——->Kia and Hyaundai are on the rise……..

last i recall you were all saying chrysler was bombing worse than the other two.. flat dont sound to bad to me, especially by comparison

good to hear about mitsubishi though! looks like theyll be stick around afterall, and the new lancer will boost them even more.

^ One of those sales count for me. Your welcome Mitsubishi.

——->Dodge sales are up a lil bit……Iooove my SRT-4!………..

Chryslers are just sitting on lots, if your interested in anything by them the time to buy is now!! supercheap deals. And the Hyundai Azera is actually a better built car (nice V6)than the new Ford Fusion, go check one out I **** you not. And Audi will be dammed to hell if they dont bring the S3 over. The new A5 will be a bomb, going up against the SL Class, which they will fail.

Get your fugging act together Ford!

Just got my March 07 CR, and the Ford Fusion, both 4 and V6 are recommended buys (particularly the V6) with excellent reliability ratings. Worth looking at if your not that concerned with the “looks” of the car. Not really my taste, but Ford can produce a decent daily driver if they put their minds to it. They should drop that silly Bold Moves campaign and just talk about its ratings (Fusion) to date.

Just remember, one month means nothing. Especially after looking at Mitsubishi and Kia being up 25 percent, that’s easy. Instead of selling 8 each sold 10 last month, half of that was thanks to Andre above. As for the Azera being better than the Fusion, not a chance in hell, I’ve driven both. I do like the Azera, but in no way does it compare to the Fusion. Give me a break.

Nice spin on Honda… you call DCx flat and honda goes back 1.7%? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

lmao..

With one additional selling day in 2007, sales declined 1.7 percent based on the
daily selling rate.

Trucks will be the only thing holding them in for the year.

Oh and for all those that failed grade 1, ford and GM dips this month were in massive part due to reduction in RENTAL car sales.

Where is GM#1forever?? He’s in hiding!! He has no excuses for GM’s woes!! lol lol

Kudos for toyota (even though i hate toyota) and do u know what it means??? They are gonna be #1 in 2007……

Ford is still struggling. I knew that. What really matters is that the 2008 year is gonna be different. Because of the release of the new F-150, 500, Focus, Fairlane, Freestyle, Montego, MKS, etc etc.

i’m kinda suprised with the mitsi, hyundia sales, i think both are ****, design and manufacturing wise, but obviously, a huge market thinks other wise. I think at the time however, mitsu and hyundia have what people want, all cars have good fuel economy and there cheap in comparison, and have very comtemporary styling, nothing very showy. I think GM flat lining it is a huge accomplishment. Even if GM flat lines it for the next 2 years i think the companies accomplished something. They have to be able to stay competitive in the market through this new import, european and asian car phase that American’s and the rest of the world are going through. After those 2-3 years, GM will do one of two things, people will buy there cars because there little phase is over and there going back to american cars, or 2, GM will have cars just as competitive as the Europeans and will be able to compete fully in this field with the Audi, BMW’s and MB of the world and nobody will make a big distinction between buying a Euro car opposed to an American. Personally, i think ford has to much financial damage done to the company to ever really pull out of this tail spin there currently in. They cannot stay at a top spot in car sales any time in the next decade. They need to restructure there entire business plan and focus on making cars that they can sell at lower quantities and have huge hits, without having to sell tens of thousands of the cars. Basically, they need to go back in history, and rebuild the company. They cannot and will not sell the number of cars they have to to be profitable

Where is GM#1 when you need him? even if he was f-ing around.

nothing new…

I can never understand why people enjoy seeing the American companies fail and loose. Its almost like they are happy to see GM, Ford and Chrysler group sales be down. It makes no sence. Of course, they are probably the same people who would never acknowledge that GM,Ford and Chrysler group now build world class cars.

People people people, if this doesn’t start convincing some of you ignorant nay sayers here that Toyota and Honda are the very best, then I don’t know what will. They are having record sales because they are making THE BEST PRODUCTS, GM is losing tons of money, Ford is bombing, and Chrysler while they had a good run there with the 300 and such, hasn’t kept it up. I like Chrysler however, because at least they make some innovative products here and there, GM and Ford however, INEXCUSABLE. It’s really great to see numbers like these, really shuts all the morons up.

