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	<title>Comments on: GM&#8217;s LaNeve: Rumors of GMC-Pontiac demise, dealer cuts are &#8220;untrue&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: oldraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they ever build another Fiero, it should be made from a modified Kappa chassis. Maybe flip it around like Ford did with the GT chassis to build the Cobra concept. They could turn the interior around, placing the engine cradle behind the driver. 5-min. Fiero chassis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they ever build another Fiero, it should be made from a modified Kappa chassis. Maybe flip it around like Ford did with the GT chassis to build the Cobra concept. They could turn the interior around, placing the engine cradle behind the driver. 5-min. Fiero chassis.</p>
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		<title>By: ninetysixvert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ninetysixvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for shane train for writing like he&#039;s actually intelligent.

Blakkar is an epic fail.  At least he believes in himself I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for shane train for writing like he&#8217;s actually intelligent.</p>
<p>Blakkar is an epic fail.  At least he believes in himself I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blakkar- enough with the hilarious attempts at condescention.

Sure, you can &quot;shoehorn&quot; whatever the hell you want into the Solstice just like Mallett did with the eight. But then you&#039;re creating competition for your next model up, causing too large an overlap for a company in danger like they are. Plus, a huge part of the Solstice&#039;s appeal is it&#039;s price, the advantage of which would get a good whipping if you upped it to a six

And yeah, I need to get over myself for driving a Camry that suits all my needs and is within my price range. Sorry mommy and daddy didn&#039;t hook me up with something that added some inches to my junk, but I don&#039;t need it.

And you still haven&#039;t explained the actual benefit of making a &quot;Fiero&quot; out of a Corvette. It&#039;s a pointless excersise destined only to yank a bit out of Corvette sales, I mean, how different could it be? The platform isn&#039;t made of play doh, you&#039;d have what is essentially a clone of the corvette. But knowing Pontiac, it would have a wide array of goofy scoops, unneccesary spoilers, shiny wheels, and other tacky add ons.

And on the matter of being clueless, I am honestly laughing out loud at you right now. You&#039;ve provided me quite a joke on this day, I thank you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blakkar- enough with the hilarious attempts at condescention.</p>
<p>Sure, you can &#8220;shoehorn&#8221; whatever the hell you want into the Solstice just like Mallett did with the eight. But then you&#8217;re creating competition for your next model up, causing too large an overlap for a company in danger like they are. Plus, a huge part of the Solstice&#8217;s appeal is it&#8217;s price, the advantage of which would get a good whipping if you upped it to a six</p>
<p>And yeah, I need to get over myself for driving a Camry that suits all my needs and is within my price range. Sorry mommy and daddy didn&#8217;t hook me up with something that added some inches to my junk, but I don&#8217;t need it.</p>
<p>And you still haven&#8217;t explained the actual benefit of making a &#8220;Fiero&#8221; out of a Corvette. It&#8217;s a pointless excersise destined only to yank a bit out of Corvette sales, I mean, how different could it be? The platform isn&#8217;t made of play doh, you&#8217;d have what is essentially a clone of the corvette. But knowing Pontiac, it would have a wide array of goofy scoops, unneccesary spoilers, shiny wheels, and other tacky add ons.</p>
<p>And on the matter of being clueless, I am honestly laughing out loud at you right now. You&#8217;ve provided me quite a joke on this day, I thank you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: elviososa</title>
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		<dc:creator>elviososa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So....GM going to chapter-11 also a rumor i guess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.GM going to chapter-11 also a rumor i guess!</p>
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		<title>By: Blakkarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakkarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shane train, 

Whoa, there did you even stop to comprehend the comment before responding to it. Or is it that you know next to nothing about ALL the cars mentioned above?

Yes I know about he 260hp Ecotech I4 in the Solstice GXP. The OPC has a 2.8L Turbo Six making 325. Seems like a great upgrade, Yes? Of course, it does. That is not to say that the four-pot is not great itself. But hey, why the devil not go for the turbo six? If some tuner shop can shoehorn a 7.0 V8 into that car why not a 2.8L Turbo Six. You really need to get over your predilections that an I4 is as good as a V6. 

More cylinders gets you more torque and a more usable power band. Plus add, in this case, more power.and this with likely better f/econ.  As an extension of the buyer&#039;s &quot;junk&quot;, you must feel very emasculated everything a V6 Camry walks away from you at the light. Get over yourself. There are websites that can help you with that.

