Comments on: GM announces 14 facility closures

By: Hyperion

Hyperion — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:17:18 +0000

Regarding product losses (irregardless of what this is going to do to all those workers) really only losing the Solstice/Sky and the 3800 V6 and Northstar V8′s sucks.

… but the job losses from this are going to be tremendous. I hope the plant employees can make it in the interim.

By: sterfry71

sterfry71 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:50:06 +0000

“Pontiac Assembly Center: GM will close its Pontiac, Michigan, plant by October. The Pontiac Assembly Center currently builds the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra. Production of these pickups will continue at the automaker’s Fort Wayne, Indiana, Oshawa, Ontario, Flint, Michigan, and Silao, Mexico, assembly plants.”

Since US taxpayers now own the majority of GM (whether we want to or not), can we not stipulate that GM closes foreign assembly plants before domestic assembly plants? The Oshawa, Ontairo or Silao, Mexico assembly plants should to be closed instead of the Pontiac, Michigan plant. I’m not fond of subsidizing GM but it really hacks me off to find my tax dollars are being sent out of the country.

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:35:01 +0000

LWA – I trust my decisions more than yours, Obama’s, or any company’s. You’re the one who is in love with the collective – I couldnt give a crap about it, borg-boy.

But since you bring it up, let me explain why I am right and you are wrong:
…. 1) Your way of thinking specifically oppresses and denies my opinions and freedoms.
…. 2) My way of thinking allows room for both yours and mine.

That’s really all it comes down to, and that’s you you are a clueless mofo, mofo. See, in your world, I am supposed to live according to exactly what you and your collectivists think and no real difference is tolerable. None. You just want me to pay and pay and pay and subjugate myself to the collective.

In my world, I live as I want, and so do you. That does not deny you the right to form your collective and live by it – it only denies to the ability to force others to live by it. You and your fellow believers are free to bands together, test your foods, form and fund your own car companies, pool your money to provide healthcare for one another, pay each other welfare, etc. Have a good time but LEAVE ME OUT – that is all. But since you believe in dictatorship, you cant handle that. And that is why you are wrong, always.

By: leftwingagenda

leftwingagenda — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:12:05 +0000

right, businesses should be totally unsupervised…screw the FDA and any safety standards, they just get in the way of business…the government has no right to try to protect the citizens from companies, because we all know companies behave morally and always make the right decisions in our collective best interest, right?

lolz…clueless mofo

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:24:52 +0000

Michael Moore needs to make a flick called Chester Cheetoh And Me.

Teahead, I was rooting for GM until they were effectively nationalized. POSident Obozo likes to say that he doesn’t want to run the show, but he fires/appoints CEOs, announced the bankruptcies, browbeats stakeholders in a way to hand out political favors, etc. That’s called nationalization in every way but on paper, and so now I am rooting for the the complete failure of GM.

When the government meddles with private industry, failure is the result. The sooner, the better.

By: Fletch

Fletch — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:19:29 +0000

Too bad for all the folks that work at these plants. Maybe Michael Moore will make a movie called Barack and Me?

By: Borat

Borat — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:12:52 +0000

teahead, I appreciate your motives, but what American made clothing and shoes are your wearing? Do you watch TV? Where the computer made that you used to type message is made (hint look on the back panel)?

By: bghewy

bghewy — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:10:45 +0000

Holden is not at this stage being effected as they are currently able to sustain themselves using the local australian market and the exports they have to the middle east and asia pacific. What you got against Holden Barry Obama. They gave you one of the best Pontiacs you have had in years.

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:46:55 +0000

Just think… if they would have made a few more cars and a few less trucks about 5 years ago a lot of this could have been avoided.

By: leftwingagenda

leftwingagenda — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:41:28 +0000

eco friendly faggot here…just to clarify, recognizing that we are consuming the world’s resources at a faster rate than those resources are regenerated does not mean you hate your country…if we were less dependent on oil as a nation do you think this country would be less secure with respect to the OPEC stranglehold on oil, or more secure? i’m going to stop there, the answer is obvious…

but be careful where you oversimplify and spew hate, because you’re probably just being really really ignorant…

By: teahead

teahead — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:39:11 +0000

All you a-holes who relish in an American Car company such as GM/Chrysler going down the tubes needs to get out of the country and move to China where fascism runs deep and agrees w/your values.

