Hey, perhaps this is the end of rivalry: Mustaro will be next mule.

America finally unites against the invasion. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Now we have America vs. Japan and Germany. I seem to remeber that happening before… and we won.

What are all the rednecks going to debate now?

Make it happen. please make it happen the big two need to get their stuff back together

*crosses fingers for Chevy Small Block powered Mustang GT and Mercury Grand Marquis*

Nightblack_97, what should we do about underwear and pants Chinese invasion? Since none are made in US we would have to appear pantless and skivvyless. My nuts don’t mind summer heat, but winter cold is unacceptable!

Comical and serious at the same time. Very interesting.

GM(Buick) is the #1 seller in China, more like the USA invading China.

This could be very interesting, might this speed up Camaro production?

Ford is in far better shape then GM. Future concepts that are hitting production for GM are quite embarassing. The Volt and Cruse? There trucks are sh*tty and they own 12 brands that couldnt conquer hawaii if they went to war. Talks of merges have surfaced before, it’ll never happen. Ford is having its own problems, no need for GM to unload even more trouble.

Won’t happen soon enough to speed up Camaro production, but could hasten consolidation of the US automakers and help kill Chrysler by freezing ‘em out… or at least forcing them to look overseas (Nissan, Peugeot) for similar commonality deals in which they would be the definite weak sister.

The new Fordolet Camstang! Yay!

ihustle, yeah GM trucks are so ****ty, thats why they get 1 million miles on them with the original engines and trans. Toyota truck would be lucky to see past 200K without the camshafts snapping.

I really don’t think this would ever legitamately happen… at least not as far as automotive design goes. Maybe some sharing of engine and hybrid technology development on the 4-cyl end… but I don’t think the Mustang will be merging with the Camaro anytime soon. Though if they did merge it could save the new company millions by simply booting redundant members of upper management.

They are talking power trains, not platform sharing! They need to do more of this “collaboration” if they are going to survive. Car sales are going to dive for the next year and a half and they have to advance technology and cut budgets and this allows them to do it. I don’t think anyone is complaining about the six speed transmission so that was a huge win for both companies, why wouldn’t you look for more where that came from?

if Marvel and Dc comics can do it- i dont see why these to can’t do a crossover

They have done a poor job in this area compared to the Euros and to a lesser extent the Japanese. BMW has deals with Renault, Fiat, Peugot as wells as GM and MB. Not to mention devlopment deals with countless suppliers like ZF transmissions.

shaver, actually Ford & GM designed and build current 6 speed autoslush box. On more historical note, GM was always the leader in automatic transmission manufacturing and was selling trannys to Europe. First Jaguar used GM transmission in their cars and was bought by Ford. The second was Volvo which actually used Cadillac tranny in their 850 series. We know bought Volvo.

*Murderedout* Wtf are you talking about? Individual experiences are a possibility, but what your speaking on is a story that was written on a 1970 “CAMARO” not a truck. Are you dumb? ANY BRAND would be lucky to exceed 150,000 miles without any problems. GM has never reported any vehicles reaching over 1,000,000 miles besides the camaro. So the question is where do your facts come from? Next ill ask you to prove all there trucks reach over 1,000,000 miles on orginal engine and trans. At that point you’ll recieve an apology. I know for a fact your statement is 100% false, actually made me laugh. Before you comment on anything, say something that is relatively true and not far-fetched bs.

The US shared our atomic technologies with Japan on a couple of occasions…

LMAO, Mark. Evil, but very funny.

Hmm… maybe Ford could get GM off this idea of pushrods and on to overhead cams.

Why do they have to “team up”? Just order a 350 and a 5.0 from Summit Racing (1-800 230-3030) and you have all the leads on the each other’s technology.

RaineMan, Pushrods are more reliable than OverHead Cams.

So…I guess since Furd blows nuts they’ll be “borrowing” GM’s legendary engines so they can actually compete worth a ****.

*Murdered* No awnser?Quite disapointing rookie, theres always next time.
*Hbc*GM does not have 1 not 1 in 12 brands a best seller. Ford has the best selling truck in the world, the mustang has never been beaten once, the edge is the #1 selling cuv, and the focus is currently the #1 small size sedan for domestics. SO actually it will be GM stealing engines or designs because obviously whatever there doing there failing miserably. THey own 12 brands and cant buy a profit out of any one of them.

Wow, it takes a collaboration between GM and Ford to create a 6 speed automatic 2 years ago. 6 Speed autos have been around for more than a decade.

Whats next? Collaborating to create an independent rear suspension for the mustang?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/250231/Chevy_Silverado_Passes_1_Million_Mile_Mark

http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/business/index.ssf/2008/02/chevy_truck_with_flint_engine.html

Need more embaressment ihustle fags?

http://www.all-synthetics.com/engine_life/engine_life.htm

Murderedout* Wtf are you talking about? Individual experiences are a possibility, but what your speaking on is a story that was written on a 1970 “CAMARO” not a truck. Are you dumb? ANY BRAND would be lucky to exceed 150,000 miles without any problems. GM has never reported any vehicles reaching over 1,000,000 miles besides the camaro. So the question is where do your facts come from? Next ill ask you to prove all there trucks reach over 1,000,000 miles on orginal engine and trans. At that point you’ll recieve an apology. I know for a fact your statement is 100% false, actually made me laugh. Before you comment on anything, say something that is relatively true and not far-fetched bs.

ROTFL, DONT I JUST LOVE REDEMPTION:)
http://www.gmnext.com/Details/Videos.aspx?id=069d1e60-2266-40fa-834f-99fcae06521e

ihustlefags is still a newbie to LLN, not to mention a highschool pimpled face teenage virgin who don’t even own a car or have a drivers license. Keep Playing your need4speed little fella.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

“GM has never reported any vehicles reaching over 1,000,000 miles besides the camaro. So the question is where do your facts come from? Next ill ask you to prove all there trucks reach over 1,000,000 miles on orginal engine and trans. At that point you’ll recieve an apology”

OH REALLY? http://www.gmnext.com/Details/Videos.aspx?id=069d1e60-2266-40fa-834f-99fcae06521e

WHO’S THE “ROOKIE” NOW? YOU, YOU FAG!