The FIREBIRD is a mid-sized to large coupe and  six would be fine for the based and or mid range engine. While the SOLSTICE would start with a four and end with a six, the FIREBIRD would start with a six and end with an eight. 

Finally a FIERO based on the CORVETTE would obviously be a larger car than the originals and much more expensive to boot. But a Compact like the originals would be about the size of Boxster or Cayman and cost much less. I am well aware of how big a FIERO is/was, my neighbor had a 1986 FIERO GT and I see FIEROs about now and then even to this day. 

Really now, do you really like coming off as utterly clueless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane train, </p>
<p>Whoa, there did you even stop to comprehend the comment before responding to it. Or is it that you know next to nothing about ALL the cars mentioned above?</p>
<p>Yes I know about he 260hp Ecotech I4 in the Solstice GXP. The OPC has a 2.8L Turbo Six making 325. Seems like a great upgrade, Yes? Of course, it does. That is not to say that the four-pot is not great itself. But hey, why the devil not go for the turbo six? If some tuner shop can shoehorn a 7.0 V8 into that car why not a 2.8L Turbo Six. You really need to get over your predilections that an I4 is as good as a V6. </p>
<p>More cylinders gets you more torque and a more usable power band. Plus add, in this case, more power.and this with likely better f/econ.  As an extension of the buyer&#8217;s &#8220;junk&#8221;, you must feel very emasculated everything a V6 Camry walks away from you at the light. Get over yourself. There are websites that can help you with that.</p>
<p>The FIREBIRD is a mid-sized to large coupe and  six would be fine for the based and or mid range engine. While the SOLSTICE would start with a four and end with a six, the FIREBIRD would start with a six and end with an eight. </p>
<p>Finally a FIERO based on the CORVETTE would obviously be a larger car than the originals and much more expensive to boot. But a Compact like the originals would be about the size of Boxster or Cayman and cost much less. I am well aware of how big a FIERO is/was, my neighbor had a 1986 FIERO GT and I see FIEROs about now and then even to this day. </p>
<p>Really now, do you really like coming off as utterly clueless?</p>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blakkarr- Why would they put a turbo six in a Solstice when a lower model Firebird could cover V6 territory. The Solstice is great with the Turbo four in the GXP, the only reason to add two more cylinders is virtual extension of the buyers junk. That&#039;s not what the Solstice is about, trying to feel like a bigger man.

And a Fiero based on the Corvette? You could fit a Fiero in the engine bay of a Corvette, they&#039;re totally unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blakkarr- Why would they put a turbo six in a Solstice when a lower model Firebird could cover V6 territory. The Solstice is great with the Turbo four in the GXP, the only reason to add two more cylinders is virtual extension of the buyers junk. That&#8217;s not what the Solstice is about, trying to feel like a bigger man.</p>
<p>And a Fiero based on the Corvette? You could fit a Fiero in the engine bay of a Corvette, they&#8217;re totally unrelated.</p>
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		<title>By: Blakkarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blakkarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pare down PONTIAC to two or three cars.

1. A new SOLSTICE with that turbo six in the OPC (Likely alpha based from recent reports and rumors)

2. A new FIREBIRD. Totally different styling from the CAMARO. More an evolved version of the old F-Body FIREBIRD, one of GM&#039;s best looking cars of the time, but still built on the Zeta Platform 
This is my favorite concept http://gt1750.deviantart.com/art/Pontiac-Firebird-Trans-Am-73655833
OR
A G8 COUPE. The GTO would be the top Big V8 model. A turbo of supercharged six would be the mid level, model. 

3. A new FIERO on a modified CORVETTE platform or a new platform. I&#039;d be partial to a compact sports car like the originals. Take that Boxter/Cayman!

Just make performance cars and slowly regrow the division with clear targets. Leave performance sedans mainly to CHEVROLET. COUPES and sports or performance cars, not the CORVETTE, would be the main focus of PONTIAC.

Focus on performance without sacrificing F/econ as possible, Give Pontiac a proper factory team and let them lead on developing performance tech outside the CORVETTE Development Team.

and GMC isn&#039;t going anywhere. They make the trucks and make them work extremely well. 

