http://www.geology.yale.edu/undergraduate/courses.html

And what are the first four classes listed? CLIMATE CHANGE! If you think all Geologist study is rock, you are gravely mistaken. What goes up must come down, and be deposited so looking at mineral deposit, rock layer can predict climate change (Long Term). I assume you are smarter than Yale professors too, so have a go at it.

And “Geo” means earth, “Logy” roughly translates to knowledge, and the atmosphere is part of it, so is the water cycle (Geomorphology), which forms cloud and when deposited in large amount on the surface, can form rivers and streams and cause erosion. But you are not interested in that and was never interested in it but YET you can so definitely tell everyone you KNOW global warming is a crock when you don’t even know who studies them. Oh I apologize this is LLN not some publication from the USGS or EPA. Still fun to see how ignorant some of the “car buff” on here are when the CAFE standard threatens to take away the fun factor.

The GMT900′s will still be around, but the CAFE regs may force GM to divert sales to smaller, more fuel efficient utility vehicles to offset the fuel economy of the GMT900 “giants”. Say the volume of GMT900′s drops by 75%… you can still get your GMT900, but as long as the demand is fairly constant, you’ll be paying a much higher premium for your 2020 Suburban.

The question that GM wants to know the answer to is: if you don’t feel like paying a high price for one of the few Suburbans kickin’ around, will you buy one of GM’s more fuel efficient alternatives or will you buy a used vehicle off a used car lot? If consumers ran for the used-car-lot hills at the sight of pricey replacements for cars/SUVs they already own, that WILL get GM’s attention.

Another way of looking at it: when the B-body wagons went bye-bye, did you buy used wagons, or did you buy the latest and greatest of this or that off the showroom floor?

I think that the American consumer, by and large, will adjust to the supply of vehicles that the carmakers put on their lots, even if CAFE regs dictate what those are to a little, or even a large, degree. Consumers like buying new cars, with warranties, and new tech, and new frills and thrills. It may mean that those who actually don’t need a pick-up truck are now not going to buy one.

Citing the fact that you froze your ass off this winter in Chicago (I’m in the Chicago ‘burbs) as proof that there is no global warming just highlights the fact that you’ve chosen not educate yourself on the depth of the problem.

Global climate change is complex, and I’m not the expert to teach anyone on this topic, but it’s probably a fair analogy to say that greenhouse gases don’t necessarily make the Earth a constantly-on microwave oven, but more of a big styrofoam container. When it’s very cold, it stays cold, when it’s very warm, it stays warm. Yes, there will be fluctuations but “global pollution” is having an effect on the extremes. On a geological time scale, the mean temperature is still probably rising.

But set that aside, this LLN article confirms that Lutz is a putz, when it comes to towing the company line. Lee Iacocca, for one, has long said that the rejuvenation of the U.S. auto industry will require government help. For Lutz to shit on the environment when it’s already a political issue that’s here to stay is sure to cause great concern at GM, especially when GM has already committed a lot of resources to developing hybrids, etc.

And frylock, I predict that there will be an economics lesson for us all in the coming years. What CAFE will likely do is highlight exactly why Americans like their big trucks, and it may be because they’ve always been available. CAFE is going to change the supply.

Americans have proved that they’re a hearty bunch. When gas prices skyrocketed, all GM companies started their “employee pricing” sale program, and GM found that big trucks and SUVs still flew off the lots.

The question is: what if back then, all those big truck and SUVs had been replaced with smaller, but more fuel efficient vehicles? Would GM still have sold so many, particularly if no one else offered big trucks and SUVs?

I predict, “yes.” Ultimately, in achieving a healthy supply-and-demand balance, I think consumers’ demand is more elastic and will change more easily to meet supply, then the other way around.

Also…have you ever thought to yourself that you anti-global warming proponents are simply tools of media hype? You say over and over again that if you believe in global warming, you’re giving into the schemes of the media…but to be frank, there is anti-global warming bullshit all over the news and in the papers, so in reality, YOU’RE a retarded victim to the hype yourself. Open your eyes bud.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060527093645.htm

While you idiot debunk Global Warming your letting the issue really at hand escape and be a detriment to the not only the environment but to the well being of yourself, your kids, family, friends, and your descendants.

The Ozone Layer is being depleted. We need to stop the V8′s over at GM- Too much Displacemnt and too much CO2- Your not environmentally friendly with your Escalade

Let me say this. I really don’t side with either Global warmist nor the idiots that say their is no Global warming or more importantly any Environmental damage- (meaning you morons in here) aka Ozone layer ok.
But here is the deal. We “Society” still pollutes the environment at an Enormous rate. There is only so much oil in the ground, fish in the sea, and places to put our trash! If you don’t believe it then start.

Like most americans I froze my ass off this winter and you can’t convince me their is global warming with that going on.

On the other hand, I do recognize that Harm is being down to our ozone layer by increase Co2 and if you folks don’t mind dealing with more cases of Skin cancer(maybe you or your family) then keep believing your religious fantic BS as well. And when you suffer the consequences of your don’t come crying to anyone. After aiding and abetting stupidity. I am Christian but don’t go to the stupity level of Greenspeace but many of you are just as bad on the opposite end of the scale. I am happy 1c3d0g has the same sentiment about our environment. I am not the Only one beside wagonner that understand needing Alternative ways of creating sustainable energy sources. First we need to eliminate waste where-ever it may be. like for instance lets clean the airwaves of garbage 90′s bands because they all SUCKED- especially pearljam rigth SS!

look, it doesnt matter if global warming is true, and it doesnt matter if lutz is exersizing his freedom of speech.

what does matter is that GM cant use any negative publicity. period.

all you new “scientists” and “weather analysts” {1500AD?} can just relax and quit researching web info to sound like a genius.

its a car site, with a topic regarding a stupid comment and an attempt to smooth it over. relax with the science shit already. you guys cant be that smart if your on LLN!

How about independent Climatologists, paleo-archaeologists, meteorologists, Farmers, and anyone how isn’t paid for by big energy and big oil?

Besides you can easily find some “science” jackass who will tell you smoking three pack s a day is good for you (George Burns is the exception not the rule), drinking Drano is good for you, the Earth is 6000 years old, the sun will burn out in 500 years, Global warming doesn’t exist, and other fiction about the world.

You should stop referring to the Bush administration’s list of favorite scientists. They are almost all a bunch of spineless frauds.

I wouldn’t talk to Greenpeace anyway, they are half a notion short, of the ELF.

And yes, it’s tough being the only conservative at those concerts. Tougher still at the hippie festivals, but the drugs help me manage the desire to kill them all. What I do for good music I tell ya!

PS. Using my powers of deductive reasoning, I assume you’re a Dave Matthews fan, and a fan of Carter Beauford (judging from the “pearl” part). Drummers unite/rock on.

I frankly look forward to the development and deployment of new technology not merely squeezing more horsepower and/or fuel economy out of 100+ year old, steam-age, technology. More performance without sacrificing F/econ. Better F/econ without sacrificing but rather gaining performance.

Bitch and feign indignity about Global warming. It is real. How individuals and companies choose to deal with it is our own prerogative.

Lutz just lost the board meeting or didn’t read the memo. He can make all the great cars GM will allow, as long as he sticks to GM’s larger views and plans.