LMAO. He still won’t accept that, Murderedout, because iHustle is a robot programmed to do nothing but sell Fords.

What will happen if those 2 merge? murderedout, ihustle with whom you gonna argue? Even worse scenario: Toyota buys both of them!

Is ishustle in hiding now that he/she got burned? Where you at now?

xyunya, Toyota and GM did merge for the Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix, Chevy Prizm/Toyota Corolla, at the NUMMI plant in CA. Wow you people really don’t know much about cars do ya. Oh and xyunya, GM could buy Toyota, but they don’t like headlights with slanted eyes. GM #1 for 76 years in a ROW!. Until Toyota or any other car company does it for 76, then come to me.

Most likely, his logic circuits went on the fritz after that little information surge. His owner/manager probably had to reboot him and run a disc check and anti-virus scan.

Oh Jesus…here we go again with you ihustle and your “Best Selling Truck” speech. Who gives a ****? I’m going to be honest, I have an ‘07 Duramax…I love it, and it whips the pants off the Powerjoke. Irregardless, after this vehicle, and possibly a newer car of some sort, I’m not planning on buying any NEW vehicles. They suck…and do you know why they suck? No you probably don’t because you mentioned before that you may be some sort of dealer (Furd, most likely). New vehicles suck because America and it’s EPA are going down the crapper because of hippies and librals trying to get all vehicles to let exahust fumes out of a straw. Emissions on all new cars/trucks are bull****. Computer controlled (also called Engine Control Modules [ECM]) engines are bull****. There have been great advancements in automotive history…especially in the past 10-20 years, but it’s all gone to more restrictive and less enjoyable driving. Anyway…back to my point, ihustle, unless people are ****ing retarded, how many 30’s style hot rods do you see (in car shows and whatnot) that are Fords? Quite a few right? Now, how many of those Fords have Chevy engines in them? If you have at least a little sense to you, you would say many of them. And there-in lies my point. Chevy small blocks (and big blocks for that matter) are uncompromisible. Easily tuned and modified and long lasting. And if you read, read about how it took Chevy 44 years to come up with a small block [1955] (since it’s founding) and Furd 51 years [1954] (since it’s founding).

What six speed are they refering to, the FWD or RWD? As far as I know they are all Hydromatics (GM) in GM’s line up except for the Allison. 6T40E/6T45E, 6T70E/6T75E FWD and 6L50E/6L80E/6L90E for RWD, all developed by Hydromatic.

Murdered you said ALL gm trucks will reach over 1,000,000 miles thats not true. SO yes you are the DUMBAS$ HAHAHAH They were all the same truck, hold on let me copy and paste what you said.
ihustle, yeah GM trucks are so ****ty, thats why they get 1 million miles on them with the original engines and trans. Toyota truck would be lucky to see past 200K without the camshafts snapping.
“They” Dont get sh*t lets get that straight. 1 out of a million is more like it, such a herb. HAHAHAHAH Good point!!!!! real brain buster pal! hahahaha
Im happy your all so concerned on my absence. Actually sold another car, but what else is new
Xyunya theres been talks of them merging forever and it will never happen. Toyota does not have enough capital to buy either one or they prob would of already, dont you think they’d like there more fierce competitors to be there own?????

What did you sell a focus? hahaha. I never said “ALL”, your so retarted. Now show me a F-150 with a million miles? BTW I like all Domestic Brands, Only foreign companys I like are Italians. Ferarri, Maserati, Lamborghini, etc.

HB* I never commented on chevy’s engine. I actually agree with alot that you just said. Lucky for Ford on there part, there has been major improvements in quality since the golden years you speak of. If im buying a truck, and im using it to make a living. Towing, major payload etc etc. Im going with the best, and Ford hands down has the best truck. American people are my facts, and when you outsell your competitors for 32 years straight, america has spoken. The mustang has been the only sports car in continous production since its debut. It has outsold the Camaro every single year both were competing. GM has so much faith in the camaro that they pull them off the dealers lot every 4 years because there sales plumitt because america remains un-interested. Ford is making major improvements in there future line up. Whether bringing over some europe sales bangers, or re-creeating the taurus with the sh0 or the fiesta/verve. Or the f-100 which will take the place of the completely outdated ranger. everything ive seen in the works is awesome. Especially compared to a cobaly *Cough* i mean cruse or the volt? GM owns 12 companys and none of them are worth the hype. With there future concepts i see a dim future on GM’s side of town

Here’s something else interesting I found.
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/toyota-suggests-potential-partnership-with-ford/2620/

You made a statement saying gm trucks are better because they last 1,000,000 miles on the same engine tranny. Let me repaste you must not be wearing your glasses.”thats why they get 1 million miles on them with the original engines and trans” So what your saying is that all of them dont get 1,000,000 miles off the original engine or trans?? OK so then you would agree that 99.9% of them wont even come close to that mile mark right? So what your speaking on is .1%. So what your telling me because .1% or even less could possibly get 1,000,000 miles, and that makes them better built trucks???? Are you insane? its not your fault, they say you recieve your mental ability from your mothers father, its also safe to say that he prob wasnt that bright. The ford f-150 has BEST in class PAYLOAD. BEST in class TOWING! Ya know, the things trucks are used for. The F150 has never been beat in sales once, not once in the last 32 years. Its been the best selling “Vehicle” in the world for a numerous amount of years. So i guess america ya know 99.9% agree, its to bad your that .1%

Monte, that’s very funny.

whats funny is it’ll never happen. Thats funny

What pissed me off in that article monte gave us is that Mulally considered buying a toyota, sorry, lexus (overpriced toyota). This guy is the head of Ford and thinks about buying from a foreign company? I could see him wanting a corevette or viper but a lexus? That just makes me want to yell “screw ford” even louder.