There said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pare down PONTIAC to two or three cars.</p>
<p>1. A new SOLSTICE with that turbo six in the OPC (Likely alpha based from recent reports and rumors)</p>
<p>2. A new FIREBIRD. Totally different styling from the CAMARO. More an evolved version of the old F-Body FIREBIRD, one of GM&#8217;s best looking cars of the time, but still built on the Zeta Platform<br />
This is my favorite concept <a href="http://gt1750.deviantart.com/art/Pontiac-Firebird-Trans-Am-73655833" rel="nofollow">http://gt1750.deviantart.com/art/Pontiac-Firebird-Trans-Am-73655833</a><br />
OR<br />
A G8 COUPE. The GTO would be the top Big V8 model. A turbo of supercharged six would be the mid level, model. </p>
<p>3. A new FIERO on a modified CORVETTE platform or a new platform. I&#8217;d be partial to a compact sports car like the originals. Take that Boxter/Cayman!</p>
<p>Just make performance cars and slowly regrow the division with clear targets. Leave performance sedans mainly to CHEVROLET. COUPES and sports or performance cars, not the CORVETTE, would be the main focus of PONTIAC.</p>
<p>Focus on performance without sacrificing F/econ as possible, Give Pontiac a proper factory team and let them lead on developing performance tech outside the CORVETTE Development Team.</p>
<p>and GMC isn&#8217;t going anywhere. They make the trucks and make them work extremely well. </p>
<p>There said it.</p>
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		<title>By: oldraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, everyone saying GM can&#039;t be profitable with more than two divisions needs to take a look at that VW article.

VWAG consists of:

Volkswagen
Audi
Seat
Skoda
Lamborghini
Bently
Bugatti
Scania

It&#039;s odd that the number of brands under the corporate umbrella doesn&#039;t reflect viability or profitability in any way.

GM wants to consist of:

Chevrolet
Cadillac
Buick/Pontiac (last I heard Pontiac was going to be a niche vehicle brand under the Buick umbrella, but since news and rumours change every damn day, who can be sure anymore)
GMC

Sounds feasible to me, since that&#039;s only one division more than Toyota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, everyone saying GM can&#8217;t be profitable with more than two divisions needs to take a look at that VW article.</p>
<p>VWAG consists of:</p>
<p>Volkswagen<br />
Audi<br />
Seat<br />
Skoda<br />
Lamborghini<br />
Bently<br />
Bugatti<br />
Scania</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd that the number of brands under the corporate umbrella doesn&#8217;t reflect viability or profitability in any way.</p>
<p>GM wants to consist of:</p>
<p>Chevrolet<br />
Cadillac<br />
Buick/Pontiac (last I heard Pontiac was going to be a niche vehicle brand under the Buick umbrella, but since news and rumours change every damn day, who can be sure anymore)<br />
GMC</p>
<p>Sounds feasible to me, since that&#8217;s only one division more than Toyota.</p>
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		<title>By: oldraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;oldraven (now who’s replying to whom) check this out:
http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp&quot;

Ah, crap. Thanks, man. I was getting confused by Car and Driver, who said he was leaving his job heading Global Product Development. I&#039;ll type it out for you so you can see why I made the mistake.

&quot;GM guru gone: General Motors&#039; ongoing restructuring and struggle to survive has resulted in 77-year-old Bob Lutz stepping down April 1, before his official retirement at the end of the year. The best-known product pitchman who officially was the vice-chairman of global product development, Lutz is often credited with ramrodding improvements to GM&#039;s lineup of vehicles. Tom Stephens, previously executive vice-president of global powertrain and global quality, will take over for Lutz.&quot;

You can see how I mistook the job change as early retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;oldraven (now who’s replying to whom) check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, crap. Thanks, man. I was getting confused by Car and Driver, who said he was leaving his job heading Global Product Development. I&#8217;ll type it out for you so you can see why I made the mistake.</p>
<p>&#8220;GM guru gone: General Motors&#8217; ongoing restructuring and struggle to survive has resulted in 77-year-old Bob Lutz stepping down April 1, before his official retirement at the end of the year. The best-known product pitchman who officially was the vice-chairman of global product development, Lutz is often credited with ramrodding improvements to GM&#8217;s lineup of vehicles. Tom Stephens, previously executive vice-president of global powertrain and global quality, will take over for Lutz.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can see how I mistook the job change as early retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>carstuff- I think if more people were aware that GMC trucks are Silverados, Suburbans, Traverses, Equinoxes, and Coloradoes with better grilles and round fog lights, they would have no problem making a small switch to Chevy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>carstuff- I think if more people were aware that GMC trucks are Silverados, Suburbans, Traverses, Equinoxes, and Coloradoes with better grilles and round fog lights, they would have no problem making a small switch to Chevy.</p>
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		<title>By: carstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>carstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMC is the fifth most respected brand name in the US for auto companies.  

