That’s great news!!

At this point it has been fueled by hype and massive spending on advertising. Well ok, and a handful of new/refreshed models…but mostly by advertising and hype. Call me when this growth is sustained and based on return customers due to product quality and innovation.

and $4250 of incentives per car in October

Who cares how they sell the car as long as they’re selling it. Name me one manufacturer who isn’t offering some incentive right now. Do I have to say it again? Well here it goes for all of you who didn’t hear this the other dozen times. The sheeple need reinforcement… if you keep repeating the same message over and over and over again eventually they’ll start to believe it whether it’s true or not. It works for cars, it works for religion and pretty much everything in between. Most of the sheeple don’t know what to think so you have to tell them. Evidently GM has told them ‘we’re all better now’ so many times that a few are actually starting to believe it.

Great news GM. The more Malibus I see driving around and the more I get them as a rental, the more I really like them.

johnnycanuck: “Who cares how they sell the car as long as they’re selling it.” That sounded like from 2007! P

Yaroukh, I think you and Johnny of the same religion. His god is pivo.

According to the National Taxpayer’s Union report “The Auto Bailout: A Taxpayer Quagmire,” authored by Rochester Institute of Technology Professor of Economics, Thomas D. Hopkins. That number includes the $52.9b taxpayer “investment” in General Motors, as well as GM’s portion of the GMAC bailout, which brings GM’s taxpayer tab to over $60b. Chrysler’s GMAC-inclusive bailout bill totals $17.4b, or $7,600 per vehicle, based on estimated 2009/2010 sales. Don’t believe that GM or Chrysler will match their projections over the next twelve months? The NTU estimates that total government support for the auto industry comes out to $800 per taxpaying American family. These numbers do not include the Cash for Clunkers program, likely future bailouts of GMAC (projected at a further $2b), or Department of Energy retooling loans (ATVML). These numbers also do not reflect the very real possibility that GM, Chrysler and GMAC could continue to drain taxpayer money post-2010. “For each year of survival beyond 2010,” the report warns, “the burden per vehicle would decline [Ed: but not disappear] – so long as no additional government funding is provided Comment

This is pure plagiarism on my part, but report warrants a bit of “borrowing”.

Borat, thanks to you I now have to scour the deepest, darkest bowels of the local fermentation emporium. You’ve given me a reason to look forward to this weekend!

OK, did you have better plans? Obviously, I brought out the best in you! I have to tell you Johnny, you do have some wicked local brew in Canadia! I wish we (south of your border) had such loose beer laws!

so let me see if I’ve got this straight… when Toyota or Honda increases market share they’re doing it by making superior vehicles, but when GM increases market share they’re doing it by cheating…. using *gasp* effective marketing strategies!
Borat, I fail to see the connection you’re trying to make. or were you just looking for an excuse to bring up the “bailout” because you couldn’t think of a way to make increased US market share into a negative thing?

Borat $800 dollars, on gm and chrysler. I would rather have a big screen.

cardemon….you are misquoting what i said. Everyone uses ads, and there is nothing with that because thats how you get your name out there. However, you need to have a product to back up what you promise. Honda and Toyota have said products, GM doesn’t.

Congratulation to all US TaxPAYERS.

Hey everybody,Ford SUCKS! I wonder how that assclown for Ford,Pipas will spin this! Bill Ford will be eating his eco-curtians in his office.Baaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Camaro will outsell Craptang for the year and it only took 9 months of sales to do it,Equinox will outsell Escape once it’s up to full production, GM pick-ups outsell F-150 and Cadillac outsells Lincoln! Ford SUCKS,say it with me now, FORD SUCKS!

orangecones: where is your proof that they dont have the product to back up their ads. it sounds to me like you’re assuming they haven’t changed a thing since the 80s/90s. I haven’t seen a GM commercial yet that I’ve found to be misleading(corny, but not misleading)

you can’t see the forest for the trees on this borat, i swear you’ve got tunnel vision so bad you’re way off in the weeds…and by the way, here’s a nice breakdown of that ridiculous article you’re quoting from jalopnik…

A study by the obviously pro-government National Taxpayers Union claims each new GM vehicle costs the average taxpayer $12,200. Their bizarre assumptions and our analysis below.

