Comments on: Spied: GM begins testing turbo four-cylinder engine in large cars http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:05:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: tripleonefive http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376781 tripleonefive Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:58:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376781 jjt thats fancy talk for janitor Take it easy its a car site If you had taken your plurals and possessives as serious in real life as you do on this board you would have a better career jjt thats fancy talk for janitor Take it easy its a car site
If you had taken your plurals and possessives as serious in real life as you do on this board you would have a better career

]]> By: ARMY Strong http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376749 ARMY Strong Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:42:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376749 GNS's are badass ass cars, even today. GNS’s are badass ass cars, even today.

]]> By: jackjimturkey http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376707 jackjimturkey Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:24:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376707 Let's not do this. 1115: There is a rumor going around that the apostrophe is to indicate possesive, not plural. 187out: my stepfather had a grand national. Let’s not do this.

1115: There is a rumor going around that the apostrophe is to indicate possesive, not plural.

187out: my stepfather had a grand national.

]]> By: ScreamingTurbo http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376607 ScreamingTurbo Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:12:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376607 The turbo rocks on my A4. It gives that power boost when needed, and there's no lag. Great fuel economy, to boot. GM should embrace this concept to give thier smaller enigines a power kick. Good fuel economy is nice, but not when the car performs like a brick. The sporty feeling you get from a (good) turbocharged engine, combined with the satisfaction of acheiving decent fuel milage, is priceless. The turbo rocks on my A4. It gives that power boost when needed, and there’s no lag. Great fuel economy, to boot. GM should embrace this concept to give thier smaller enigines a power kick. Good fuel economy is nice, but not when the car performs like a brick. The sporty feeling you get from a (good) turbocharged engine, combined with the satisfaction of acheiving decent fuel milage, is priceless.

]]> By: murderedout http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376563 murderedout Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:13:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376563 It seems like everytime GM puts a turbo in there vehicles, it's Godly fast. I would never underestimate a GM vehicle with a turbo, even with a 4 cylinder. Just look at the Buick Grand National GNX. It was a heavy car with a Turbo 3.8 V-6. Did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds or lower, and beat the Vette in it's day. It seems like everytime GM puts a turbo in there vehicles, it’s Godly fast. I would never underestimate a GM vehicle with a turbo, even with a 4 cylinder. Just look at the Buick Grand National GNX. It was a heavy car with a Turbo 3.8 V-6. Did 0-60 in 4.6 seconds or lower, and beat the Vette in it’s day.

]]> By: murderedout http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376544 murderedout Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:35:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376544 All GM's past turbo cars were among the fastest in the world!! GMC SYCLONE GMC TYPHOON PONTIAC TURBO TRANS AM BUICK GRAND NATIONAL GNX BUICK T-TYPE All GM’s past turbo cars were among the fastest in the world!!
GMC SYCLONE
GMC TYPHOON
PONTIAC TURBO TRANS AM
BUICK GRAND NATIONAL GNX
BUICK T-TYPE

]]> By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376521 oldraven Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:50:40 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376521 Global_Lightning, it was not the first, really. It was introduced at the same time as the Olds F85 Turbo Jetfire. And they were the first Turbocharged Passenger Vehicles. They had been using them in Commercial Trucks in Europe for awhile before that. And I have always wanted a '65+ Corvair Corsa Turbo. Global_Lightning, it was not the first, really. It was introduced at the same time as the Olds F85 Turbo Jetfire. And they were the first Turbocharged Passenger Vehicles. They had been using them in Commercial Trucks in Europe for awhile before that.

And I have always wanted a ‘65+ Corvair Corsa Turbo.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376519 Need4SSpeed Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:47:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376519 Hey Global_lightning, you got any links on the Stage 1 and Stage 2 kits for the LNF? I've checked everywhere and even read there isn't anything out yet for the LNF. I know they have GMPP stage kits for the LSJ though. Thanks! I'd appreciate it. Hey Global_lightning, you got any links on the Stage 1 and Stage 2 kits for the LNF? I’ve checked everywhere and even read there isn’t anything out yet for the LNF. I know they have GMPP stage kits for the LSJ though. Thanks! I’d appreciate it.

