Only a glimpse, but nice evolutionary design.

Looks like GM is dealing another blow to the competition. First the Malibu this week and now this. Might be time to get some GM stock again.

Comment by S-60-driver: Little better but has the boring, generic look to it. Try again, GM!

Comment by 1952 MG TD: looks a bit like my butthole after I have been reamed by deantj

Comment by bun_a_gm: It’s hideous. Lose the GM badge, Please. GM is ****. FACE IT. The Japanese have this market. Period.

Comment by leozug: wow. they’ve done a really good job of being absolutly boring and unimaginative. good work. next…all i have to say is, “another boring, cookie cutter, XXXXXX . Whooptie-Freaking-Doo.”

Comment by BrokenCadillac: Looks like GM’s truck designers took a crack at a sedan… Two thumbs way down.

Comment by YourNameHere: zZzZzZzZ that gotta do better then that if they want ppl to pay attention to it to expand…its ugly. just plain ugly. not even interesting, attention getting, a special kinda person, ugly. those kinda cars still sell…this is just plain ugly
Comment by GarbageMotorsCo: The only thing this is going to “crush” is your GM “faithfuls” hearts when this thing comes to market and it’s biggest customer is Avis Rental Car.
Comment by LamborghiniZ: GM does make inferior products, thats why the Malibu and G6 are PATHETIC competitors to the Accord, Camry, Altima, Mazda 6, etc. This isn’t “anti-fanboy” anything, I’m a realist, and I’m being realistic here when I say the Malibu hasn’t ever been, and I doubt will be, any competition for the best in the segment.
Comment by YourNameHere: i will laugh at anyone that pays sticker for one of these….hell i will laugh at anyone that pays more then 3,000 under sticker

just thought I would put out the comments. Heck that is waht you were about to say, wasn’t it???:)

I like how the headlamp assembly visually travels down to the air-intake and fog lamp. Nice detail.

I hope the rear tail-lights are like those thin strips shown in the concept.

Chris2: that was funny as hell….and very true!

I’ve never been a fan of GM products (I mean, they did make the Cavalier), but I’m exciting about their new products. At least they’ve chosen a real direction!

The first-generation was a milestone Cadillac. This one is gaudy, ugly, and has lost the clean and uncluttered design of the first-generation model. Lutz should have stayed out of this design; he hated the Sigma team, and it shows by his wreaking havoc on what was once a great design. Until Lutz goes, GM will continue to tread water.

looks damn good and i love those fat tires

Doesn’t it look like Ed & Bob just finished off a Blunt stuffed with kronic BC bud….

wow this is a really good design

Been there, done that…

Looks promising….. but do you thing the caddy badge is big enough?

chris2. Thank you very much for that.

Sexy!

The pictures from 60 minutes encourage me. I hope this rumored coupe is a 2-dr “Hard Top”. Let’s not forget what happened when the Coupe De’Ville was introduced in 49 and the craze that followed. It’s time for GM to lead in style AGAIN. ARE YOU LISTENING GM??? If I don’t want to be seen in it, I’m not buying it…………………….

chris2>>> You hurt my feeling; I wasn’t quoted. I’m just not pithy enough. Maybe Santa Claus will bring me some pithiness for ‘mis ‘mis.

MGBYG>>> I was thinking the same thing, Bobby looks roasted.

It does look like a very effective and expensive cheese grater.

I don’t understand what’s so great about it… The styling is an updated version of the old one, big deal. Hopefully, they spend more than 5 cents on the interior materials this time around…

^^ That could be said of the current BMW/Audi/Porsche as well. Just an update of the prior design.

Quiet lanapat7, He is trying his hardest to hate GM.

We’ve only been shown a small portion of the vehicle and the obligatory GM bashing begins. chris2 hit it on the nose with his exposé, brilliant work.

chris2 wins the brilliant post of the year award. It looks very close to what they showed on 60 minutes a few months back, I can only hope that the interior has stayed faithful to that concept as well. If so then way to go GM.

