUSCLE car to a SPORTS car.”

Agreed. Tell that to BK’09.

@ BK’09: Using cheat codes on Forza (or whatever the game is called) doesn’t officially count as lap times. To think that a stock GT500 could beat the Radical SR8, Gumpert Apollo, Viper ACR or Bugatti Veyron in the real world is ridiculous.

Yes i would like the link to what ever page you saw that said the GT500 sports car or mustang version got 5 minutes flat beating the highest time i could find of 6 minutes 48 seconds. lol wiki.

Also i’m pretty sure BK’09 was joking as he included the “Um” in his post before the fake stat.

A old man said to me why use 50 word when you can use a thousand. (Notice i didn’t say wise.)

casper, the corvette is driven exclusively by old men, but the mustang is driven exclusively by frat boys and 16 year old girls. I don’t know about you, but i’d rather fit into the corvette demographic, not some 10 year old’s fantasy.

Reedfast you must fit perfectly into the Corvette Demographical desciption Typical Vette driver is 65 years OLd man, Bold, Gray, Wear a baseball cap and requires Viagra. So I’d say go get your little blue pills to prevent you from getting a Mr. Softee! lol

Casper right on. Onnly a Square from Squaresville would be caught driving a corvette and speaking of a perfect square or the demographic take a look at reedfast he needs a load of viagra to keep it up. lol

reedfast you really need a load of viagra to keep mr Softee up don’t ya!

reedfast your forgot the demographic of old men that like to drive frat boys.

and 16 year old girls.

Way too funny reading all the comments from all of you regarding muscle cars and sports cars.
I would guess that most of these comments are from people who read loads of articles and watch way too much YouTube and have never owned these cars.
My first car back in 1981 was a 1970 Mustang Boss 302. My dream car in those days was always the Shelby. It was just way out of reach back then. I owned over 10 Muscle cars including the 1987 GNX. I think the GT 500 is a great deal for what it is; however, it is a heavy car and will not be able to complete against the lighter Vette. Sorry guys I love the car too, but I am only in my early 40’s and I am buying the ZR1 in the next couple of years. The Muscle and Sports cars of today and better than ever; what a great time we live in.

You did’nt have to tell us Verbang your Reedfast under a different screen name.Anyway We know your a GM lover Verbang its ok you can come out of the closet. Funny thing is in the 1960’s races when the Mustang hit the race circuit it literally dominated racing beating not just corvettes but true racing legends like Porsche, and Jaguar in many races. So say what you wish the Mustang to Any TRUE FORD Loyalist of which your not is in a class above the 2 seat piece O’Junk corvette. and yes Ford dominated LeMans even Ferrari. The Corvette could ONLY dream of doing the same. Mustang was a winner in competition, finishing first and second in class in the 1964 Tour de France international rally. Mustang America’s Only True Sports Car!

BK09- I read verbang’s little post and went cough cough bull sh** cough, but decided not to say anything. i didn’t know who they were but you can tell it was made up.

Hey Bankrupcy2009 and cupar,

What do you drive or have ever owned? Are you still driving that blue oval Ford Escort or have you upgraded to the V6 Mustang yet? Remember that ford is a truck company that makes cars and GM is a car company that makes trucks.
Back in the 60’s you are correct the blue oval was awesome. Was it not the Z06 winning all the races in this century? Guys,,, It is not the 60’s anymore, come back from the past guys. The GT500 and the true Shelby the new GT350 are great cars. You are still missing the point that they are a muscle car and yes they are the best muscle car out there today. The Corvette is a sports car, it’s too bad that nobody would buy the AC Cobra’s back in their day (most sat on the lots, because they were way too much money in their day). How are the sales of Ford’s only current sports car the GT? Oh right it is not around anymore… Sorry guys Ford is a truck company,,, Save your money and one day you can buy the F150 and talk about how much better it is over the 1500.

I have owned a 1969 mustang 428 cobra jet and a 1968 Mustang GT 390 Fastback both would eat your corvette for breakfast!

No actually I am an Import owner and my current car would eat you and your IMAGINARY Corvette ZR1 THAT YOU PROBABLY WILL NEVER OWN for breakfast too! CALLED NISSAN GT-R SKYLINE SPEC V.
i THINK THAT SHUT YOU UP!
AND Remember what? Who died and left you as the authority. You ain’t ****!
and get off this post! Not only was Ford a Car company 1st way ahead of the formation of GM and respectively Ford was also first in Trucks as well. So that throws your argument about cars right out the window.
Well you keep thinking like you do as we drive our Ford Mustang’s right past you and your piece of Junk Corvette whether you have your foot to the floor is immaterial the result will be the same Mustang WINS again!. So you can say hey their goes any Mustang Muscle Car that just Sucked the Doors right off my corvette as he passed me lol. But to us Ford Mustang Guys its the True American Sports Car and even more notably to most Americans and Worldwide Fans too.

