Comments on: General Motors claims most 30+ mpg vehicles http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brendino http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277414 Brendino Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:25:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277414 ::sigh:: If Toyota made a similar claim, all the fanboys wouldn't say a word about Camry/ES, Highlander/RX, Corolla/Matrix, etc. DIfferent cars are different cars, and no matter what GM or Ford does that is right, you're still going to cut it down. ::sigh::

If Toyota made a similar claim, all the fanboys wouldn’t say a word about Camry/ES, Highlander/RX, Corolla/Matrix, etc. DIfferent cars are different cars, and no matter what GM or Ford does that is right, you’re still going to cut it down.

]]> By: BrokenCadillac... http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277343 BrokenCadillac... Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:06:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277343 - Ethynol is a failure. - 8 Hybrids that aren't available NOW. More "Wait till next year" lingo from GM apologists. "They are the ONLY manufacturer to ever offer an all electric vehicle to the public" Bullshit. You could buy an all electric Toyota RAV4. http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DELECTRIC%2BRAV4%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26x%3Dwrt&w=720&h=469&imgurl=www.adelman.com%2Fcars%2Frav4-ev.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelman.com%2Fcars%2Fcars.html&size=44.2kB&name=rav4-ev.jpg&p=ELECTRIC+RAV4&type=jpeg&no=12&tt=172&oid=a0b8e2aaf7e16d24&ei=UTF-8 "They are exceptionally far along with hydrogen..." And this matters now because??? Again, Wait till next year... Nothing to do with Bias. - Ethynol is a failure.

- 8 Hybrids that aren’t available NOW. More “Wait till next year” lingo from GM apologists.

“They are the ONLY manufacturer to ever offer an all electric vehicle to the public”

Bullshit. You could buy an all electric Toyota RAV4.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DELECTRIC%2BRAV4%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26x%3Dwrt&w=720&h=469&imgurl=www.adelman.com%2Fcars%2Frav4-ev.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelman.com%2Fcars%2Fcars.html&size=44.2kB&name=rav4-ev.jpg&p=ELECTRIC+RAV4&type=jpeg&no=12&tt=172&oid=a0b8e2aaf7e16d24&ei=UTF-8

“They are exceptionally far along with hydrogen…”

And this matters now because??? Again, Wait till next year…

Nothing to do with Bias.

]]> By: chris2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277333 chris2 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:39:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277333 WEKS-no. They are sellng the DAT Aveo though. It is sold world wide as a Chevrolet. WEKS-no. They are sellng the DAT Aveo though. It is sold world wide as a Chevrolet.

]]> By: WEKS http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277322 WEKS Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:50:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277322 Doesn't GM rebadge a bunch of KIA models? Doesn’t GM rebadge a bunch of KIA models?

]]> By: chris2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277266 chris2 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:22:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277266 I cannot figure out which GM cars you are referring to as "rebadged". There are none that I can see. Which cars are rebadged? The closest is the Cobalt/G5 but even that has different fascias and only with the coupe. Hopefully you are not referring to vehicles like the Impala/LaCrosse? As most know these are different vehicles jsut like the Camry is different from the ES. I cannot figure out which GM cars you are referring to as “rebadged”. There are none that I can see. Which cars are rebadged? The closest is the Cobalt/G5 but even that has different fascias and only with the coupe.

Hopefully you are not referring to vehicles like the Impala/LaCrosse? As most know these are different vehicles jsut like the Camry is different from the ES.

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277261 LamborghiniZ Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:02:48 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277261 also, many good points have been made about their re-badging, if you rebadge a car 3 times, and then add those three 'different' cars to your '30+ cars getting 30 mpg', it hardly counts. of course, this is GM cutting the corners and bending the rules again also, many good points have been made about their re-badging, if you rebadge a car 3 times, and then add those three ‘different’ cars to your ’30+ cars getting 30 mpg’, it hardly counts. of course, this is GM cutting the corners and bending the rules again

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277259 LamborghiniZ Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:00:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277259 Gm also owns 8 brands-this must be noted. And they are lagging behind in developing new forms of power, ethanol is NOT the answer. Gm also owns 8 brands-this must be noted. And they are lagging behind in developing new forms of power, ethanol is NOT the answer.

]]> By: youngm7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277239 youngm7 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:12:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277239 Cobalt and G5 are a disgusting rebadge, but fortunately that's become the exception as opposed to the rule. The Saturn Aura/Pontiac G6/Chevy Malibu are the same car, but you can't tell. They're coming along. And you will all see it. Cobalt and G5 are a disgusting rebadge, but fortunately that’s become the exception as opposed to the rule. The Saturn Aura/Pontiac G6/Chevy Malibu are the same car, but you can’t tell. They’re coming along. And you will all see it.

