Comments on: GM may sell Camaro in Europe http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hal http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267580 Hal Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:42:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267580 I'm pretty sure Rover is Chinese owned now and there aren't any Brits building any. You can spin anything tho - just depends on your view. Heres the real deal on America at war as seen from Europe and just for a laugh. WW1 - late, and not a decisive contribution. WW2 - late, defeated Japan.(USSR defeated Germany) (France and the UK on the other hand entered both wars before they were attacked themselves in defense of other countries) Korea - Stalemate (not offically over even) Vietnam - lost but hey killed 2M vietnamese Grenada - Win. (those cuban bricklayers didn't stand a chance) Iraq1 - turkey shoot Afghanistan - too soon to tell Iraq2 - at this point noone knows how to define "win" it is so screwed up See? Americans think they are all conquering and Europeans think not. I’m pretty sure Rover is Chinese owned now and there aren’t any Brits building any. You can spin anything tho – just depends on your view.

Heres the real deal on America at war as seen from Europe and just for a laugh.

WW1 – late, and not a decisive contribution.
WW2 – late, defeated Japan.(USSR defeated Germany)
(France and the UK on the other hand entered both wars before they were attacked themselves in defense of other countries)
Korea – Stalemate (not offically over even)
Vietnam – lost but hey killed 2M vietnamese
Grenada – Win. (those cuban bricklayers didn’t stand a chance)
Iraq1 – turkey shoot
Afghanistan – too soon to tell
Iraq2 – at this point noone knows how to define “win” it is so screwed up

See? Americans think they are all conquering and Europeans think not.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267489 Stuart Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:21:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267489 To 1952 MG TD Last time I checked the austrailian where part of the british coloney. Had it not been for the English there was probably no chance they would have went to war with you. The only people that actually went to war with you are spain who have pulled out and italy who wants to pull out. Apart from England (god knows why) everyone in europe is against the war. All other non europien countrys in the war were bullied by america into the war. Secondly Rolls parts are all unique and designed and built by the british. Same with TVR, land rover (Apart from engine from Jaguar), most jaguar models, rover and Astom martin. At the end of the day they are still british because they were conceived in England. IF NOT then that would make Chrysler German (Big benefit to Chrysler) and GM is on the verge of being french. To 1952 MG TD

Last time I checked the austrailian where part of the british coloney. Had it not been for the English there was probably no chance they would have went to war with you. The only people that actually went to war with you are spain who have pulled out and italy who wants to pull out. Apart from England (god knows why) everyone in europe is against the war. All other non europien countrys in the war were bullied by america into the war.

Secondly Rolls parts are all unique and designed and built by the british. Same with TVR, land rover (Apart from engine from Jaguar), most jaguar models, rover and Astom martin. At the end of the day they are still british because they were conceived in England.

IF NOT then that would make Chrysler German (Big benefit to Chrysler) and GM is on the verge of being french.

]]> By: interphase http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267447 interphase Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:25:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267447 Clarkson doesn't actually bash all American cars - he just reviews everyday cars based on their suitability for use in the UK (generally none at all), or in the case of sports cars, against their peers. He includes the Z06 on his wishlist of dream cars, and owns a Ford GT. The problem is that American and European cars have completely opposed handling characteristics by design, and so they just don't cross the pond well. It's not that American cars are all bad, just that many are bad for use in the UK and would cost too much to run based on our fuel prices and the way our road tax is calculated. That doesn't mean there aren't enthusiastic owners and fans here, but just that they're in the minority. Clarkson doesn’t actually bash all American cars – he just reviews everyday cars based on their suitability for use in the UK (generally none at all), or in the case of sports cars, against their peers. He includes the Z06 on his wishlist of dream cars, and owns a Ford GT.

The problem is that American and European cars have completely opposed handling characteristics by design, and so they just don’t cross the pond well. It’s not that American cars are all bad, just that many are bad for use in the UK and would cost too much to run based on our fuel prices and the way our road tax is calculated. That doesn’t mean there aren’t enthusiastic owners and fans here, but just that they’re in the minority.

]]> By: BrokenCadillac... http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267444 BrokenCadillac... Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:12:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267444 They'd be better off selling Opel keychains... They’d be better off selling Opel keychains…

]]> By: 1952 MG TD http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267440 1952 MG TD Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:07:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267440 Stuart: 1) The Aussies know what is right and stick by us as well. We appreciate all the sacrifice from all those who have chosen to stand with us. Thank you. 2) The rolls you mention is a derrivative/owned by a german company. Bently is also owned by a german company. IIRC, Rover is also owned by a german company. Aston, Jag, and LR are all owned by an American company. TVR is owned by a Russian. MG is owned by the Chinese. What British marque is still owned by the Brittish? Stuart:
1) The Aussies know what is right and stick by us as well. We appreciate all the sacrifice from all those who have chosen to stand with us. Thank you.

