Comments on: GM to intro 1.4-liter turbo; to appear in cars ‘no one could imagine’ http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:39:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: frylock350 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355693 frylock350 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:55:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355693 If you put a Ram 2500 Mega Cab Cummins (a truly massive vehicle weighing well over 6500lbs) with a reinforced truck frame, monstrous and four wheel drive. Not some AWD system its 4WD (there is a difference) into a truck pull with a unibody Merc the Dodge will drag it around like it was a fisher price toy car... if it doesn't simply rip the Merc in half (due to the fact that it can't withstand the force the Ram is applying to it whereas the Ram will take it in stride). But the point of my statement was that comparing a 1.4T gasoline motor intended for economy to a turbo diesel intended for an overpriced luxury car is ludicrous. Just as ludicrous as comparing a luxury AMG model to a work truck is. Also what does somebody's gender and pregnancy status have to do with the value of their comments/opinions? Please don't degenerate in to childish insults. SS4LIFE, I think of this as a victory for American automakers if the only things people can think up to trump their basic cars are German luxury cars. The G8 for example. 5 series and E-class vehicles are constantly brought up despite the G8 being an everyman's non-luxury car. If you put a Ram 2500 Mega Cab Cummins (a truly massive vehicle weighing well over 6500lbs) with a reinforced truck frame, monstrous and four wheel drive. Not some AWD system its 4WD (there is a difference) into a truck pull with a unibody Merc the Dodge will drag it around like it was a fisher price toy car… if it doesn’t simply rip the Merc in half (due to the fact that it can’t withstand the force the Ram is applying to it whereas the Ram will take it in stride).

But the point of my statement was that comparing a 1.4T gasoline motor intended for economy to a turbo diesel intended for an overpriced luxury car is ludicrous. Just as ludicrous as comparing a luxury AMG model to a work truck is.

Also what does somebody’s gender and pregnancy status have to do with the value of their comments/opinions? Please don’t degenerate in to childish insults.

SS4LIFE, I think of this as a victory for American automakers if the only things people can think up to trump their basic cars are German luxury cars. The G8 for example. 5 series and E-class vehicles are constantly brought up despite the G8 being an everyman’s non-luxury car.

]]> By: SS4LIFE http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355687 SS4LIFE Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:43:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355687 yeah it's ok Ironhide you can admit you have a thing for underage girls... We won't judge you Ha! Too late. How is my logic non-existent when you said originally that a real turbo is a 535d when we weren't talking about anything like that to begin with? the article wasn't even talking about Diesel to begin with. And it's ok that you don't want to admit your fetish for teenage pregnant girls, we all know it anyways. yeah it’s ok Ironhide you can admit you have a thing for underage girls… We won’t judge you Ha! Too late. How is my logic non-existent when you said originally that a real turbo is a 535d when we weren’t talking about anything like that to begin with? the article wasn’t even talking about Diesel to begin with. And it’s ok that you don’t want to admit your fetish for teenage pregnant girls, we all know it anyways.

]]> By: SS4LIFE http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355682 SS4LIFE Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:35:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355682 yeah exactly that's what I am Ironhide. Because that's the only thing that gets you off i'm sure, teenage pregnant girls.... You can also say whatever you want because the retarded words that come from your keyboard only make you look bad. yeah exactly that’s what I am Ironhide. Because that’s the only thing that gets you off i’m sure, teenage pregnant girls…. You can also say whatever you want because the retarded words that come from your keyboard only make you look bad.

]]> By: SS4LIFE http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355675 SS4LIFE Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:23:29 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355675 thank you frylock350, OMG Ironhide yeah because this article is totally talking about 60k luxury sedans in the first place right? WTF are you smoking? that was the most retarded comment I've heard. Why don't you do all of us a favor and shut up the retarded comments that come from you. thank you frylock350, OMG Ironhide yeah because this article is totally talking about 60k luxury sedans in the first place right? WTF are you smoking? that was the most retarded comment I’ve heard. Why don’t you do all of us a favor and shut up the retarded comments that come from you.

