Well, when you REBADGE every vehicle that you have 2 to 3 times, what do you expect???

GM needs to get its act together and finish the work on their new Diesel V-8 so they can start on their next Diesel engine (V-6/I-6 etc.). Hybrids are not the way to go.

how about 30mpg+ vehicle as a percentage of fleet sales?

The details don’t really matter. If GM can advertise this claim then the public will start to see yet another advantage. Their new warranty ads (flying cars) are getting lots of attention and now this. People don’t look into the details, they just get warm and fuzzy feelings from these claims.

Yup, but what happens when the new EPA rules kick in in two years..

GM could build a car that runs on air and produces no emissions but the faint scent of daiseys and some of you folks would find a way to criticize them.
You lose what ever credibility you might of had here when you get to that point.

hahah joseph is exactly right. Fantastic that you really only have 6 models with 30+mpg, considering they are all manipulated into every other vehicle out there. The Cobalt and Pontiac G5 dont count as two separate cars, GM.

and they are going to get left in the dust with Hybrids.. im glad everyone is realizing the potential of diesels FINALLY

Above posts mention how they have the most 30+mpg vehicles because of the sheer number of similar vehicles GM is responsible for. Given all of GM’s models, could they also make the claim they have the most -17mpg vehicles out there too, I wonder? : )

angelo, 90% of Chevrolet cars sold get 30mpg and above on the highway. Not counting trucks. Is this what you meant by fleet?

New epa rules will mean that all makes will drop the advertised numbers to a more reasonable figure.

The Hybrids are the ones that will get hit the most. Large drop in numbers for them. Other than that there should be an equal drop for all.

Of those 14 vehicles over 30mpg, there are only what 3 different designs there? Hooray for rebadgeing, great way to put a spin on Bull****.

So, they have a dozen full size GMT-900 gas hog entries and a brand devoted to gas consumption (Hummer). They must be leaders there as well huh?

Ultimately, what we’re all griping about in regards to fuel economy is operating costs. i.e. cents/mile. I’m sure that when the wave of new diesels finally makes it here, they’ll be quite impressive to drive, especially for those of us old enough to remember how diesels used to be. But if we’re going to have to pay a $3000-5000 premium for that diesel engine when we buy the car new (don’t kid yourself, the automakers WILL charge a stiff premium for diesels), AND if diesel fuel still commands a $.40 premium over regular gasoline, then I seriously doubt that diesels are going to end up having any cost advantage of gasoline engine cars.

It’s not often the first post nails it … “joseph”, you nailed it.

All you anti-hybrid pro-diesel fanatics, you do realise that it possible to build a hybrid diesel? Which would wipe the floor with both current hybrid gasoline and diesel engines.

If we are talking about posts that nailed it, Fatstrat said it best. Some of you guys really need a new hobby!

It cracks me up how many people get their rocks off, insiting others. Some people need a life.

do you think Koreans would trade a Kia for a Cheap Toyota?

I think the North Koreans will trade anything for a hamburger right now.

GMFan—-LOL!!!

GM could have built decent cars over the last couple of decades, but they didn’t.

The point of this article was nailed by “joseph”, like it or not.

Actually Chevrolets advertisement is better. 9 out of 10 Chevrolet cars get over 30 mpg.

Well, you know marketing guys… They need to come up with something.

All manufacturers rebadge or use the same engine in different models with similar MPG outcome. So GM is not doing anything outside standard business practice.

I know some people find this statement lame, but in relation as to how car sales are compiled, the Cobalt and G6 are two different cars in the same way that a Golf and a Jetta are two different cars.

Cobalt and G5 are a disgusting rebadge, but fortunately that’s become the exception as opposed to the rule. The Saturn Aura/Pontiac G6/Chevy Malibu are the same car, but you can’t tell. They’re coming along. And you will all see it.

Gm also owns 8 brands-this must be noted. And they are lagging behind in developing new forms of power, ethanol is NOT the answer.

also, many good points have been made about their re-badging, if you rebadge a car 3 times, and then add those three ‘different’ cars to your ‘30+ cars getting 30 mpg’, it hardly counts. of course, this is GM cutting the corners and bending the rules again

I cannot figure out which GM cars you are referring to as “rebadged”. There are none that I can see. Which cars are rebadged? The closest is the Cobalt/G5 but even that has different fascias and only with the coupe.

Hopefully you are not referring to vehicles like the Impala/LaCrosse? As most know these are different vehicles jsut like the Camry is different from the ES.

Doesn’t GM rebadge a bunch of KIA models?

WEKS-no. They are sellng the DAT Aveo though. It is sold world wide as a Chevrolet.

- Ethynol is a failure.

- 8 Hybrids that aren’t available NOW. More “Wait till next year” lingo from GM apologists.

“They are the ONLY manufacturer to ever offer an all electric vehicle to the public”

Bull****. You could buy an all electric Toyota RAV4.

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“They are exceptionally far along with hydrogen…”

And this matters now because??? Again, Wait till next year…

Nothing to do with Bias.

::sigh::

If Toyota made a similar claim, all the fanboys wouldn’t say a word about Camry/ES, Highlander/RX, Corolla/Matrix, etc. DIfferent cars are different cars, and no matter what GM or Ford does that is right, you’re still going to cut it down.