Toyota wanted them to beg for it. Thats what made me laugh. Or maybe Ford is trying to be the AMC of the modern age, by taking other companies stuff and mixing it all up in one to make their own.

ihustle, you almost sound like a commercial, but alot better than Toby Keith’s “I’m a Ford truck man” crap. I hate Toby Keith. If Ozzy did commercials for Ford, then I might take an interest in one, but Ozzy’s too cool for Ford.

HEMI* Do you know what company mulally came from? He came from toyota. He was actually a big reason they are where they are in americas market. His contract was up and ford grabbed him, hes actually a really smart dude. Thanks for the compliment though i guess im doing my job right

*Night* im still waiting for a reply buddy, i wont post a million ignorant comments after this. Ill give you some more time to try another gm truck that gets a million miles. Or ill give you some time to actually find a reason why gm has better trucks, youll be looking a while.

*hemi* retraction Jim Farley was the fellow from Toyota. My bad. It is sad he was considering a toyota, but alot of that sh*t are rumors and what not. You know as well as i do alot of that sh*t is bs. just like chrysler going bankrupt, last i heard they just got a grand for 23 billion. If they were going bankrupt i dont think any bank in there right mind would accept a loan for that amount.

What the hell what they call the merger company (if it happens) :
Forverlet ??
Chevord ??

Are we going to be driving:
Corstang ??
Expehoe ??
F- 1Avalanche ??

Forverlet and Chevford are still better names than the rumored Apple and Nintendo merger. What would they call that? Nipple?

Cooperation on an engine or two?

Yep, ‘end o’ the world. Everyone grab the wife and kids and head for the bomb shelter you built in the back yard.

By the way, ihustle: While Ford can say it has the best selling truck BRAND, GM outsells Ford in trucks handily. Combine Chevrolet and GMC sales and you’ll see what I mean.

Ford vs Chevy or ford vs gmc ya know brand vs brand. Ford absolutely blows them out of the water. Thanks for coming out

Nightblack_97: exactly. This is what U.S. automakers should be aiming for. I’m very happy to hear that they’re seriously considering this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr4GiQLGdC4
This ones for you, ibot

anything 2 save $, I guess.

da Volt can’t get here kwik enuff.

America always beats Japan and Germany when gions R involved. can it B done w/ robots?

the rednecks will debate Hohn Deere/Internationaml Harvester

wE SHOULD MAKE OUR Iown oants and go commando.

. My nuts don’t mind summer heat, but winter cold is unacceptable!

Buicks R good, no 1der the chinese want themn

Toyota truck would B lucky to see past 200K

what was in those bombs, fertilizer?
the focus is a very good car, the best compact

need4speed is stupid. San Andreas is gr8

Toyota has enuff $ 2 buy tyhe big 3.
Italian rcars R cool

fORD & gm TRIXcks R both good

Mulally (or NE-1 else) should not buy a or lexus (overpriced toyota).

Ozzy Rules. I like “I doin’t know”

We’ll B driving:
Granadsica
and
ProbeStorm
Apple & Nintendo should merge & ,make a DS/iPhone

wow i wish i could convey my thought so eloquently

I think it is a good idea. Neither company has excessive development budgets, so this is a good way to keep development costs down without sacrificing their corporate identities. If it gives both companies the needed technologies to survive these tough times and be around well into the future, then I say “Go for it!”. It’s not like most people who drive Ford Corporation or GM products with the 6 speed automatic know or even care that the transmission was codeveloped by both companies.

This ones for you monte! http://www.ilovegaymen.com

That must come from your personal recomendation.

LMAO! That’s really freakin’ funny!

Hahahaha definately not, you’ve been defending xyunya quite often. I thought that sight was more fitting for your online relationship. Maybe you can even take it to the next level, who knows right. You could get lucky hahaha

site*

There goes ibot with all the gay theories again. What is it with you and trying to gay bash everyone. Sounds like somebodies a little insecure with himself. Come out of the closet already.

Monte cant take a joke buddy? Want me to tame it down, did i hurt your feelings. There you go again trying to turn it around. Take a joke or rub one off to the site and take some tension off herb.

Maybe your small mind could think of a new joke. I’ve seen you use that in so many posts on different threads. But then again everything else you say is repeated garbage, why would this be any different. And why do you keep calling people herbs, what is that supposed to mean?

And no, you don’t have to tame it down, I have a very high tolerance to douche bags.

Monte, you’re such an herbivore.

ihustle, like megeebee said, if you combine GMC and Chevy truck sales, GM trucks outsell Ford trucks. You can talk about percentages all you want and put words in other peoples mouths, but you still cant answer my question to prove a F-150 with a million miles on it, Until you do, you lose the debate. The only reason the rustang does well is because of the female buyers who opt for less horsepower, Everyone know a Camaro is a Mans car when compared to a rustang. Second rustangs are cheaper. Only a real enthusiast can handle The camaros power, Thats why the rustang lost to the Camaro for the last 20 years in racing, the Camaro always made more power. Do you remeber the Mustang Cobra incedent of the late 90s? Due to problems with the 1999 Cobras producing the claimed power (remedied via recall), the 4.6L Cobra was not produced in 2000. Ford replaced the intake manifold, exhaust and computer components to produce 320 hp. Another thing, GM trucks have a higher resale value than Ford trucks, why is that? Like they say they are the longest lasting trucks in the road!

BTW prefer Focus autobox to Astra autobox…

What’s funny is that a “hard working/highly sucessful” sales-man like ihustle finds time to write down his sales pitches on here. Even though his facts are slightly clouded by his Furd dildo stuck up his ass… http://www.trucktrend.com/features/consumer/163_0806_2008_best_in_class_topline_power_puller/index.html

And also with the 3/4 ton GM pickups having 500 lbs more towing capacity, and with the GM pickups having 6 speed trannys and better fuel economy only tards with no sense of research buy Furds. They just go into the dealership and nod at ihustle’s commercials.

No matter what you do, Shish Kabob, the iRobot will never listen. He knows nothing other than his brochures that he has scanned into his flash memory.