]]> By: frylock350 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355672 frylock350 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:20:25 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355672 If you want to experience a real turbo try a 535d. Until then shut up. Comment by Ironhide You mean a real expensive, overcomplicated turbo. How is the BMW's turbo more "real" than this one? I can make retarded statements too. If you want to experience a real turbo drive a Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab Laramie with the Cummins Turbodiesel. That'll crush the puny Bimmer. If you want to experience a real turbo try a 535d. Until then shut up.
Comment by Ironhide

You mean a real expensive, overcomplicated turbo. How is the BMW’s turbo more “real” than this one?

I can make retarded statements too. If you want to experience a real turbo drive a Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab Laramie with the Cummins Turbodiesel. That’ll crush the puny Bimmer.

]]> By: SS4LIFE http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355663 SS4LIFE Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:00:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355663 well autonut, when you combine more efficient technology with smaller displaced engines, in smaller lighter weight compact and sub-compact vehicles they can show significant gains in fuel efficiency and performance with turbo engines. GM is doing it right with the 2.0L direct Injected turbo and inter-cooled Ecotec motors, and the 2.0L intercooled S/C Ecotec that were in the Cobalt SS/SC and Ion Redline's got pretty crappy fuel mileage (in my opinion from having one as a daily driver). Turbos have more potential with smaller displaced engines, and while everyone may hate the HHR the HHR SS gets very good gas mileage for having the new LNF motor in it. I for one am certainly welcoming this news. well autonut, when you combine more efficient technology with smaller displaced engines, in smaller lighter weight compact and sub-compact vehicles they can show significant gains in fuel efficiency and performance with turbo engines.

GM is doing it right with the 2.0L direct Injected turbo and inter-cooled Ecotec motors, and the 2.0L intercooled S/C Ecotec that were in the Cobalt SS/SC and Ion Redline’s got pretty crappy fuel mileage (in my opinion from having one as a daily driver). Turbos have more potential with smaller displaced engines, and while everyone may hate the HHR the HHR SS gets very good gas mileage for having the new LNF motor in it. I for one am certainly welcoming this news.

]]> By: 1c3d0g http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355600 1c3d0g Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:00:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355600 Great! This is what we want to see, GM! Great! This is what we want to see, GM!

]]> By: golf4me http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355552 golf4me Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:42:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355552 The 1.8T I-4 in my last VW was less efficient than the 2.5L I6 in my BMW. BMW is also a larger, slightly heavier wagon. The VW struggled to get 20mpg overall, and the BMW gets around 24 with the same driving. They were about equal on pure freeway driving, at around 30. The 1.8T I-4 in my last VW was less efficient than the 2.5L I6 in my BMW. BMW is also a larger, slightly heavier wagon. The VW struggled to get 20mpg overall, and the BMW gets around 24 with the same driving. They were about equal on pure freeway driving, at around 30.

]]> By: stick2clutch http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355532 stick2clutch Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:12:07 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355532 LLN, where is the news in this? A few months ago it was said that GM was doing away with superchargers and looking at the turbos for Cobalt and others. LLN, where is the news in this? A few months ago it was said that GM was doing away with superchargers and looking at the turbos for Cobalt and others.

]]> By: autonut http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355511 autonut Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:22:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355511 1.4 L turbo comes on FIAT 500. This car is smaller then Mini. Gasoline turbos don't have that great of a record. Diesel engines are much more suited for turbos. Perhaps GM engineers can bust that nut. 1.4 L turbo comes on FIAT 500. This car is smaller then Mini. Gasoline turbos don’t have that great of a record. Diesel engines are much more suited for turbos. Perhaps GM engineers can bust that nut.

