Comments on: Ford, UAW reach tentative labor deal

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:29:10 +0000

or after 15 years of ownership. My ‘83 Cavalier stopped running when I wrecked it in ‘98. And I’ve never coddled a car.

Sold a tempo with 120K+ on it. First car i ever sold, and I’d already owned a Toyota and a Honda.

By: planet_drive

planet_drive — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:45:02 +0000

^Honestly he is the least aggresive driver I know and he takes very good care of all the cars he owns. He also has a 91 nissan pickup 4cyl with over 400k with original motor and 5 speed tranny. All the stuff that went wrong on his truck are things that you have no control over, such as the washer pump failing and premature wear of the O2 sensor. Its just bad quality. You have to understand that products coming from a company in crisis will suffer greatly in quality and durability due to desperate cost saving measures. Those cars you mentioned recieving high quality marks is very inacurate since it only takes into consideration the first 3 month of ownership. A true measure of quality is seen after 5 years of ownership.

By: mujician

mujician — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:59:00 +0000

plante drive, was it because the vehicle was faulty or probably because your boss is excessively hard on his pickup? You do have to account for these types of questions when assuming that a vehicle has poor build quality. By the way did you know that the MKZ, Mark LT, Mustang, Milan, Miata(MX-5), etc. all have the highest ranking for their segments in initial quality, and that the F150, Fusion, Grand Marquis, Towncar, Ranger, etc. are very close to the top in their segments?

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:57:54 +0000

planetdrive: please go away

By: planet_drive

planet_drive — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:29:16 +0000

I just can’t imagine anyone wanting to buy a Ford these days. My old boss just got a new F150 and after only 3 months the rear brakes seized, after that the washer fluid pump stopped working, than his check engine light came on after only 8000 miles (faulty o2 sensor). When the truck reached 15000, he needed new front bearings, and a new belt. This it the bad quality that makes Ford in such big trouble. And now with all these labor troubles, the future for Ford is very bleak.

By: autonutt

autonutt — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:10:06 +0000

At this point, Ford’s only hope is to privatize (buy back all their stock) and force the union out without facing stockholder repercussions. There is no way Ford can survive by reducing their production outsourcing to cheaper labor sources, one of the key points of this bad deal.

By: CA36GTP

CA36GTP — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:07:50 +0000

It must be awesome to be retired and still have a group of hacks fighting to give you more money you don’t deserve.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:55:35 +0000

I hope this new deal makes it easier for the company to fire the few workers who set the stereotypes y’all subscribe to.

By: Ian

Ian — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:55:51 +0000

“We face enormous challenges – and we also have enormous potential,”
couldn’t have said it better myself.

By: Jason

Jason — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:26:34 +0000

SR, American car companies are already dead, this is just the UAW picking at the remaining corpse like a pack of vultures.

By: SR

SR — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:35:37 +0000

I wish I had all the job protections of the UAW. WTF. What a bunch of overpaid, under-worked, under-skilled, worthless cry babies. The era of the union is over. The ****ing UAW is going to kill American car companies.

By: mujician

mujician — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:29:35 +0000

Sorry let me clarify. I didn’t mean the quality in the products that are produced (even though quality has gone up on vehicles being assembled in Mexico vs. US). But quality of the workforce it’s self. A large majority of these people working for unions are lazy and?or incompitant. Iknow none of them will admit it, and they get very offended when others tell them that. But it’s a fact. Hell in some ways I can’t blame them. If I was told that I was going to get payed for sure I would slack off too. But this hurts the companies they work for and their co-workers.

By: Scott Kempton

Scott Kempton — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:33:01 +0000

Mujician—how much actual knowledge do you have about quality statistics for Ford? I’m an enthusiast, so I look pretty closely at cars, and I honestly never see any glaring quality issues. If there are any issues with long-term durability, I suspect that’s something for the engineering departments to address—not the folks who assemble the cars and trucks.

By: sharpie

sharpie — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:26:36 +0000

What a farce!

By: mujician

mujician — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:09:33 +0000

Let’m go. To hell with the UAW. If they held their workforce accountable for the quality of their work I would feel the opposite. On top of the way they conduct their business going from one company to another and then back with a better deal for them but not the companies.