Good news for Mexico. I wonder if most of the car manufactured in Mexico (engine, transmission, suspension, brakes) is it still patriotic to buy one? Is it patriotic if it has has GM label and not patriotic if Nissan? If one buys Honda or Toyota completely build in US he is traitor? or just import humper?

LOL
I love that GM not only closed plants in Detroit in the 80’s (when they were profitable) and moved them to Mexico and they build engines in Mexico. Meanwhile Honda and Toyota have factories here in the USA that employ Americans and people still have issues with the superior Japanese companies.
GM has sold out Americans and the domestic humpers just love the abuse. Keep the money in the states and not in Mexico

I WAS A GERMAN HUMPER. IT WAS GOOD!!!
oh **** car related no no i think its ok gm honda all good all really good
DA

Nissan and Toyota have plants in Mexico, too. So does VW.

Is GM not supposed to compete there? GM has not one, not two or three, but more than 20 manufacturing plants in the US. They employ FAR more Americans at FAR higher wages and benefits than Toyota, BMW, Benz, Nissan, Hyundai, and Honda do. And one of the plants GM just announced closure on was in…wait for it…MEXICO.

GM can do no right by trying to get competitive. Toyota and the rest can do no wrong by not being American.

Do you really blame GM for going to Mexico for labor? I mean, with all the union strikes and such, I’d be afraid to as well. Doesn’t Toyota have a policy of no unions? It would make it easy for a company that recently moved production here to easily start facilities without unions. Whereas GM has been here for quite some time and had good relationships with unions, until someone decided that it’d be fun to see how greedy they could get.

Hey, Toyota does plenty wrong (have you seen Camry lately?). But they also happen to do a lot of right stuff – for some reason they sell more cars then GM. My sarcasm was not at GM, well yes it was at GM management and posters who continuously spill venom to everything which is not GM or Ford. I have genuine respect for GM engineers who manage to manufacture under utterly dysfunctional management and bureaucracy. However, one must give credit to Asian transplants for producing right here in US and doing better job at the moment then GM, Ford & Chrysler. Although great deal of “domestic” manufacturing occur in Mexico at lower labor cost, it does not exactly translate into brake for US consumer. Even crap made in Korea cost as much or more then Japanese competition.

Umm wait for it ………GM still closed plants in America to send them to MEXICO wait for it …….. WHEN THEY WERE PROFITABLE..um wait for it ………..LEAVING AMERICANS WITHOUT JOBS ………wait for it …YOU ARE A JACKASS

Buy American folks, don’t buy GM.

Toyota doesn’t have a policy on unions. They have no control over unions, the workers vote a union in if they want one. The only reason workers don’t vote a union in at jap companies is because japs pick the most isolated areas where people have no option but to work for toyota/honda or move somewhere and hope to get a job. The jap companies prey on the unskilled, rural workforce who are grateful to make $12-14 an hour and work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

^^^ Great Ronald Regan used to say ” Here you go again”. Where do you get this **** from? Are you inventing it on a fly? Toyota’s first assembly in US was in California, hardly isolated or union free environment. There is factory in Kentucky, not far from Indiana, I believe. Toyota factories are close to population hubs and transportation hubs (which for the last 5 thousand years were the same thing). The working conditions and hours are subject to US laws and regulation in addition to local state laws and regulations. Workers at Toyota plants vote against union based on US labor laws, which actually favors unions since Roosevelt days.

^^^ I think you just like to argue. Kentucky being close to Indiana means NOTHING. Almost all auto manufacturing is done in the South or other places where INDUSTRY is limited.

Auto manufacturing done where states offer the biggest tax incentives. Alabama being one. But M-B builds trucks there as well and it is not far from the Gulf shipping routes. Texas is being another southern state, but what industry Texas does not have?

Your telling me the people working at the toyota plant took a vote. Between going union and making $30/hr plus good benes or make $15/hr with mediocre benes and they voted for the latter. That makes perfect sense to me? Quite kidding your self about labor in this country, the local and state politicians “guaranteed the Japanese mfg no unions”. The Japanese hold state vs state bidding wars where a winner is decided based on who will sell out their own populace the shortest. Check the contracts with the states.

ATTENTION ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN WETBACK BEANERS: Pack your **** and get back to Mehico. Jobs available IN YOUR OWN ****ING COUNTRY! Get out! I’ll mow my own ****ing lawn!

Wonder if they will make variations of this like Ford is with the 3.5 liter (Liek Lincoln getting a 3.7 liter V6). I would like to see a turbo version and a twin turbo version.

Yes they do vote, I worked in a japanese plant. There has to be a certain percentage of workers in the plant in favor for a union. If you got up off your @$$ and got a job you might know these things.

1115, way to digress from the point of the article and my comment. But I’ll meet you where you’re at.

