How many platforms the company that barely sells cars need? If Ford would sell 10,000 cars for each platform they could increase management compensation packages!!

Oh, man. iHustle’s gonna go Terminator on your ass, Xyunya! I feel bad for you.

Okay, robot bitch! Sick ‘em!

Escape redesign for 2012 rotfl. . . I has been the same truck since it was first launched like 10 years ago.
That Fiesta is gonna be late to market with the new Cobalt getting 140hp and 40 mpg. The next Fusion is not til 2013? As bad as Ford is LLN is off its Rocker with this stuff, Ford can’t be waiting that long to bring redesigns and new platforms.

More “wait and see”…

FORD really needs to get out of their holding pattern and act now or their RWD large car will be and outmoded as the Flex when it hits.

Beat you love my name dont you. Dropping my name won’t help your arguement. I feel like you have a man crush on me. How about changing your name to huffy instead of mongous thats more your style . Im almost positive everytime you post you at least mention my name once. Do you like guys? Dick? I already knew you werent into women, someone who was wouldnt have that much time on there hands. Xyuna the new focus already sold over 200,000 units so wheres the logic. Thats 10,000 x 20.

It looks like Ford finally got it. Sell cars people will want. Too bad they can’t get here sooner.

ihustle if you say “The 08 focus is leading small size sedans for domestics right now. The Ford edge has been the #1 Cuv for this year. The F-150 is the best selling “vehicle” in the world” again I swear I’ll track you down and hoof you in the nuts. We’ve heard you say it about a hundred times. Open up a Crown Vic brochure and give us something new(or at least something we forgot about a long long time ago).

is anyone confused as to why Ford’s “global” cars don’t come to the U.S.? i just think they should be renamed “euro-spec” seeing as that’s pretty much where they are only sold

xy is a proud and loud chubby chaser. He loves chunky ass. His ladies gotta have cushion for the pushin’.

Maybe if Ford brought some of their vehicles from across the Pond, would I maybe buy one of their cars…. Still probably not…

Bitch, you disappoint me. Get back in there and show some more numbers like a good little bitch robot. Come on, that brochure has to have more to fight with than just the Focus. Come on, Bitch, fight like a man!

Oh, and iHustle, you’re a horse’s ass.

so ford is also considering a small crossover? do we need ANOTHER crossover vehicle? shesh, and a VAN ? gasp! does anyone buy vans anymore? lawrdy lawrdy, and with their RWD uncertain, does that mean the mustang is going FWD ? thats what i don’t get, they keep the mustang RWD and can’t apply that RWD to anything else in their car lines… why just the mustang, oh thats right- it’s been the best selling car in the world right ihustle?

I found a video of Hemiroadrunner going to the bank …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aqI60GD90g

So… Fiesta is going to be late to the party eh? It won’t be competing with the new Chevy (Tom) Cruze anyways… that’s still Focus territory. Fiesta will be aimed squarely at the likes of Fit, Versa, Yaris, and Aveo. Economy and price are the selling points in that category… the cars are already slow, poorly put together, and quirky. I am slowly becoming interested in this 1.4L turbo motor that GM has… if it can get even 35MPG in stock form then a few simple bolt-on mods should make it hit 40.

mustang sales are down 28.8% ytd

Small cars R needed.
Ford is trying 2 get 2 a party honda has been at 4 a year orso.

people want the Mondeo.

a Lincoln escape is a stupid idea.

The Fiesta is smaller than the Cobalt

plumber by vans

Bubs Solo, don’t say. How’s F 150 doing?

I swear, Ford has been talking about global cars for at least three decades. Talk, talk, talk….

HAHAHAHAHA Good one beat!!!!! Your prob that most creative person i’ve ever met. Im sad to see no more robin. I dont understand you calling guys bitches, do you have sex with them. Do you enjoy talking dirty to men? I guess this is the only way you can speak sweet nothings and not be ridiculed HAHAHA Your a homo dude, i find this quite amusing. Im such a robot hahaha keep it coming buddy

f150 is down 22.8% or 75000 units for the 1st half of 2008

they could be down 100,000 itll still be #1

bad for Ford but not as bad as tundra (I heard tundra is down 51% but that is not official) or others.

sorry tundra was down 47% in June… don’t know wear I heard 51% for the year.

“General Motors’ Saturn division looked no further than GM’s European Opel brand to bring fresh and fuel-efficient models to the U.S., and Ford will soon follow suit.” What Ford needs to realize is this wasn’t a completely successful move for GM. With the exchange rate and all.

