Comments on: GM seeing mixed results with eBay program http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CajuRican http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480139 CajuRican Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:40:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480139 @leftwingagenda "don’t presume the internet user is a dumbass that will click buy it now and pay 2% more for the vehicle…" I would think, if anything, the internet user is quite a bit more savvy than the typical customer that walks through the doors. They should be trying to lure the internet shopper with a lower "Buy It Now" price. @leftwingagenda

“don’t presume the internet user is a dumbass that will click buy it now and pay 2% more for the vehicle…”

I would think, if anything, the internet user is quite a bit more savvy than the typical customer that walks through the doors. They should be trying to lure the internet shopper with a lower “Buy It Now” price.

]]> By: h82w8 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480112 h82w8 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:50:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480112 @ beatusmongous and leftwingagenda: GM could let the market set the prices with no reserves and not piss of the dealers by making up for any difference between dealer cost and an agreed upon mark up. I like this idea MUCH more than the fiasco that c4c has become. @ beatusmongous and leftwingagenda:

GM could let the market set the prices with no reserves and not piss of the dealers by making up for any difference between dealer cost and an agreed upon mark up.

I like this idea MUCH more than the fiasco that c4c has become.

]]> By: beatusmongous http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480095 beatusmongous Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:05:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480095 Jbulth, that's exactly what LeftWing was talking about. If GM left the reserve off, the buyers would effectively be setting the prices, and the dealers would have no say in the matter. Giving that kind of power to the buyers would make for some really upset dealers that could possibly lose their shirts through eBay. Jbulth, that’s exactly what LeftWing was talking about. If GM left the reserve off, the buyers would effectively be setting the prices, and the dealers would have no say in the matter. Giving that kind of power to the buyers would make for some really upset dealers that could possibly lose their shirts through eBay.

]]> By: Noah http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480092 Noah Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:10:21 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480092 I don't see how this can work. Once people see the price range of a car that they are willing to sell it for, then by and large, that will be the going price. I doubt competition etc will change this much I don’t see how this can work. Once people see the price range of a car that they are willing to sell it for, then by and large, that will be the going price. I doubt competition etc will change this much

]]> By: velvet6gt http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480090 velvet6gt Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:16:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480090 So... GM is adapting to the dealers style of "selling", screw the public. A dealer in Avondale, AZ had a $1000 markup on the new Camaros, but has since raised it to $4000. They cried when they couldn't sell cars, and now that they have one popular model they want to make up for it by jacking up the prices. Hasn't anyone heard of volume selling? They deserve what they get. My wife likes the Camaro, but it will never happen. The Challenger looked good, but Dodge raised the prices. That sure will sell more cars. I guess that leaves the old dependable Mustang. So… GM is adapting to the dealers style of “selling”, screw the public. A dealer in Avondale, AZ had a $1000 markup on the new Camaros, but has since raised it to $4000. They cried when they couldn’t sell cars, and now that they have one popular model they want to make up for it by jacking up the prices. Hasn’t anyone heard of volume selling? They deserve what they get.

My wife likes the Camaro, but it will never happen. The Challenger looked good, but Dodge raised the prices. That sure will sell more cars. I guess that leaves the old dependable Mustang.

]]> By: jbulth39 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480051 jbulth39 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 02:55:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480051 Leftwing, the dealers are not setting the eBay prices. GM is. If someone buys the car over ebay they are directed to the dealership who has that car in stock. Leftwing, the dealers are not setting the eBay prices. GM is. If someone buys the car over ebay they are directed to the dealership who has that car in stock.

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-480021 Borat Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:39:55 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-480021 It was all done within one state and one state only and with agreement with ALL dealers. You know the price could not possibly be higher. Buyer be ware. It was all done within one state and one state only and with agreement with ALL dealers. You know the price could not possibly be higher. Buyer be ware.

]]> By: armstealer http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479997 armstealer Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:27:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479997 Just for kicks, look up completed auctions of Pontiac Solstices. I was thinking of listing my '06, but after seeing those fantabulous results... ...its no wonder GM hasn't sold any. ebay is dead. Just for kicks, look up completed auctions of Pontiac Solstices. I was thinking of listing my ’06, but after seeing those fantabulous results…
…its no wonder GM hasn’t sold any. ebay is dead.

]]> By: leftwingagenda http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479988 leftwingagenda Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:26:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479988 if GM experimented with that, the dealers would revolt...imagine if GM suddenly became a sales competitor by offering direct sales at reduced cost while bypassing the dealer network...oh boy...riots! if GM experimented with that, the dealers would revolt…imagine if GM suddenly became a sales competitor by offering direct sales at reduced cost while bypassing the dealer network…oh boy…riots!

]]> By: Mutant@DCX http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479977 Mutant@DCX Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:49:56 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479977 They should experiment with no reserve on every car for a month. GM would rule sales. They should experiment with no reserve on every car for a month. GM would rule sales.

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479972 johnnycanuck Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:30:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479972 Might as well have called it the 'Ignore It Now' price. Might as well have called it the ‘Ignore It Now’ price.

