There using the old 3.9 pushrod instead of the 3.6, not the best start IMO.

Who cares about the V6? Hairdressers?

If they can start the basic V8 model well under 30k, and make it handle, it will be a helluva car!

hi I’m Lambo and this is a great car!!……wait…opps…forgot and saw the Chevy logo. Thought it was a BMW. It sucks!!

BTW – in case anyone was wondering where all the retarded posters are coming from – just noticed (purely by accident of course) that streetfire.net has a leftlane news feed running on the home page

;D

^^ haha. Thats funny.
Good job GM. They are getting better at this whole car thing.
The latest rumor is that the interior is supposed to look almost exactly like the concepts interior. I can’t wait!

Great we got the MSRP for the V6 version. Cuz thats the one I want (rolling eyes). How much is the v8 version going to be?!

It doesn’t matter if the v6 is an old pushrod, it keeps the cost down low. The v8 is the only one that matters.

If it’s going to work, they need to get the Camaro in the showrooms ahead of schedule.

The V8 will be the volume seller, it does not have to be as good as the V8, obviously, but it has to not suck. I wonder if all models will have cylinder deactivation? That should keep the Eco freaks at bay. Hope it doesn’t weigh more than 3600 lbs. too

if its going to work they need the camaro in the showroom yesterday.

They need to start building the damn thing , its getting kinda old…I am sure GM#1’s kids have the poster taped up all over their trailer, hahhaha

I mean the V6 will be volume seller.

Great. 3 years of press releases and “sneak peaks” about how great it will be.

Just like Solstice and Aura.

The constant barrage of “just wait, it’ll be great when it’s here” is tiring.

Hey ALMSfan…GM is in “lightning mode” compared to Ford! All they have on the horizon is the constantly delayed Edge, the watered down Focus, and the blinged up 500. In this case, no news is not good news.

“I am sure GM#1’s kids have the poster taped up all over their trailer” LOL. Don’t tell me he has multiplied!

Can’t wait to see it.

I hope the hoopla makes Corvettes cheaper to get.

this may end up pushing the corvette up market…they will fianly be able to charge more and make the interior nicer!

wow 20inches, its gonna ride like ****.

I agree with ALMSfan. They show the thing so much it’s going to be just another car in two years. Why don’t they just do what BMW does for the new M3? Camouflaged testing away from the eyes although we can more or less guess what it will look like combining other M car’s features (larger fenders, 4 egs. pipes etc.) with a 3 series coupe.

I almost had a heart attack when I first saw the Camaro concept but it kinda started to look like “normal” to my eyes. And they say it’s going to be a 2009. It’s a shame really.

I thought the 2009 Mustang was supposed to get a version of the 3.5L. I think that might negate any refinement advantage the Camaro claims. But, like many Ford and GM launches, they seem to benchmark to their current competitors rather than near future ones.

still waiting to see what the LS2 model will go for.

ah, hell, I’m still gonna get it.

honestly, I don’t see why so many of you are complaining about all the news over the camaro, but then again, I’m pretty excited over it.

Yep- compare the coverage of the new Camaro to the coverage of the Challenger. It’s been all quiet from Dodge. By the time the Camaro comes out in 2009 it will be due for a facelift because we’ve been looking at it for the last 3 years.

omigod they changed the axle centerline so that dubs could be put on the car? I hope dubs are in in 3 years. Remember when gold BBS rims were the rage?

I don’t know about you, but i’m not going back to 15’s. maybe gangster whites will be back?

What do you mean it’s taking forever?? The thing debuted a year ago at the ‘06 Detoit show. Relax lil birdies, The General is gonna feed ya.

Personally, I’m breathing a sigh of relief. There’s usally quite a bit of change from concept to production. Good news. No mater what they do with the price, i don’t think it will have an effect on the Corvette period. GM won’t make that mistake again. These two vehicles are completely unrelated. This Camaro will not be hangin a 1.0 lateral g without some serious modifications.

