Comments on: GM spreads six-speed automatic/four-cylinder combination across line http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: LS7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403857 LS7 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:23:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403857 A4: How do you figure? The 2.5L 5-cyl only makes 170HP. GM, with 2.4L and similar 6-speed, makes 169HP, but trumps the VW in fuel mileage. I'm not quite sure where you are getting your stats from. But you seem like a typical Audi driver, who is confused about real life results from the "technology" that the car maker employees. You are more interested in how they do it, rather than what they do with it. A4: How do you figure? The 2.5L 5-cyl only makes 170HP. GM, with 2.4L and similar 6-speed, makes 169HP, but trumps the VW in fuel mileage. I’m not quite sure where you are getting your stats from. But you seem like a typical Audi driver, who is confused about real life results from the “technology” that the car maker employees. You are more interested in how they do it, rather than what they do with it.

]]> By: sj79 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403642 sj79 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:24:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403642 A4, The VW 2.5L makes 170hp which is less than the output of the 4's offered by Honda, Nissan and Hyundai. GM's 2.4L makes 169hp. VWs with the 2.5L arent all that efficient. A4,

The VW 2.5L makes 170hp which is less than the output of the 4′s offered by Honda, Nissan and Hyundai. GM’s 2.4L makes 169hp. VWs with the 2.5L arent all that efficient.

]]> By: Jax http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403615 Jax Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:12:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403615 The cirrent Sonata does not have the powertrain and mileage listed above. The cirrent Sonata does not have the powertrain and mileage listed above.

]]> By: A4 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403603 A4 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:50:35 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403603 LS7 VW sells the 5 cylinder here because the 4 cylinder version does not meet US emissions.. that said, it has got a good bump in power for this year, and is significantly more powerful than comparably priced 4-cylinders. Once you get to accord coupe and civic Si price you get to 2.0T pricing as well. LS7 VW sells the 5 cylinder here because the 4 cylinder version does not meet US emissions.. that said, it has got a good bump in power for this year, and is significantly more powerful than comparably priced 4-cylinders. Once you get to accord coupe and civic Si price you get to 2.0T pricing as well.

]]> By: LS7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403575 LS7 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:42:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403575 opps.. i meant inefficient for VW & Ford. opps.. i meant inefficient for VW & Ford.

]]> By: LS7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403574 LS7 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:42:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403574 Good call on Chevy. Toyota Camry 4cyl 5speed: 21/31mpg Honda Accord 4cyl 5speed: 21/31mpg Hyundai Sonata 4cyl 4speed: 21/30mpg Ford Fusion 4cyl 5speed: 20/28mpg Chrysler Sebring 4cyl 4speed: 21/30mpg VW Jetta 5cyl 6speed: 21/29mpg Chevorlet Malibu 4cyl 4speed: 22/30mpg Chevorlet Malibu 4cyl 6speed: 22/33mpg According to http://www.fueleconomy.gov, Malibu just became BEST IN CLASS, by implementing their 6-speed tranny. As usual, the most efficient vehicles belong to Ford & VW. Especially VW. I love how they try to duck the direct comparison with 5-cyl, however it does not make any more power than almost everyone's 4-cyl. Yet it is the most cramped, and gets one of the worst gas mileage out of all of them, despite their own 6speed. VW makes pretty, but horriblely engineered cars. Anyone that talks crap about German engineering and efficiency should have their head examined. Accord, for example, is HUGE compared to the Jetta--yet makes just as much power, and gets better fuel consumption, with less gears. Of course, the real hidden gem of the bunch happens to be the Accord Coupe, with 190HP 4-cyl that gets exact same mileage as the lesser 177HP found in the sedan. Good call on Chevy.
Toyota Camry 4cyl 5speed: 21/31mpg
Honda Accord 4cyl 5speed: 21/31mpg
Hyundai Sonata 4cyl 4speed: 21/30mpg
Ford Fusion 4cyl 5speed: 20/28mpg
Chrysler Sebring 4cyl 4speed: 21/30mpg
VW Jetta 5cyl 6speed: 21/29mpg
Chevorlet Malibu 4cyl 4speed: 22/30mpg
Chevorlet Malibu 4cyl 6speed: 22/33mpg
According to http://www.fueleconomy.gov, Malibu just became BEST IN CLASS, by implementing their 6-speed tranny. As usual, the most efficient vehicles belong to Ford & VW. Especially VW. I love how they try to duck the direct comparison with 5-cyl, however it does not make any more power than almost everyone’s 4-cyl. Yet it is the most cramped, and gets one of the worst gas mileage out of all of them, despite their own 6speed. VW makes pretty, but horriblely engineered cars. Anyone that talks crap about German engineering and efficiency should have their head examined. Accord, for example, is HUGE compared to the Jetta–yet makes just as much power, and gets better fuel consumption, with less gears. Of course, the real hidden gem of the bunch happens to be the Accord Coupe, with 190HP 4-cyl that gets exact same mileage as the lesser 177HP found in the sedan.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403571 1c3d0g Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:12:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403571 About damn time, if you ask me! About damn time, if you ask me!