2nd choice for chevy trucks is Ford.  (What a chevy buyers 2nd choice was)

2nd choice for a GMC truck is Toyota.

GMC is the 2nd highest selling brand for GM.  

Just saying there is a lot of data/reason to be careful in killing this brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMC is the fifth most respected brand name in the US for auto companies.  </p>
<p>2nd choice for chevy trucks is Ford.  (What a chevy buyers 2nd choice was)</p>
<p>2nd choice for a GMC truck is Toyota.</p>
<p>GMC is the 2nd highest selling brand for GM.  </p>
<p>Just saying there is a lot of data/reason to be careful in killing this brand.</p>
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		<title>By: ninetysixvert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ninetysixvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why GM does not start with the bankruptcy courts is beyond me.  I would mind one hundred times less paying GM financial aid if they were using it to restructure and not to delay the inevitable.  Declare bankruptcy, restructure, come out swinging with just Chevy and Cadillac (integrate GMC into Chevy, of course).  Maybe there&#039;s a future for a pure performance brand, something that Pontiac could become...but now is not the time for that.  Let&#039;s worry about keeping the company alive and making a comeback before we were about extras like Pontiac. 

Ford-Lincoln vs. Chevrolet-Cadillac vs. Toyota-Lexus vs. Honda-Acura vs. Nissan-Infiniti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why GM does not start with the bankruptcy courts is beyond me.  I would mind one hundred times less paying GM financial aid if they were using it to restructure and not to delay the inevitable.  Declare bankruptcy, restructure, come out swinging with just Chevy and Cadillac (integrate GMC into Chevy, of course).  Maybe there&#8217;s a future for a pure performance brand, something that Pontiac could become&#8230;but now is not the time for that.  Let&#8217;s worry about keeping the company alive and making a comeback before we were about extras like Pontiac. </p>
<p>Ford-Lincoln vs. Chevrolet-Cadillac vs. Toyota-Lexus vs. Honda-Acura vs. Nissan-Infiniti</p>
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		<title>By: idrinorbarsaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>idrinorbarsaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>until it&#039;s down to just 2 or companies, GM will never be as successful as it could be! Simple as that. 
No need for pontiac, gmc, hummer, saab. Its a unbelievable waste of money to keep pontiac alive just as a sport version when their cars are not that great or reliable to begin with. It doesnt matter what GM does with saturn because it will always live in the US. Every car from GMC can be found in chevy. saab is noo expensive for GM to advertise and maintain its old dealers. Hummer has to chance because of tree huggers! 
It should be, at maximum, Chevy, Cadillac, Buick. Preferably, it should be just Cadillac and Chevy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>until it&#8217;s down to just 2 or companies, GM will never be as successful as it could be! Simple as that.<br />
No need for pontiac, gmc, hummer, saab. Its a unbelievable waste of money to keep pontiac alive just as a sport version when their cars are not that great or reliable to begin with. It doesnt matter what GM does with saturn because it will always live in the US. Every car from GMC can be found in chevy. saab is noo expensive for GM to advertise and maintain its old dealers. Hummer has to chance because of tree huggers!<br />
It should be, at maximum, Chevy, Cadillac, Buick. Preferably, it should be just Cadillac and Chevy!</p>
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		<title>By: JakeK66</title>
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		<dc:creator>JakeK66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting rid of Pontiac means throwing GM&#039;s future in the garbage.

Look at any lot of young adults or high schoolers and you&#039;ll see a large amount of older, and newer Pontiac products. While they may just have been cheap, there is something that is said about it. Their sporty styling may have been just that, but it sure moved alot of Grand Ams, Sunfires and Grand Prixs back in the day - and still could in the future. Pontiac has the most brand recognition and worth over any other GM brand in my age bracket - even Chevy and you&#039;d spend alot of money and time to build that reputation - look at Scion - they can&#039;t even do it. 