The price for the v6 version is infact the most important, the car doesnt stand a chance if the base model or their volume model is over priced. And yea its a pushrod motor, so what? GM’s 3800 and the small block chevy are two of the worlds more reliable motors, are their pushrod engines. I dont see why its a big deal.

——>i feelya bb_454

Is there any detail they have missed out on that they haven’t told us about this car? Im well bored of this car now

im in love with this car!

I like very much, sell it for 30000 euroes in europe and they will sell like hotcakes. seriously american car companies get a clue. we want american cars from u dont imitate euro cars or japanes cars. have your own style and just jack up the quality to levels that will put the rest to shame.

“GM sources told the magazine a V6 model will retail from $21,000.”

a “GM ” said he saw some pigs flying too.

3.9L push rod entry level V6 in 2008? Come on GM that’s a joke

Nissan’s new 3.7L direct injection V6 is going to pump out 360bhp I doubt this mullet mobile can do 2/3 of that

So with this change we may see better weight distribution and handling as a side effect?

With 20-inch wheels as standard I’d imagine a lot of speed freaks will want to switch to a smaller 18 or 17 inch size wheel to reduce rolling weight and stress on the suspension.

How many sportscars that AREN’T $100,000+ supercars with ultra lightweight forged rims use 20-inch wheels? I can’t think of any.

Muscle cars like rubber more than low profile.

Just a quick question if anyone could answer..is the 3.9 just a more powerful 3.8 or is it a completely different engine from the 3800 series II in the last v6 Camaro?

oddglat, did you ever think they use a larger engine so they can get cheap power? A bigger engine will give you a whole lot more torque with a whole lot less work, keeping costs down. And I’m pretty sure that if GM wanted to give the V6 360hp, they would, but that would be a stupid decision because it would no longer be competitive with the Mustang V6. Why spend the extra money to make your car sell less? People who buy the V6 don’t give a **** about horsepower.

“deutschetouring1337″,: why? Can you enlighten us with your expert opinion on why you think that will be the case?

MikeFX -

If success for GM on the car(s) coming forward is measured by outpacing FoMoCo, then it’s gonna be some barren years for the domestic industry REAL soon.

Each one operates differently (FoMo, GM, DCX)…Of the three, GM recently is on a tear showing something that’s going to be produced (Solstice, Aura are best examples), but we see it on the show circuit for 3 years and when it finally arrives it’s old news and not current. Sky/Solstice is a fine car for 3+ years ago, but after ALL the hype it’s pretty cheesy. Same with Aura. Might have been more competitive if it went on sale 6 mos after it was first shown. Now, 2-3 years later it’s a fine car, but no match for the Accord or even Kia Optima.

Unfortunately, the Camaro is gonna be the same thing. It’ll be trotted out everywhere (more Woodward, NYC, Chicago, LA, Detroit, all NASCAR events, kid’s birthdays, 4th of July, Arbor Day, VE day, Bat Mitzvahs) for hype over the next three years.

This is gonna be an awesome car. And for all of you bashing it, I know you wouldn’t say a damn word if you were given one.

I haven’t owned a single car I was so happy with in OEM condition that I wouldn’t change it. It should still be very good, yes.

monkeybars, you’re right; oddglat clearly does not understand the concept of using big V8s instead of expensive overwrought sixes. The ease with which GM can just drop in one of its proven V8s into any engine bay large enough to fit it is a foreign concept in the realm of the soulless import crap that is the holy yardstick of how good a car is. Along those same lines, can someone please explain why pushrod engines are somehow unacceptable now? That it is old technology is not a valid argument. It still works, and works just fine.

im not sure if this car is going to handle like ****. cuz first off they raised the roof life, and they made the car less wide both off which make a car worse on a skid pad. but they also moved the front axle forward with out making the car longer which is a good thing.

The concept camaro is 78 inches wide. A slight reduction will not hurt all that much.

