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Spied: GM’s next-gen Duramax diesel

06/22/2009, 12:12 PM

By Drew Johnson

Diesel may be in the dumps when it comes to light-duty pickup trucks but things are starting to get hot in the heavy-duty segment. New federal emissions rules set to take effect in 2010 have sent Ford and General Motors back to the drawing boards. Dodge, with its 6.7L Cummins engine, already meets 2010 emissions standards.

We’ve previously reported about Ford’s upcoming 6.7-liter eight-cylinder in-house replacement for the current 6.4-liter V-8 Power Stroke, code-named “Scorpion”. Now, we’ve received new information from sources about GM’s updated 6.6-liter Duramax V-8, plus this close-up spy photo.

General Motors uses three letter identifiers to designate each new iteration of Duramax. The current 2007-10 ‘LMM’ Duramax is designed to run on ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel and work with a diesel particulate filter to cut soot emissions by 90 percent from 2006 levels. The LMM replacement is said to be called the ‘LML’ Duramax.

The LML Duramax is expected to be GM’s cleanest diesel engine yet. Some have speculated that its displacement would grow to 6.9-liters for emissions reasons but our sources say it will continue to be a 6.6-liter V-8.

In addition to trapping almost all particulates, the LML will have to cut nitrogen oxide levels by at least 90 percent from today using urea selective catalytic reduction.

NOx is a major air pollutant that contributes to smog, asthma, and respiratory and heart diseases. It’s a byproduct of diesel’s high combustion temperatures, which results from the high frictional heat levels created by compressing air in the cylinders to the point where it can ignite diesel fuel without using a spark.

The use of urea — which is being sold under the more marketable name “diesel exhaust fluid” — will require periodic DEF refills during refueling or regularly scheduled maintenance.

But the LML won’t use urea alone to lower NOx. Our sources say the LML will also add a second exhaust gas recirculation cooler to the engine, similar to the dual-EGR cooler setup the 6.4-liter Power Stroke Diesel uses.

EGR recirculates a portion of the engine’s exhaust back into the engine at a lower temperature. The cooled gases have a higher heat capacity and contain less oxygen than air, lowering combustion temperatures and reducing the formation of NOx.

Like the LMM, the LML Duramax is expected to stay with a single variable vane turbo but the wastegate plumbing for its exhaust appears to have changed considerably compared to the older engine. This is likely for emissions reasons.

When the original 2001-04 LB7 6.6-liter Duramax V-8 debuted, it helped pioneer the use of solenoid-controlled common-rail fuel injection in HD pickups. The LML is said to be upgraded to state-of-the-art piezo-electric injectors, which can react faster to fuel demands than solenoids.

One of the major innovations of GM’s now-shelved 4.5-liter V-8 ‘baby’ Duramax was the use of compacted graphite iron in the engine block to keep weight down and increase strength. For now, the LML is expected to stick with a conventional, heavier gray iron block.

The same aluminum heads used in the LMM and LBZ Duramax engine are said to continue unchanged, though the pistons are expected to feature a new oil-flow design to improve temperature control.

Almost a year ago, in the first spy photos of 2011 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra Heavy Duty mules, we noted the inlet in the middle of the front bumper that feeds air to the truck’s transmission oil cooler is about a third larger than the current inlet. We wondered what changes GM might be planning for the Silverado’s Allison transmission and EGR system. Our sources say the LML will continue to use a six-speed automatic. Some work had been done experimenting with an eight-speed automatic for improved fuel economy and towing performance but it’s said it was determined to be too costly. The large inlet is likely due to increased use of EGR and what’s said to be major changes to the Allison gearbox’s torque converter.

We expect power ratings for the LML Duramax to be approximately 700 pounds-feet of torque and 390 horsepower.

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06/22, 12:30 PM

posted by:

A4

Nothin beats a Duramax

06/22, 12:31 PM

posted by:

CADDY-V

You gotta love the Sierra!

06/22, 1:10 PM

posted by:

bigs4610

this engine is a freaking work of art.

06/22, 1:33 PM

posted by:

Borat

Cummins with manual tranny beats Duramax with slush box. I don’t believe you order Duramax with manual gearbox.

06/22, 1:45 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

I would go with the a Ford Truck any day of the week over a Psuedo truck like Chevy. And I am Sure Ford’s Scorpion Motor will out Haul and more importantly far outlast the poor duramax motor.