Best selling truck in the world! Actually best selling “Vehicle” HAHAHA So if gm sells more trucks why havent they claimed it? Dont you think they would love to take that away from ford??????? I know for a fact they would, if they could, which they dont or we would of heard about it. BEST SELLING TRUCK IN THE WORLD!!! No one has ever, and will ever take the title away/. Thanks for trying though I know alot more then the brochures, i proved that time and time again and it’s getting a little monotnous. Unlike you herbs i dont have the time to repaste threads, or go to youtube to find a video with the f-150 towing the sierra or whatever they call there pos’s, around the track like a fuc*ing bi*ch
The facts are GM is in far worse shape then ford, and only a fool would take them on. Have you seen there upcoming cars, cruse and the volt? Yeah there going to do real well. GM owns 12 companys and they all LOSE MONEY!!!!! Every one of them. They dont dominate any country, at least ford has europe. #1 truck in the world. Most sold sports car of all time.*MUrdered* IF the camaro is so great, how come they discontinue you it EVERYTIME. Wait i know why the american public is un interested in it by the 4th year. You cant tell me sh*t. If they were selling that many it wouldnt of been absent for the last 8 years. The camaro is a joke and so are there trucks. 100% sure the edge is the #1 selling cuv in the market right now. Focus is #1 small size sedan for domestics. GM DOESNT HAVE one #1. WTF are you talking about? I can tell why all you guys are bloggers. You sit on your computer “Chatting” like herbs, its like a fan telling jeter how to play. No one cares what you guys think, your opinions go un heard!!! No one gives a sh*t what you guys think. You sit at your computer n try to type like you know something. NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!! think of it like this, i speak to 3 customers a day. 15 roughly a week. Thats 60 a month, that leave my dealership knowing whos the best. You guys only talk to a screen and your opinions go unheard. looks like im getting the word out and you herbs are sitting at you computer with your thumb in your butt.

Actually GM has claimed it, I saw a three page ad in Automobile Magazine where the said more people buy their full sized trucks than any other brand.

PROVE IT Its funny how you guys look for outs “FULL” size trucks thats comparing the F250 vs there. GM also combines sales. THE F150 vs there truck the F150 blows them out of the water. IF you read anything ive stated the F150 is ATHE BEST SELLING TRUCK. Prove to me that GM has claimed that they sell more then the f150 wait you cant because its no existent. Thanks for trying

GM sells more light duty pickup trucks 1500/2500/3500. Ford claims F-series, not just F-150, but the f-series, which includes medium duty trucks. So GM sells more 1500/2500/3500 than ford does f150/250/350. I guess it’s because they are better, longer lasting trucks. That ad also stated they are the least expensive to own and operate. So suck it ford and suck it ibot

We’re all herbivores! iHustle said we’re all herbivores, so it must be true!

suck it? No thanks. Prove that add, link us. Other then that opinions are like as*holes. Beat dont get upset that my paragraph hit close to home. Let me repaste real quick for the re-cap.
No one gives a sh*t what you guys think. You sit at your computer n try to type like you know something. NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!! think of it like this, i speak to 3 customers a day. 15 roughly a week. Thats 60 a month, that leave my dealership knowing whos the best. You guys only talk to a screen and your opinions go unheard. looks like im getting the word out and you herbs are sitting at you computer with your thumb in your butt.

You know I just say things because they are funny. Just like you’ve never heard the term “horse’s ass,” we’ve never heard the term “herb.” WTF is that? I made it have my own meaning, and changed it to herbivore. That way it’s about as bad as calling you a homosapien, and it’s pretty funny to boot.

Oh, and you seem to spread plenty of your propaganda here as well. The only difference is that none of us are buying it.

I LOVE CABBAGE!

non of yous? You mean “Bloggers” HAHAHAH hold on i need everyone to c this……………….. HAHAHAH you really have to be kidding me, “None of us” I talk to people, you talk to a computer. My words are 1000 times more effective then yours. DO you think i lose sleep not having “Bloggers” acceptance?????????? HAHAHAHAHA That just made my week.

Monte still looking? I know you have all the time in the world but when you live in the world of make believe its hard to find facts that are opinions. The only reason you even said that was to disagree. If your going to disagree then obviously you have to back up what you say. I dont need toi back anything up because everyone has seen fords commercials where they claim the title. If GM has which obviously they havent, thered be proof.

…and you only speak to 3 customers a day? Must be a small dealership…or because it’s junk.

HBC do you ssell cars? Obviously you dont or you would understand. WHen there are 15 sales man on the floor and each one talks to 3. Thats 45 fresh customers a day. THATS ALOT! nice try though you get a B for effort. Hold on i understand why you have no idea what a high traffic store recieves.
NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!! think of it like this, i speak to 3 customers a day. 15 roughly a week. Thats 60 a month, that leave my dealership knowing whos the best. You guys only talk to a screen and your opinions go unheard. looks like im getting the word out and you herbs are sitting at you computer with your thumb in your butt.

No, I’m not a sales-person, but I do converse with some good ones…ones that sell real trucks (GM’s if you didn’t get it).

hahahah that sucks the the f150 is the best sold “Vehicle” in the world. Sucks that GM doesnt have ONE BEST SELLER. N the truth is you dont know anyone, and you are a “Blogger” outsider looking in. i actually am in the buisness talking to real people. You converse with good ones HAHAHAHAHAH Thats funny to mean aka blog with them. Which there lying to. Im happy with my product. Ford as a single company sells more the chevy, and ford vs gmc we sell more then them. So again im left laughing my way to the bank with my massive amounts of commission. Thanks for trying though, valiant effort

I love it! This guy gets so uptight.

HBC very dissapointing i thought i would recieve a reasonable comeback. Since your new to this if you’ve read my posts before. I dont get upset, and could really careless about you “Bloggers” Because in the real world you get mocked, for being anti-social nerds. I get hot chicks, condo on the water, great salary, nice car. Theres no need for me to b upset with anything. I find it hilarious that not one of yous are in the buisness and your so opinanated, when obviously your opinion goes on def ears

What’s really funny is that you have twice as many posts in this thread than I do, and you say that WE are the bloggers. Your clients might buy a $33,000 truck every few years, but my clients spend at least that each week. I just got finished speaking with a client, in fact. Maybe you’ve heard of D R Horton, the largest home builder in the country? That’s who just walked out of my office very happy at the video footage we did of their event. So who’s talking to a screen, you with 22 posts, or me with 12?