]]> By: Bimmer http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403553 Bimmer Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:34:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403553 'GM spreads six-speed automatic/four-cylinder combination across line' What line? You should say across line of mid-size cars, as I don't see <b>entire</b> line of GM cars getting six-speed automatic! ‘GM spreads six-speed automatic/four-cylinder combination across line’
What line? You should say across line of mid-size cars, as I don’t see entire line of GM cars getting six-speed automatic!

]]> By: bigp http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403533 bigp Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:27:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403533 go for it go for it

]]> By: ktulu http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403526 ktulu Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:50:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403526 What's the pint? I say make 'em al PRNDL toyota's 20R was crap What’s the pint?
I say make ‘em al PRNDL

toyota’s 20R was crap

]]> By: C6Racer http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403440 C6Racer Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:29:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403440 Sweet. Sweet.

]]> By: rds130 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403432 rds130 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403432 I agree with johnnycanuck. Can't believe I said that, but I prefer MTs to ATs. Although, I prefer a GOOD AT to a bad MT anyday, so I say bring on the sixers. I agree with johnnycanuck. Can’t believe I said that, but I prefer MTs to ATs. Although, I prefer a GOOD AT to a bad MT anyday, so I say bring on the sixers.

]]> By: DrFill http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403431 DrFill Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:06:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403431 Toyota needs to kick it up with a whole new drivetrain! The Camry is due for a facelift, so I await a response Toyot is supposed to release a line of "Valvematic" engines by 2010. And the Camry is supposed thav a new engine with more power to fight Altima and Accord. THe Corolla and Camry fours are ancient, but tried and true. The Camry's 2.4 is just a bored out old 2.2 DrFill Toyota needs to kick it up with a whole new drivetrain!
The Camry is due for a facelift, so I await a response
Toyot is supposed to release a line of “Valvematic” engines by 2010.
And the Camry is supposed thav a new engine with more power to fight Altima and Accord.
THe Corolla and Camry fours are ancient, but tried and true.
The Camry’s 2.4 is just a bored out old 2.2
DrFill

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403426 johnnycanuck Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:41:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403426 I'd still rather have my 6 gears come with a third pedal. I’d still rather have my 6 gears come with a third pedal.

]]> By: RaineMan http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403416 RaineMan Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:11:30 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403416 It's about damn time. Now if they can put that unit into the Cruze they'll really have something. It’s about damn time. Now if they can put that unit into the Cruze they’ll really have something.

]]> By: oldman420 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403396 oldman420 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:10:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403396 Too bad these vehicles are rattle traps built with no trim and body quality. Decent drive trains with the ecotec/6 speed auto. I still would wait to see if they have problems with the 6t40's. Too bad these vehicles are rattle traps built with no trim and body quality. Decent drive trains with the ecotec/6 speed auto. I still would wait to see if they have problems with the 6t40′s.

]]> By: cookie4me http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403395 cookie4me Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:09:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403395 This transmission (co-developed by GM/FORD) was implemented more quickly and more effectively by Ford across their model lines. GMs 4 speed has been superior to other 4 speed trannies so I suppose they had a vested interest in hanging on to it as long as possible but that kind of thing tends to leave one in the dust when others move more quickly to something better. This transmission (co-developed by GM/FORD) was implemented more quickly and more effectively by Ford across their model lines. GMs 4 speed has been superior to other 4 speed trannies so I suppose they had a vested interest in hanging on to it as long as possible but that kind of thing tends to leave one in the dust when others move more quickly to something better.

]]> By: crackerhemi http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403393 crackerhemi Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:00:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403393 I agree. Toyota needs to kick it up a notch with some more gears. I agree. Toyota needs to kick it up a notch with some more gears.

]]> By: jayjc08 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-spreads-six-speed-automaticfour-cylinder-combination-across-line.html#comment-403390 jayjc08 Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:57:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=8404#comment-403390 Hmm... and why won't Toyota admit this for their four speeds? Hmm… and why won’t Toyota admit this for their four speeds?

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