You are not an American who loves to see people lose their jobs and livelihood and whole communities suffer.

Shame on you.

By: hummah

hummah — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:10:36 +0000

It’s a sad day for American manufacturing that’s for sure. BUT this needed to happen for GM to become a viable auto manufacturer. None of the foreign competition has nearly the amount of BS from unions, pension legacies, bad product image, and corporate pork. Maybe GM will emerge with a new positive outlook- but I doubt it. I’m not even sure I will buy their stock when it tanks to 5 cents a share.

By: mayer_ray_nagin

mayer_ray_nagin — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:08:50 +0000

All these employees are civil servants now so they can be converted to congressional interns for Barney Frank.

By: Barry Obama

Barry Obama — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:07:30 +0000

GM didn’t go bankrupt due to the Global Crisis, or no availability of credit, it went bankrupt because it made 5hit cars from the 70s till now.

Please take Holden with you on the way out.

Noone buys American design but Americans.

By: bigs4610

bigs4610 — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:03:58 +0000

thank you Jdasch1
people need to stop pointing fingers, and realize that the American auto industry is CRITICAL to our economy as a nation.

stop whining about tax dollars, i would rather see in in the auto industry, that employs more than half the American people, than the crooked banks handing out millions upon millions of dollars in bonuses to a handful of people and LYING about it.
at least when GM makes a mistake the NHTSA is there to publisise the recall

By: Borat

Borat — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:02:27 +0000

bigs4610, lets all be a bit reasonable. I am not stating that statements of ACC are not inflammatory or misguided. I am not agreeing with all he said. But to place blame on what happened at GM on him or on general public is like blaming consumers for TV’s made in So. Korea, Japan or China. Or blaming consumers for wearing Chinese made shoes or pants. The reality is that Bankrupt 2 and Ford had produced vehicles which were profitable but profits were gone and when gas prices climbed they were caught with pants down without fuel efficient offerings. They were fighting everything and everybody regarding mileage, compare what Putz singing today to what he was singing a year or two years ago. Management refused any independent thought and it is a war zone between corrupt management and equally corrupt unions. Meanwhile Asians are building cars in US in US factories using US labor and engineering talent that escaped from big 3 (most of Honda, Toyota, Nissan vehicles are designed by former Big 3 talent). There was no economical or practical reason for GM and Chrysler to exist and I have not seen reason for them to exist today. I believe that engineering and marketing talent will find home in FIAT, Toyota, Nissan etc and if unions will die, there will be little tears shed nation wide. This bankruptcy places fox in the hen coop: unions and corporate management robbed investors yet they receive disproportionate chunk of empires remnants.

By: jdasch1

jdasch1 — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:49:02 +0000

Some banks are currently only advancing 80% loan to book value on Chrysler vehicles…now GM vehicles are going to go for a big tumble in values…this doesn’t help move the vehicles they need to sell now…someone big needs to buy GM so the whole value story doesn’t take the auto market down. Everyone is in this together…if you don’t think so, your ignorant. Until these BK’ed companies get back to normal, the whole consumer market for vehicles is going to be weak which in turn brings down the healthy ones. Nasty deal.

By: bigs4610

bigs4610 — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:40:38 +0000

dude you are so brainwashed its not even funny.
just go jump off a bridge please.
You’re the reason were in this situation. EVERYONE is to blame.
its not the workers who make the cars. they dont make the decisions as to what is produced. they are given the materials and told to put it together thats it.

there are people in this world who take pride in what they do and the things they build. not everyone is a eco friendly faggot that hates the country they live in.
Go drive your Prius off a bridge “American_Cars_Crap”

By: American_Cars_Crap

American_Cars_Crap — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:30:11 +0000

This is valuable information for anyone retarded enough to buy a GM car now. The list of plants and the cars they build at those plants should serve as valuable information on what cars to definately not buy. The workers at these plants know the jig is up, they will lose their jobs, so they really won’t care about the cars they build. Buying any of the cars on this list will only mean trouble for the consumer. You are going to buy an extremely inferior product built by people who just don’t care anymore. Ask yourself this, would you eat at a restuarant knowing the chef is going to lose his job today? same applys to cars. It would be almost suicide to buy a GM car now.

By: AutoCritical

AutoCritical — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:16:02 +0000

What a shame for the industry and its employees – Hopefully some plants will be re-established/opend as quickly as they were closed when they sort themselves out…