Sorry ihustle,

You can’t count. Ford has only sold 173,000 Focuses since MY2008 began. And if the F-Series lost 100,000 unit sales, the Silverado would outsell it by about 40,000 units. That and the Silverado gets their using one platform, not by branding two different platforms with the same basic name, calling it a “Series”.

Sorry…wrong form of “their/there”…

i know your count is off dumb ass. FYI Gm combine Chevy And GM truck sales. Good try though

32 years and counting buddy GM never beat us once

Sorry…GM beats your EVERY YEAR. Chevrolet alone just doesn’t.

Ford can brand all the vehicles it wants as F-Series. The full-size GM trucks still outsell the full-size Ford trucks. Ass.

Chevrolet has sold 424,000 Silverados this model year. Ford has sold 484,000 F-Series pickups.

Chevrolet has also sold 37,000 Avalanches and 153,000 Sierras.

424,000+37,000+153,000 = 614,000 > 484,000

Go to media.gm.com and add up their totals for September ‘07-June ‘08 and you’ll see…your ass is getting kicked by GM.

Sorry…GMC has sold 153,000 Sierras.

My point still stands. If Ford lost 100,000 unit sales, Chevrolet alone would be 40,000 units ahead. Eat that.

Sorry for the 4 posts in a row now, but ihustle, why don’t you prove that the Ford F-Series is outselling the Chevy Silverado by 100,001 units and I’ll believe you.

According to facts and figures produced in the real world, and regulated by law, the Silverado is only 60,000 units behind the F-Series.

ford NA needs to get these great euro models. the are so good,efficient,well designed,good to drive,decent reliability and good quality. hell GM could do it for saturn importing the OPELS which aren’t a patch on these fords.
german design FORD is great

chevy Silverado is down 25.6% for the year and the Ram is down 30.4% ytd.

Dearest iHussie:

http://despair.com/giveup.html

I like this one for him:
http://despair.com/consistency

err…
http://despair.com/consistency.html

still behid, similar to beat, chevy loves being behind

Chevy has never and will never claim the title. Why? Because they know the truth. 32 years and running

iHussie, did you just say you love it when I come from behind? I’m not even going to go there.

ihustle,

Who claimed the title 33 years ago?

I think it was Datsun

Who cares really… Believe me if GM sold more trucks then Ford YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT. They would be gloating if they did. THey havent and never will. Gm’s trucks are inferior. *Beat* Stop thinking about di3K, i know you love it but i dont swing that way

WOW for a guy who talks a lot about name dropping, he does it himself in every post. I’ll say it again, you are the one you hate.

good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oil dropped below $130

Have you learned nothing, ihustle,

GM DOES SELL MORE FULL-SIZE PICKUPS (614,000>484,000) than Ford. It’s just that the Chevrolet brand is about 20,000 units behind the Ford brand.

So sit down and shut up. When was the last time a Ford won truck of the year? When was the last time a Ford truck won an automotive comparison test?

Chevrolet’s pickups have proven to be more highly rated by every auto publication, they get better fuel economy, and rank higher in the quality surveys.

That’s just the way it is, my friend. And I don’t work for GM, a GM dealer, nor do I own a GM product.

The only way to settle or prove which company is better we’ll have to wait and see which one goes bankrupt first. Darwin at work.. Survival of the fittest

Chester, this isn’t about whose product is better, it’s about the fact that the ihustle sales bot is spewing a load of BS about sales figures.

What are the sales numbers for F150+F250+F350? and what are CHEVROLET sales for Silverado 1500+Silverado 2500+Silverado 3500? Ford doesnt have the equivalent of Sierra or Avalanche so they should not be included in the count. Thats like saying Burger King sells more bacon cheese burgers than McDonald’s.. McDonald’s doesn’t even have bacon cheese burgers but McDonald’s does have regular cheese burger and it outsells BK’s cheese burger.

So my point is…. Ford wins so shut the hell up I-6

you gotta give it to him though, lol he does try hard at what he does.. haha

I think its funny everyone calls him a robot… no offense Ihustle but sometimes you do sound like a car salesman

Chester, ihustle is saying that Ford outsells GM in full-size pickups. They don’t. I’ve shown that.

Thing is, Ford’s numbers are technically accurate, but only because they count the F-150 and Super Duties in that mix. The problem with that is that the Super Duties are built on a completely different (read: much older) platform than the F-150 is built on.

The Silverado, Avalanche, and Sierra are all built on the same platform, as are the Silverado HD and Sierra HD.

The truth of the matter is, Ford doesn’t make the best-selling truck. GM does, they just market it in three versions under three different brands. What, are you going to say that the GMC Sierra doesn’t compete with the F-Series?

