These shutdowns also give appraisers a fair amount of time to assess the value of each plant for potential buyers.

Ooo. Ouch!

Don’t leave anything in your lockers, you may not get back in…
Be sure to thank a foreign car owner. (except in mexico since you guys are making domestic/foreign cars?)

LLL3, so true.

Canada was spared- interesting. I wonder how much of that is due to dollar?

…’the’ dollar…

how is it the fault of people who made a free decision in a free country? stupid protectionist fantasies. The US are a country open to the world, eventhough rednecks wont understand it… be sure to thank GMs upper management for making crappy decisions for 20+ years…

True that fan. BTW I bought a foriegn badged auto that was built in the town I live in, here in the USA. Pleanty of good Americans that I look at in the face everyday are grateful for that. Just sayin’.

GOOD thats 190k less POS on the road

Boy the media really know how to yup it up. GM shuts down all their plants for 2 weeks every year. So they are actually running the Vette and Malibu plant an extra week and only the plants that make large trucks are going down for a long period. With overall sales down 40% I am amazed that that is all there are shutting down.

Bowling green -1 weeks (vette)
Fairfax -1 weeks (malibu)
Wilmington 0 weeks (solstice, sky, GT)
Lordstown 1 week (Cobalt)
Missouri 1 week (large van)
Shreveport 1 week (mid size trucks)
Spring Hill 1 week (Traverse)
Lansing 2 weeks (STS, CTS)
Detroit 2 weeks (Lucerne DTS)
Pontiac 4 weeks (big trucks)
Silao 5 weeks (big trucks)
Arlington 6 weeks (big trucks)
Flint 6 weeks (big trucks)
Ft. Wayne 7 weeks (big truck)

to carstuff: Don’t bring facts into this… You’ll just summon the uber troll, whos name we don’t speak!

GM is only going to open the truck plants “IF” the dealer inventories decrease. How is that going to happen when no one will buy a GM truck?

It won’t be only GM extending shutdowns this summer!

Where’s that moron when you need him? We need his take on this news, stat!

FAN:
Rednecks? What are you talking about? Do you even know any REAL rednecks? They wont tell you how they think they would rather run you over with there truck. I think you have rednecks confused with people that are patriotic, not that rednecks can’t be patriotic.

ZFENDERGUY:
How many Americans are greatful? I’m sure it’s no where close to the number of Americans that make American cars for an American company that look at you like a sellout. That is the same BS answer ALL people that drive foriegn cars say( not people normally that drive German cars but people that drive jap cars). They always say but it’s made in the USA. It gives jobs to Americans. Like if the japs didn’t come over here those people that work for them would be standing in a field looking at the sky not knowing what to do with there lifes, like working in a factory is the only thing they can do. All I know is when I look at the CEO of GM he is American, When I look at the CEO of lets sat toy-yo-DAA he’s japanese. So since I live in America I will do the best I can to Support the country. That means buying American products from American companies. Z this is not meant all for you it’s all people that use the line but it’s made in the USA.

111FAG:
Don’t you have to go putmore money on your buss pass? Get off the computer.

CARSTUFF:
GOOD POINT. toy-yo-DAA is down 47% let’s see what happens.

people buy GM trucks, dont even try to say they dont, the silverado/sierra sales last year topped F150 sales by a substantial amount… and the colorado/canyon sell more than the ranger… GM sells roughly twice as many trucks as dodge…. at least in 2008

dont get me wrong I am cheering for the big 3 but when you manufacture a product that is far less appealing to the critical consumer in a market that is supersaturated with product. Most of the american fault is in the fit and finish of the interior, just plain cheap. sit in something as high priced as a vette and it is very blah….you have to wear arm pads in just about anything chrysler builds due to the titanium like hardness in the door bolsters. these are simple fixes in an ever changing consumer atmosphere.

andy

I won’t disagree with the Sierra/Silverado but Bullsh1t the the colorado/canyon. Let’s see some links to some numbers on that.

Very well said both “Fan” and “zfenderguy”!

People that drive Japanese cars say that, but those who buy German cars don’t? What’s with people’s animosity towards Japanese companies? Is it because they beat out GM in sales, is that why? If BMW had made cars aimed at the average consumer, would they be the bad guy? I’m a bit confused…

Because every BMW, Mercedes and Audi owner could have purchased a similar Cadillac instead. But then they’d be driving a crappy car that depreciates even faster.