Saturn’s numbers will come up if they ever increase advertising for two pretty good products, the Aura and Outlook. And the new Vue will be out later this year, hopefully that will raise sales.

As for the rest of GM, who knows. I hope it goes up, and I believe that it will, but time will tell. The products really are better than they were, it’s just getting that message into consumers heads.

It kinda hurts seeing the home team getting their asses kicked in the game. But we just got through the halftime show. Both teams have regrouped and are out on the field again. We should see what happens by the end of the game (at least 2010). I think we need to see what happens by 2010 to understand what we’re looking at today.
I’m with Jackdev73… It doesn’t make since how some enjoy negative sales reports coming from the American brands. Unless, they’re not in america… this is the Internet, right?

Dammit people, stop buying Toyotas!

GM’s sales are down 19% to 247,000
Toyota’s new record is still short 43,000 units of GM’s ****ty month. So GM Still outsold Toyota on a bad day.

I’m still laughing about them glossing over the fact that chrysler had their best january in 6 years with sales adjusted being up around 1%, but they parade honda who on an adjusted basis was DOWN.

either way, look to 2008 and beond for the bleeding to stop.

^ jonnycat…. think about this….

There’s a new Tundra coming out soon. Also, a new Corolla. Thats why the customers are waiting. Thats where Toyota is 43,000 units short of GM’s total month. If there weren’t any new truck and car coming out, people would go ahead and buy/lease these and in result…. beating GM for January sales!

So breaking it down into brands/marques/divisions…
Jan 2007….

JAN07Rk All’06Rank Marque JanSales Change

1 2 Chevrolet 147,385 -17.9
2 3 Toyota 144,728 11.1
3 1 Ford 130,828 -22.1
4 4 Honda 87,773 -0.2
5 5 Dodge 79,461 3
6 6 Nissan 73,680 8.6
7 7 Chrysler 41,486 -15
8 8 Jeep 35,361 19
9 10 Hyundai 27,721 -8
10 9 GMC 27,369 -2.3
11 11 Pontiac 24,060 -38.5
12 13 Kia 22,524 24.4
13 12 Lexus 22,118 8.0
14 14 BMW 19,761 2.1
15 15 Mazda 19,265 6.0
16 16 Mercedes-Benz 17,069 37.0
17 18 Volkswagen 16,610 2.3
18 19 Cadillac 13,740 -10.5
19 20 Saturn 13,705 -22.2
20 21 Acura 13,017 -10.6
21 23 Mercury 12,604 -1.4
22 22 Subaru 12,074 -3
23 17 Buick 12,013 -32.8
24 26 Lincoln 9,594 2.7
25 27 Mitsubishi 9,383 25.6
26 24 Scion 9,004 -15.9
27 25 Infiniti 8,964 11.3
28 29 Suzuki 8,179 13
29 28 Volvo 7,808 -11.7
30 30 Audi 6,399 5.2
31 31 Hummer 3,980 -26.7
32 32 Land Rover 3,433 -7.0
33 35 Porsche 2,984 -8
34 34 SAAB 2,362 3.3
35 33 MINI 2,050 -30.4
36 36 Jaguar 1,390 -12.9
37 37 Isuzu 500 -29.4

Total 1,090,382 -4.6

Notes: Changes in sales are from Jan 07 compared with Jan 06: some is daily sales rate, some is volume change; Toyota & Scion are separate as are BMW & Mini. Isuzu is exacly 500.

Who are these people buying toyotas?

I miss gm guy. He’s like that Iraqi news minister guy, so hilariously over the top in denial, you almost knew he was in on the joke.

Hello? GMnumberone4ever? No response? Thought so. American Revolution my ass.

I actually applaud both GM and Ford. They are doing what they should have done two or three years ago – stop dumping in the rental fleets. If they had, their results this quarter would have looked much better (although still down). And it’s going to be hard to constantly live with 10-20% declines as they slow rental sales for the next few months, especially with the media looking for the next death and destruction story.