Oldsmobile – lol !

Its blingin’ fo sho. I digs it.

And Bobby is definantely lookin a little toasty…. lol the grin sets it off.

but will it look as good with a license plate on the front? yikes

The part I can see looks great.

Yeah I like it, nice Cadillac, always have liked Cadillac

Extremely well done, chris2, on the post. This car confirms the direction in which the Caddy art/science design is evolving, and I could not be happier. The new ‘Slade and now the new CTS show that Caddy is refining the mafioso look that is not quite over the top. Who are you gonna notice first? The guy in a new black CTS with the giant, nicely detailed chrome grill or the guy in the class-equivalent Lexus, with its impeccable quality and absolute soulessness? I mean the new Caddys are absolutely bold, but in my opinion not gaudyt. I would choose this over a number of cars, including perhaps a 5-series if logic was enough overcome by emotion, as is apt to occur when cars are involved.

Looks like they crossed an escalade with the sixteen concept car.

Awesome, GM! Yes, this is a great design, keep it up!

This car looks small….

Wow…looks really good…Lincoln better re-vamp the MKZ if they want it to hang with this….
The V series should be amazing

I don’t think it looks bad at all….of course I’ll wait until I see the final product before I pass judgement.

And people, c’mon already!!! Why flame a car that you have not even seen in the flesh yet? You’ve seen a fender and part of a front end and with this some of you summarly dismiss the entire car? Oh yes, really open minded and chock full of research that is! And don’t give me that “in the past, GM etc etc etc” past history B.S….. things do change. So, open your minds, sse the entire product and THEN share your opinion…

Didn’t the 60 minutes version have a different grille?

BMW, Mercedesm Lexus, Acura and Audi are all going to have to give their cars away once this thing arrives! Nobody is going to want that crap anymore. Good, because they don;t belong in my country.

Just goes to prove that GM has had the design talent all along. It took an outsider like Lutz to tell the bean-counters to get back in their cubbyholes where they belong and to keep their ink-stained mitts off of the product. If they keep this up I might just buy my first ever Big Three car……

By the way, if the nail the interior it will outsell the previous version by a large amount. Doesn’t require genius, just the guts to spend a few bucks. If they nail the V-version it’s lights out for for the Germans. An off-the-shelf Vette engine should do the trick, with or without the supercharger. Do they have the guts???

actuly S-60 DRIVER U NEED TO LEVEV NO ONE LIKES U!!

Hi, Chevy490!! Been a while since we trash-talked. Actually, whatever u say, its always 100% never true. Its funny how u talk like that. You’ll just keep showing everybody how stupid u are. Im not even gonna waste my time with you. Im sticking with LLN topics starting right now.

looks pretty good. maybe a little busy, but i’ll have to see the whole car before i make a decision.

cadillac is one of the only brands of gm i actually like, they’ve done a lot of good stuff recently…

so far so good oh and BTW any word on powertrain? Im sure it will be GMs 3.6 DOHC, but I’m assuming it will be upgraded to be more powerful, maybe direct injection?

Hope it does well – grille and fender are much nicer than the previous style – Guaranteed to destroy any volvo

Chris2,
You are WAY too funny man! You SO nailed it. LoL

GMRules,
Unless your a Native American…this is NOT your country so please don’t be so ignorant.

Im not a big fan of Cadillac, but i’ll have to say that it does look really promising. Im happy that things are turning around for them. Hopefully Ford has the same luck soon.

One word to sum up this car – PATHETIC – talk about lack of design talent

Andre Neves, are you calling all non-Native American U.S. residents occupiers???

Only a few states require front plates. Which are they?

Lets hope the 275hp 3.6 out of the Lamdas is standard with a little something extra to bring it up to 300.

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2007/HPT%20Library/HFV6/2007_36L_LY7_Outlook.pdf

What a beautiful flat torque curve!!!

But they may offer a smaller engine that will be for the European market.

