“I dont give GM a pass bc they are American” So your a racist as well as the forum clown?

I’m done arguing with you. Your senseless, your pointless, I’ve let this argument go on way to long and given you way to much attention.

And just to let you know, 12:10 PM is not midnight. Learn to tell time.

Lets not talk about relationships bc its obvious you are a liar and cant defeat my argument so you have to make up some fantasy about me lol You can Inj seem to be the real couple on here

Im the only sensible person on this board and I know the facts about GM. I dont give GM a pass bc they are American In the REAL WORLD one must prove ones worth and GM has failed to do so
In the real orld people drive Hondas and Toyotas and not GM and Fords
Get with it

I wonder why everyone disagrees with you… I guess that would make you the only “right” person in the real world.

Yes… I did add on mats and options. Most of the options are things I would consider standard in the first place, but regardless of that the maximum price for the coupe, the most expensive model, is $39,009. If you want to get real technical and only add mechanical items, then it’s about $33,000. If you’d like to define major items, but the ones I consider major like stereo, navigation, etc., it’s about $37,000. But I’m done arguing with you, your consumed with envy and hate for my Ford Taurus =D

Want a link? Try this one: http://www.tripleonefiveisaweasel.com/hondaphile/livesathomewithhismommy/neverbeenlaid.htm

Not used for resale values? Their overall reviews, they also have resale values. Kelley maybe specifically for resales and such, but that doesn’t mean their the only ones. As I mentioned, don’t be so damned and close minded.

And please, go for it. I’ll be pleased to see you in that hideous BMW poser. I would take my old and tattered seventeen year old Ford Taurus over it any day, and still be happy about my choice. Maybe you wouldn’t, but then again you consider the Japanese the epitome of innovation and technology, and I’ve clearly covered that issue and “beat you” as you put it in your childish terms, hands down.

Yes, the Camry and Accord are obviously worth more, but you payed a considerable more amount for the Camry than you did the Fusion. Therefore just because it’s *trade in value* is higher, doesn’t specifically mean your getting more of your money back.

What Ford Fusion did you look up? Because according to three sources that I’m using (Automag, C&D and Edmunds), they all tell me the same thing; Trade ins bottom out at $11,993 for 2006 Accords and top out at about $22,000. Ford Fusions bottom out at $10,500 and top out at about $17,500. Considering Ford Fusion NEW tops out around $26,500 and Accord tops out at $35,600 (for last generation, 2006), I would safely presume it holds it’s value much better. Actually, I don’t need to presume; figures prove my statement. If you want, feel free to go back and recheck my statements; I understand them to be true, and I’ve verified that with multiple sources.

And how the hell do you get a resale that’s higher than it’s MSRP for Accord (you said 20k)? You don’t, and don’t give me any bull**** that it must be in such high demand that it drives the resale up, because obviously it isn’t and doesn’t. AND if Ford Fusions resale, base value I’m guessing because you had used the LX model, the lowest Accord model, as your example (otherwise your just being biased) then it STILL holds it’s value better.

“Oh Yeeeah!”

Injunraiv- If you meant that statement towards me for “correcting” someone, I just wanted to mention that the Ford Fusion isn’t in low demand.

I’m guessing you don’t see how their desirable either. For the price I’d much rather get a Mercedes, Cadillac, maybe even a Pontiac. Compared to the last generation Camry, the Fusions is really nice; and still is, but behind.

Commodore- I’ll consider your figure to be true, I had read Accord, since the last generation has come out has had fleet sales averaging 16%, and Camry at 17%.

So no matter the reality of the situation, prices for the used Honda toasters remain high. That said, the high price isn’t reflective of current build quality, IMHO.

But I’m sure someone will pipe up to ‘correct’ me…

Actually, the Fusions been in really high demand since it’s release, just as much so as the Edge. It’s been one of Fords hottest selling products, and overall is selling well. On average they don’t stay on the lot for too long (I couldn’t find a specific figure, but it’s one of the lowest of the Midsize/Full size sedan department).

And also, the Ford Fusion has been ranked highest in customer satisfaction, ranked high from JD Power and Associates, and rated very high in interior quality. The Fusion is “conquesting” buyers from other brands at a rate of 38.5 percent, more than Fords original 25% estimation, and fleet sales are only at 16%, better than Camry and Accord.

jayjc08: if I was in the market for a midsizer, a legacy or mazda 6 would be for me.

A Fusion will sit on a lot, but the Accord will sell.

If you are a car dealer, the metal needs to move.

Personally, I would go with the Ford Fusion. I would advise you to do such. I know I’ve proven my point so far; even the example you gave me for the Camry and Fusion, the Fusion held it’s value better (Camry held 66% and Fusion held 73%)… Are you going to call yourself a liar?

injunraiv- True.

I looked up a comparably equipped Honda Accord and Ford Fusion to compare. The sources I used were Automobilemag, Car and Driver and Honda’s Home Website.

2006 Honda Accord LX Sedan, 4-cyl.
Base price: $22,995
Depreciation:
Yr 1.) $5,131
Yr 2.) $3,081
Yr 3.) $2,631
Yr 4.) $2,929
Yr 5.) $2,800
Average Resale: $14,895

2006 Ford Fusion SE, 4 cyl.
Base Price: $18,995
Depreciation:
Yr 1.) $4,582
Yr 2.) $1,688
Yr 3.) $1,420
Yr 4.) $1,632
Yr 5.) $1,510
Resale: $13,685

As you can see the Ford Fusion has a higher resale compared to the Honda Accord, which was sold at four grand more. I verified sources between Car and Driver and Automobilemag to make sure they were true, or atleast similar.