Comments on: GM purchases half of Italian diesel maker VM Motori http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:38:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BLISS http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-318439 BLISS Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:18:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-318439 THATS A GOOD MOVE THATS A GOOD MOVE

]]> By: Burmanesski http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-318284 Burmanesski Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:40:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-318284 spud, its not that its just your Saab is crap. GM motors have always been the winner in most races. If you have ever seen the NASCAR top ten final resualts it is usally Chevy, Chevy, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Dodge, Chevy, Chevy, Chevy, Toyota. Also my Camaro make a lot of noise but lots of power to back that up. spud, its not that its just your Saab is crap. GM motors have always been the winner in most races. If you have ever seen the NASCAR top ten final resualts it is usally Chevy, Chevy, Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Dodge, Chevy, Chevy, Chevy, Toyota. Also my Camaro make a lot of noise but lots of power to back that up.

]]> By: spud http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317935 spud Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:58:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317935 Lets hope they get it right this time. The major weak point in my Saab 95 Diesel is it's damn GM sourced engine. Slow, unreliable, noisy pos... Lets hope they get it right this time. The major weak point in my Saab 95 Diesel is it’s damn GM sourced engine. Slow, unreliable, noisy pos…

]]> By: youngm7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317908 youngm7 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:01:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317908 i'm lovin the hybrid hating i’m lovin the hybrid hating

]]> By: Hidden_Hunter http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317900 Hidden_Hunter Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:36:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317900 Hopefully we see the motor in the commodore (g8) Hopefully we see the motor in the commodore (g8)

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317892 1c3d0g Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:55:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317892 Great news! Diesel engines are going to be powering many more vehicles in the future, it's inevitable. Hybrids suck. Great news! Diesel engines are going to be powering many more vehicles in the future, it’s inevitable. Hybrids suck.

]]> By: Jazz http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317865 Jazz Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:32:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317865 About time the General made a move that I could get totally behind. Way to go GM! About time the General made a move that I could get totally behind. Way to go GM!

]]> By: rey323 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317835 rey323 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:43:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317835 I like GMs positioning for the future: serial hybrids and diesel power. I like GMs positioning for the future: serial hybrids and diesel power.

]]> By: AMGoff http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317825 AMGoff Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:03:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317825 This is very good news indeed. I wonder how the domestophobes will try to spin this against the General? This is very good news indeed. I wonder how the domestophobes will try to spin this against the General?

]]> By: Bryce http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317790 Bryce Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:25:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317790 GMICT engines are focused on the commercial market. Those powerplants are too large and too powerful for car use. I don't know Isuzu's capacity for producing light diesel engines, but I have no doubt that GM beancounters considered it before buying half of a company. GM trucks are profitable. Building a plant in Ohio to produce engines for those trucks probably made a lot of sense. Doing the same for unprofitable vehicles probably doesn't. Especially not if infrastructure is already available. GMICT engines are focused on the commercial market. Those powerplants are too large and too powerful for car use. I don’t know Isuzu’s capacity for producing light diesel engines, but I have no doubt that GM beancounters considered it before buying half of a company. GM trucks are profitable. Building a plant in Ohio to produce engines for those trucks probably made a lot of sense. Doing the same for unprofitable vehicles probably doesn’t. Especially not if infrastructure is already available.

]]> By: jJayC08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317781 jJayC08 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:56:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317781 I will wait to see it happen, though I may be waiting for a while. Why don't they use Isuzu, or DMAX which they own a majority of now (they make the Duramax engines in the Ohio plant)? I would love to see them put a 6 cylinder diesel engine into the Colorado (no matter how much I hate that vehicle it would be a nice venture for GM) or GMC Acadia. I will wait to see it happen, though I may be waiting for a while.

Why don’t they use Isuzu, or DMAX which they own a majority of now (they make the Duramax engines in the Ohio plant)? I would love to see them put a 6 cylinder diesel engine into the Colorado (no matter how much I hate that vehicle it would be a nice venture for GM) or GMC Acadia.

]]> By: TURKISH http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317770 TURKISH Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:47:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317770 because its a series hybrid because its a series hybrid

]]> By: Culley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317769 Culley Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:47:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317769 Syrax... The VOLT isn't the only hybrid with a viable future, but the technology behind it is. Current hybrid's don't provide the type of fuel economy savings that are being advertised...Honda is getting ready to deal with a class action suit over that very issue with the Accord Hybrid. Series Hybrid is truly electric and depending on how far you drive, etc., you could conceivably never even use any fuel if you plug it in at home every night, (although unlikely) the little engine on board is strictly to charge the batteries. In a few years, that engine could be bio-diesel or eventually hydrogen fuel cell and the need for petroleum is potentially reduced to ZERO. Syrax…
The VOLT isn’t the only hybrid with a viable future, but the technology behind it is. Current hybrid’s don’t provide the type of fuel economy savings that are being advertised…Honda is getting ready to deal with a class action suit over that very issue with the Accord Hybrid. Series Hybrid is truly electric and depending on how far you drive, etc., you could conceivably never even use any fuel if you plug it in at home every night, (although unlikely) the little engine on board is strictly to charge the batteries. In a few years, that engine could be bio-diesel or eventually hydrogen fuel cell and the need for petroleum is potentially reduced to ZERO.