I’m gonna stick my beautiful fat torque **** up your slack ass chris2. Hope I can touch both sides at once!

I know Ohio requires front plates, but I’ve never been pulled over for not having them. It’s usually a minor law that nobody enforces, I know that some cars (mine for instance) don’t even have a place to put your front license plate.

To the person that asked if the grill was different in the 60 minutes version. Yes it was, but after the Sixteen & especially the new Escalade, Cadillac is going with a bigger more prominent grill. I applaud that choice as they should want people to know it’s a Caddy.

Move to Michigan!!!!! I laughed so much I peed my pants a little

Now my id’s been swiped. Nice. Grow up asshole.

My depenz is full, gotta go change it. Later dudes

Just a teaser, so I’m not gonna take it too seriously.

But that badge ain’t any bigger than the Camry’s and it looks evolutionary…added sharp angles, which is what made the CTS appealing in the first place.

I’d love to see Bob Lutz naked. Does anybody know of which gym he is a member?

Maybe the black dude would like to play with my man-boobs

I’m a little disappointed by GMs recent product. maybe the CTS or CTC will make me think more highly of them

I like this car, it has “Do Me” written all over it

I’m coming I’m coming

The CTC is a pile of crap next to the CTS. As always, Mercedes will always be cheap econobox crap next to the mighty GM.

S60 YOU DRIVE A GAY ASS VOLVO YOU HOMO WE ALL HOTE YOYR LAME ASS COMMENTS PLEASE DIE IN FLAMES HOMO.

Good Lord. We have crazy GM lovers calling Mercedes “econobox crap” (ever sit in one) and people stealing other peoples ID’s to humiliate them. We all need to just calm down I think rationally, it’s just a car…

psiclone,
pretty much, yeah.

A car is a car is a car, we all have our favorites and it dont make everything else junk at all. i love my cts and i love my frontier , it dosnt mean i think a mercedes or bmw are junk by any means. and i will agree on the material quality, my girls 525i has a way better dashboard, but to me its just a dashboard. i do know my cts rides just as smooth, is basically just as fast and we both agree the cts is by far more comfortable for a long day in the mountains. i think the cts even looks slightly better with the sharp lines, so i cant wait till i get this beautiful 2008 cts posted above.

Oh you bet i admit it, when we pick the caddie over the bmw even to go to the store it says a lot for the car, cant wait for the next one to be in my driveway. and i am a LIFELONG gm fan, sure the 80`s and 90`s were full of really bad cars for gm, but we all know the cost to build in america is huge, when it comes to american cars people want a cadillac to cost the same as a camry and if it dont then gm must be crap, but look at the gm cars today they are a huge improvement, when my caddie makes my girls bmw look like a toy car its a victory for gm. i dont understand the hype that most other posters here are into when they say gm is crap, have they not driven one lately?

That’s because those who diss GM and drive some other piece of **** Ford, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Chrysler are just ignorant unAmerican Assholes.

Hope they all get run over by an Escalade.

The “Crazy GM Lovers” are just responding to the thousands of posts everyday on here about why GM vehicles suck. I have my prefrence but I dont knock other people, or the vehicles they drive. So maybe if people like brokencadillac wouldnt rip on everything GM made, or post saying that all GM products feature “5 cent interiors” – GarbageMotorsCo, possibly things would be a bit more civilized around here. It gets old hearing that my vehicle sucks and it breaks down daily because it falls under the GM corporate family, I havn’t had a problem with any of my vehicles. But whatever I guess. I think the new CTS looks sharp from the preview shot. Oh yea my mothers CTS has over 50k miles and no problems!

hmm – not impressed so far. I’ll reserve judgement until the rest of the car is revealed.

Ford is un-American?

My cts has 92,000 trouble free miles wits 0 squeaks and rattles, i did tell her to drive the beemer off a cliff, but we use it to haul the dogs to the park; dont want to dirty my seats in the caddy.

Nice. Maybe you should donate it to charity? Oh wait, it’s a worthless pile of German garbage. Just like the new Bimmers.