And don’t go off on that “in the business” crap. That’s like saying the person at the airport that checks your bags onto your flight knows more about airplanes than the weekend hobbyist pilot with his own Cessna.

i SELL THE PRODUCT. DUmas* i dont set appointments hahaha

You have no idea how much you just added to my point.

You make videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you prove my point every morning you wake up and touch your keyboard buddy. WHats funny with my profession i should be on this site. WIth yours you should be on a camera blogging post, ya know something you know about, that deals with your profession. HAHHAHAHAH Thanks again for making a mockery of yourself it gets better and better with each word you type

Thats like me trying to tell you which camera is the best. my opinion would be invalid because you actually deal with cameras in your line of work. SImilar to myself with automobiles. Your opinion is invalid camera man, you are not in the buisness. Name dropping get you no credit or respect. I sold a car to Maury, do i name drop for acceptance.

Actually, if you had an opinion about cameras, I would listen. I have no idea who else is a hobbyist, and I don’t sell cameras. That’s where you go wrong. EVERYONE has experience in one way or another. Assuming someone doesn’t have any knowledge or experience of a subject is just plain foolish. I don’t sell cars. That is true. But I drive a hell of a lot of them, ranging in size from the Smart ForTwo to full size transit buses. I’ve fixed my own vehicles, restored classic cars in my off time, and participated in sanctioned drag racing and circuit racing. I’ve swapped engines out of Volvos and honed cylinders on a Chevy 350. I’ve done all sorts of things with cars. If you told me anything about a Panasonic P2 or a Red One, I’d listen. You know why? Because it would be experience that I have not had yet, that’s why. You, on the other hand, shut out all other opinion except your own, because you are “in the business.” My point that I made (very well I might add) is that you are only a small part of the “business” that you are in. You are among a whole bunch of enthusiasts, you know, people that actually drive what you sell. Saying we don’t know what we’re talking about is like saying a weekend Cessna pilot doesn’t know a damned thing about airplanes. That’s just a foolish way of thinking. You never know where experience or ideas come from, and shutting them out for whatever prejudiced reason is just plain stupid. Whether or not anyone should be on this site has nothing to do with profession at all. I’m here because I like cars. I’m assuming you’re here because you like cars. Everyone is here because we all like to talk about cars. If you joined Creative Cow or Apple Discussions group, I wouldn’t tell you to take a hike because you’re not “in the creative business.” You are very foolish for thinking you can say that to us.

I am not foolish at all. I have a valid point. Its hard for me to even listien to an opinion when i feel that i know more then someone. Or even the fact that people are shooting opinions on a topic, where really there opinions are invalid. I will continue to say whatever i want because i live in america. Theres nothing you can do about it. If you dont agree with me thats fine, dont comment on my opinions. I feel its very funny that everytime i post the same guys are bashing me, im no punk and retaliation is second nature. DOnt stick your hand in the fire if you arent ready to get burned. If you disagree with my posts dont reply. I never reply to anything you say or bash you first. SHow the same respect. Everything i said before i meant, i can’t take opinions of “BLoggers” who tell me what trucks the best. Your opinion is invalid. If my truck is the best selling truck of all time that means america shares the same opinion as me. Sales due the talking. If you disagree thats fine, i have the best selling truck and america proves who they like more for the last 32 years. Id rather have the masses then some bloggers acceptance.

WTF? Read my post again, dude. And this time, read more than just the very last line.

nahh im good

ihustle all this talk about Ford trucks, and yet you don’t mention how horrible Ranger sales have been? The Chevy Colorado/GMC Caynon outsell the Ranger! When was the last time the Ford Ranger has been redesigned? 15+ years ago? LMAO, save yourself the embarresment, and quit putting down GM. As long as it’s domestic, we are all on the same side.

ihustle: Are you sure you don’t get uptight? You seem to be pretty passionate about getting your point across to a bunch of people who you don’t care about (”bloggers”). Because from where I sit, it looks like a guy sitting in his office at a Ford dealership because he couldn’t make it doing anything more important with cars/trucks such as racing or development or anything else. So instead he settled for a car/truck dealer. I don’t know about you, but of all the people I talked to I can’t really think of anyone who “enjoys” talking with a sales-person (especially one of your arrogance). So when it comes down to it, all you are is the middleman between Ford and the consumer. You read their pamphlets and their bulletins and memorize all their bull**** and repeat that back to the customer. If you were really a “sucessful businessman” you would OWN your own dealership instead of just being a sales-person for some guy who works with Ford to sell vehicles.

murderedout: I agree, as long as it’s domestic (and if not built here, monies come back to the headquarters here) we should all be on the same side. But that has nothing to do with someone so arrogant and ignorant that they are completely blind to everything else around them. I don’t think anyone on here dislikes ihustle because he sells Furds…imo, we dislike him and argue with him because he’s a jackass…and because it’s a riot!

Amen to that, Hbcbob3!

HBC i have a respectable job, and i take pride in what i do. im 23, by american standards am i supposed to own a dealership? i dont have a rich daddy, i live on my own and support myself, and there is certainly no shame in that. If your trying to put me down personally you’ll have to type something better then that. FYI i am one of the top sales man in the ny nj region and im coming into my second year. If you ask me i am doing exeptionally well for myself. I am not one to get my hands dirty, i can make more money in a day then you can in a week just by using a few words. No swet, or stress. If you were half as good at anything as i am with selling cars, you would be able to take pride in things you do. Money makes the world go round and not everyone has the ability to raise enough capital to starrt a dealership. I would say the majority of america couldnt, so does that make me less of a man? Im not quite understanding so your not just bashing me your putting dopwn the majority of america. I have a condo on the ocean, private beach, nice car and a slamming girl. If you ask me im living the american dream. The difference between you and i are pride. I have no shame in telling anyone what i do and where its at, you on the other hand are a coward. Why the fu*k would i want to be a race car driver????HAHAHA i dont even know how that could be considered an insult but o well. Thanks for trying though theres always next time kid

Did i ever speak on the ranger? Thats like me commenting on something you never said and trying to prove a pint. that makes no sense if you read any of my previous posts on the ranger i am not very happy with it. The f100 will be arriving shortly and it will dominate very similiar to the f150 with full size trucks

ihustle, you need to read carefully, I said why didn’t you speak on the Ranger? Then I made my point because it has horrible sales! None of your previous posts states anything about the Ranger. FYI, there is going to be no F-100, I know this because I live in Michigan, and my friend works at the Ford Proving grounds in Romeo,MI. He said Ford still hasn’t made up there mind yet, if they want to redesign it, or scrap it all togather, because of the high fuel costs.

