GMC needs to make a best seller. They don’t have one vehicle in there whole line up that i would consider owning. There trucks are prob the worst on the planet. How do they consistantly get beat by Ford. Quality, something GMC has never, and will never have.

ihustle, Ford is #4 in US market after Toyota, GM, and Honda. The fact that there is negative write about GM does not make Ford look any better or smarter. It is a company guided by board of old inbreeds with no access to reality in their padded cells.

As far GM denying rumors of brands review – it is denying the slightest sign of lucidity.

Well the Acadia is an ok seller but there are 3 other versions of it and they are all less expensive too lol

HAHA There selling!!!! Get over it. Why is GM ahead of FORD? THEY OWN MORE COMPANYS!!! Dont you have any other punchlines thats 2 time. Going for a hat-trick?

the thing is if you really look at what brands they listed I can only see 2 that would make the list, and they would be:

Buick – as they have no real interesting vehicles geared to anyone under 50. And all their intereting products are in China.

Saab – It’s european, and they have very few products, and a Saab in the eyes of Europeans is not seen as a high brand name for what they offer.

“GMC needs to make a best seller. They don’t have one vehicle in there whole line up that i would consider owning.”

iHustle, don’t pretend. We all know you wouldn’t consider owning anything other than a Ford. If you did, your coworkers would probably set it ablaze. And to be frank, I’d probably do the same thing if I worked for a Ford dealer, so I don’t blame you.

If GM sells Buick, what will happen to the guys who wear Bermuda shorts with black knee socks and white shoes?

ihustle works for Ford dealership. If he would be even a little bit busy selling cars or trucks or anything, he would spare us of his insanity. Alas, Ford sells as much as GM: he has plenty of time on his hands.

^^^ They’ll buy Avalons.

howsmydriving, those guys either die off or move to Cadillacs.

They’ll buy Subaru Foresters also.

I actualy sold 2 cars today. I new focus, and a used f-150. Actually off waiting on an apointment 5:30…. Awwwww thanks for the concern though Look at you always looking out for me hahahahaha. Still havent anwsered though. Its funny how you have to “Insult” people when you can’t come up with a logical anwser. Your very similar to my 5 year old. Are you into Dora the explorer, or Barny? Maybe you guys can watch SDaturday morning cartoons with eachother

ihustle, congrats on fruitful and productive day. If mentioning your profession is an insult – change profession.

GM should ax GMC & Saturn.

GMC, because they don’t need another truck line, and those guys would just go to chevy for the same thing anyway. Plus they won’t have to close dealerships as GMC almost all dualed.

They should dump Saturn only because they really got away from the original idea of why the brand came about in the first place. “A different kind of car” is no more. As soon as they started offering rebates and got rid of the plastic panels they stopped being Saturn. And, less dealerships to pay off than any other division.

Pontiac should get all the euro/overseas stuff. And only the sportiest versions. I know Buick used to get Opels, but they really don’t fit the brand anymore. Buick should remain a semi-lux brand with traditional styling, luxury, and good quality. Pontiac more flashy/sporty/young. Dealerships would be dualed.

Just sell or close SAAB. They contribute nothing to GM that they don’t already have, sorry.

Another thing they really need to do is create more of a gap between brands in price/content/performance. When GM was at it’s best, it was a pretty big leap from a Chevy to a Buick and from Buick to Caddy. The original “ladder theory” if you will. You want fancy leather? Move up to Buick. You want RWD & Euro performance? Pontiac is your brand. You want ultimate luxury & power? Pony up for a Caddy. These days, you can outfit a Malibu just as nicely as a LaCrosse. Chevy is supposed to be simple, efficient, utilitarian, decent transportation.

There’s more but I’d be here all frickin day…

Not an insult very proud of what i do and what i sell. Funny how you still have not anwsered though. The two cars and 1100 worth of commissions was nice, leaving you stumped and still on a badgering insulting rampage is priceless

Why were we talking about who wears and drives what on the LPGA?

Don’t be so amerocentric, people: They wont sell Buick because it’s a hot brand in China, the largest hot market right now. If it’s not making money here they’d be better off letting it wither while making coin in Asia.
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I can see dumping Saturn even though the vehicles are nice. Saturns just don’t offer good relative value at their sticker versus what other brands offer at transaction price. Saturn is basically dicked by its no-dicker-sticker.
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Saab is irrelevant, and GMC sells okay. Still if I had to axe anything, it would be Saturn first and then GMC.

golf4me I couldn’t agree more

mayer_ray_nagin, GM should sell Buick to Chinese company and do it pronto, while they ahead in China. The fact of the matter is that you can’t legally transfer funds out of China, only the value of your original investment. That leaves only one option for GM: buying Chinese made cars to sell outside of China. Lets face it: GM could not sell very well American, Japanese (Isuzu, Suzuki) and Korean cars, why Chinese would be different?