06/22, 2:27 PM

posted by:

bigp

Bankruptcy2009 is right ford rules ,, a4 is on crack because the current ford out hauls all

06/22, 2:56 PM

posted by:

cab396

A4 you’re correct! Borat, unless you’re in the middle of Texas, who in their right mind wants to drive a heavy duty PU with a manual tranny? You can’t beat the Allison! Every Big-rig on the road has an Allison in it! And, Dodge/Chrysler has never had a truck auto tranny worth a dam! Bigp, just another Ford guy…….the Power Stroke, from recent years, has been nothing but a thorn-in-the-side for Ford. And, would you want to own the 1st internally designed and built Ford diesel.

06/22, 3:09 PM

posted by:

zfenderguy

700 lb-ft! That is brutal amounts of torque. I can’t wait to see that thing in action.

06/22, 3:45 PM

posted by:

idrinorbarsaku

390hp….700pft…..OMG…I need to stick that in an excursion!

06/22, 3:59 PM

posted by:

Dante_JoseCuervo

Bankruptcy, I agree. Ford beats chevy, no question about that. Although on a random side note I think it’s funny that AMG’s V12 petrol was getting 738 ft-lbs of torque, more than this big diesel. Not making a comparison, just musing.

06/22, 7:49 PM

posted by:

biff152

At my work we have a new F-550 diesel. It really pulls impressively with a 25000 lb trailer, but it in a race the Duramax wins. That’s just the way it is.

06/22, 8:42 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

cab396 Your wrong Ford has designed their Diesels in house before, but like many other companies they outsourced to Navistar or H. International . So there are no worries mate Ford motor will do a darn good job on their diesel.

Dante and your point is . Shut up lol

Biff there are Ford Trucks that will out move a Chevy too. The Ford Lighting and theirs nothing Chevy has that can catch it! the SS Silverado. No WAY JOSE. NO Pun intended

06/23, 12:45 AM

posted by:

AWilli

BK2009

Well lets see GM come out with the Typhoon and Cyclone then the SS454, then Ford came out with the 351 Lightning, not good enough so Ford did the 5.4 lightning useing a huffer to make 380 hp but with no towing capacity? then GM came out with the Silverado SS that while weighing 5100 lbs. ran 0-60 in 6.7 and could haul 4 people and tow 8100 lbs.

And you are wrong Ford did not design and farm out thier diesel engine design, International Harvester (Navistar) did all of the work creating and building the engine and Ford adapted it to their trucks. Fords pending lawsuit against Navistar alledges that Navistars design was poor and that Navistar should be liable for all or part of the numerous warranty claims against the powerstroke.

06/23, 11:42 AM

posted by:

Dante_JoseCuervo

Bankruptcy2009

-…actually that was my point…. :D :P

06/23, 12:44 PM

posted by:

jayjc08

aWilli- In the past 15 years they haven’t, but Ford did at one point. At one very far away point, about 40 years ago…

Have you driven the Silverado SS? Overweight and takes corners like… well, any other kind of truck. The Lightning may not have been as practical but atleast it was a bit better in a straight line and had a *cool* name.

06/23, 1:16 PM

posted by:

1c3d0g

A larger intake is ALWAYS welcome, especially when you’re dealing with 100+ degree weather…

06/23, 1:20 PM

posted by:

Bankruptcy2009

Yeah well I don’t know what you’ve been smoking AWilli but the F-150 was good for 0-60 in 4.9 Seconds which kind of makes the Silervado 6.7 look pretty slow in comparison. Plus the Tow capacity was decent @ 10,350lbs that was actually pretty good then. It outhauled the 500 HP SRT-10 Ram Pickup which was rated only for 6,400 Lbs!

06/26, 2:18 PM

posted by:

PBrahma

I don’t even think the Duramax is for GM. I think is from Isuzu, Japanese.

08/07, 7:13 PM

posted by:

Smokin_04

all i got to say is i gotta 04 duramax that has never been outpulled or outran by a ford or dodge..and i get over 20 miles a gallon. its still running unlike my buddies 07 dodge with 40,000 miles or my co workers 08 ford which is making oil every oil change LMAO! way to go ford and dodge

 
 
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