]]> By: AutoCritical http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479954 AutoCritical Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:14:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479954 Something about PayPal increasing their fees? :P Something about PayPal increasing their fees? :P

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479908 Borat Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:21:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479908 Now, how one of those 45 schmacks feel? Hopefully nothing. Cow is not unhappy because she is a cow? Obviously it has to be room for schmacks under the sun, but to dismay of GM management, there are very few who stooped to their level of dumbness. Now, how one of those 45 schmacks feel? Hopefully nothing. Cow is not unhappy because she is a cow? Obviously it has to be room for schmacks under the sun, but to dismay of GM management, there are very few who stooped to their level of dumbness.

]]> By: leftwingagenda http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479906 leftwingagenda Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:18:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479906 this would work much better if the buy it now price was either invoice, or the bottom line lowest price the dealer can accept...kind of a no-haggle buy it now price...that would result in more ebay sales...unfortunately the dealers did exactly what i hoped they wouldn't, which is set the buy it now at a level nobody in their right mind would pay...greedy dumbasses... as mayer pointed out, anybody looking at ebay already has access to half a dozen different ways to get a sense for the real world price for the car...don't presume the internet user is a dumbass that will click buy it now and pay 2% more for the vehicle... this would work much better if the buy it now price was either invoice, or the bottom line lowest price the dealer can accept…kind of a no-haggle buy it now price…that would result in more ebay sales…unfortunately the dealers did exactly what i hoped they wouldn’t, which is set the buy it now at a level nobody in their right mind would pay…greedy dumbasses…

as mayer pointed out, anybody looking at ebay already has access to half a dozen different ways to get a sense for the real world price for the car…don’t presume the internet user is a dumbass that will click buy it now and pay 2% more for the vehicle…

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479900 Bosley Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:10:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479900 Plus, the high cost of cars these days makes most people (well, me at least) want to be sure that they are making the right purchase. Being there in person is the best way to do that, imho..... Plus, the high cost of cars these days makes most people (well, me at least) want to be sure that they are making the right purchase. Being there in person is the best way to do that, imho…..

]]> By: Bosley http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479899 Bosley Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:09:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479899 Haggling in person is a large part of showing up at a dealership. Not too mention that things often look different in person than in a photograph. Things like the look of a paint colour can change drastically, not too mention the entire look of the vehicle in person because of scale and perspective. So I'm not surprised online sales aren't living up to expectations. But the website should at least act like an online catalog that helps to bring some more people into showrooms in person. But it's definitely NOT the eBay page that is causing it all. Haggling in person is a large part of showing up at a dealership. Not too mention that things often look different in person than in a photograph. Things like the look of a paint colour can change drastically, not too mention the entire look of the vehicle in person because of scale and perspective.
So I’m not surprised online sales aren’t living up to expectations. But the website should at least act like an online catalog that helps to bring some more people into showrooms in person. But it’s definitely NOT the eBay page that is causing it all.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479893 A4 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:01:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479893 Ebay Motors is a sorry excuse to overpay for something you can haggle for if you get off your lazy ass. Ebay Motors is a sorry excuse to overpay for something you can haggle for if you get off your lazy ass.

]]> By: JakeK66 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479891 JakeK66 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:54:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479891 "GM’s ‘Buy It Now’ option has also proven to be an early flop. So far no customers have opted for the Buy It Now feature, with high prices a likely culprit. According to Edmunds, GM’s Buy It Now prices average about 2 percent above the average market price." I finally have some faith in humanity “GM’s ‘Buy It Now’ option has also proven to be an early flop. So far no customers have opted for the Buy It Now feature, with high prices a likely culprit. According to Edmunds, GM’s Buy It Now prices average about 2 percent above the average market price.”

I finally have some faith in humanity

]]> By: mayer_ray_nagin http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479870 mayer_ray_nagin Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:44:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479870 So, they attribute "looking at the cars on eBay" to getting people in the showroom. I guess they assume the same people would not have looked at the GM website, carsdirect, autotrader, LLN, etc. No no no, it was the eBay visit that got them into the showrooms. Typical corporate BS ..... ........ <i> "I swear despite the mediocre results my grand idea was a resounding success! ........ All those people in the showroom are because of me!!!!!" </i> Meh So, they attribute “looking at the cars on eBay” to getting people in the showroom. I guess they assume the same people would not have looked at the GM website, carsdirect, autotrader, LLN, etc. No no no, it was the eBay visit that got them into the showrooms.

Typical corporate BS …..
…….. “I swear despite the mediocre results my grand idea was a resounding success!
…….. All those people in the showroom are because of me!!!!!”

Meh

]]> By: Sgt Pepper http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479868 Sgt Pepper Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:31:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479868 If the barrel of oil keeps climbing i'm sure searches for the Aveo will go up too. If the barrel of oil keeps climbing i’m sure searches for the Aveo will go up too.

]]> By: DenverGuy217 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-seeing-mixed-results-with-ebay-program.html#comment-479865 DenverGuy217 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:26:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=20571#comment-479865 Unfortunately for GM, the Pontiac G8 was the most searched nameplate in California, a model that is set to ride off into the sunset after the 2009 model year. ARGH! Yeh GM I wonder how many people searched out an Aveo Unfortunately for GM, the Pontiac G8 was the most searched nameplate in California, a model that is set to ride off into the sunset after the 2009 model year.

ARGH! Yeh GM I wonder how many people searched out an Aveo

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