Oh…you’re from NY/NJ. It’s all starting to make sense now…I used to live in the dirty Jerz. You’re a ****y yuppie who has never touched a shovel or rake in your life with, yeah, probably a pretty hot girl. You care more about her looks and your own looks than anything else. Little do you know she’ll probably up and leave your ****y ass for some older guy who, God forbid, looks better and makes more money with a bigger beach house and sexier car than you. But you’ll be ok, because she was just a piece of ass and you can find hotter. You have no idea who I am or where I work or what I make, so I don’t know how you know how much money you have to make in a day to make more than I do in a week, but ha, whatever. I’m not gonna waste my time trying to tell you everything that is wrong with you because you aren’t going to listen or care anyway. I just find it funny that you have to divulge your personal life (if it’s not something from a fairy tale chick flick) to try to prove to me that you are better at life than I am. Just by the way you talk/type, to to pretty much everyone, I KNOW that I’m doing better than you are, son. Haha…

And by the way…that V-6 Mustang is not a “nice car”.

Listien you attack me personally, i will absolutely defend my personaly life. My life is the “Fairy tale” and theres no shame in my game buddy. C*cky and proud, if you were half the man i was you might be important. Your absolutely right i dont care what you say and i never will. You dont matter, your a f*cking blogger that has nothing to do with a car buisness. Your a fu*king fan. Want an autograph? It would be the only thing worth wild in your pathetic life. Dont get jealous i pull hotter bit*hes then you dream of. Im proud to be from Jersey, and i can see why a punk as* like yourself hated here. Most likely tormented and picked on. Moved to a state with lots of woods where you could get away from civilation. All your points are invalid and are going on def ears. thanks for wasting your time though, we all know you had nothing better to do anyway

Murdered* You contradicted yourself in your comment, what can i expect from a dumb as* right? let me repost
“there is going to be no F-100,” Then you said
“He said Ford still hasn’t made up there mind yet, if they want to redesign it”
So how the f*ck to you know for a “Fact” that the f100 isnt going to production. I PERSONALLY KNOW FOR A FACT that the f100 is going to hit production and the only thing that might change is the name. I went to a ford meeting in las vegas two months ago where they adressed the issue. Your a fu*king dumbass and think before you contradict yourself. You seem to b your own worst enemy.

ihustle = 33 posts

beatusmongous = 18 posts (including this one)

murderedout = 16 posts

hbcbob3 = 9 posts

monte = 10 posts

…and WE’RE the bloggers?

your dam right, i would have to post so much if i wasnt attached with each thing i write. Thanks for the concern beat, be at peace with failures and dont bring bad karma on the sucessfull professionals in the world. We wouldnt want to turn out like you Thanks for taking the time to count all the posts, that says alot about how important you are HAHAHAHAHAHA

attacked*

ihustle, I find it ironic that you say I contradicted myself, when you said “I PERSONALLY KNOW FOR A FACT that the f100 is going to hit production and the only thing that might change is the name.” THE NAME? LMAO, you choked on your own penis. Second, I dont think anyone on here believes a word that you type, I bet you still lives with your parents in there basement and you’re still a fat virgin, who wacks it to shemale porn. Any car salesman, who can afford a condo on the ocean would not have the time to post as much as you do, It just doesn’t add up. I would trust an actual Ford worker who works in the Motor Capital of the world, than a wannabe salesman, from Trashy NJ.

Sorry ibot but i was on a road trip today to the twin cities for important researce on new diesel technology coming out. Who’s the tourist now. You want my autograph? You poser biotch. Why don’t you sell some more **** you know nothing about. Blogger douche. If you’re living the dream, I don’t want to sleep.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA find the need to explain yourself to me monte? Must be getting under the skin. Good my job is done. THanks for participating

*Murdered* The f-100 will be hitting production, or should i say new small size truck. WHat do you have to use my comments to make yourself look better? Your whole life is a contradiction. It adds up believe me id give you the address but i have nothing to prove especially not to a “BLogger” What’s a shemale? You must be doing some research. Whats your obsession with penis and shemales???? Dont bring your fetishes to the forum buddy. I am not a wanna be salesman, ask your comrads, im the real deal buddy recognize when you see me homo. Not fat and no virgin must be your mirror projecting your own self image. Nice come back though, you couldnt argue my points so you attack me personally. WHich doesnt really matter, because i get The hot chicks son One day you can be like me, just hit the gym, be confident in what you have, and trash bloggers like yourself on the regular

The pot is calling the kettle “black”.