What must be most frustrating for GM is that their new Silverado is flat compared to last year, and trucks don’t end up in a lot of rental fleets. The positive side is that combined, the Sierra and Silverado are above last year and greater than the F-series, which suffered a large 15% decline. So, at least there looks to be marketshare increase. Part of the F-series decline, however, is probably due to a lack of Super Duty pickups in inventory. My guess is that month over month declines in F-series sales will be less than 10% from here on out (although I don’t know that for sure, the Tundra could have a larger impact than I give it credit for).

Think of it this way though, 2008 will look fair to decent for both comapnies with a host of new product out. Comparisons will probably also be easier because of fewer rentals car sales.

I still cannot believe that the Camry sold so many. It’s a good car, but not that good. My experiences with it have not proven it to be worth $4k more than the Fusion and no better, in absolute terms, than the Accord. It kind of reminds me of the domestics in their heydey when they didn’t necessarily have the best product, or did, but weren’t that far ahead of the competition, and yet sold them like hotcakes at equal or higher prices. Turn of fortunes? Will we see a similar role reversal in the future?

“It doesn’t make since how some enjoy negative sales reports coming from the American brands. Unless, they’re not in america… this is the Internet, right?”

I enjoy negative reports on brands that make crap products regardless of where they’re based. They just really deserved it.

Hey,TOZO… what website did you get the numbers from( I know they are correct, as I have seen Most of them on other news sites)? You posted the only numbers I have seen for Suzuki sales, for example, and it would be great to have the link to the site.

Thanks.
take care/not offense.

isn’t freightliner in the count on DCX as well? or it’s just cars on this?

GM’s sales are down 19% to 247,000
Toyota’s new record is still short 43,000 units of GM’s ****ty month. So GM Still outsold Toyota on a bad day.
Comment by jonnycat, posted on February1 at 6:10 pm

Absolutely! Just another anti-american liberal media bias distorting facts in a lame attempt to paint a David-son vs Goliath-Motors story…

It doesn’t matter how many cars you make, the important thing is whether the company makes a profit or not.

Jon.

Toyota continues to roll along. Just a matter of time before GM’s undeserved reign at the top of the sales charts comes to an end. I know my friends and family members that own Toyotas are happy with them so they will remain loyal to the brand for good. To them, there is no reason to stray from something you know to be high quality and durable only to take a chance on an unproven domestic in which the horror stories still echo today.

Toyotas are not my cup of tea and I’ll probably never own one, but I can understand the draw.

This is a Global economy. It doesnt matter that they are american companies or japanese companies or german companies. Portions of money from sales will always be dumped back into the us. I’ll root for the american companies when they pull their heads out of their asses and produce some good products. They could start with producing some real products worth while. Such as cars getting in excess of 50 MPG. Do that and ill do a cheer!

American REV(erse)olution.

^ lol, Nice

why is gmnumber1 not posting in times like these… he is probably in a coma after he read it

where is gmnumberone now???

probably signing up a new account under GMnumber2…

LamborghiniZ-
Sure it shuts up people like GMnumber1 but, it keeps morons like you talking. Toyota/Honda arn’t as good as you all say they are.

GarbageMotorsCo-
I would like to see if Toyota can stay as the number one auto corportation for over 76 years. The bigger they are the harder they fall. GM has shown this…its only a matter of time before it happens to Toyota. So that same logic is why I have always purchased a GM vehicle. They are proven reliable to me and, are built like tanks. Unless they piss me off, I will always buy a GM product. GM’s cars need to be better in every aspect to any Toyota product in order to get people out of them and back into a Chevy/Pontiac/Buick…etc. Every new vehicle that they come out with is that much closer to that goal.

The thing that most of you have over looked is that GM’s sales are down predominately because they have really cut back on sales to rental fleets. Sure sales will be down but, they will be making more money per model line and improving the resale values of their vehicles.

All GM has to do is be able to start netting only a $1000 profit per car. If you were to use January as an Avg for the entire MY07, GM would be a $3billion in the black.

All the market is doing is settling. It is like pouring sugar in a bowl, you’ll have a peak in the middle until you shake it up and it smooths out. If people think Toyota will keep rising and take all of the market share, your retarded. There will be a day when toyota starts losing their market share to companies like Kia, Hyundai.