Nope, just a diehard, loyal owner of an 03′ Chevy Avalanche and a 2005 Cobalt LS. Better cars than any Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota, whatever.

You want to prove to me that BMW’s are reliable? Mercedes? Audi’s?

Can’t do it can you. GM rules. Deal with it.

And why is Mercedes calling it the CTC? Because are trying to be like Cadillac with their superior products like the CT-S. Mercedes is copying the winning formula because they know that on their own, they are going to be wiped off the map. They can’t compete. They cannot compete with the mighty GM.

Wake up LamborghiniZ. GM is where its at. The rest of the industry is crap. Waste. Garbage. Junk.

I think LamboZ, that GMrules just another alias for 1 or two individuals who have raped the system and are logging in under 15 different screen names in an attempt to make GM look popular. Up until the last couple of days, any news about GM has been met with “Whatever” and now all of a sudden 100 people show up from out of the woodwork posting under screen names for the VERY first time about how dominating and wonderful GM is all of a sudden. I think GM is being overhyped here and on a few other sites that I visit. I honestly think that Bob Putz or somebody has launched some sneaky forum blitz to make Gm look like a more popular brand than it actually is.

it really seems kinda fishy…

GarbageMotorsCo & Lambo: If GM/Lutz were really trying to boost the popularity of GM vehicles on this site, they’d be posting more realistic/reasonable comments. I think there’s a few people posting on this blog who enjoy logging in using other people’s ids & posting b.s. just to upset people. I don’t think anyone really thinks GMrules comments are “real” (at least I hope not!).

Maybe Garbage, I haven’t been here all that long, few weeks at most. But I only post under this name, so there are at least few GM fans on here, were just not as obnoxious as most of the Anti GM, Anti-American members on here, with the exception of GMrules. I don’t hate a car based on who makes it for the most part, but I do favor GM.

Yeah I think the best thing for everyone to do, and I’m going to begin taking my own advice here, is to totally ignore his comments, because its such utter bull**** that despite whatever evidence you provide, he just pulls some **** out of his ass and ignores what you say. So just ignore him, maybe him and his psychotic bull**** will go away.

Oh and GMrules, I am awake, and I’m watching with my own two, conscious eyes, GM lose money every year and make ****tier vehicles every year, and lose market share to Toyota every year. Just a matter of time before the entire company collapses.

Yeah I prided myself as being on the side of GM fans here who defended their arguments on the General’s behalf with some degree of collegiality in the face of the onslaught of overwrought hate-mongering against GM. GMrules has now arrived in an attempt to completely discredit us and give the S-60s and lamborghiniZs of this world the high ground as it were. The only reason I would miss GMrules is because sometimes he is just such a riot.

Anyone who says GMrules is on Lutz’s payroll probably also thinks aliens killed JFK, Cheney organized 9/11, and Bush personally unleashed Katrina on New Orleans.

Sorry, LamborghiniZ, I threw you under the bus by lumping you in with S-60; over the top that was, I admit.

You’re dead wrong in agreeing with GMrules, but right on in ingnoring GMrules henceforth and I will join you in that.

ill second the idea of ignoring GMrules, can we add CTSDriver to the same list…im beginning to think they are the same person….

on another note…
i don’t like the car…outside of the escalade im not in favor of Cadillac’s new styling…
i dont think Caddilac is a better car the Mercedes…
I have an 04 DeVille with 67,000 miles…the transmission has had to been replaced…but nothing else besides tires and basics…but my parents S-Class isnt even in the same league…it’s smoother, nicer, more powerful….its jst a better car…

no im definately not gmlover and i did give bmw props for better interior quality materials, but i also did say i actually have a 525 sitting in my driveway and i like my caddy better. its a matter of opinion, it has given me over 90000 trouble free miles and looks great at the same time. when you have one of each to compare to on a daily basis its a differnt story. i joined today because i was ready to puke reading all of the dumbass comments from s60. the cts is a fine vehicle try actually spending some time in one and you will understand. look how many posts above condem the car and all we see is a picture of the friggin bumper. i am starting to think the rest of you morons work for all the other car companies and need to bash the cadillac because you now realize it is a different and much more superrior product than 5 years ago. would i oun a 1990 sedan de ville? hell friggin no!!!!! would i own a 2008 cts hell yes!!!! come on already how many of you remenber how crappy audis used to also be in the 80`s and 90`s? now they are wonderful cars and if audi can turn around and be universally accepted as a great car how come cadillac cant get the same chance from the rest of you?