Now verbang go pound some sand now!

Too funny
Enjoy your dream world. We are all sure you own a GT-R. sure you do… NOT!!!
Dream on little boy!!!
A Mustand is not a sports car… Enough said little boy,,, not get your head out of your A*%.

sorry bk09 i called you this poser in a different article ^ TK is calling you out in the new mustang camaro article on the front page. Also i own a porsche GT2 and a hummer H1 and a audi A8 i can say this over the internet cause you can’t prove me wrong. No i own a 2009 Pontiac vibe and I’ve only seen 2 camaro v6’s in winnipeg and 1 SS since they came out thats a long time and the 2 v6 might have been the same they were both yellow one was just dirtier. I see lots of 99-04 mustangs almost one a day and 05-10 maybe one every other day. why because people enjoy them more doesn’t hurt camaro didn’t exist for a number of those years. For corvettes i only see two which is sad cause i see a moving GT500 more often then i see a moving corvette. One corvette is always parked in a drive way on my commute and the other is my friends dad’s 71 show car. The mustang is a ****ty sports car but it’s the original and in the back straights it’s good. Don’t know last time you left your little apartment and gone to the back country but in Canada and America there’s 4 mile stretch’s of straight paved road with out the slightest bend.

Cupar you say some positive things some time and then other times you act like your not sure. Well listen these GM Guys BS and spew absolute lies all the time dont’ give in to them at all. their is no quarter here my friend

cupar, are you just BK’s little assistant or what. And by the way BK, i’m 43, and i have no trouble rising for my wife. You only wish you had one.

Um yeah but Reedfast we know you require that little blue pill to do so. Unless its the swedish pump you use instead with me its all Natural. Oh and at least my Wife looks proper in a Thong Bikini while yours is an embarrassment in a one piece. Its would like putting a whale in a bikini . In which case, I don’t know why anyone would get excited over that.

i require no pill, but your wife requires you to inflate her before you use her.

Reedfast when I Go for my annual Coastline tours I’ll just have to let the other Tourist know that the Whale seen over the port bow is not actually a whale but Reedfasts Wife instead. I mean a whale in bikini its not right! Tell your wife to cover up will you. Were tired of seeing her rolls. But hey man if you can get it up and not get crush on top of that. Man whew! Hey I’m all for it. But to me that is not my kind of Babe. or should I say Oxen. Tell your wife to go on a diet and may…and just maybe someday she can wear a single piece without too much comment. Until then I will be getting it on with my not so imaginary girl friend who bod would make your eye pop out of their respective sockets. yeah that all for me wrap up in Thong Bikinis whenever we go to Barbados, Puerto vallarta, or our personal favorite Cabo san lucas.

you’re hopeless, i’m done
VIVA LA GENERAL MORORS!!!

Hey all im saying is Fords quality sucks 80000 miles and you see alot of metal flakes in your tranny. and then you have a Avalanche with double the miles and no tranny problems what so ever. So you have to go buy a new Tahoe to fix the problem. But hey its ok their emblem says it all they have the problem circled on their emblems. That must be why Mustang guys are putting the chevy T-56 trannys in their cars.

Just remember the new 5.5 is comming in the next few years. Can you say Camaro back on top…. And with a smaller and lighter Camaro the GT will have no chance. People like you make me glad I drive a GM car cause I dont want to be associated with ignorant idiots like you.

come on man, clam down. You’re never going to change him.

Since we’re on the subject of Maisto model cars, I have a Ford GT90, a Dodge Viper GTS/R, a Mustang Mach III, a Jaguar XJ220, a Plymouth Prowler and a PT Cruiser.

BM I can believe the last one on your list, and the rest of it your full of BM! You got me. Camaro and for that matter Corvette is a Piece of **** @ Ford were not worried about either one!

I wouldn’t be worried about the Corvette or Camaro either cause your tranny in your GT500 will be shreaded!!! And you’ll be in the garage putting a T-56 in your so called GT500. Fords trannys suck! Remember it can only Be built Ford “Tough” with chevy stuff.