]]> By: LaCaLover http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376513 LaCaLover Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:31:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376513 Oldsmobile Cutlass Jetfire, 1962 Oldsmobile Cutlass Jetfire, 1962

]]> By: global_lightning http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376507 global_lightning Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376507 Trivia question: What was the first mass-produced turbocharged automobile? Answer: The Chevrolet Corvair Monza, 1962. Trivia question: What was the first mass-produced turbocharged automobile?
Answer: The Chevrolet Corvair Monza, 1962.

]]> By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376505 oldraven Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:19:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376505 As far as cars go, V8's are good for balls out racing/modifying. As for the other 99% of your driving life, Turbo 4's fit the bill perfectly. Anyone complaining about Turbo Lag should learn to downshift. Congratulation, you just learned how to drive. As far as cars go, V8’s are good for balls out racing/modifying. As for the other 99% of your driving life, Turbo 4’s fit the bill perfectly. Anyone complaining about Turbo Lag should learn to downshift. Congratulation, you just learned how to drive.

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376497 Need4SSpeed Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:00:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376497 Yeah from all of the reviews of the Cobalt and HHR SS turbo lag on this is pretty much non existent. This engine utilizes a twin scroll turbocharger and electronically controlled bypass valve, giving it power at very low RPM's. Motortrend got the Cobalt to do 60 in 5.5 seconds and this still achieves 30mpgs, just like scottns said you get both now a days. And for turbo's being boy racerish, umm I guess the Buick Grand National was boy racerish and so are the BMW's and Mercedes and Audi's that use biturbos, and what not right??? Yeah from all of the reviews of the Cobalt and HHR SS turbo lag on this is pretty much non existent. This engine utilizes a twin scroll turbocharger and electronically controlled bypass valve, giving it power at very low RPM’s. Motortrend got the Cobalt to do 60 in 5.5 seconds and this still achieves 30mpgs, just like scottns said you get both now a days. And for turbo’s being boy racerish, umm I guess the Buick Grand National was boy racerish and so are the BMW’s and Mercedes and Audi’s that use biturbos, and what not right???

]]> By: global_lightning http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376494 global_lightning Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:56:28 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376494 The LNF has an amazing torque 'curve'. From 1800 RPM to almost redline, it's a nice and flat 260 ft-lbs. It's compression ratio is 9.2 combined with a moderate pressure turbo; This means it has minimal turbo lag. GM already has Stage I & II kits which get the LNF up to 300 HP with minimal hassle. Also, with 300 lbs less over the front wheels, this car will also have much better handling and braking. GM drivetrain performance data (this is a goldmine for any enthusiast) http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2008/08car.htm The LNF has an amazing torque ‘curve’. From 1800 RPM to almost redline, it’s a nice and flat 260 ft-lbs. It’s compression ratio is 9.2 combined with a moderate pressure turbo; This means it has minimal turbo lag. GM already has Stage I & II kits which get the LNF up to 300 HP with minimal hassle. Also, with 300 lbs less over the front wheels, this car will also have much better handling and braking.

GM drivetrain performance data (this is a goldmine for any enthusiast)
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2008/08car.htm

]]> By: non_biased_enthusiast http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376491 non_biased_enthusiast Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:53:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376491 How could these sedans post numbers in the low 30's when the Cobalt SS with the same engine and a 3,000 lb curb weight gets 30MPG highway? How could these sedans post numbers in the low 30’s when the Cobalt SS with the same engine and a 3,000 lb curb weight gets 30MPG highway?

]]> By: xyunya http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376470 xyunya Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:18:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376470 howsmydriving, you should share your wisdom with Audi, M-B, BMW & Volvo. They keep on building those pathetic cars and selling them. howsmydriving, you should share your wisdom with Audi, M-B, BMW & Volvo. They keep on building those pathetic cars and selling them.

]]> By: SickofGarbageMotors http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376453 SickofGarbageMotors Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:52:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376453 http://malibu.thingzforyou.com/ http://malibu.thingzforyou.com/

]]> By: scottns http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376445 scottns Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:01:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376445 I have a turbo 4 in my 2006 A4. There is no lag and I would hardly call it a boyracer car. Power is very linear. Not to mention 32+ MPG. I have a turbo 4 in my 2006 A4. There is no lag and I would hardly call it a boyracer car. Power is very linear. Not to mention 32+ MPG.

]]> By: howsmydriving http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376430 howsmydriving Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:55:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376430 Granted, turbo's have greatly improved over the years but they're still crap and turbo power is still boyracer bullshit. Granted, turbo’s have greatly improved over the years but they’re still crap and turbo power is still boyracer bull****.