This sheltered kid is boring me…doesn’t even know what a shemale is. It’s called “context clues” champ. Don’t they write tv shows about ****suckers with all kinds of material goods but insecure with himself that he’s got to defend it to a bunch of people on a car blog. ifagget must be the basis of this show…

Beat make yourself usefull and go count some posts hahahaha
hbc* Sheltered????????? Your a fuc*ing fan, im in the buisness. Your just a bi*ch at hes computer, spitting out opinions. When in reality no one cares? Who the f*ck are you anyway??? You have nothing to do with these companys or there daily operations. Dont get pist off becaus YOU KNOW WHAT A SHEMALE IS!!! Not my problem i don’t associate with wierd fetishes. Whats funny is im the co*kiest sob youll ever encountered, i m not insecure by any means, thanks for the concern though Im the real deal buddy, i dont have to defend anything. I sleep fine at night with or without any of your nerds opinions. C theres a difference between you and I. I dont talk about it, i am about it. WHile your wasting your time Chatting with the bloggers of lln, half of which, are underaged and cant drive yet. Im actually in the real world talking to customers, and relaying the good word. I make things happen, i talk to REAL PEOPLE you talk to your computer HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ihustle, says he’s the real deal when he has the most posts of anyone in here. Anyone who posts that much don’t get any vagina. More like you get the hot little boys that you molest, “SON”. What points if any have you to argue? NONE! I guess that bad pollution from all the trash in NJ, is deforming and degrading your mental abilities to think. You flip flop your stories and others, and laugh at you’re own comments while everyone is laughing at you, cause you don’t have a life. “when you reconize you see me homo? Why are you calling yourself a homo?LMAO, so you are coming out of the closet eh? LOL. What a fagget you are ihustle, change you’re name to ifagget ot ilazy, because that’s what you really are and the truth will come out sonner or later. I bet ihustles gym is the Couch, chips and channel changer. You’re really going to need some Vagisil for you’re sore whining pusssy after this one. PWNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Someones getting mad??? So wait if someone posts on here they get no pus*y????????? WTF kind of statement is that? Thats honestly makes no sense at all. You keep confusing your personal life with mine So wait whats this about little boys? That is absolutely disgusting, i would be ashamed to even say that. When you think of a kid, is it sexual thoughts??? I would never even think to put them in the same categorie and its quite repulsive, i cant expect much from a GED education. Vagisil is what? See my chicks are fresh and clean no vagisil needed. Must suck finding that in your gf’s medicine cabinet next to the vasoline HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA”PWNAGE”!!!!! yeah good one makes alot of sense hahaha. I feel like insulting you is almost worthless, because your so incredibly dumb, border line retard, that your by far your own worst enemy. Are you counting posts now to??? Must have tons of time on your hands. Wait so because i post, im not the real deal???HAHAHAHA Your similar to my little brother, you can say anything you want, to you it makes sense. When in reality you have no valid response to anything. Please keep posting, ive never had so much material to feed off of.hahahahahahaha Keep them coming buddy your batting 1000

Well you know what ihustle…I’m the Cheif CEO of a major corporation. One of which you’ve never heard of. I make a million dollars every 30 minutes. I once had lunch with the Chicago Bears. I own a Ferarri, BMW, GMC Duramax, 3 Camaros, a Ford GT, a Peterbilt, 8 different motorcycles, a yacht, a lake house in Texas, two greyhound buses, 15 four wheelers, 9 dirtbikes, over 80,000 combined acres, two other mansions, and a total of about 5 swimming pools. I have a lady in every state who can suck me off whenever I want, I once ran down an ostrich in Africa just because it got a feather on my Armani suit. I’ve climed Mt. Kilomanjaro, cliff dived in Mexico, and hunted Condor in California. I make money like you piss. I have 20 inch biceps and a rock hard ass. I can bench press 700 pounds. My hair is made of silk and I can speak in 20 different languages, even though English is the only one I use. I’ve written 4 books about my journeys and raced in the Tour De France. I own 2 racing teams, one with the IRL and one with F1. I hang out with Jay Leno on a daily basis. I’ve had sex with actual porn stars. I’ve been on dates with Elisha Cuthbert, Amanda Peet and Eva Longoria. I once farted in Nancy Pelosi’s cereal and told her that Fruity Pebbles had a new flavor they were testing. I framed John Wilkes Booth for killing Abraham Lincoln and I’ve met with 3 different Presidents. I’ve ****ed your girlfriend…along with 20 other bitches in Jersey…including your mother. I can run faster than a horse, jump higher than a kangaroo and can go 20 days without sleeping. I have X-ray vision and can lift vehicles with one hand. I own 13 $300,000 combine harvesters and 21 different types of tractors, AND I have beaten every video game known to man. I KNOW THAT I AM BETTER THAN YOU!

…see, I can create lavish stories about myself too, but it doesn’t mean that anyone gives a turd about your pathetic existance. One day, sport, you’ll find out that you are the lowest of the low, and there are PLENTY of people who are a ****ton better than you.

You with your intellegent responses. Theres a big difference. I am not lying, no exagerations, or stretching of the truth. I am at piece with who i am and what i have. I am not settling because mediocracy is not an option. If your ever in jersey ill show you my condo my gf and proof of my job is on my dealership website, with a name and picture. This discussion originally started on me stating i believe that ford is at a better financial stand point then gm and that there future looks brighter. Now im speaking on my personal life which id like to leave personal. I do not judge people, and do not feel like im better then anyone, this conversation has taking me totally out of character with who i really am. I am sarcastic and arrogant, but im at piece with that. I understand my flaws and on a daily basis attempt to make myself better. Im done explaining myself to you, because honestly after i leave work, its about my girl and i and nothing else matters. If i have to be the bigger man so be it, have the last word, say what you must. Honestly its falling on def ears/

HAHAHAHAHA ibot, feel the need to explain yourself. Must be getting under your skin.
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unlike you, I was busy all week educating myself on how vehicles are designed and how they function, not on how to sell them….who knows more again?

ihustle, Making bogus claims that you have a condo on an ocean, as a Ford salesman for only 1 year at age 23 is the hardest Iv’e ever laughed from a post on LLN. Why are you using my comeback material? Come up with you own comebacks. Your not even a challenge to debate. By the looks of your posts, you must be a schizophrenic. Keep tryin! This is too much fun.

BTW, I’m just getting started and warmed up.

Hmm…that last post had a little decency. Maybe he is a human being?

I try to be the bigger man and im given slander and childish remarks in return. I eat chumps like you for breakfast. No need to lye, google earth it champ 33o shore drive apt a-22 highlands nj 07732 guess thats just a fake address right hahahahaha See *MUrdered* i know for a fact that a 23 year old with so much intimidates you and that is obvious, with your ignorance to believe that such a thing is true for a guy as young as i. Theres no reason to compare your short coming with someone else. People and circumstances vary. Im not you our lives are different, were different people. Not everyone is a successfull saleman, there actually very few especially with the economy where it is. Im lucky to have been able to stay a float. Monte i would wipe the floor with you with a product demonstration, you are welcome to the dealership anytime you want for an example. Talk is cheap, b about it son!!!!