This is why I think they should consider the younger generation approach and just make some cheaper product, no matter the wheels it drives. Bring the Astra, sporty Cruze varient, Insignia, and small coupe to the lineup and just move some metal. After all, isn&#039;t sales what makes a company survive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting rid of Pontiac means throwing GM&#8217;s future in the garbage.</p>
<p>Look at any lot of young adults or high schoolers and you&#8217;ll see a large amount of older, and newer Pontiac products. While they may just have been cheap, there is something that is said about it. Their sporty styling may have been just that, but it sure moved alot of Grand Ams, Sunfires and Grand Prixs back in the day &#8211; and still could in the future. Pontiac has the most brand recognition and worth over any other GM brand in my age bracket &#8211; even Chevy and you&#8217;d spend alot of money and time to build that reputation &#8211; look at Scion &#8211; they can&#8217;t even do it. </p>
<p>This is why I think they should consider the younger generation approach and just make some cheaper product, no matter the wheels it drives. Bring the Astra, sporty Cruze varient, Insignia, and small coupe to the lineup and just move some metal. After all, isn&#8217;t sales what makes a company survive?</p>
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		<title>By: jdasch1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdasch1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMC and Pontiac don&#039;t make GM any money.  They rob Chevy of market share and cost millions to advertise separately.  The support for the dealers and management let alone engineering costs gone wild.  The road to recovery is an easy one for someone looking in, not looking out.  This has been GM&#039;s problem for many years, and a bankruptcy will  flush it all out.  Goodbye UAW and brands that make no money...GMC, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Hummer and Onstar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMC and Pontiac don&#8217;t make GM any money.  They rob Chevy of market share and cost millions to advertise separately.  The support for the dealers and management let alone engineering costs gone wild.  The road to recovery is an easy one for someone looking in, not looking out.  This has been GM&#8217;s problem for many years, and a bankruptcy will  flush it all out.  Goodbye UAW and brands that make no money&#8230;GMC, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Hummer and Onstar.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG-KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG-KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep Chevy and Cadillac as is.
Make Pontiac performance.
Make Saturn a Scion type competitor.
Dump GMC, Hummer, and SAAB.
Make Opel the rebadged brand for Europe.
Make Buick better in the US as a step between Pontiac and Cadillac, or keep it in just China, or kill it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep Chevy and Cadillac as is.<br />
Make Pontiac performance.<br />
Make Saturn a Scion type competitor.<br />
Dump GMC, Hummer, and SAAB.<br />
Make Opel the rebadged brand for Europe.<br />
Make Buick better in the US as a step between Pontiac and Cadillac, or keep it in just China, or kill it.</p>
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		<title>By: anyclearer</title>
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		<dc:creator>anyclearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old raven, cause the rumor, made it look as though gm was finally makin the hard decisions and doing something right. its been month after month, and who&#039;s really sure whats happening to any brand, they&#039;ve been sayin since last year they were sellin hummer........and yet they still got it.  Getting rid of gmc and pontiac was a good rumor and something i wanted them to really do, and for them to say its only a rumor and not true..........damn i wish they&#039;d be smarter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old raven, cause the rumor, made it look as though gm was finally makin the hard decisions and doing something right. its been month after month, and who&#8217;s really sure whats happening to any brand, they&#8217;ve been sayin since last year they were sellin hummer&#8230;&#8230;..and yet they still got it.  Getting rid of gmc and pontiac was a good rumor and something i wanted them to really do, and for them to say its only a rumor and not true&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.damn i wish they&#8217;d be smarter</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-laneve-rumors-of-gmc-pontiac-demise-dealer-cuts-are-untrue.html#comment-451688</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldraven (now who&#039;s replying to whom) check this out:
http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldraven (now who&#8217;s replying to whom) check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/corp_gov/bios/lutz.jsp</a></p>
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		<title>By: johnnycanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-laneve-rumors-of-gmc-pontiac-demise-dealer-cuts-are-untrue.html#comment-451687</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldraven, when was that announced? Well duh, I guess it was April 1st, but I never saw or heard a thing about it. I&#039;d love to hear the True Hollywood Story behind this. Whose decision was it or do we have to wait for his autobiography?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldraven, when was that announced? Well duh, I guess it was April 1st, but I never saw or heard a thing about it. I&#8217;d love to hear the True Hollywood Story behind this. Whose decision was it or do we have to wait for his autobiography?</p>
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		<title>By: oldraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how LLN and every other media outlet I watch regularly jumped the gun on a damn rumour, but people turn around and make this about GM being stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how LLN and every other media outlet I watch regularly jumped the gun on a damn rumour, but people turn around and make this about GM being stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: oldraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny, (it seems I reply to you a lot) Bob Lutz retired early on April 1st. He was supposed to do so at the end of the year, but it seems the axe swung early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny, (it seems I reply to you a lot) Bob Lutz retired early on April 1st. He was supposed to do so at the end of the year, but it seems the axe swung early.</p>
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		<title>By: mayer_ray_nagin</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-laneve-rumors-of-gmc-pontiac-demise-dealer-cuts-are-untrue.html#comment-451683</link>
		<dc:creator>mayer_ray_nagin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want my solstice coupe!</description>
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		<title>By: Borat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing is for sure: somebody is full of crap. My money of GM not smelling all that great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is for sure: somebody is full of crap. My money of GM not smelling all that great.</p>
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		<title>By: DrFill</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this guy is kinda in the Obama Triangle
He&#039;s the only guy who wanted the job, and he&#039;s the best man they could find
But there is no way to know how bad things are at GM, or Washington, and how much of an uphill climb it is to right the ship, until you are in the Eye of the Storm
DrFill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this guy is kinda in the Obama Triangle<br />
He&#8217;s the only guy who wanted the job, and he&#8217;s the best man they could find<br />
But there is no way to know how bad things are at GM, or Washington, and how much of an uphill climb it is to right the ship, until you are in the Eye of the Storm<br />
DrFill</p>
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		<title>By: Ring-Taxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ring-Taxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Mr. LaNeve himself even believe the BS that came out of his mouth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Mr. LaNeve himself even believe the BS that came out of his mouth?</p>
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		<title>By: DB9</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well good doctor, as you can see there ‘be’ a lot of mucking to do;-) They were riding them especially hard today. As for the petard… well… 