Per teh JD Power VDS (3 year reliability data) the Mercedes vehicles are even with Chevrolet with about 241 problems per 100 cars. Below the industry average of 227.

Buick and Cadillac are 3 and 4 under Lexus at 153/163 ( and above Toyota).

Mercedes has a reliablity problem. They know it and are working on it.

FYI, I have asked LLN to look at this link and do something about the bull that is going on. One of the comments is not mine above, hopefully obvious. I hope they require some kind of password to sign on so the names cannot be hijacked.

Thanks. chris2

Ford and General Motors have taken turns besting the Toyota Camry in quality surveys for the past two years, but if you talk to many Americans – especially the ones who would never consider supporting home-based auto companies – you’d never know it.

Last year, the Chevrolet Impala beat the Camry in initial quality, according to J.D. Power & Associates. And Consumer Reports just announced that both the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan scored higher than both the Camry and the Honda Accord this year.

I’ll leave some encouraging numbers for those of us who actually like to root for and support the home team. The J.D. Power 2006 Vehicle Dependability Survey reports that Mercury, Buick and Cadillac (in that order) grabbed the No. 2, 3 and 4 spots to beat Toyota, Honda, Nissan, BMW and everyone else (except Lexus) in having the least number of problems per 100 vehicles.

Wow, one of the most active forums I’ve seen in a while. All over a tease of a headlight… The pro-GM vs. Anti-GM, the fighting, the name calling, the possibility of identity theft… Wild.

So first off – Chris2, nicely done. Really enjoyed that. Proved some people can’t take a joke – (1952 MG TD lighten up)

To the ProGM-vs-NoGM argument, well, as an ASE Service Consultant, and someone very familiar with GMC specifically, I would not personally own a GM vehicle.

The out of the box GM flaws I’ve had to deal with first hand are appauling. Factory damaged wiring harnesses, due to someone on the assembly line using too long of a bolt for the horn bracket, which just happens to now pierce into the main wiring loom along the frame rail causing all kinds of shorts and cooked modules. A large batch of 8.1L Vortec V8 motors not lasting past 5,000 miles due an oil starvation problem. Bad Delphi electrical connectors at the PCM with pin drag problems causing vehicles to shut down on the highway. Faulty fuel pumps causing relays to overheat so badly the melt into the socket. Bad stuff to see on vehicles less than a year old.

If you’re going to buy a GM product, go for it, I won’t hate you for it. They are comfy, and have a good warranty, just don’t buy the one built on a Friday…

As for this perticular Caddy – I’m not into it. I’m not saying they can’t build a nice car, I’m just saying stylistically the whole “art of design” movement started with the EVOQ concept a while back never worked for me. The sharp angles and crashing lines of this modern design theory will make these vehicles seem dated earlier than later. Now my vision of a modern day Cadillac would be something long and low, with smooth clean lines, and be “inspired” from the earlier designs of Harley Earl.