You eat chumps for breakfast?

LOL, a product demo. I know things and systems on vehicles you’ve never heard of, that my business. See, the difference is I know why something is better, you say what someone tells you. Do you even know what happens by the time you turn the key of the ford you drive until the engine starts, and what happens when you put it in gear and how that all relates together. Load that on to your hard drive sales bot.

ifagget, i’m not going to google earth it, waste of time, besides yeah, it may not be a fake address, but it may be your parents, or someone else’s address. Anything else you need to get owned on?

owned on? What the hell does that mean. I give you an address and i get owned? I guess nothing you says makes sense, so why should this right? You just end a sentence with owned, warmed up or some other stupid adjective. Very predictable. Of course you wont google earth it, because your afraid of the out-come.Go think of some more childish remarks, maybe you’ll have some sort of inteligence response, i don t count on it
*Monte*Great!!!!!!! You know what happens when no one is caring!!! You know all the sh*t a customer is uninterested in, and things they can’t relate to. Thats why im the salesman. I can c it now, “MR.customer, do you know what happens between the second you turn the key and the engine starts?” Customer:”Of course i dont, and why would i care?”, you know all the shi* that has nothing to do with a customer wants and need. GO change some oil, maybe you can relay to us how you accomplish that. Im sure they’d care HAHAHAH

ihustle, why would I be afraid of you living and mooching off your parents for? You’re a joke! It doesn’t take a bunch of takes or me to stand here in LLN all day, for me to say the truth, okay? You’re drooling, you have tooth decay.Your mouth is open, you’re disgusting, what the **** you eat for lunch? A bunch of sweets or something, What? You munch a bunch of Crunch ‘N Munch?Your tooth is rotten to the gum, your breath stinks, wanna chew some gum? Yes I do sir, what am I on? You sir are on truth serum!

ibot, I agree with you, the customer doesn’t need to know how their vehicle works or give a ****. My point is I know more about why the fords you rave about are better/worse. All you do is read some advertising brochure. You might be a great salesman, I don’t know or care, I’m just saying that maybe alot of what you say is BS and you’re to uneducated to see that.

*Murdered* Again you are soooooo smart!!! I really can’t believe how intelligent you are!! hahaha f*ckin joke is all you are. Again nice come back!!!! I feel like im arguing with a chimpanzee. The only thing that you said that was clear, was i live at home??? Ive been on my own since i was 16 so there goes that prediction. again valiant effort. As for the rest of the conversation, what can i expect from a retard? You dont have the mental capilbilities to defend your self. *Monte* What have i said that was incorrect? Im not understanding your arguement. Besides your personal hatred of me, this is nothing more then a personal attack. I understand that, there is no point though, confusion is more like it. As long as your good at what you do, why do you care? I am uninterested in what you do, because i dont care. Your obsessed with my profession, and what i do. If you put that same effort into your job, you might be able to become at least half as successful as me take a break, or have some coffee, your fight isnt with, its with yourself.

I was a general statement of your blind bias towards ford. And I am very successful at what I do.

WTF would i support another brand?????? OF COURSE IM BIAS!!!!! I sell Fords!!! IF you worked for Cocacola, would you give pepsi props??????? You definately would not, especially when Coke signs your checks. That was the most ridiculous statement you’ve made so far. Think before you type. Obviously you dont like me, thats fine. Dont start an arguement over nothing, thats foolish and immature. Arent you the pot calling the kettle black.. Way out of line.

I’m so sorry I hurt your feelings tough guy. The original discussion was trucks, and I was just proving that you don’t even know why one is better than the other. You just blindly choose your favorite over the other brands because you like it.

Are you talking about the fully boxed framed, that helps stand resistant in the must rugged conditions. Or the monotube shocks that help you hug the road with precisioun turning or the over sized leaf springs that give you that confortable ride. How about that 5.4 triton V8, helping you pull loads of all sizes. Best in class towing and payload. Wait a sec. SO when did i say you hurt anyones feelings? Ohh i forgot you make up statements to make yourself look better. Blindly???? 33 years straight, im selling the best!!!! Your dam right this is about trucks and i have had the best truck for 33 years!!!!! valiant effort though

Do you even know what a monotube shock is?….no you don’t. They are nothing new, they’ve been around for decades. Ford just says that to act like its some new great sh1t they just came out with. It’s just marketing propaganda. Like you said before, the customer doesn’t know or give a sh1t. Thanks for posting the exact crap you were just b1tching about. “Hey Mr. customer did you know this has monotube shocks?…..Customer:I don’t even know what that means, and why do I care.” Sound familiar? And oversized leaf springs are for load capacity, they actually make the ride worse. Maybe you should pick up a book and learn something before you talk. I’ve never seen you post anything other than the same ford ads over and over. So, nice try to you tard, better bring it a little smarter next time.

Are you a salesman? I forget, what would you know what a customer cares about? Its called feature,advantage,benefit. 3 basic rules of selling walk around on any vehicle. Actually the customer does care, thats where your wrong. Whatever i would of said you would of based, because your a pure hater. Make yourself usefull and come change some oil hahaqhahaha nice try again though, your like thomas the tank engine hahahahahah thanks for making us all laugh

You talk to bloggers, i talk to humans. You have not the slightest idea about anything. Maybe tommrow you can pretend to be a racecar driver HAHAHAHAHA

to bad I proved you wrong HAHA, don’t change any oil

AHHH, just got back from Mackinac Island, When was the last time you could afford a vacation like that ihustle? Just goes to show i’m far better off then you will ever be. You been on your own since you were 16? LMAO, i doubt it! keep tryin sucka, cause you will keep on getting owned. You’re debates arent even challenging. It’s like talking with a 5 year old down syndrome kid.