]]> By: Z06ified http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317768 Z06ified Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:39:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317768 Technically, the Volt isn't considered a hybrid. GM is calling it a plug-in electric with a range enhancing internal combustion engine. Since the internal combustion engine never drives the wheels directly through a transmission (it will only generate electricity for the electric motors), it isn't a hybrid powertrain. Technically, the Volt isn’t considered a hybrid. GM is calling it a plug-in electric with a range enhancing internal combustion engine. Since the internal combustion engine never drives the wheels directly through a transmission (it will only generate electricity for the electric motors), it isn’t a hybrid powertrain.

]]> By: Z06ified http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317767 Z06ified Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:36:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317767 Probably a good idea, but I'm perplexed as to why GM doesn't leverage off of their existing relationship with Isuzu with the Duramax program, or use their own diesel engineers like they are with their 4.5L V-8 diesel. I just haven't heard wonderful things about VM Motori engines so far. Like the one put in the Jeep Liberty CRD was relatively noisy for a modern diesel and didn't meet 50-state emissions standards - nothing special about it. Probably a good idea, but I’m perplexed as to why GM doesn’t leverage off of their existing relationship with Isuzu with the Duramax program, or use their own diesel engineers like they are with their 4.5L V-8 diesel.

I just haven’t heard wonderful things about VM Motori engines so far. Like the one put in the Jeep Liberty CRD was relatively noisy for a modern diesel and didn’t meet 50-state emissions standards – nothing special about it.

]]> By: Syrax http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317766 Syrax Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:29:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317766 why is the volt the only hybrid with a viable future? why is the volt the only hybrid with a viable future?

]]> By: Piablo http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317765 Piablo Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:23:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317765 Culley - Curious indeed! Maybe GM used some of the money that "Big OIL" paid them for destroying the electric car to buy into VM Motori... I love conspiracy theories. This is actually really good news. I for one really don't care for battery powered hybrids. I wouldn't buy a diesel hyrbid either. It's the 1/2Ton of batteries I don't like. But a straight up diesel stuffed into a homegrown GM product? They just might win me back as a customer. If these new diesels run anything like their 4.3L V6, I'll buy one in a heart beat. Culley – Curious indeed! Maybe GM used some of the money that “Big OIL” paid them for destroying the electric car to buy into VM Motori… I love conspiracy theories. This is actually really good news. I for one really don’t care for battery powered hybrids. I wouldn’t buy a diesel hyrbid either. It’s the 1/2Ton of batteries I don’t like. But a straight up diesel stuffed into a homegrown GM product? They just might win me back as a customer. If these new diesels run anything like their 4.3L V6, I’ll buy one in a heart beat.

]]> By: Culley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317764 Culley Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:13:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317764 And I almost forgot... The Chevrolet VOLT, series hybrid, the only type of hybrid that actually has a viable future, is scheduled for a 2010-2011 launch. And I almost forgot… The Chevrolet VOLT, series hybrid, the only type of hybrid that actually has a viable future, is scheduled for a 2010-2011 launch.

]]> By: Culley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html/comment-page-1#comment-317763 Culley Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:06:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-purchases-half-of-italian-diesel-maker-vm-motori.html#comment-317763 Hmmmmmmm... The story previous to this one talks about JD Power's finding that Hybrid demand is on the wane and that the interest in diesel power has doubled...and now GM owns 50% of one of the preeminent diesel makers in the world, (along with Roger Penske who does everything well) plus the intellectual property of two brand new diesel engines in Europe as well as half of the manufacturing facility in Poland that builds those engines…from the failed Fiat JV. Sounds like GM is out in front on an emerging trend. I am curious to see how the GM Bashers deal with this info. Hmmmmmmm… The story previous to this one talks about JD Power’s finding that Hybrid demand is on the wane and that the interest in diesel power has doubled…and now GM owns 50% of one of the preeminent diesel makers in the world, (along with Roger Penske who does everything well) plus the intellectual property of two brand new diesel engines in Europe as well as half of the manufacturing facility in Poland that builds those engines…from the failed Fiat JV. Sounds like GM is out in front on an emerging trend. I am curious to see how the GM Bashers deal with this info.

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