DB9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well good doctor, as you can see there ‘be’ a lot of mucking to do;-) They were riding them especially hard today. As for the petard… well… </p>
<p>DB9</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycanuck</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-laneve-rumors-of-gmc-pontiac-demise-dealer-cuts-are-untrue.html#comment-451655</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. This can be filed under &#039;just what else would you expect the poor guy to say&#039;? LaNeve has to tow the line at this point even though it&#039;s becoming increasingly obvious where this is all headed. I would suspect that all involved know exactly when and where the announcement will be made regarding GM&#039;s future. They simply can&#039;t say anything at this time without huge negative ramifications.

Of course all this makes me wonder if they have Bob Lutz tied up in a closet somewhere. He&#039;s been conspicuous by his absence as of late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. This can be filed under &#8216;just what else would you expect the poor guy to say&#8217;? LaNeve has to tow the line at this point even though it&#8217;s becoming increasingly obvious where this is all headed. I would suspect that all involved know exactly when and where the announcement will be made regarding GM&#8217;s future. They simply can&#8217;t say anything at this time without huge negative ramifications.</p>
<p>Of course all this makes me wonder if they have Bob Lutz tied up in a closet somewhere. He&#8217;s been conspicuous by his absence as of late.</p>
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		<title>By: DrFill</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That someone would be me
Shovels, BS, and GM
It&#039;s like an Isoselis Triangle
DrFill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That someone would be me<br />
Shovels, BS, and GM<br />
It&#8217;s like an Isoselis Triangle<br />
DrFill</p>
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		<title>By: DB9</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously is anyone surprised by this? A little refresher from a post three days ago:

“The next two to six months are going to be very interesting. Just best to sit back and watch it all play out as the rumor mills and innuendo have already begun.”

It’s only going to get worse? Someone the other day mentioned needing a ‘shovel’ in here soon… well… When all is said and done there are…:-))) 