2) The rolls you mention is a derrivative/owned by a german company. Bently is also owned by a german company. IIRC, Rover is also owned by a german company. Aston, Jag, and LR are all owned by an American company. TVR is owned by a Russian. MG is owned by the Chinese. What British marque is still owned by the Brittish?

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267394 Stuart Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:37:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267394 I'm actually from the UK and I look at this car and think over the top. It just look weird and doesn't really interest most people who have seen this car. Every time the Challeneger seems to be the choice of people between the two cars. I’m actually from the UK and I look at this car and think over the top. It just look weird and doesn’t really interest most people who have seen this car. Every time the Challeneger seems to be the choice of people between the two cars.

]]> By: DaveO http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267365 DaveO Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:15:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267365 There is no car like it here in Germany and that is for a reason...no interest. As for the UK, the way Jeremy Clarkson bashes all American cars I doubt it would see there either. Best chances are places where you can afford to feed a V8 and they appreciate such a crude car, like Australia. There is no car like it here in Germany and that is for a reason…no interest. As for the UK, the way Jeremy Clarkson bashes all American cars I doubt it would see there either. Best chances are places where you can afford to feed a V8 and they appreciate such a crude car, like Australia.

]]> By: Lucifer http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267313 Lucifer Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:09:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267313 well if it doesn't handle and has leaf spring suspention like the mustang, you can forget about europe. the usa's crap cars give them a worse reputation then their war in iraq. but if they make it too good, then it will be too expensive for americans, as a chevy. well, we shall see well if it doesn’t handle and has leaf spring suspention like the mustang, you can forget about europe. the usa’s crap cars give them a worse reputation then their war in iraq. but if they make it too good, then it will be too expensive for americans, as a chevy. well, we shall see

]]> By: Joey D http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267307 Joey D Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:49:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267307 While the Camaro is a sweet car I would say no to Europe, it just won't fit in. But in the land down under however, I would say it would do great. While the Camaro is a sweet car I would say no to Europe, it just won’t fit in. But in the land down under however, I would say it would do great.

]]> By: interphase http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267266 interphase Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:07:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267266 <i>it looks like a characature of a real car</i> I'm not so sure that's such a bad thing. Film characters are caricatures of real people, superheroes are caricatures of crime enforcers.. we sometimes need to have the key aspects of something made larger than llife so we can appreciate everything it stands for. I think the Camaro looks like the muscle car you'd draw when you were young, and I know that if I had one sitting on my driveway I'd never stop looking at it and thinking just how outrageous it was. It doesn't quite fit in the real world, and that's its strength. it looks like a characature of a real car

I’m not so sure that’s such a bad thing. Film characters are caricatures of real people, superheroes are caricatures of crime enforcers.. we sometimes need to have the key aspects of something made larger than llife so we can appreciate everything it stands for. I think the Camaro looks like the muscle car you’d draw when you were young, and I know that if I had one sitting on my driveway I’d never stop looking at it and thinking just how outrageous it was. It doesn’t quite fit in the real world, and that’s its strength.

]]> By: Bonquisha Jackson http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267255 Bonquisha Jackson Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:37:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267255 I have an RS4 it costs way more than £40K I have an RS4 it costs way more than £40K

]]> By: LamborghiniZ http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267252 LamborghiniZ Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:09:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267252 Yeah this would be a great idea if the Camaro didn't look like garbage, yes that's right, I said it, it looks like shit. The design is borderline cartoonish, it looks like a characature of a real car. Pretty sad really. I also love how all the press is focused on the version that will be sold with a V8, when the majority of sales will be of the shitty, bottom of the barrel V6 version. Don't bring this to Europe. It'll be a disgrace. Yeah this would be a great idea if the Camaro didn’t look like garbage, yes that’s right, I said it, it looks like shit. The design is borderline cartoonish, it looks like a characature of a real car. Pretty sad really. I also love how all the press is focused on the version that will be sold with a V8, when the majority of sales will be of the shitty, bottom of the barrel V6 version. Don’t bring this to Europe. It’ll be a disgrace.

]]> By: Hidden_Hunter http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267251 Hidden_Hunter Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:08:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267251 I don't think that they will sell it, the camero doesn't have the same history it does stateside as it does in Europe. I don’t think that they will sell it, the camero doesn’t have the same history it does stateside as it does in Europe.