WOW Not only have i become dumber by reading Badls1gto’s comments but the dumb**** just bashed the gt500’s tranny over the corvette and camaro’s tranny WHEN THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME TRANSMISSION YOU IDIOT. The gt500 already has a t-56 moron. And by the way everyone stop going by dumb magazine times. For one most come from Motor trend(which is a HUGE chevy magazine) and two the 2010 gt500 has been ran in the high 11’s stock. The 2011 gt500 with the 125 lbs off the front end and bump in HP will run 11’s(with a REAL driver) and will run 11.5’s or better with some Drag radials.

so bankruptcy made a new account???
I think I read they wern’t putting the T-6060 in it they were putting another tranny in it. But anyway… Thats all you can eat is ls1’s??? Its ok I find a Ls2 and you can choke on it.

You must have a GT…. Its ok I put one to shame the other night… felt sorry for the guy he had it for sale the next day. Must of realized that he needed a real car and not a little pony…

http://www.maisto.com

For one I dont even know who the hell Bancruptcy is. I was seaching last night for any 2011 prediction’s on the 1/4 mile and this site came up and after reading some of the idiotic stuff I made an account. Ls1eater has been my SN on all the sites im on since you were prob in diapers little guy. And no GT here unless you add 500 to it. I own a 2007 gt500 and for someone to be bashing a gt500 who drives a gto is absurd. For one chevy makes an incredible car in the z06 and now the zr1 and ford did just as well with the 03/04 cobra and now the gt500. So grow up a little go back to World of Warcraft and stop making a fool out of yourself when you know nothing

BK would never admit that GM makes anything decent, so you’re obviously not him. Not that I questioned or anything…

I would never diss Gm. If all goes well with my career here in the next few months I’m very torn between the new 2011 gt500 or a 08-09 z06. One of these will be my next car, that is unless I make it big time and that case ill end up with a ZR1

Oh Bad your Wrong again. you mean the T-56 which is made and designed by Borg Warner 1st and is now succeded by and made by Transmisson Technology Corporation under the Tremec dubbed the TR-6060 Tranny that was originally used exclusively for the Dodge Viper. So right off the Bat your wrong and caught in a lie!. Hmmm you better start reading. So now GM does not own TTC Dummy. and for your info. the T-56 was used in the Mustang before your late to the party Camaro or G8. But now that your mentioned it I think Ford still has an ace up their sleeve in this department! watch!

ls1eater I hope your get your ZR1 because I will smoke you royally with the Mustang GT500. Please don’t disgrace the Ford again by mentioning inferior GM products in the same sentence as a Ford! Thank You for your Attention!

lol bankruptcy is badls1gto arguing with his self on here to sound cool. The 03/04 cobra had the t-56 and the gt500 upped the bar by going to the tr6060. So basically it went to a better transmission. Whats your point or the big deal?!?!? And lol do I ever love my gt500 but no chance in hell youll be playing with a zr1 anytime soon son.

No in your dreams ls1eater their is not that much distance between the current Mustang GT500’s

0-60 mph times of 3.9-4.3 seconds
1/4 mile times : 11.5 -11.92 sec @ 122/120 mph

And the Corvette’s ZR1’s times of 0-60 in 3.4 -3.6 and 1/4 times of 11.3 and 11.6 seconds
That is pretty damn close. Too close to call! That isn’t smoking anything. The huge margin of victory is only in your mind ls1eater and no where else! lol ok Kiddo!!! You got me. and while you tout the ZR1 Ford just swept victory from total sales this month at home in the US and Canada,,,,hey and maybe for the year!

In other news, McDonald’s continues to sell more burgers than In ‘n’ Out.

lol lol lol where and the hell are you getting your stats from and I love how you leave the trap speeds out of the ZR1. The 2011 doesnt have a time so you cant go off them although with a good driver I could see prob 11.7’s @ 123 the new ZR1 has been driven in the 10’s stock numerous occasions @ over 131 mph……The new Zr1 has also been run in the 9’s with a full exhaust tune and a pulley swap on drag radials @ over 144……..a good friend of mine has a 08 gt500 with a 3.4 whipple pushing out high 700hp and a lot of over **** done and cant trap 140 yet so dream on buddy while I love the gt500 and its extremely fast no way in hell to even compare the two speed wise. And lol who cares about sells does that make “your” car go any faster……NO!

Mustang Always > Corvette and Faster too! ls1eater go beater yourself you whimp!

Go beater yourself??? Have your own language I see. And great rebuttal when you were proven wrong….once again

ls1eater no sir you were proven wrong. The only place a corvette is by any measure alot great is in your own Mind. And to reiterate that point your a Legend in your own mind as well.

The Mustang GT500 has been driven in the 10’s too. And no sir the Corvette has definitely been worked on if it got into the 10’s Mkay them’s the facts! But as it stand I WIN!