]]> By: DeansterTJ http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355418 DeansterTJ Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:25:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355418 The VW turbo 2.0 is a killer engine. Done right, turbos are the answer The VW turbo 2.0 is a killer engine. Done right, turbos are the answer

]]> By: SwerveEarly http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355399 SwerveEarly Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:14:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355399 GB; The 3.0 twin turbo was to replace small V8s. So I thought the new 4.4 turbo was to replace v12. I have heard different media reporting it both ways. Maybe TT V10 is on way for ultra premium offerings. GB; The 3.0 twin turbo was to replace small V8s. So I thought the new 4.4 turbo was to replace v12.
I have heard different media reporting it both ways.
Maybe TT V10 is on way for ultra premium offerings.

]]> By: SwerveEarly http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355397 SwerveEarly Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:10:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355397 Less weight more power, sounds good. Look at VW 2.0 Direct Injection motor, small and efficient. Wide flat power band, good torque, no turbo lag. Doesn't sound like the old turbos at all, sounds great to me. Less weight more power, sounds good. Look at VW 2.0 Direct Injection motor, small and efficient. Wide flat power band, good torque, no turbo lag.
Doesn’t sound like the old turbos at all, sounds great to me.

]]> By: GBilbo070 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355390 GBilbo070 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:04:19 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355390 LOL @ "just recently BMW replaced the 4.8L V8 for a 4.4 turbo V8" The words "save money" and "better fuel ecconomy" dont spring too mind. LOL @ “just recently BMW replaced the 4.8L V8 for a 4.4 turbo V8″ The words “save money” and “better fuel ecconomy” dont spring too mind.

]]> By: maximus http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355389 maximus Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:01:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355389 i think it's a good idea. i think it’s a good idea.

]]> By: youngm7 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355373 youngm7 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:14:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355373 It makes sense to go to the turbo in the midsize sedans, like the Aura. The 2.0T makes more power (260) than the 3.5, and gets much better mileage. Reliablitiy I guess is the issue at this point, but that shouldn't be a big deal. It makes sense to go to the turbo in the midsize sedans, like the Aura. The 2.0T makes more power (260) than the 3.5, and gets much better mileage. Reliablitiy I guess is the issue at this point, but that shouldn’t be a big deal.

]]> By: F451 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355357 F451 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:48:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355357 @ corvette, :) @ corvette, :)

]]> By: corvette http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355326 corvette Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:43:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355326 i'm just worried about what other cars they want to put these engines into. the 2009 i-4 corvette. i’m just worried about what other cars they want to put these engines into. the 2009 i-4 corvette.

]]> By: golf4me http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355311 golf4me Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:13:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355311 Just bring diesels, dammit. Turbo gas engines are not very efficient in real world use, kinda like a hyprid. Real people will always be in boost, especially if the engine is really small, like 1.4l. Unless it's VVT & Direct Injected, and has sophisticated boost control software/hardware to eliminate lag, then it won't be efficient OR very appealing to everyday drivers, and by then, just as expensive as a diesel, without the CO2 benefits. Just bring diesels, dammit. Turbo gas engines are not very efficient in real world use, kinda like a hyprid. Real people will always be in boost, especially if the engine is really small, like 1.4l. Unless it’s VVT & Direct Injected, and has sophisticated boost control software/hardware to eliminate lag, then it won’t be efficient OR very appealing to everyday drivers, and by then, just as expensive as a diesel, without the CO2 benefits.

]]> By: frost http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355299 frost Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:44:49 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355299 it's not a bad idea to start off with their smaller cars as those are optional engines in the Astra to begin with in Europe, without the turbocharger. I wonder when Gm will give us the optional Diesel version engines for the astra. it’s not a bad idea to start off with their smaller cars as those are optional engines in the Astra to begin with in Europe, without the turbocharger. I wonder when Gm will give us the optional Diesel version engines for the astra.

]]> By: Z06ified http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html/comment-page-1#comment-355298 Z06ified Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:40:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-to-intro-14-liter-turbo-to-appear-in-cars-no-one-could-imagine.html#comment-355298 Ricers rejoice! Ricers rejoice!

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