my $.02

I started off working at a Pontiac dealer, and from there went on to work at a couple Chevy dealers. I moved to Texas and became a salesman at a Toyota dealership, left there and I’m currently working at a Chrysler dealership. I own two Chevrolets myself, my mother owned a Trail Blazer, and now she just has the CTS, we havn’t had one problem. I take that back, the factory radio in my Monte Carlo would spit out the CD everynow and than, so I had it replaced. I would rather buy a Chevy over a Toyota. From my experiences Toyotas had more problems. One of my customers brought back his brand new 06 Avalon 30 minutes after he drove it off the lot because all the power inside the vehicle went out as well as the headlights and taillights. Our shop couldn’t figure it out so we had to dealer trader for another Avalon. I had better experiences with GM products a opposed to whats supposed to be the king of quality. All Im saying is that every company has its problems. I know a lot of ASE mechanics that will only buy GM products, I know guys that will only buy a Dodge, a lot of them work at the Toyota dealership. I would just like to see people be a little less biased on here, everyone on here seems to be judging GM as well as Ford and Chrysler based on products from the 80’s. Reserve your hate towards something until you actually get to try it, than make a decision.

americanrevolution, its all good, ignoring him is what we shall do.

Someone from Mercedes-Benz please write and tell Stuart why he is so wrong.
Selling an S-Class at E-class prices makes no business sense whatsover, and if the new E-Class is sold at S-Class prices then volume would decrease.
The A and B and C-Class sell in large numbers in Europe. How will M-B replace all that lost income.
Please explain how your business model will benefit Mercedes-Benz?

^lol Try the other way around. And GM builds plenty of cars and their full size SUV’s in Mexico. Toyota, Nissan and Honda are all opening new facilities within this country and creating jobs. Putz and his cronies have made the push towards China and are abandoning the US market all together. Wouldn”t be surprised if 50% of thier lineup is derived from offshore offerings built by Chinese workers making 2 cents an hour. Then the golden parachutes and Rich corporate philosophy can be preserved as well as the minimal appreciation for the people who actually do the work around there, which is build the damn cars. Assholes, utter assholes. And you and others here support them.

Sad really.

So I’m an asshole now? And that wasn’t the point I was trying to make GMrules. This place is pretty pointless, everyone has their opinion on what a good car is and wont sway from it. Cant give a company any credit when its due, and rip on anyone that doesn’t agree, this place sucks!

IF ALL YOU BOZOS HATE GM SO DAMN MUCH WHE EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME READING OR POSTING AND ARGUING YOUR FRUGAL POINTS TO PEOPLE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR PERCEPTIONS OF WHAT A CAR SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE. COME ON ALREADY CHILDREN WHO CARES WHO`S MOM IS PRETTIER THAN THE WHO`S MOM, YOU BUNCH OF 1ST GRADERS. I ALSO HAVE A NISSAN FRONTIER WHICH IS WAY BELOW THE QUALITY OF MY OLD S10, AT LEAST THAT STARTED, AND THE SPEED SENSOR DIDNT FALL OUT PAST 80 MPH OH YEAH BUT THE DASHBOARD IS SOFT TOUCH, WHO FRIGGIN CARES I DONT SIT ON IT. GM PAYS $100000 A YEAR PLUS HUGE INSURANCE FOR ITS EMPLOYEES. TOYOTA COMES HERE AND PAYS THE SAME JOBS 10 BUCK AN HOUR WITH MINIMAL INSURANCE AND EVERYBODY THINKS ITS GOOD, SURE SOME REDNECKS NOW MAKE MINIMUM WAGE. THE LABOR UNIONS ARE WHAT IS KILLING THE AMERICAN AUTO INDUSTRY, NOT THE PLANNERS AT ANY AMERICAN OWNED AUTO COMPANY. AS FOR AMERICAN CARS BEING BUILT IN MEXICO….WONDERFUL IDEA, IT AT LEAST HELPS MEXICO KEEP SOME OF THEIR LABORERS DOWN THERE. AND JD POWERS IS PUTTING OUT LISTS THAT INCLUDE AMERICAN BRANDS AT THE TOP OF THE INITIAL QUALITY CATEGORY, HARD PLASTIC DASH OR NOT THE INITIAL QUALITY AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS THERE, HOW MANY CARS HAS TOYOTA RECALLED THIS YEAR?????????MORE THAN GM, LESS THAN FORD. AND WHO IS BMW PARTNERING WITH ON HYBRID TECHNOLOGY……GM. THERE ARE STILL A FEW PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT THINK GM IS TURNING ITS SELF AROUND AND FINALLY HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I KNOW MY CTS PROVES IT. SO ALL THE BIASED HATERS NEED TO STOP ARGUING USELESS POINTS ABOUT CARS MADE LAST CENTURY OR JUST NOT OPEN AND JOIN THE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING GM CARS BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE LITTLE KIDS.
P.S. MY TONKA IS BETTER THAN YOUR FISCHER PRICE.