]]> By: lanapat7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277230 lanapat7 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:18:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277230 Well, you know marketing guys... They need to come up with something. All manufacturers rebadge or use the same engine in different models with similar MPG outcome. So GM is not doing anything outside standard business practice. I know some people find this statement lame, but in relation as to how car sales are compiled, the Cobalt and G6 are two different cars in the same way that a Golf and a Jetta are two different cars. Well, you know marketing guys… They need to come up with something.

All manufacturers rebadge or use the same engine in different models with similar MPG outcome. So GM is not doing anything outside standard business practice.

I know some people find this statement lame, but in relation as to how car sales are compiled, the Cobalt and G6 are two different cars in the same way that a Golf and a Jetta are two different cars.

]]> By: GMFan http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277191 GMFan Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:32:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277191 Actually Chevrolets advertisement is better. 9 out of 10 Chevrolet cars get over 30 mpg. Actually Chevrolets advertisement is better. 9 out of 10 Chevrolet cars get over 30 mpg.

]]> By: Impulsive http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277188 Impulsive Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:25:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277188 GM could have built decent cars over the last couple of decades, but they didn't. The point of this article was nailed by "joseph", like it or not. GM could have built decent cars over the last couple of decades, but they didn’t.

The point of this article was nailed by “joseph”, like it or not.

]]> By: Scott Kempton http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277181 Scott Kempton Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:56:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277181 GMFan----LOL!!! GMFan—-LOL!!!

]]> By: GMFan http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277180 GMFan Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:55:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277180 I think the North Koreans will trade anything for a hamburger right now. I think the North Koreans will trade anything for a hamburger right now.

]]> By: Mbukukanyau http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277178 Mbukukanyau Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:50:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277178 do you think Koreans would trade a Kia for a Cheap Toyota? do you think Koreans would trade a Kia for a Cheap Toyota?

]]> By: GMFan http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277173 GMFan Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:07:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277173 It cracks me up how many people get their rocks off, insiting others. Some people need a life. It cracks me up how many people get their rocks off, insiting others. Some people need a life.

]]> By: MHW http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277168 MHW Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:52:43 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277168 If we are talking about posts that nailed it, Fatstrat said it best. Some of you guys really need a new hobby! If we are talking about posts that nailed it, Fatstrat said it best. Some of you guys really need a new hobby!

]]> By: WEKS http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277161 WEKS Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:30:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277161 All you anti-hybrid pro-diesel fanatics, you do realise that it possible to build a hybrid diesel? Which would wipe the floor with both current hybrid gasoline and diesel engines. All you anti-hybrid pro-diesel fanatics, you do realise that it possible to build a hybrid diesel? Which would wipe the floor with both current hybrid gasoline and diesel engines.

]]> By: Impulsive http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277143 Impulsive Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:46:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277143 It's not often the first post nails it ... "joseph", you nailed it. It’s not often the first post nails it … “joseph”, you nailed it.

]]> By: Scott Kempton http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277139 Scott Kempton Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:33:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277139 Ultimately, what we're all griping about in regards to fuel economy is operating costs. i.e. cents/mile. I'm sure that when the wave of new diesels finally makes it here, they'll be quite impressive to drive, especially for those of us old enough to remember how diesels used to be. But if we're going to have to pay a $3000-5000 premium for that diesel engine when we buy the car new (don't kid yourself, the automakers WILL charge a stiff premium for diesels), AND if diesel fuel still commands a $.40 premium over regular gasoline, then I seriously doubt that diesels are going to end up having any cost advantage of gasoline engine cars. Ultimately, what we’re all griping about in regards to fuel economy is operating costs. i.e. cents/mile. I’m sure that when the wave of new diesels finally makes it here, they’ll be quite impressive to drive, especially for those of us old enough to remember how diesels used to be. But if we’re going to have to pay a $3000-5000 premium for that diesel engine when we buy the car new (don’t kid yourself, the automakers WILL charge a stiff premium for diesels), AND if diesel fuel still commands a $.40 premium over regular gasoline, then I seriously doubt that diesels are going to end up having any cost advantage of gasoline engine cars.

