Comments on: GM’s viability plan: More loans possible; Bankruptcy last resort http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:26:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bankruptcy2009 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-440055 Bankruptcy2009 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:37:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-440055 I say this NRG Union employees should have a skills test as they do in the private sector to determine their level of responsibility and skills to the work needed to be done. But many many Private companies all they have are slave labor wages ok and nothing but. If your trying to raise a family you need an income of at least close to six figures and above. I say this NRG Union employees should have a skills test as they do in the private sector to determine their level of responsibility and skills to the work needed to be done. But many many Private companies all they have are slave labor wages ok and nothing but.

If your trying to raise a family you need an income of at least close to six figures and above.

]]> By: Bankruptcy2009 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-440049 Bankruptcy2009 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:28:18 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-440049 NRG its true that Union workers are paid well and some that are greedy and lazy but you can't lump all UAW and other Unions employees as unworthy of their pay Why? IF you did their would quickly become only two classes in this country Rich and POOR. and NO middle class. As it is most decent jobs that are out there the wealthy have them and the middle class is usually on the outside looking in. Because of a simple sick Philosophy that the wealthy in this country have used and taught their selfish followers and that is. Its called Use Use Use and dump their employees. You sir are nothing but cattle or a side of beef to the average private company.Your just a number. Unless you know someone or you own the business. But I will tell you this for your own good. Unions are a GREAT THING. Without them the Wealthy would run amuck beating down the middle class into the poor class and that about sums it up. There is pretty much no hope for middle class americans when they get a 4 year College or University degree and can't find a decent employment. All they can get sir is Underemployed work from Private compannies and the maximum they can hope to recieve is LESS THAN $30,000 a year. I know I speak from experience. I have a college or rather University Degree and I have been there and done that. I have fought in the job trenches for years. I think you are one of those that either has lost hope and your already poor,or has it good in your current profession, and or your one of the wealthy Billionaire Bankers on Wall Street that were bailedout using taxpayer money just to say they have more money than Bill Gates. The Average American Worker makes some where in the 40K range. Sir A union Employee can make more a register Nurse can make even more. Non College professions. And many college Grads are taking jobs in the low to mid 20's to me and anyone else reading this realizes that is nothing more than slave labor. If you think its fair that the Wealthiest in this country should have all the money and everyone else nothing well then I think its time we round you and them up and send everyone of you to Prison as the Crooks you all are. NRG its true that Union workers are paid well and some that are greedy and lazy but you can’t lump all UAW and other Unions employees as unworthy of their pay Why? IF you did their would quickly become only two classes in this country Rich and POOR. and NO middle class.

As it is most decent jobs that are out there the wealthy have them and the middle class is usually on the outside looking in. Because of a simple sick Philosophy that the wealthy in this country have used and taught their selfish followers and that is. Its called Use Use Use and dump their employees. You sir are nothing but cattle or a side of beef to the average private company.Your just a number. Unless you know someone or you own the business. But I will tell you this for your own good. Unions are a GREAT THING. Without them the Wealthy would run amuck beating down the middle class into the poor class and that about sums it up. There is pretty much no hope for middle class americans when they get a 4 year College or University degree and can’t find a decent employment. All they can get sir is Underemployed work from Private compannies and the maximum they can hope to recieve is LESS THAN $30,000 a year. I know I speak from experience. I have a college or rather University Degree and I have been there and done that. I have fought in the job trenches for years. I think you are one of those that either has lost hope and your already poor,or has it good in your current profession, and or your one of the wealthy Billionaire Bankers on Wall Street that were bailedout using taxpayer money just to say they have more money than Bill Gates.

The Average American Worker makes some where in the 40K range. Sir A union Employee can make more a register Nurse can make even more. Non College professions. And many college Grads are taking jobs in the low to mid 20’s to me and anyone else reading this realizes that is nothing more than slave labor.

If you think its fair that the Wealthiest in this country should have all the money and everyone else nothing well then I think its time we round you and them up and send everyone of you to Prison as the Crooks you all are.