There is nothing to disputer the known facts.
Mustang GT500’s
0-60 mph times of 3.9-4.3 seconds vs a Corvette’s ZR1’s times of 0-60 in 3.4 -3.6.

Your talking a margin of victory of only .3 to .5 of a second that is not alot its pretty minute in anyone’s eyes.

And once again not much difference in 1/4 mile times : 11.5 -11.92 sec and a corvette’s time of 11.3 and 11.6 seconds. Your talking .2 to .3 seconds margin of victory nothing to write mommy home about chevy boy lol
Mkay those are the fact. and the best part of it all. you can do it in the Mustang with 4 of your best friends. But knowing you ls1eater you don’t have anyone even to fill the other seat of the vette except maybe your right hand! lol Rosy Red Palm!

One last kick in the ass ls1eater see all the below Corvette’s Below their all “OWNED” by the Current Mustang GT500’s in other word their all the Mustang’s Bitch and not the other way around! , Them OWNS them all including that Monster 454 CU Monster they had back in the late sixites early seventies. And you still don’t get it their in not a huge margin of victory in . 3 or .5 seconds in 0-60 or a huge margin of victory after the 1/4 mile with only an average .2 or .3 seconds differential! Sorry charlie I WIN. And so does Ford and that’s the way it is! whether you LIKE IT OR NOT FORD -FOUND ON the ROAD to DOMINATION!

1965 Chevrolet Corvette 6.2 14.9
1967 Chevrolet Corvette L71 5.6 13.8
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3 14.1
1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427ci 435hp 5.3 13.8 (C&D Sep ‘69)
1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1 14.3
1973 Corvette 350ci L82 6.7 15.1 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1973 Corvette 454ci 6.4 14.6 (C&D Dec ‘72)
1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6 16.4
1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1 16.5
1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8 16.6
1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3 15.7
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4 15.4
1982 Chevrolet Corvette 9.2 16.6
1984 Chevrolet Corvette 6.7 15.1
1985 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.1
1986 Chevrolet Corvette 5.8 14.4
1986 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.5
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.6
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0 14.6
1990 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.3
1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.4 12.8
1991 Chevrolet Corvette L98 5.3 13.9
1991 Chevrolet Corvette Roadster 5.6 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.7 14.1
1992 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.6 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.3 13.9
1993 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 5.2 13.6
1994 Chevrolet Corvette LT1(auto) 5.5 14.1
1994 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.7 13.1
1995 Chevrolet Corvette LT1 5.2 13.7
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 4.9 13.1
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Collectors’ 4.9 13.3
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport 4.7 13.3
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 5.1 13.5
1999 Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop 4.8 13.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R 3.5 10.3
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.6 13.0
2001 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe 4.8 13.1
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.1 12.5
2002 Chevrolet Corvette (Lingenfelter 427 twin turbo) 1.97 9.24
2003 Chevrolet Corvette (50th Anniversary) Manual, 4.9 13.4 (R&T Aug. ‘02)
2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6 4.2 12.5 (chevrolet.com

Idiot! Thats what you are son. your saying that the zr1 stock was not ran into the 10’s????? Were not talking about 60’s and 70’s car here moron were talking about the NEW ZR1 and the NEW gt500. A man by the name of ranger drove the 07-08 zo6 and now the 09 ZR1 into the 10’s completely stock @ over 129 for the zo6 and over 131 for the ZR1. That is a fact. Another fact is you have your times allllllll messed up for the gt500. You said that the gt500 has gone 11.92 and 11.5’s upon more than one occasion what you do not know the 11.92 came from the gt500KR, and not a gt500 and the 11.5 run was with slicks, not stock radials! If we want to get into aftermarket tires the 07 z has ran 10.8’s @ 129 with drag radials, not slicks JUST drag radials and the zr1(by magazines who cant drive) is rated at 11.1 @ 131. I own a gt500 I know how fast they are. You my friend dont and your trying to compare the fastest time ever run by a gt500KR and compare it to an average time Zo6(not even a ZR1). most people stock and the average driver will run a gt500 around 12.5 @ 115 mph. While the average Zo6 driver will be 11.7 @ 127 and the average ZR1 driver will run 11.3 @ 131. ANd then you also show how you know nothing when it comes to times and drag racing when you take a unrealistic gt500kr time 11.5 and a average ZR1 time of 11.3 when two tenths @ over 115 mph is a few car lengths my friend, and then you want to argue the times when the 11.5 gt500KR time had slicks and your times you have for the Z06 are stock street radials.

