No bullshit examples just answer the question below
why GM has so many recalls and has lower resale than comparable J2 cars?

Monte is at it again just riding Beatus’s ass now Once again with no comments or proof to back up anything you say
How about the Million mile Hondas? Why don’t you address that buddy???

-Jack Handey

wtf dude wtf GM donated those cars to the united way. The united way got the full million from a private individual who saw the value of that car to be $1000000 and bought it.

Bubs Please explain to me why most of those cars have crate engines and not the original parts?

once again wtf… most of these car are original.

Once you answer that why dont you tell me why Barrett Jackson matters ??

The same reason kbb matters. It doesn’t. I just would like to know if you think a high resale value for a vehicle is directly correlated to a low depreciation value for that said vehicle that’s all. Example car D had a retail price of $32000, in three years it’s worth 17500. Car J had a retail price of $23000 and in three years is worth $15000. Which car has a higher resale value car D or car J. Which one depreciated more in those three years. Which one was the smarter buy?
These are not trick questions I am just curious how you define “higher resale value”.
D or J 1115 D or J

Bubs Please explain to me why most of those cars have crate engines and not the original parts?
Please tell me this, are more people buying new cars or restored cars from BJ or not ?

Once you answer that why dont you tell me why Barrett Jackson matters ??

Then you can explain why GM has so many recalls and has lower resale than comparable J2 cars ?

So 1115 would you say that that resale value is much better than a Toyota or way better than a Toyota???

Black Toyota Corolla SS at my college.

I feel bad for the people who can’t spot what’s wrong with that…

Yesterday, on the way to work, I saw a girl in her car waiting for the 4-way stop sign to turn green. My wife and I laughed.

Later, on my way to pick up my kids from my parents’ house, I saw a guy in his car waiting for the 4-way stop sign to turn green. I thought it was funny, but twice in one day? That was a little weird.

Is gm selling ANY NEW cars for more than 1 000 000 dollars ?

you can scroll up and check The car is fast Im sure and the roof had a recall so It just may fly off So you are WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

“Then don’t drive a GM” – I don’t drive a GM. I never said I did.

“Because we are different people with different needs and wants” is a response to the question “Why?”, not a fragment. It is allowed in writing.

“There always has to be the peacemaker asshole that can’t disprove anything that I say. Since you insulted me I had to retaliate.”

I am not a peacemaker. Ask iHustle. The only thing that is being proven is how big of an asshole you are.

MAYBE he isn’t as worried about reliability as you are is because he is able to diagnose, maintain, and repair his own vehicles? Or simply, would rather enjoy his driving experience then drive my grandmothers Camry?

There are people in the world 1115, who don’t add up everything on a calculator or worry about resale values. My friend risks his Jeep by taking it off-roading for FUN, I risk my safety by riding a motorcycle for FUN, my other friend blew the engine on his HONDA drag-racing it for FUN.

Maybe you live life by your boring reliability/safety/resale code, but not me.

And stop deflecting the argument, you DO proclaim victory all the time because you consider your facts and opinions right 100% of the time. Don’t go trying to prove something else. btw none of that was to me, I didn’t even post on the Volt page.

The first production ZR1 went for almost 2MIL. I believe that it came out this year? O… YA it did. All original parts too.

WRONG! Barrett-Jackson: First 2009 Corvette ZR1 Sells at Auction for $1,000,000 not over 1 million like I said. YA you are wrong! Lets hope the roof doesn’t fly off

Your spelling is atrocious, and your sentence structure is worse – Refer to the first comment oh and “Because we are different people with different needs and wants” is a fragment

There always has to be the peacemaker asshole that can’t disprove anything that I say. Since you insulted me I had to retaliate

“Once again you cant R E A D and you are O W N E D and F I N I S H ED
Geez this is easy”

“You may go to bed now or better yet make another mindless comment so I can defeat you again”

It took me 30 seconds to find those three things in the volt thread.

I never said you used the phrase “Victory is mine”… But I guess if you want to twist the argument that direction go ahead…

Did you look up the word infallible yet?

And if YOU choose to define a “good” car as having good resale value, reliability, and low recalls well… There are cars from many companies that fit those criteria, even GM…

I define a “Good” car in other ways personally, but that’s just me.

TripleOneFive, it’s good that you have a firm opinion on what you like and what is better for you. However, it is only an opinion. It is based on facts and attributes that you desire, but it is still an opinion, whether you like it or not. I also have an opinion about cars. A better car to me is one that handles well, accelerates unexpectedly well, but most importantly, it has a well designed interior (that I like) that is comfortable and doesn’t look cheap. But just because I like those things does not mean I will get those things in my next car. However, interior design tops my list. I can openly see your opinion that you prefer resale value and reliability over all other attributes. I feel my car may be better than yours because it’s quicker in the quarter mile and my whole family can ride comfortably in it while I race you. But you feel your car is better than mine because yours has a higher price on KBB.com and because you seldom need to repair it. Repairs don’t bother me.