GM has been given $52.9 billion in TARP/Federal loans and financing arm GMAC has been given $12.5 billion of which approximately 8.6 billion can be considered GM money. If total car sales reach 10.5 million in 2009 and 12.5 million for 2010 and GM has roughly equal market share next year as it did in 2008 then GM will sell roughly 5.06 million over the next two years. Add and divide and you end up with about $12,200.

Rather than point out that this money protects jobs and keeps American industry from faring worse than it already is, we’ll just make a list of all NTU’s assumptions used to come up with the $12,200 per car figure plus our own analysis of how many of their assumptions are full of crap:

* GM will sell 5.06 million cars in 2009/2010 combined.
(NTU’s numbers on GM sales for 2010 are okay based on a SAAR of 10.5 million, the reality is they’ll possibly do worse than the 2.31 million cars and instead do 2.25 million.)
* GMAC will loan no money back to finance a car to anyone who is also a taxpayer
(They will)
* GM will have the same market share in 2010 it had in 2008
(Almost certainly not. It’ll probably be worse)
* Total vehicle sales will reach 10.5 million in 2009
(More like 10.7 million as of late October)
* Total vehicle sales will reach 12.5 million in 2010
(Maybe.)
* GM will not pay the $6.7 billion back
(GM’s already said it plans to start paying back the loans at the end of this year and even GM’s not that PR-illiterate. We think.)
* GM will never pay any loan back
(See above.)
* GMAC will never pay any loan back
(GMAC has an unfair advantage according to the NTU study itself, therefore we assume it’ll remain in business long enough to pay some portion of the loan back.)
* GM will not sell any cars after 2010
(OK, here’s the real silly part of the study. We all know GM will more than likely still sell cars after 2010, even if they’re cars we wish they wouldn’t sell.)

way to go GM–I am super excited because for a guy like me who will be in the market for a new car in about four years there are going to be some KICK ASS domestic offerings. Keep up the Good work GM and Ford too (cant forget about them)

Outstanding. But, the local dealers in Orlando have very little inventory to offer. The sales could be higher if they had more product.

Um Johnnycanuck, GM is a lot better now….and I’m not even a “sheeple”, or would that be a “sherson”? I think this finally shows that PEOPLE are realizing that GM, not just Toyota and Honday, makes good, high quality cars and trucks.

Dear GM – Isn’t it amazing how people flock to your products when you have a solid offering? And if you bring over a version of the Insignia Wagon to the US (ie, the speculated Buick Regal wagon), you’ll actually get me to want to go to a GM showroom.

I hope you’ve learned the errors of you ways.

They might finallly know better than to offer market share predictions. Too many unmet market share goals in the past.

Is that why Toyota is recalling 3.5 millions vehicles, because they have quality products to “back it up”. Smells like a cover up to me. They are recalling them for more than a rediculous floor mat. GM has been making far more superior, quality products for the last few years and will continue to do so.

@orangecones
“However, you need to have a product to back up what you promise. Honda and Toyota have said products, GM doesn’t.”
Do you pay attention to those commercials?
toyotas new commercial that talks about them having the most fuel efficient line, if you read the fine print at the bottom of the screen it says ” for MY 07 vehicles” It’s 09 last time I looked at a calender. That’s misleading as HELL because most people wont notice the fine print and toyota knows that.

“Everyone uses ads, and there is nothing with that because thats how you get your name out there. However, you need to have a product to back up what you promise. Honda and Toyota have said products, GM doesn’t.”

GM’s ads directly compare peritenent facts regarding their vehicles and the competition. That pretty much means their products support their advertising. Toyota and Honda sell based on perception and reputation, not innovation. This is why if you scour the entire lineups of Toyota and Honda you will only find a handful of class leaders in fuel economy even though both companies incorrectly claim they are the most fuel efficient automakers in America. If you look at full lineup automakers either GM or Ford have the best ACTUAL (not CAFE prorated) fuel economy.

I know I’m helping them – I should take delivery of my new 2010 CTS-V next week

@Z06ified
CTS-V That is nice.. I have not driven one myself yet but I have sat in one and turned it on, and i’m sure like you know that engine sounds like a beast.

Z06ified, dang man. I don’t get envious too often but, wow. Let’s just say I’m a tad envious. Enjoy!

theres only a few of us on here who can see that GM is the true American car company auto bailout or not congrats to GM!! it will only get better from here. Ford really does suck!!