]]> By: NRG http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439883 NRG Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:10:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439883 I just got this from AP. It's no wonder that the Big 3 are in trouble. Their laid-off workers receive supplemental pay besides collecting unemployment benefits. WTF. Spoiled SOBs. I hope I never run into an auto worker complaining about this. Unions have outworn their purpose here in the U.S. AP sources: UAW deal cuts bonuses, some raises Base wages for UAW workers will remain the same, but the deal limits supplemental pay that laid-off workers receive while they collect unemployment benefits, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because union members have not been told about the terms. I just got this from AP. It’s no wonder that the Big 3 are in trouble. Their laid-off workers receive supplemental pay besides collecting unemployment benefits. WTF. Spoiled SOBs. I hope I never run into an auto worker complaining about this. Unions have outworn their purpose here in the U.S.

AP sources: UAW deal cuts bonuses, some raises

Base wages for UAW workers will remain the same, but the deal limits supplemental pay that laid-off workers receive while they collect unemployment benefits, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because union members have not been told about the terms.

]]> By: Kallen33125 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439850 Kallen33125 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:58:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439850 idrinorbarsaku, borat, and gugy, all shut the hell uo! the only good idrinorbarsaku said is 4 others 2 stop saying 2 let GM die--i agree with him there cuz all the ppl who say that about GM, are stupid! GM cannot and will not die!!! idrinorbarsaku, borat, and gugy, all shut the hell uo! the only good idrinorbarsaku said is 4 others 2 stop saying 2 let GM die–i agree with him there cuz all the ppl who say that about GM, are stupid! GM cannot and will not die!!!

]]> By: Need more oil for GM is an idiot http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439726 Need more oil for GM is an idiot Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:50:12 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439726 So america is going bankrupt? Everyone would rather drive a german car. So america is going bankrupt? Everyone would rather drive a german car.

]]> By: Need more oil for GM http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439675 Need more oil for GM Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:18:22 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439675 What's good for General Motors is good for America What’s good for General Motors is good for America

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439658 idrinorbarsaku Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:21:00 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439658 like you don't live off of a loan?? everone is living off someone elses money! and I'm no exceptions. I just added 59k in loans to my name just last saturday for school. Who gives me the money for that? Big companies do! which are similar to GM who put back millions of dollars to their community. think outside the box before getting all pissed off about them "taking your money", because you wont even know the difference! like you don’t live off of a loan?? everone is living off someone elses money! and I’m no exceptions. I just added 59k in loans to my name just last saturday for school. Who gives me the money for that? Big companies do! which are similar to GM who put back millions of dollars to their community. think outside the box before getting all pissed off about them “taking your money”, because you wont even know the difference!

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439654 idrinorbarsaku Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:16:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439654 going into bankruptcy is a safe thing to do when the economy is ok. Going into bankruptcy while the economy is this bad and spending has slowed down makes it hard to get out of successfully. Circuit City is one example. going into bankruptcy is a safe thing to do when the economy is ok. Going into bankruptcy while the economy is this bad and spending has slowed down makes it hard to get out of successfully. Circuit City is one example.

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439653 idrinorbarsaku Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:13:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439653 Need Mo Betta oil for GM, tell gm to build a car that is worthy of my money and i will drive it! Need Mo Betta oil for GM,

tell gm to build a car that is worthy of my money and i will drive it!

]]> By: fan http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439649 fan Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:08:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439649 well, why do those wiseguys monkey around with big and not-so-big words? gm already IS bankrupt; their living on a loan already! and not a too shabby one at that... how many billions? repeat: GM is RUNNING ON OTHER PEOPLES MONEY ALREADY... well, why do those wiseguys monkey around with big and not-so-big words? gm already IS bankrupt; their living on a loan already! and not a too shabby one at that… how many billions?

repeat: GM is RUNNING ON OTHER PEOPLES MONEY ALREADY…

]]> By: ricky_b http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439640 ricky_b Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:41:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439640 This is downright scary. How can you really justify keeping the clowns (senior management) at GM around. These guys have been in the industry for years and have been in the current position for a while. They got excessively greedy when time were ripe and were ill prepared in risk-planning for situations like this. Didn't they learn from the oil crises in the 70's and 80's? People criticized Ford initially for hiring Mulally because he was a Boeing exec and knew nothing about cars. Maybe that's why he's gotten Ford in a better position in the short time he's been there... because he focused on customers, the market and the business... no "inbred" history to taint his judgement. Having said that, I currently own a VW and love it. I like the design and handling that German cars have, that's why I wanted it. GM and Ford must have heard that from customers because you see them starting to globalize with the Euro platforms. If they do the right job and don't muck it up like they have in the past, I would gladly take one for a test drive for serious consideration on my next car purchase. We'll see what happens. This is downright scary. How can you really justify keeping the clowns (senior management) at GM around. These guys have been in the industry for years and have been in the current position for a while. They got excessively greedy when time were ripe and were ill prepared in risk-planning for situations like this. Didn’t they learn from the oil crises in the 70’s and 80’s?