The point is this: We will never agree on which is “better.” Why? Because we are different people with different needs and wants. Other than the fact that we like cars and read Left Lane News, there really is no common ground. Just because you have an opinion that is different than mine does not mean that you are wrong. It also does not mean that I am. We are only different.

There IS one part in which you are wrong, though. It has nothing to do with facts, with Toyota, with GM, with cars, or anything else. Where you are wrong is your attitude, your method, your refusal to respect another person’s opinion. Respecting one’s opinion does not mean embracing it as your own. It means acknowledging their opinion, realizing where they stand and why, and accepting that their opinion is different from yours.

Instead, you go about and try to prove why their opinion is wrong. You may feel you succeed in doing so, but you do not. Your writing is entirely transparent, your arguments hold little if any water, you confuse fallacies with real logic, and you present your argument in a manner that is haughty, rude, and not conducive to intellectual thought and stimulation. The only thing you succeed in doing is showing us what a close-minded @$$hole you are.

I have no intention in trying to prove you are wrong in your argument against GM. I respect how you feel about GM and how you feel about Honda and Toyota. You are entitled to that opinion. In the same vein, others are entitled to their opinions and should not be discounted for feeling differently. If you were truly intellectually honest, you would be able to spark meaningful conversation where you can give and receive information. Instead, you choose to give information, and refuse to receive any edification.

One more thing, you have no room to correct anyone else’s spelling. Please refrain from doing so in the future. Your spelling is atrocious, and your sentence structure is worse.

“At every turn I win”

You talk about how you’ve “won” all the time, don’t lie to my face.

And I think you just proved how you consider yourself infallible and just belittle the arguments of anyone who disagrees with you when you say…

“I speak the truth. The people on this board can’t take it and resort to insults; fortunately I’m great at insults as well so I still come out on top”

If you need to, go look up the word “infallible”

I think you have nothing better to do all day then figure out ways to make American companies look bad, and you narrow your focus down to the TWO things you know you can generally find facts to back you up, recalls and resale.

You worship Toyota like my buddies back in Texas worshipped their football teams, it’s a little pathetic.

A good car is a good car, period. And I respect cars from America, Europe, and Japan for doing whatever job they do well. You need to stop breathing exhaust fumes and realize that just because GM might have it’s issues, that doesn’t mean they can’t build a good car.

I think they call it restoring when they change the parts?- SO they are not the original parts Thanks again
Is gm selling ANY NEW cars for more than 1 000 000 dollars ?

I think he brought up Barret- Jackson because he has no facts to discuss. Its also has nothing to do with the original argument so once he answers the questions I posed to him he will invalidate his questions just like you

I get it I know you are afraid to answer the questions posed. I already had you admit I have the fact You already said that GM has more recalls than Toyota. Now you are struggling and asking silly questions that prove nothing. Car shows and 1932 have nothing to do with anything today

You have to go to bed knowing I am right and you are wrong and sad.You can use any incarnation of 1115 you want but you are a sorry person who cant win an argument, you a shitty car and you have proven me right once again

So 1115 explain resale value to me. It seems you forgot to on your last post.

“Bubs Please explain to me why most of those cars have crate engines and not the original parts?
Also why have all of them had body work?. Please tell me this, are more people buying new cars or restored cars from BJ or not ? Once you answer that why dont you tell me why Barrett Jackson matters ??’
I’m not Bubs, but you are proving again how smart you are. I think they call it restoring when they change the parts? It doesn’t mean that there was anything wrong with the original parts, but some people find cars in barns and fix them up. All of them have had body work? you oviouslly don’t watch the show. If you did watch the show you would see that the cars that go for the most money have matching numbers on them( if you know what that means?). That means some of these cars have had all the original parts for 40,50,60,70,and 80+ years. Longer that some of your j3 have even been making cars.

I think he brought up Barret- Jackson because you keep talking about re-sale value and all that is is what someone is WILLING to pay for a car. Since GM sells cars for over a MILLION dollars I think you get his point.

I’m done with you on this one you just don’t get it.

When parking a heavy vehicle with an auto tranny on a hill, if you put it in park, set the parking brake and release the foot brake in that order, the car still rolls back into the locking position on the transmission. This makes it difficult to get the car out of park the next time. Instead, you should set the parking brake, release the foot brake to let the car roll back into “brake” position, and put the transmission into park, in that order. This will save your transmission down the road.

Is it not true that GM has MORE recalls and more severe recalls than Toyota or Honda?You can site the volt thread to see

Does GM have the most recalls vehicles and lower resale value than their J2 competition? Please answer yes or no

If GM was the #1 car company in the world why havent they made reliable cars with high resale values and great quality? Also if they are the #1 car company in the world wouldn’t they be in a better financial state??

You answer me and Ill answer you just so you know who runs the show. Unfortunately for you the facts are on my side

elviososa-already spoke on that No need to say more the recall speaks for itself What are you going to say ?