DB9;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously is anyone surprised by this? A little refresher from a post three days ago:</p>
<p>“The next two to six months are going to be very interesting. Just best to sit back and watch it all play out as the rumor mills and innuendo have already begun.”</p>
<p>It’s only going to get worse? Someone the other day mentioned needing a ‘shovel’ in here soon… well… When all is said and done there are…:-))) </p>
<p>DB9;-)</p>
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		<title>By: anyclearer</title>
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		<dc:creator>anyclearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everytime i think GM is finally being smart, someone in GM comes out and to me it sounds like &quot;Oh no we are still stupid&quot; Ive been a gm loyal fan all my life but damn it, I really cant take no more. They got themselves in the mess and are being dumb fixing it. My next car will not be a GM!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everytime i think GM is finally being smart, someone in GM comes out and to me it sounds like &#8220;Oh no we are still stupid&#8221; Ive been a gm loyal fan all my life but damn it, I really cant take no more. They got themselves in the mess and are being dumb fixing it. My next car will not be a GM!!</p>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, don&#039;t care who&#039;s jerking us around. I didn&#039;t even specify who I thought was. I&#039;m just saying it feels like someone is jerking us around somewhere down the line, whether it&#039;s GM, LLN, or some &quot;informed insider&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, don&#8217;t care who&#8217;s jerking us around. I didn&#8217;t even specify who I thought was. I&#8217;m just saying it feels like someone is jerking us around somewhere down the line, whether it&#8217;s GM, LLN, or some &#8220;informed insider&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: carstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>carstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM is not the one jerking the info around.   It an &quot;informed insider&quot;.    
This was reported in the wall street journal and others so do not blame LLN on this one.

Just the facts, maam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM is not the one jerking the info around.   It an &#8220;informed insider&#8221;.<br />
This was reported in the wall street journal and others so do not blame LLN on this one.</p>
<p>Just the facts, maam.</p>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but sometimes it makes it interesting to see how people react the first time, and if they change what they have to say when the real thing comes out. Sometimes drama like that can be a bit entertaining, even if it feels like they&#039;re jerking us around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but sometimes it makes it interesting to see how people react the first time, and if they change what they have to say when the real thing comes out. Sometimes drama like that can be a bit entertaining, even if it feels like they&#8217;re jerking us around.</p>
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		<title>By: gnftr21</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnftr21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This so typical GM.  I happen to think the earlier story on Bloomberg is closer to the truth.  I&#039;m willing to bet Hendersen issues a statment that they are considering killing GMC and Pontiac plus 1700 dealers.  It makes too much sense for GM to neck down to 3 brands,  If they aren&#039;t considering cutting the dealers plus Pontiac and GMC, then they should declare chapter 11 right now and stop delaying the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This so typical GM.  I happen to think the earlier story on Bloomberg is closer to the truth.  I&#8217;m willing to bet Hendersen issues a statment that they are considering killing GMC and Pontiac plus 1700 dealers.  It makes too much sense for GM to neck down to 3 brands,  If they aren&#8217;t considering cutting the dealers plus Pontiac and GMC, then they should declare chapter 11 right now and stop delaying the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: BuyUSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuyUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>idrinorbarsaku, It seems like this happens all the time.</description>
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		<title>By: idrinorbarsaku</title>
		<link>http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-laneve-rumors-of-gmc-pontiac-demise-dealer-cuts-are-untrue.html#comment-451632</link>
		<dc:creator>idrinorbarsaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t rely on LLN anymore for any facts, one day its this and another day its the complete opposite!</description>
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		<title>By: shane train</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope they can back this up....

GMC isn&#039;t really neccesary. The only difference between the Sierra and the Silverado is the grille, right? So bag GMC and offer a solid black grille on the Silverado, Honda offers alternate grilles as factory options, so it can&#039;t be that hard. The Ridgeline looks better with the optional solid black grille, still looks bad but not the point. 

Pontiac has a chance if they trim down their line. Make them real performance, and the only problem I see in the future is a bit of a glass ceiling for them caused by the Corvette. If they want to make higher and hgiher performance models, they&#039;ll hit the Vettes turf and those are sales GM doesn&#039;t want to overlap I&#039;d say.&#039;

But it&#039;s good to see Pontiac has a chance, just dump the G clones, the 3, 4, and 6. Ewww!!!!</description>
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<p>GMC isn&#8217;t really neccesary. The only difference between the Sierra and the Silverado is the grille, right? So bag GMC and offer a solid black grille on the Silverado, Honda offers alternate grilles as factory options, so it can&#8217;t be that hard. The Ridgeline looks better with the optional solid black grille, still looks bad but not the point. </p>
<p>Pontiac has a chance if they trim down their line. Make them real performance, and the only problem I see in the future is a bit of a glass ceiling for them caused by the Corvette. If they want to make higher and hgiher performance models, they&#8217;ll hit the Vettes turf and those are sales GM doesn&#8217;t want to overlap I&#8217;d say.&#8217;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s good to see Pontiac has a chance, just dump the G clones, the 3, 4, and 6. Ewww!!!!</p>
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