Ever hear of a company called Nissan? When the feds started threatening fines to Nissan for its American-built vehicles not performing to CAFE standards, Nissan threatened to shutter all American production plants unless the government counted its Mexican Sentra plant in the mix. The Feds caved. And this was just two years ago, while Nissan was boasting record sales and profits.

But more to the point, GM may have closed its plants in Flint and Lordstown in the ’80s and built a few in Mexico to save money. But how is that any worse than any other American company? WE CAN’T COMPETE WITH FOREIGN COMPANIES WITH OUR WORKER WAGE STRUCTURES AS THEY ARE.

GM saw the writing on the wall 20 years ago. But did they shift ALL production elsewhere? No. The VAST MAJORITY of their automotive production is still in the US.

Truth is, when you buy a GM car, MORE of your money goes to the American Union line worker than if you buy an American-made Toyota. Because GM pays its American workers better. And employs A LOT more than Toyota, Honda, Nissan, BMW, Benz, and Hyundai COMBINED.

And since GM’s newer products are, or are becoming just as good as the foreign competition, if you want to support the American worker the most, buy from the company that employs more of them, at higher wages and benefits, and still manages to make their products competitive.

It’s also worth noting that Toyota has been to court more than once in the last couple of years for too aggressively squashing employee efforts to unionize.

Toyota has a plant in San Antonio, which is one of the largest urban areas in one of the highest-populated states in the country. GM has a plant in Arlington, TX. Guess which one’s union and which one isn’t.

The point is, our laws made it easy for the foreign competition to come into our country and undercut the domestic competition in labor and legacy costs. Our laws tilted the playing field in favor of foreign companies. And while GM, Ford, and Chrysler made stupid decisions in the ’80s and ’90s and are much to blame for their financial problems, they and the American workers they employ wouldn’t hurting as badly if our government weren’t so loosey-goosey with foreign companies trying to carpetbag our industry.

inline, GM moves to Mexico to get away from UAW. If that’s OK with you, then how Toyota maneuvering to avoid unions in US despicable? Ask Toyota workers is they want their plant to move slightly south or work without union rep who collects nice paycheck of union workers backs. What about all union dues used during political campaigns and just to pay off hookers for politicos? And laws apply to all companies. Of course all laws are subject to interpretation by lawyers, but do you want Toyota to pay for GM sheisters? Let GM management learn how to pick their own. The cost of good or bad sheister is the same: none charges less or gives discount for incompetence.
I am not against union, union had it role to protect workers from Ford and GM. However all parties involved in that relationship are guilty. Union for screwing its membership and GM for screwing union membership. You have to give credit to Asian manufacturers (all manufacturers not only cars) where credit is due: their labor relationship is above the rest of the world. Even when Japanese companies outsource processes or capacity outside of the country (Japan) there is something in it for their employees.

Inline6, that was the most accurate, credible, straight forward post I’ve seen on here regarding domestic vs foreign companies. His posts make perfect sense, only a fool can argue with them, but wait, there is one fool, XYUNYA!

HemiRetard, go back to gator swamp where you clime from.

I’m not saying Toyota is worse than GM in this regard. I’m saying that the GM bashing that ensues whenever “Mexico” is in the same sentence is completely unfounded.

Of course, Toyota has plants in Mexico that export to the US, too. Why aren’t you complaining about that as well? GM has 25 or so union plants in the US, and, what, 4 or 5 in Mexico? Toyota has, what 3 or 4 American plants. So who’s more committed to American jobs and paying American workers better?

It’s not a sign of GM’s corruption that its workers have unionized. And union dues don’t even come close to making up for the pay disparity between GM’s worker’s wages and benefits, and Toyota’s or anyone else’s.

GM is no worse than any other manufacturer. The bashing may be fashionable, but it’s unfounded and ignorant of the economic and industrial realities of today.

Der her her, Hemiretard, like I haven’t heard that, heeeerrrrrrrrrrr. xyunya you need to go back to the Immigration dept and re-learn some of that “engrish” they taught you. Better yet, go get you a webster’s dictionary.

The really big secret behind this new ‘American’ Toyota is that they have plants in and make most of their cars in Japan… Shhhh!

Yea!!! We can get Julio to make our engines for a few burritos a week and then sell them in the US for mucho $$$$$$! Sounds like a plan to me. What a joke!

And how is it that other car makers can make cars in the US without the UAW? Seems totally unfair! Union labor should be manditory for them too! This would level the playing field.

DialM4Speed, guess what, the auto makers are bunsinesses, they are out to make a profit, to do so requires them not paying a lot to produce something to sell on the market. The reason the other automakers do not have to deal with the UAW is because they were smart enough to build plants in states where a worker is not required to join the union when entering a shop.