Bubs Please explain to me why most of those cars have crate engines and not the original parts?
Also why have all of them had body work?. Please tell me this, are more people buying new cars or restored cars from BJ or not ? Once you answer that why dont you tell me why Barrett Jackson matters ??
Then you can explain why GM has so many recalls and has lower resale than comparable J2 cars ?

Since you want to ask stupid questions

Bubs Solo:
Barret-Jackson is the sh*t hours and hours of great cars.I don’t recall any J3 cars on there. I could be wrong, but I do see alot of muscle cars. I guess some people like GM they usually have more cars in the top 10 than anyone. I’ve even see chevys go for a Mil+, you don’t see any j3 and I mean any going for numbers even close to that.

Also I was at an auction once and they were selling Fords And Chevys and Dodges and other domestics at ridicules prices, but no corollas or celicas . What was the name of the auction??? Oh yeah Barret-Jackson was the name.

Please explain to me 1115.

Was GM the #1 car company in the WORLD for 77 years in a row?
— Refine the question I don’t dance around the facts Call things MONSTERS and ask silly questions about who is # 1. Number one is reserved for the best car manufacturer and that is the company with the resale and reliability which in this case is not GM .
Also ask yourself if GM was the #1 car company in the world would make reliable cars with high resale values and great quality? Also if they are the #1 car company in the world wouldn’t they be in a better financial state??

The because of that FACT does GM have more car’s on the road than any other car maker? Again yes or no works here too.
–They have the most recalls and lower resale value than their J@ competition . That is not #1 so please refine your question

POS car driving friend? Do you even know what kind of car I drive?
—You are driving a MONSTER car who since its inception has had a problem with its rear axle, a monster indeed Its called the Catera Touring Sedan

“I am smarter than that and you so what”
Ya..Well I know you are but what am I? Grow up.
–Sad I see that you are resorting to childish sayings. Based on the evidence i provided and the eveidence that you failed to provide The argument is in my favor

“I can look at GM shutting down plants and closing brands then having recalls on their old and new products.
—–I think that trumps your “sales” data to shreds Shameful Are the GM recalls “MONSTERS” as well ???” You never answered this with a yes or no …..

You answered your own question there. Closing brands and factories probably go hand and hand, and every car company has recalls get your head out of your a**.

—-Yes but GM has MORE recalls and the ones they have are more severe than floor mats or exhaust tips on Toyotas

I’m still waiting for you answer on that “sales” data. Gm could close more plants and the still would have more than the j3 do.

Come on buddy GM pays more people retirement money in this country than the j3 even employee.

—Once again more doesn’t make them #1.It’s J2 buddy and once again I don’t care about retirement. I care about the reliability and quality of my vehicle. I guess whatever J2 is doing is working bc they have better longer lasting vehicles than D3 GM Especially
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“When I get on the board and see that there is a recall from a ****ty car company I think about one ****tier company within that company and its just natural that your name is brought up.”
So let me get this part straight I’m a ****tier company in a ***ty company? WTF?? I’ll need more info on how your head works to trually understand what you mean there, but it get’s better so let’s move on.

“On the rare occasion that there is a minor Japanese recall you and every other idiot mention me more than you mention the subject at hand so you know the deal.”
That is you again. This might be the funniest part. I love you choice wording ” rare occasion” and the big winner “minor”.

“I can tell you are running out of material”
Ya…how can you tell?

“You have no choice. I proved my point over and over again All you have is opinions and stubbornness”
You made zero point in everything you said. That last part if that’s not the horse calling the kettle black.

“I love seeing you scramble for an answer lol Its so funny You are out of steam my POS car driving friend”
So I’m scrambling for an answer? You didn’t ever answer MY question. I’ll give you another chance and a simple yes or no will do enough dancing around fact’s. Was GM the #1 car company in the WORLD for 77 years in a row? Remember yes or no answers only. The because of that FACT does GM have more car’s on the road than any other car maker? Again yes or no works here too.
POS car driving friend? Do you even know what kind of car I drive?

“I am smarter than that and you so what”
Ya..Well I know you are but what am I? Grow up.

“I can look at GM shutting down plants and closing brands then having recalls on their old and new products. I think that trumps your “sales” data to shreds Shameful Are the GM recalls “MONSTERS” as well ???”
You answered your own question there. Closing brands and factories probably go hand and hand, and every car company has recalls get your head out of your a**. I’m still waiting for you answer on that “sales” data. Gm could close more plants and the still would have more than the j3 do. Come on buddy GM pays more people retirement money in this country than the j3 even employee.

Get back to me when you get the chance.I’ll be waiting for those yes or no answers.

Provide some proof to anything you are saying

I corrected your spelling for your own good not to “sting ” you, I have already done that several times

As far as the Nissan thing thanks for providing proof, until you do that I will not answer any of your nonsensical questions

Also you asked for a million mile Japanese vehicle and I provided a million mile Honda car and a second Honda with 940k. I noticed that you shut up on that so its did I miss anything ??

Its just another example of your failure to make any good points. No matter what you have done I have had a better answer. I’m guessing that you are hoping to redeem yourself but it’s highly doubtful that will happen