The only reason for concern about GM and Ford is they screwed up basing their profits on x number of vehicles sold vs. a per vehicle profit, once they figure out how to do that they will be fine

In US, GM sells cars branded as: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Daewoo (is it stil sold in US?), GMC, Hummer, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn: 9, often cross-competing brands, 3 of which try to have a slice of the near-luxury market. Toyota sells 3 much better positioned and rarely cross-competing brands. To me it only says that GM has rather poor strategy (and while killing Oldsmobile was a step in the right direction, there are at least 4 more brands that should have been killed long ago). Of course it would alienate current customers, dealers, unions, etc. But at least GM could try to improve their marketing mix…

To GM#1, I noticed that over the last 2-3 weeks I would come to LLN just to read your comments. It’s just like a free comedy club with insult jokes. Good job, man!

LJ! – I pieced the list together from a few different sites – right onto a template so it’s quick.
(I’ve done this before too: First time Ford’s the #3 brand & Toyota’s #2)

btw – well spoken, mujician!

Like Jonnycat says volume of sales isn’t as important as margin on sales, so if Ford and GM are finally eliminating the less profitable sales, cutting capacity and focusing on margins thats a good thing.

Mujician: GM and Ford don’t deserve anyone’s support just because they are American. They need to earn consumer support just like every other company.

Sorry, I got a little out of hand, but does anyone see the point.

I see your point, but they’ve also screwed over a lot of workers and created some really awful products through cost cutting that just shouldn’t have happened. They DO need to earn support, don’t you understand, they’ve been around for a long time, but if they’re not producing adequately, they deserve no break just because they’ve old names. These are companies that did whatever they needed back in the day to get to the top, I was actually reading that a century ago or so GM bought up a lot of the U.S’s railroads simply to deactivate them so people would be forced to buy more cars: that’s sleazy, that’s a low blow, and that’s what they did to survive. They helped to destroy a completely different industry. Now they’re falling in quality, and they’re losing their spot as #1, that’s how the market works.

mujician people bash their own country, as I often bash America, because it is poorly representing the American people right now. In terms of cars, America makes inferior products compared to a plethora of other manufacturers. In terms of everything else, America is an embarrassment right now in a variety of ways, be it us making a fool of ourselves in Iraq, the way Bush really fumbled Katrina and still hasn’t made much headway on that issue, the disgustingly prejudiced conservative beliefs concerning gay marriage, and the blatant ignorance regarding global warming, America has really become something I personally am not too proud of. Maybe if you’d stop insulting everyone that maybe isn’t a naive patriotic such as yourself you’d open your eyes and see some of this

obviously GMisnumber1forever!

I understand your points the Lambo, and I do agree with alot of them. It’s not right what GM did with the railroads and as far as Bush goes, I made sure I voted both times just so I could do my part to prevent him getting into office. Never cared for the bastard. I just feel that no matter what, you do have to stand up for what you are.

come on gm everybody wants to see u keep the top spot, besides the demacrats that is!

Here’s an article that covers some of the issues. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16951193/site/newsweek/

“The Fusion is a Mazda-based product that’s not built in the U.S., [it’s built in Mexico],” says Toyota’s Press. “The Camry is an Ann Arbor-engineered car that’s built in Kentucky. Who’s to say what’s import and what’s domestic?”

Hal-
The profits Toyota makes on the vehicles that people buy still go back to their head quarters in Toyota City, Japan. The profits when people buy GM vehicles goes to their head quarters in Detroit, MI. Oh, and most of Toyota’s research and devlopment is still done in Japan along with most of their production. GM’s R&D is still for the most part done in the United States. GM still produces more vehicles in the United States for US consumption than any other automaker. Also, Ford pumps more money back into the US economy than Toyota/Honda/Nissan combined. That is how you can tell what’s an import compared to a domestic.

For the last time, maybe not. WERE DOES THE MONEY GO???? Yeah, american workers are getting payed for labor, but that profit goes back to foreign companies. And don’t give me the stock holder crap either, because (for example) any american investing in international stocks should be shot. They are some of the riskyest stocks to invest in (Maybe not with Bush in office, LOL) and you are not supporting your own country.

jackdev73: it’s because some of the ****roaches here were problably dropped on their heads a couple of times when they were babies. Don’t mind them, soon enough when their POS cars begin losing wheels, they start rusting all over they’ll know what we mean.

mujician , right on, I feel what you’re saying