lol oh and thats funny how you say ” you wouldn’t be able to fill your car” lol when chances are youve watched me on tv lol

That Corvette you speak of is “JUST” a Legend in your own mind and NO WHERE ELSE! Got me Daddio.
Yeah in case you did’nt know the current Mustang GT500 has the Same HP as the 2008 Mustang GT500KR and improved handling and Gearing Ratio for better Performance so that is where those numbers come from so actually we can “REDUCE” the those times FURTHER MEANING THE MARGIN of VICTORY IF “ANY” and perhaps the CORVETTE ZR1 LOSES to the New MIGHT MUSTANG GT500. Oh YEAH you GOT ME.

so instead of Quoting you 3.9 perhaps the Mustang GT500 is now doing it in 3.6 to 3.8 Sec which means the Corvette is basically dead even with the FORD MUSTANG and Quarter Mille instead of 11.5 or 11.9 flies by in 11.2 to 11.4 faster than the CORVETTE ZR1 . DO you get the Picture MUSTANG WILL ALWAYS BE GREATER THAN THE CORVETTE Mustang > CORVETTE .

Oh am I in presences of Royalty or something you are you like a Movie star or something? Oh Gosh like out there in TV land. Well well. I happen to be the most influential person in Hollywood right now and if i knew who your true identity was then you’d never act or work again on TV I promise you. You’d be black listed for life for your little childish rants on here! ya Folla! Good. then STFU!

lol Im done with you. Not only have you giving myself and everyone else on here a headache with your non-knowing of anything to do with cars, but you also say your the most influential person in hollywood….lol more like wallyworld go back to world of warcraft

The most influential person in Hollywood is Benjamin Franklin.

Why couldn’t we combine the COBRA power with the CAMARO aesthetics???

Geez, people are getting way too “stab yo mamma” in this thing!
@bankruptcy2009
would ya calm down? theirs passionate ( which i get) then theirs, well back to the stabbing i guess.
besides, your wrong, and everyone who read your posts knows it. why would you compar a brand new ’stang to a 50 year old vette? i dont compare cheetahs to koalas! if your gonna make a compariosn, do it right. Oh, and in terms of your “punishing” ( haha sounds dirty) PCW, WTH? punishing him for stating his opinion? punishing him for being more intelligible on the subject of these comments?
IIO, good on ya PCW

“reedfast

i require no pill, but your wife requires you to inflate her before you use her.”
HAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA its funny cos its true

It took my work computer like 10 minutes to open this thread up.

Mustang Rulz Camaro Droolz

I can’t believe this thread is still going… personal best, thanks guys!

holy crap

No Mustang will ever beat a ZR1 once a corner is thrown in! EVER!

And BK Broiler’s mother was a hamster.

Out of all these posts I am wondering why no one else has noticed that the guy in the video driving has the top down and there is snow on the ground! It has to be cold.

We were waiting for you to do it, iKingston.

yup, anything else we’re waiting for beatus?

bankruptcy im a ford fan too but good god you’re making us look bad. im starting to think you’re a little kid in middle school

We’re waiting for BK’s ship to come in, and for the men in white coats to take him away.

I wonder if Ford fixed the water leak issues when they redesigned this new model. If they didn’t, DO NOT buy a Mustang. If you do buy a Mustang do not drive or park it in the rain or this will happen sooner or later http://editpacific.com/mustang.html. It took my Mustang four years to start the water fall that causes all kinds of electrical problems. This is not my car in the video, my car’s leak isn’t that bad yet.

Water leak??? Ive owned an 89 mustang lx 93 mustang gt 03 and a 04 cobra and now a 07 gt500 and never had any electrical problems…..might have just been your unlucky day

Do some research. Type in Mustang water leaks on a search engine and you will find many Mustang owners complaining of water on the passenger side floor of their cars. It wasn’t my unlucky day, it was Ford doesn’t know hove to build a car. Driving in heavy rain at night and all the exterior lights go off is very unsafe. You own a 2007, you should keep an eye out for it. If you don’t drive your car in the heavy rain or leave it sitting in heavy rain you will never notice it.

I Drive mine everyday in Florida where it is always raining and floods when it does rain sometimes. Never had a problem.

I’m just warning you. Keep an eye and nose out for it. If you get in your car and it smells musty, your car probably has a leak. Like I stated before, my car didn’t start to leak until the fourth year of ownership and I bought the car brand new. I ordered the car from the factory. Ford knows about the issue but they do not want to bother. The water coming into my car is dripping onto the smart junction box. All it takes is a bit of moisture for that box to malfunction and the electrical system to go berserk.