]]> By: camaro king http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267240 camaro king Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:36:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267240 ummmmmmmmmmmmmm i dnt know wut 2 say ummmmmmmmmmmmmm i dnt know wut 2 say

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267237 Madcapp Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:20:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267237 Stuart you're just pissed because your countryman have squandered your entire automotive industry. That redneck Camaro not supposed to be refined like a M3/RS4, its American you retard...its supposed to be raw, powerful, ostentatious and that's ceritanly not for everyone...its not for me but at least we have an identity and an automotive industry. If you don't like it, fine we'll just start dropping bombs. Stuart you’re just pissed because your countryman have squandered your entire automotive industry. That redneck Camaro not supposed to be refined like a M3/RS4, its American you retard…its supposed to be raw, powerful, ostentatious and that’s ceritanly not for everyone…its not for me but at least we have an identity and an automotive industry. If you don’t like it, fine we’ll just start dropping bombs.

]]> By: Stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267198 Stuart Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:01:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267198 KEEP THIS PIECE OF SHIT AWAY. The Ford Mustang wasn't the best of cars but least Ford was decent enough to spare itself the humiliation of bringing it over because they knew it would be a flop. Besides for £40K I would need a gun pointed at my head to even consider this POS. M3/CLK55/RS4 would outclass this banger every time KEEP THIS PIECE OF SHIT AWAY. The Ford Mustang wasn’t the best of cars but least Ford was decent enough to spare itself the humiliation of bringing it over because they knew it would be a flop.

Besides for £40K I would need a gun pointed at my head to even consider this POS. M3/CLK55/RS4 would outclass this banger every time

]]> By: Madcapp http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267178 Madcapp Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:07:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267178 They're gonna have to add a "how to grow a mullet" section for the Euro owners manual. They’re gonna have to add a “how to grow a mullet” section for the Euro owners manual.

]]> By: wetstuff http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267171 wetstuff Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:44:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267171 Nah - it's for the GI's. Hell, the Cold War was over forever ago, but we still have 130,000+ tittybar customers sprinkled around that may be attracted to this. . j i m - Regular Army Nah – it’s for the GI’s. Hell, the Cold War was over forever ago, but we still have 130,000+ tittybar customers sprinkled around that may be attracted to this.
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j i m – Regular Army

]]> By: Bonquisha Jackson http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267160 Bonquisha Jackson Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:17:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267160 Pyrotechnic pop up hood a la Jaguar XK Pyrotechnic pop up hood a la Jaguar XK

]]> By: interphase http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267155 interphase Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:50:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267155 I'd heard that as it stands, the Camaro won't meet UK pedestrian safety requirements because of the construction of the front end. I'd rather not see it here at all than see that amazing face compromised to fit regulations. I’d heard that as it stands, the Camaro won’t meet UK pedestrian safety requirements because of the construction of the front end. I’d rather not see it here at all than see that amazing face compromised to fit regulations.

]]> By: Bonquisha Jackson http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267151 Bonquisha Jackson Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:39:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267151 The neo mullet or Moolay as it is now know is a hot designer haircut here in the UK. This thing will sell in tiny numbers to a hardcore of AMerican car fans. It wil be sold as a Chevrolet as Europeans know that the Camaro and COrvette are chevrolets. The neo mullet or Moolay as it is now know is a hot designer haircut here in the UK. This thing will sell in tiny numbers to a hardcore of AMerican car fans. It wil be sold as a Chevrolet as Europeans know that the Camaro and COrvette are chevrolets.

]]> By: BrokenCadillac... http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267147 BrokenCadillac... Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:35:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267147 I'd love to see them try to sell an unrefined, ponderous muscle car to the folks across the pond. Might as well try and sell them an H1 while they're at it. Do the any Brits have mullets? I’d love to see them try to sell an unrefined, ponderous muscle car to the folks across the pond. Might as well try and sell them an H1 while they’re at it. Do the any Brits have mullets?

]]> By: 1952 MG TD http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267143 1952 MG TD Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:19:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267143 I think that if the platform and material qualities are up to snuff that the bold styling would make it a good seller overseas. I think that if the platform and material qualities are up to snuff that the bold styling would make it a good seller overseas.

]]> By: zan http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267142 zan Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:17:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267142 If the Camaro is sold in Europe it would be under the Vauxhaul badge "http://www.vauxhall.co.uk" If the Camaro is sold in Europe it would be under the Vauxhaul badge “http://www.vauxhall.co.uk”

]]> By: JS http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267138 JS Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:13:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267138 Maybe they won´t call it Chevrolet, but "Camaro" as they do here in Europe with the Corvette. Maybe they won´t call it Chevrolet, but “Camaro” as they do here in Europe with the Corvette.

]]> By: Bonquisha Jackson http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe.html#comment-267125 Bonquisha Jackson Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:38:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/11/gm-may-sell-camaro-in-europe/#comment-267125 It's gonna sit real well in the showroom with all those re-badged Daewoos and confuse all the customers It’s gonna sit real well in the showroom with all those re-badged Daewoos and confuse all the customers

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