]]> By: BrokenCadillac... http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277137 BrokenCadillac... Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:25:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277137 Of those 14 vehicles over 30mpg, there are only what 3 different designs there? Hooray for rebadgeing, great way to put a spin on Bullshit. So, they have a dozen full size GMT-900 gas hog entries and a brand devoted to gas consumption (Hummer). They must be leaders there as well huh? Of those 14 vehicles over 30mpg, there are only what 3 different designs there? Hooray for rebadgeing, great way to put a spin on Bullshit.

So, they have a dozen full size GMT-900 gas hog entries and a brand devoted to gas consumption (Hummer). They must be leaders there as well huh?

]]> By: chris2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277125 chris2 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:42:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277125 New epa rules will mean that all makes will drop the advertised numbers to a more reasonable figure. The Hybrids are the ones that will get hit the most. Large drop in numbers for them. Other than that there should be an equal drop for all. New epa rules will mean that all makes will drop the advertised numbers to a more reasonable figure.

The Hybrids are the ones that will get hit the most. Large drop in numbers for them. Other than that there should be an equal drop for all.

]]> By: chris2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277124 chris2 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:35:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277124 angelo, 90% of Chevrolet cars sold get 30mpg and above on the highway. Not counting trucks. Is this what you meant by fleet? angelo, 90% of Chevrolet cars sold get 30mpg and above on the highway. Not counting trucks. Is this what you meant by fleet?

]]> By: davebo http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277118 davebo Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:04:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277118 Above posts mention how they have the most 30+mpg vehicles because of the sheer number of similar vehicles GM is responsible for. Given all of GM's models, could they also make the claim they have the most -17mpg vehicles out there too, I wonder? : ) Above posts mention how they have the most 30+mpg vehicles because of the sheer number of similar vehicles GM is responsible for. Given all of GM’s models, could they also make the claim they have the most -17mpg vehicles out there too, I wonder? : )

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277116 A4 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:57:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277116 and they are going to get left in the dust with Hybrids.. im glad everyone is realizing the potential of diesels FINALLY and they are going to get left in the dust with Hybrids.. im glad everyone is realizing the potential of diesels FINALLY

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277115 A4 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:56:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277115 hahah joseph is exactly right. Fantastic that you really only have 6 models with 30+mpg, considering they are all manipulated into every other vehicle out there. The Cobalt and Pontiac G5 dont count as two separate cars, GM. hahah joseph is exactly right. Fantastic that you really only have 6 models with 30+mpg, considering they are all manipulated into every other vehicle out there. The Cobalt and Pontiac G5 dont count as two separate cars, GM.

]]> By: Fatstrat http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277107 Fatstrat Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:44:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277107 GM could build a car that runs on air and produces no emissions but the faint scent of daiseys and some of you folks would find a way to criticize them. You lose what ever credibility you might of had here when you get to that point. GM could build a car that runs on air and produces no emissions but the faint scent of daiseys and some of you folks would find a way to criticize them.
You lose what ever credibility you might of had here when you get to that point.

]]> By: mertzen http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277102 mertzen Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:17:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277102 Yup, but what happens when the new EPA rules kick in in two years.. Yup, but what happens when the new EPA rules kick in in two years..

]]> By: MikeFX http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277100 MikeFX Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:01:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277100 The details don't really matter. If GM can advertise this claim then the public will start to see yet another advantage. Their new warranty ads (flying cars) are getting lots of attention and now this. People don't look into the details, they just get warm and fuzzy feelings from these claims. The details don’t really matter. If GM can advertise this claim then the public will start to see yet another advantage. Their new warranty ads (flying cars) are getting lots of attention and now this. People don’t look into the details, they just get warm and fuzzy feelings from these claims.

]]> By: angelo http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277097 angelo Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:54:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277097 how about 30mpg+ vehicle as a percentage of fleet sales? how about 30mpg+ vehicle as a percentage of fleet sales?

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277092 1c3d0g Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:34:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277092 GM needs to get its act together and finish the work on their new Diesel V-8 so they can start on their next Diesel engine (V-6/I-6 etc.). Hybrids are not the way to go. GM needs to get its act together and finish the work on their new Diesel V-8 so they can start on their next Diesel engine (V-6/I-6 etc.). Hybrids are not the way to go.

]]> By: joseph http://www.leftlanenews.com/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles.html#comment-277083 joseph Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:22:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/18/general-motors-claims-most-30-mpg-vehicles/#comment-277083 Well, when you REBADGE every vehicle that you have 2 to 3 times, what do you expect??? Well, when you REBADGE every vehicle that you have 2 to 3 times, what do you expect???

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