]]> By: hateful83 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376421 hateful83 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:48:05 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376421 The major draw back to turbos for me is the lag. I hate that elastic feeling they can give you. The major draw back to turbos for me is the lag. I hate that elastic feeling they can give you.

]]> By: sharpie http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376399 sharpie Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:32:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376399 FINALLY a good use of SAAB. FINALLY a good use of SAAB.

]]> By: autonut http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376382 autonut Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:41:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376382 The bullshit Lutz was producing during NYC car show clogged Hudson bay. I would imagine GM had few mules to test turbo 4 in larger cars for a while now: Saab 9-5 comes to mind. The bull**** Lutz was producing during NYC car show clogged Hudson bay. I would imagine GM had few mules to test turbo 4 in larger cars for a while now: Saab 9-5 comes to mind.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376373 1c3d0g Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:30:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376373 Hmm...it'll be interesting to see what GM makes out of this one. Hmm…it’ll be interesting to see what GM makes out of this one.

]]> By: eliteski2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376370 eliteski2 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:07:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376370 I agree that 300hp should be the target output for these large sedans. Less might be sufficient for grandpa, but in order to appeal to a broader market the cars have to be fun to drive too. That said, if a turbo four can do the job of a v8, there's no reason to waste the gas. I'd love to see more of this type of development... I agree that 300hp should be the target output for these large sedans. Less might be sufficient for grandpa, but in order to appeal to a broader market the cars have to be fun to drive too. That said, if a turbo four can do the job of a v8, there’s no reason to waste the gas. I’d love to see more of this type of development…

]]> By: Need4SSpeed http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376358 Need4SSpeed Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:28:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376358 Now if they could just get 300hp out of the LNF, this engine would be very practical indeed in some of the larger midsize + sedans. Now if they could just get 300hp out of the LNF, this engine would be very practical indeed in some of the larger midsize + sedans.

]]> By: LaCaLover http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376354 LaCaLover Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:01:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376354 The VW 1.4L TSI twincharged motor is awesome and pumps out 170PS The VW 1.4L TSI twincharged motor is awesome and pumps out 170PS

]]> By: ARMY Strong http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376351 ARMY Strong Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:53:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376351 me neither johnny me neither johnny

]]> By: tripleonefive http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376335 tripleonefive Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:19:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376335 lol oops sorry lol oops sorry

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376328 johnnycanuck Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:08:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376328 Tastes great. Less filling. It's about time the automakers started taking lessons from the breweries. Problem is I never have been much for lite beer. Tastes great. Less filling. It’s about time the automakers started taking lessons from the breweries. Problem is I never have been much for lite beer.

]]> By: 1115isaricedick http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376326 1115isaricedick Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:05:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376326 this is it buddy: http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/toyota/toyota_tundra.htm this is it buddy: http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/toyota/toyota_tundra.htm

]]> By: Blakkarr http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376320 Blakkarr Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:53:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376320 If it is the camshaft then it is an issue with the engine not the platform. Such an obvious discrepancy would never be posted even by LLN and their all too hasty at times staff. GM is not in the habit of building engines that break despite your biases. But we will have the wait and see. It may be too new or "thin" to even report as a rumor. If it is the camshaft then it is an issue with the engine not the platform. Such an obvious discrepancy would never be posted even by LLN and their all too hasty at times staff.

GM is not in the habit of building engines that break despite your biases.

But we will have the wait and see. It may be too new or “thin” to even report as a rumor.

]]> By: tripleonefive http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376293 tripleonefive Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:39:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376293 There is a rumor going around that the Lambda's have a camshaft issue Hmmm Ill have to look for it bc LLN wont post it and Im not like Commo so Ill wait untill its official Im giving you fair warning Prepare your lame excuses now There is a rumor going around that the Lambda’s have a camshaft issue
Hmmm Ill have to look for it bc LLN wont post it and Im not like Commo so Ill wait untill its official
Im giving you fair warning Prepare your lame excuses now

]]> By: mars_Smiley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376291 mars_Smiley Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:37:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376291 turbo four's.... meh turbo four’s…. meh

]]> By: Blakkarr http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html/comment-page-1#comment-376289 Blakkarr Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:36:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-four-cylinder-prototype.html#comment-376289 Lower weight without a loss of power. A winning formula I would say. Lower weight without a loss of power. A winning formula I would say.

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