I did not know that, what a messed up country

Yeah the Chinese government is very sly. They want to keep funds in their country to fuel their development. Their business practice can be shady at times.

Buick lost status in the 80’s and 90’s making clone cars.
Saturn couldn’t make an engine stay together.

After decades people don’t want to drop $20-30 grand on a car that eats them alive after the warranty runs out.

What do you mean by stay together? Early saturns had some oil consumption problems, but I see alot of 95-02 saturns running around. Please explain.

I agree monte. My neighbor just disposed of his SW2 after 200k + kms and I swear he never did an oil change and the car would be in gear and rolling even on the coldest winter morning before the #3 cylinder had sparked. I also knew a lady with an SC2 who had really big boobs… er, issues with her Saturn but none were engine related. Actually I can’t honestly be sure about that other than she did have a Saturn. What were we talking about?

hey ihustle so because GM owns more companies is the only reason why they are selling more than Ford??? Umm so tell me does Toyota and Honda also offer more companies than GM??? I don’t think so yet they are still outselling GM even… So that isn’t even a good reason why that’s the only reason GM is bigger or sells more cars than Ford…

Please wait while ihustle calls his sales rep for his next comeback….

there their they’re

are we having a spelling bee…….count me out

Hummer
Saab
Suzuki
Saturn
Pontiac

“there their they’re”

HAHAHAH! That was killing me too. Then again, much of what I read in these comments sections does.

“Need” The discussion was not on honda or toyota. So you should probably look into what your commenting on. He was telling me how Gm sold more then Ford. There is a sole reason, that reason being they own twice as many companys. If GM was cut to 5 or 4 companys there would be no comparisson. Ford would blow them out of the water. thanks, good day

Actually, iHussie, Need4SSPeed makes a valid point with a good use of logic. Here’s the logic:

A (Brands) is proportional to B (Sales)

GM has more A, and therefore more B.

Ford has less A, and therefore less B.

But Toyota has less A, and MORE B.

Because with Toyota, A is NOT proportional to B, then your argument of More Brands means More Sales is an invalid argument.

It not invalid. If you combine sales from 8 companys and say the sales from 8 companys is 750,000. Compared to sales of 4 companys equaling 525,000. Logic says if Ford had 4 more brands there sales would surpass there competitor. Thanks though, you almost made sense

Maybe, but again, you’re doing it wrong. If A=B=C, then A MUST = B in ALL situations. Need4SSpeed just pointed out a situation where A does not equal B, so logically, he proved your argument invalid. Validity is not Truth. It means that your argument cannot hold water because it is not equal in all situations.

Your all wrong they’re. If there sales were more than you’re sales, you’re sales would be all their. But there not, so your not.

GM OWNS 8 BRANDS. Ford owns 4. You cannot compare sales. Ford sells more then chevy. Ford sells more then GM. Ford does not sell more then Chevy and GM put together. Comparing 8 to 4 is no Comparisson. Its like having 5 players on a baseball team, vs 9. When the 9 player team wins, are you surprised????

Yeah, but Need pointed out that a 2 player team is kicking the 5 player team’s @$$. See how that works?

Im comparing Ford vs GM. I never touched on Honda and Toyota. Once again beat you look foolish. Your batting 1000 buddy

I’m comparing nothing. I’m just pointing out the flaws in your logic.

Flaws in my logic?You must have to much time on your hands.. Flaws in my logic? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Do you go to other forums and point out “Flaws in there logic”. You are seriously the coolest person in here!!!!!! You should feel honored. Does anyone have a trophy for this guy? Come on get him a trophy, hes point out flaws in peoples logic!!!! Come on people get him a trophy

Actually, I do. 1115 has flaws in his logic all the time. That’s why we’re here, just to piss each other off. It’s fun. You do it all the time, and we just do it back to you.

Oh, I don’t want a trophy. I just want a nice discount on an F150.

You buy it, what i buy it for. Now is the best time. Girls dont look good in a mans truck though, so that might be hard to over-come. I think you’d be better with a tundra or titan there more your style. But who am i to say anyway.

ihustle, you so crazy

“Flaws in there logic” /= Flaws in ‘their’ logic