I was referring to the GM upper managment as Assholes. I have mutual respect for everyone on these boards (Except GMrules ) bb_454. it was not an attack on you.

Thanks man. GMrules doesn’t seem to be on much today. Wonder if he was booted? Anyway hope thing’s can be mature around here.

CTS DRIVER: keep in mind that when you leave a novel length post in all caps, no one bothers to read it. Just so you know.

yeah lomboZ youre rite i skip them too, still new at all of this, just have soooooo much to say, and i really am glad to have found an enthusiast site where educated people can communicate their passion about autos. i tried it on street fire but the kids are too annoying. and i have actually learned a lot from the rest of all you guys (and probabley some girls too), so thanks everybody.

yeah i often have that problem, i just have so much stuff i want to say and i really WISH everybody would read my thoughts in their entirety, because as anyone does I consider them very important, and i often find myself writing long ass comments too, but yeah being able to talk to people about cars is sweet, not many places where you can actually do that

Its a damn shame sometimes when people talk about **** they have no idea. This caddy shows a unique design that the foreign maket isnt going. America is muscle, and this caddy shows it. FYI, to the foreign lovers….most of the foreign cars in america today were design and built in america….by americans….so its by the same people. And what ever happened to American Pride. Noone wants jobs going over seas, but people buy cars that are “from over seas” or atleast owned over seas. Caddy just in the last 7 years has come a long way, and from what i see its only going to get better!! Bravo GM and Cadillac.

anyclearer, jobs going over seas? Are you kidding? Consider all of the THOUSANDS of jobs Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, etc. have created for blue collar American workers here in the U.S….and then compare that to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of blue collar American workers here in the U.S. that have been laid off by GM and Ford closing numerous plants not to mention parts suppliers plants. You’re telling us its a shame when people talk about things that they know nothing of, well look at yourself. By the way…what happened to American Pride you ask? Well in the case of cars, it disappeared along with domestic auto quality.

If you took the time to look at all sides Lambo you would find out that Domestic manufactures still employee far and away more Americans than the Imports, and they earn more while doing it. You would also find out that American cars have a far higher Domestic content than the Imports regardless of where they are built. It is still a fact that you are helping the American economy more by buying a Cadillac ect. than you are by buying a Toyota ect. even if it happens to be assembled in America. While its true that the Import brands have created new jobs, it has came at a very high price. The quality of the new bread American cars is running at an all time high, and the studies prove it. They still have room for improvement but they are headed in the right direction fast. I do agree with one thing however, GMrules comments are over the top, and thats coming from a GM guy.

Lambo, all i was saying is that by buying domestic cars, you are helping american businesses. which was my point of what happened to american pride. And the statement about quality and imports being built here, was for all the import guys who say imports are designed and built better….cause in some cases like the new toyota tundra and most hondas, they are designed and built by americans. Lambo i was going to get into every detail about everything, it was just my basic opionion on why i thought people should still respect american cars. The number 1,2,3 assembly plants in the world for quality are all three GM plants. If you ask most people why they think toyota is better or honda. They really cant back themselves up with to much information besides what they “hear through the grape vine”. MHW i think was right on the money about the GM comments being over the top. And i to am a GM guy. But i do deff see alot of progress being made to correct their business. Just to simply put i think to many people get deffensive on here, and just should put their bias aside to look at the facts. And i know i have bias ofcourse, but can still see that other cars out there are good for good reason.