Comments on: GM could use Zeta platform for large Cadillac

By: europerspective

europerspective — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:19:33 +0000

The Sixteen looked so striking mostly because it had wheels pushed right into the corners. Lutz is talking about the same wheelbase as a G8 with long front and rear overhangs. Cue the same droopy looks that we have seen on so many big American cars and awful handling and ride.

Don’t think we’ll see the S-Class or the 7-Series losing too much sleep over this plan.

By: Get Real

Get Real — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:22:14 +0000

I’m sure stupid Lutz will also demand the car have the new crome trim the rear trunk of all GM cars built today recieve. What on idiot to make a Cadillac look like an Impala from the rear. Are all GM products going to be GM designed from a central office, run by Lutz, and built with his old Chrysler quality (I mean lack of) control ?

By: 1966_GTO_

1966_GTO_ — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:29:24 +0000

This rumor has been floating around since the Sixteen concept dropped. I’m sick of hearing about it, just build it. Cadillac needs a BMW 7/MB S/Audi A8 competitor.

By: CTS DRIVER

CTS DRIVER — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:02:23 +0000

sweet, a sixteen would be bad ass, a cien would be even better. and for all you above haters why cant you give cadillac credit for being way more reliable than a mb and slightly more reliable than a bimmer? thats right you never will even afford to drive one, at least pretent to have some money and go test drive one.

By: nowei

nowei — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:50:01 +0000

I don’t think this is going to happen.

Yeah, they’ve got the basic architecture to do this car, but where’s this “with more than eight cylinders” coming from?

I seem to remember that the one of the (main) reasons behind axing the Sixteen and Cien, and spinoff technology from them, was that GM didn’t want to invest the money in producing large niche engines that couldn’t/wouldn’t benefit any marque other than Cadillac.

While I lament the decision, I don’t think it’s going to be reversed. Unless they wanted to start putting V16s and DOHC V12s into trucks and SUVs, I really don’t see them investing a lot to build two cars that won’t sell in numbers.

Of course, I suppose they could go the route of “bolting” existing engines together. LS14, anyone?

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:29:35 +0000

“yeah there were small caddys back in the day, allantes

Comment by A4, posted on February26 at 2:24 pm ”

Back in the day is when the Allante came out (late 1980’s)? Damn, you’re making me feel old!

I think of “back in the day” as the 1960’s and older. Back in the ’60’s, the smallest Cadillac was the 2-door Eldorado, but it was still a land yacht by today’s standards.

By: anyclearer

anyclearer — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:33:42 +0000

meekin111, i disagree. the lucerne is a beautiful car. but yes the dts i deff wouldnt mind getting the ax.

By: meekin111

meekin111 — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:30:47 +0000

GM should kill lucerne and DTS and replace with Holden Statesman based RWD Saloons

By: BAMF

BAMF — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:42:20 +0000

I think they meant GM’s first Zeta based car for the US

By: meekin111

meekin111 — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:05:43 +0000

the G8 isnt the first GM zeta based car the Holden Commodore and Statesman/Caprice are

By: BAMF

BAMF — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:20:21 +0000

I’d like to see the Caddy design team draw sketches for theoretical competitors to every one of Mercedes’, BMW’s, and Audi’s cars. I think that would produce some very interesting results. If they made the sketches, released them to the public for their reactions, and then produced some concept vehicles, they could build up a lot of publicity for themselves. By that time, they would have built up such a name for themselves that they could seriously consider competing with Germany’s Big 3 (Merc/BMW/Audi).

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:10:39 +0000

Sounds interesting. Maybe…

I’d almost hope that since Buick dealers are shunning the Statesman, Cadillac would pick it up as their DTS replacement. After all, I thought the Zeta platform was GM’s affordable RWD platform as opposed to the Sigma.

As for entry-level Caddys…

I’ll pass on the Europe only BLS. FWD without any AWD options? Keep it. I’d sooner jump at a 3-series. Besides I think GM could do better by taking the drive train, it alterations of course, from a Kappa Car, and building a new frame around that.

By: wiseassoffice

wiseassoffice — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:45:54 +0000

Wow the comments get dumber and dumber. Its like being in a Cadillac dealership picking out your new Cadillac when a bunch of skateboarding kids come in to ridicule a $60,000 car they will never be able to sit in much less drive. Cadillac is a far from the company that created the Cimarron or Catera.

By: BMan1113VR

BMan1113VR — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:32:44 +0000

Yup, that how I like to think of Caddys. . .made out of Lego. Nice one, Mr. Lutz.

By: global_lightning

global_lightning — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:06:57 +0000

Hey, I’ve got an idea! Do a short, short, short Caddy and with the interior from the Chevy Cobalt, the base engine from the Pontiac G5, and the suspension from the Malibu MAXX. Call it the Cimarron II abd It’ll sell like hotcakes!

By: A4

A4 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:42 +0000

but they were equal in size to a monte carlo

By: A4

A4 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:24:20 +0000

yeah there were small caddys back in the day, allantes, and those 2 door hefty coupe type deals, i dont know what they were called.

By: MC

MC — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:05:05 +0000

——–>does anybody know what kind of Cadillac that dude was driving vs. the viper at the beginning of the movie Tokyo Drift? I know it was a caddilac, but it’s mighty small for a caddilac of that timeframe…
Comment by SRT-4Ken

LOL!!! You thought that was a cadillac???????? That was an old model monte carlo. Yeah Yeah Im sure it was cause I know a guy that has one. I forgot what year but look up old model monte carlos. There were never any cadillac’s that small back then.

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:28:37 +0000

Opps GNX dammit lol.

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:27:43 +0000

Whatever happend to the new twinturbo GTX?

By: roadmaster96

roadmaster96 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:21:31 +0000

i have a 1/18th scale Cadillac sixteen sitting on my desk and i believe that it is the most beautiful car never made. If Cadillac makes a RWD car the size of the current dts (or my old roadmaster) with sixteen style and the new “ultra V8 ” if will find it’s way into my garage.

By: Madcapp

Madcapp — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:04:22 +0000

Instead of making the “very large” mistake in a time of high gas prices…how about simply well styled and RWD like the Chrysler 300C. Where the hell has the Coupe DeVille gone? Stupid assholes with their “arts and sciences” nonsense, and retarded 3 letter names with no meaning or memorable quality.

By: SRT-4Ken

SRT-4Ken — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:50:37 +0000

By: 55amg

55amg — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:34:40 +0000

if not a sixteen then a super large escalade!!

By: Renton

Renton — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:25:03 +0000

Just build it already.

By: Z06ified

Z06ified — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:23:39 +0000

It would be nice to see them build the Sixteen, and it would have no problem competing with the S-class and 7-series. But it probably doesn’t make financial sense to build it from a profitability and volume standpoint versus the substantial development costs.

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:22:43 +0000

Why not just put the Cien in production?

By: chevy490

chevy490 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:05:02 +0000

sweet!