YAY!! cars always work with big wheels. does this mean its gonna be the new gen pimp mobil?

bigjob I find it comforting to know that I have such influence over people like you, it pleases me that I can get on the internet, go to this site, look at a thread I’ve never looked at before, and find you already ****ting yourself because you can’t handle my opinions. Look like i’ve got to you…I hope you can get over me not believing what you do, that is, after all, what opinions are for

they should never have released any information on the car until it was ready to launch….it is getting old now.

The 3.9? Bah! I’d rather have the DOHC 3.6 liter V6. Much more sophisticated.

As long as the car will offer the LS2 under 30k, I would take it over the Mustang. And plus, the LS2 is better than any V6 you can throw at it. The fuel economy to power ratio cant be beat. I foresee many N/A upgrades done to this immediately.

dont forget that the car will probably lose the sweet HID xenon projector headlamps and foglamps.

If its gonna loose the HID’s, I’d rather see the headlight covers like the old maro’s. That would look even meaner than some cheap projection lights.

This car looks more like the GM flagship sports car than the current Corvette. With a Z06 Corvette engine option, this Camaro is worthy.

i saw this car in person at an autoshow and i talked to some people accompainied to chevy and they said that the mirrors were most likely to change. i could see that cause the mirrors IMO were way too skinny and i couldnt picture myself changing lanes in that thing.

Looks cool but will it perform in other than straight line situations? Dubs weren’t beneficial to handling prowess last time I checked.

Just because 20″ wheels will fit, it doesn’t mean they will standard on all models..

“oddglat clearly does not understand the concept of using big V8s instead of expensive overwrought sixes.”
By “overwrought”, do you mean well-tuned? Just because an engine wasn’t pulled out of a truck and makes most of its power at higher revs, doesn’t mean it’s overwrought.

“The ease with which GM can just drop in one of its proven V8s into any engine bay large enough to fit it is a foreign concept in the realm of the soulless import crap that is the holy yardstick of how good a car is.”
Yes, because using larger, heavier engines rather than smaller, lighter engines (that make the same power) *really* improves driving dynamics. Right? BMW should take note. (Note: yes, I am being sarcastic)

Monkeybars is right on the money, though. And I bet this car will handle like a turd on wheels with 24″s.

The idea that today’s pushrod V8 is somehow ‘low tech’ is not an accurate perception.
I also doubt that too many customers will opt for the maximum wheel size option.
In addition, why slam GM for the report? LLN decides what to publish and what not to publish. GM may only be answering questions the press/public asks of it.
This is a great looking car, and will sell well weather its reported every day from now till 2009 or not. IMHO.

The 3.9 is NOT an evolution of the 3800. It makes 240hp in it’s current form but I would be surprised if they dont get another 10-20hp from the engine for the Camaro. Another reason this engine is being used is because it can be equipped with AFM to save gas. Also, two V6s are going to be offered and I bet the 2nd one will be a 275-300hp version of the 3.6 DOHC V6.

Its a great car, and the guys saying the info is getting old…..just stop reading then.

You import lovers; you’re out of your element. The pushrod technology is used in the world’s most renowned racing known as NASCAR–enough said.

Kudos to GM for pushing the envelope and going out of their way to make sure you can fit 24’s. It’s all about big displacement engines and big rims. You hippies enjoy your gay hybrids.

^^^ LOL devilsadvocate hit he nail on the head ^^^

Pushrod engines do rock! But, I think it’s unfair to assume that only imports have OHC engines. Ford runs ‘em, so does Mopar. I think it is cool that GM is keeping it “real”, tho. That took some balls.

I don’t care about the HP/Liter idea too much….that’s BS. But, HP/lbs do matter. OHV engines tend to be lighter (if made of same materials) and more compact.

Funny how a lot of you are already complaining about how dated it will be and it hasn’t even been built yet! Who knows what will change by 2009. Personally I don’t care for it because it’s a retro but they did get one thing right… The wheels! A wheel that fills the wheel well with low pro rubber works every time. I can’t wait to see all the old times slap on some 14″ wheels and big ol bubble tires LOL!