Geez, all this GM bashing is making my head hurt. All i hear is people talking about how bad GM cars are blah blah blah……seriuosly it gets old. GM is trying its hardest to stay viable and all peple can do is focus on the bad. YES WE KNOW THEY BUILT CRAPPY CARS FOR A LONG TIME!! What else can you GM bashers say. You cant talk sh!t about (almost all of) their product now becuse its superior/on par with alot of foreign offerings. I feel like thats the only bullet Toyonda humpers have in their gun, what GM used to do. If you dont have anything NEW to offer to the dialouge you can jump on the STFU bus. When it all boils down to it if you live in America you’re AMERICAN and you should be standing behind one of you country’s industrys because their demise would effect OUR COUNTRY. Whether you like GM or not has jack sh!t to do with it. Lets see if GM can dig themselves out of the hole they made…..i’m not sure bout you other guys but I am all about rooting for home team!!

ED103:
Cadillac’s crappy? Last time I saw didn’t the new CTS-V beat the new M5? and isn’t the M5 the best performance car BMW makes? I’m not knocking BMW I like what they make I looked at all 3 of the makers you talked about before I got my V. My point is you CAN’T HONESTLY say Cadillac is a crappy car and think people are not going to think your crazy.

MASTERYODA2005:
I have told people for years that they should root for the HOME TEAM. Then support the HOME TEAM.

people who confuse protectionism with patriotism may not be rednecks by the book, but they’re not too far away from that…. worst of all… they really believe the sh*t they shout out all the time

190000 vehicles is almost closing a plant for a year (240,000 vehicles is normal capacity)

I am sure GM will be announcing more permament plant closings soon with the new plan.

ed103….german companies engineer and produce driving excitment japanese companies do not. people can 0-60 talk all they want with the ctsv and m5 but unless you have a car that drives on rails all that meat under the hood is no good. I am not against the japs business model in any way…all i am trying to say is that most car guys (basically everyone on lln) are not going to get excited about the new camry or prius or accord.

“dont get me wrong I am cheering for the big 3 but when you manufacture a product that is far less appealing to the critical consumer in a market that is supersaturated with product. Most of the american fault is in the fit and finish of the interior, just plain cheap. ”

Is that why Toyota’s sales are booming? Is that why Toyota’s production is down 40% or more? Thanks for cleaing that up. Its all those cars they make that are so superior to American product.

“YES WE KNOW THEY BUILT CRAPPY CARS FOR A LONG TIME!! What else can you GM bashers say.”

Nothing. These same people are nowhere to by found when LLN posts about Japanese production cuts, sales decreases or yearly losses in the billions. They only appear when they see something negative about GM. They repeat the same point over and over because they have nothing else to say.

SJ79:
You said it all. Those people only come out when the sun is out. When it rains they don’t want to get wet.

I am glad to see them finally making the hard decisions and keeping their dealer stock and cash flow in check.

in my opinion, I have never liked a GM car enough to consider buying one. I have thought that certain models looked really good on paper, and in sometimes even in pictures (CTS-V, any pre C6 Vette including Z06, Escalade,etc) but then sat in and drove a few of them, and honestly, whenever I have, the first thing wrong was the slightly more luxuriuos, but still chevy like interior. (by no means a good thing) Abysmal materials used, assembly quality, heavy and unpolished driving feel that seems to be developed with little if any passion, etc, etc,

IMO, the only exceptions being the GTO, and G8 (what do you know? not designed or built on our soil…) and looks like they could soon be dead due to nothing but years, wait, no, DECADES of GM’s careless, neglectful, irresponsible management, caring only about the profits, stockholders, (and esp their own pockets, but little about the junk they build when it comes to LONG TERM reliability and quality (longevity), first hand experience, etc, etc….

It makes me wonder if ANY of GM’s upper management and board of directors EVER OWNED one of their cars as their only vehicle, a.k.a. an every day driver. This doesn’t mean loaners, factory testers, development units, or management special 25-50% discounted units. That’s about all I have heard, from a friend who’s family is in management at GM’s design department.

If i worked for them and always got a tester to beat, why would I ever design something that you had to enjoy besides on a “drive like you hate it” , or “drive it like you stole it” basis.

With all that being said who is the best American Car Company, taking all the right steps, to serve the CONSUMER, CUSTOMER, and therefore also the EMPLOYEE, OWNER / STOCKHOLDER !?

NOT GM.

Don’t agree??

Who is bringing us significant new small models (what the market demands on an ever growing popular basis), designed and possibly built in EUROPE ?

Who is addressing their tendency to repetitively spew out the SAME engine technology year after year, decade after decade, by realizing we can’t just buy the same old crap any more?

Who is following the newest mainstream engine tech and bringing us Direct Injection and Turbocharging tech for the same or more performance with fewer emissions, better fuel economy (as well as well built and well performing affordable hybrids) ?

Who also offers good overall assembly quality, and quality materials used ?

Who is taking all of these correct steps to compete, and serve themselves, AS WELL as the people of U.S.A. ?

Ford