If they do, then Ford does have an equivalent, the F-Series.

The Sierra is GMC’s version of the Silverado, so why can’t you count it. If you mean Ford doesn’t have an equivalent because it’s not on the same level, you got that right. And if the Avalance was about 37,000 units, that means Ford still looses as you would put it.

GM’s just smart enough to offer the same truck on one platform and market it three ways, two as Chevrolets, and one as a GMC.

So GM is producing one basic truck that outsells the F-Series, which is two different trucks. And, as of June, they’ve sold 130,000 more units than Ford has in the last 9 months.

For MY2007, GM sold 164,045 more trucks than Ford did. In 2006, they outsold Ford by 43,500. In 2005, GM outsold Ford by 107,542. In 2004, the spread was 59,077. In 2003, it was 166,482.

32 years and counting. IF GM COULD CLAIM IT THEY WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DONT, Because its un-true. Dont you think if gm out sold ford in the truck department they would make it known???? Of course they would because they would want america to know. All american companys take pride in being the best in something. Gm is outsold year after year, 32 they havent beat us once

Sorry, pal. You’re wrong.

Ford has the best-selling single-branded full-size truck. But put Chevy and GMC’s nearly identical trucks together, and GM sells more.

That’s just the way it is.

Facts are facts. Prove your point if you can.

PRODUCT IS BRAND, folks. Count them all. An F-Series is an F-Series, unless it is 450 & over, & considered a heavy vehicle.

Then why doesnt GM claim the title?????????????????????????????????????? Because its false go to gm’s sight and link me to one thing that says they have the best selling truck. Dont waste 2 much time because its non existend 32 years and running pal. Never beaten once

There are too many links to provide, dude.

You should know your competition better than that.

Ford doesn’t claim to sell more trucks than any other COMPANY, they claim to sell more trucks than any other single BRAND. That is true, and has been for 32 years.

But GM, as a company, sells more trucks than Ford does, and has every year this decade, and through most of the ’90s, ’80s, ’70s, and before.

Prove otherwise.

TOZO,

Ford counts the F450-750 in the F-Series sales mix. And Ford can rebadge the Focus as an F-10, the Fusion as an F-30, and the Taurus as an F-50, and GM would STILL SELL MORE FULL-SIZE TRUCKS.

Ford does claim to sell more trucks then anyone. Do you know the f150 was the best selling “Vehicle” in the world for the last 4 years. It will prob lose this year but it will come in a close second. GIVE ME A LINK WHERE GM CLAIMS TO SELL MORE. JUST ONE LINK

in 04 chevy sold 680768 silverados and 213756 sierra while ford sold 939511 f150s. Ford out sold gm by nearly 50000 vehicles.

Not if you count the Avalanche, which is also a full-size pickup on the same platform. In MY2004, 86,393 were sold.

Ford “trucks” outsells GM “trucks”…but who gives a rats ass! Both companys have been riding a false high for years. Now that the consumers are realizing that not everyone needs a 4door 4×4 that gets 10 mpgs to drive back & forth to work, there will be nothing to brag about. It’s about as important as who has the best selling riding lawn mowert, John Deere or Cub Cadet. The trucks are going to be more utilitarian than status symbols in the very near future.

desertdweller,

Once again, read this (overly long) thread. GM trucks outsell Ford trucks. Not the other way round.

inline6 – it seems to me that the only reason you joined is to argue. We can add this, subtract that, argue the fact that since a certain vehicle is on the same platform that we should count it as a sale, or whatever. But who cares!!! The Ford Fusion was built on the same platform as the Mazda 6, should we count that as a sale for Mazda or Ford?
Have we forgotten that the article is about the manufacturers bringing vehicles over from Europe? One thing that we need to realize is that these companies haven’t IMPORTED vehicles into this country in a very long time. I’m sure that with all the bureaucratic B.S. that they’ll have to go through with the government is about the equivelant of talking them into letting us start to import cuban cigars again.

desertdweller
Ford is taking these designs from Europe but actually manufacturing the vehicles in NA. There is no importing to be had.

Desertdweller, I’m just curious as to what part of the desert you dwell.

And no, Fusion and 6 sales should not be counted as Ford or Mazda only, but they CAN be counted as FoMoCo sales. However we marketers want to twist it, we can.

What I will say is that lately the domestics have been looking much better, which puts a nice big smile on my face. I really feel the reputation big displacement, heavy handling and subpar interiors will soon be history. I, for one, cannot wait for the domestics to show me what they can do. 2010 is going to be a very good year.