People criticized Ford initially for hiring Mulally because he was a Boeing exec and knew nothing about cars. Maybe that’s why he’s gotten Ford in a better position in the short time he’s been there… because he focused on customers, the market and the business… no “inbred” history to taint his judgement.

Having said that, I currently own a VW and love it. I like the design and handling that German cars have, that’s why I wanted it. GM and Ford must have heard that from customers because you see them starting to globalize with the Euro platforms. If they do the right job and don’t muck it up like they have in the past, I would gladly take one for a test drive for serious consideration on my next car purchase. We’ll see what happens.

]]> By: oldraven http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439632 oldraven Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:21:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439632 Gugy, everybody is asking for government loans, not just the Detroit 3. This is no longer unique to the US domestic automakers. Gugy, everybody is asking for government loans, not just the Detroit 3. This is no longer unique to the US domestic automakers.

]]> By: Bankruptcy2009 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439629 Bankruptcy2009 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:12:34 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439629 As my name implies if lowly GM is to survive my namesake Bankruptcy may be the only option for GM. And once again Need for More Brains at GM. GM right now is Begging to stay alive right now ok. So your claiming GM is doing great is Pure crap. Asking for $30 Billion in Loans, Getting Rid of SAAB, SATURN, and most certainly PONTIAC, BUICK, And GMC before its over with. The Only SHOT GM has is Keep Chevy and Cadillac and that's it. Everything I just mentioned is just a Rebadged Chevy. Shuttering 5 More Factories could be more like all if no Bailout money is given, to Lose more than 25% of their Global Workforce, Losing more than 50,000 more jobs, Taking 10 Years time to Repay loan if given. That is obscene in real world terms. Since when does it take 10 years to pay off your new car?? We'll see NFMOGM if GM Survives. Chrysler on the other hand has always had pretty good product and least braggadoshished of the big three. Chrysler problem is management that has taken over always sold the company out. And Ford's only real problem has been the controlling family has not know what they were doing. But Ford has seemed to have gotten some things right in terms of product, bringing the right management in, and securing itself financially in this economic Downturn. Ford Motor Company and the American Road. Its a Beautiful Thing! GO America. and Go Ford. Taurus SHO its SHO Time! As my name implies if lowly GM is to survive my namesake Bankruptcy may be the only option for GM.
And once again Need for More Brains at GM. GM right now is Begging to stay alive right now ok. So your claiming GM is doing great is Pure crap. Asking for $30 Billion in Loans, Getting Rid of SAAB, SATURN, and most certainly PONTIAC, BUICK, And GMC before its over with. The Only SHOT GM has is Keep Chevy and Cadillac and that’s it. Everything I just mentioned is just a Rebadged Chevy. Shuttering 5 More Factories could be more like all if no Bailout money is given, to Lose more than 25% of their Global Workforce, Losing more than 50,000 more jobs, Taking 10 Years time to Repay loan if given. That is obscene in real world terms. Since when does it take 10 years to pay off your new car??

We’ll see NFMOGM if GM Survives. Chrysler on the other hand has always had pretty good product and least braggadoshished of the big three. Chrysler problem is management that has taken over always sold the company out. And Ford’s only real problem has been the controlling family has not know what they were doing. But Ford has seemed to have gotten some things right in terms of product, bringing the right management in, and securing itself financially in this economic Downturn.
Ford Motor Company and the American Road. Its a Beautiful Thing! GO America. and Go Ford.
Taurus SHO its SHO Time!

]]> By: The Stig http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439608 The Stig Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:19:37 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439608 GM needs more? What a surprise. GM needs more? What a surprise.

]]> By: Need Mo Betta oil for GM http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439593 Need Mo Betta oil for GM Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:15:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439593 umm bankruptcy doesn't mean they disspear over night? you know a ton of airlines went backrupt several years back and they seem stronger than before. idrinorbarsaku : shut up and drive my GM made cars. umm bankruptcy doesn’t mean they disspear over night?

you know a ton of airlines went backrupt several years back and they seem stronger than before.

idrinorbarsaku : shut up and drive my GM made cars.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439575 Veda Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:48:54 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439575 You know I was just thinking, even if GM finally makes products that people want to buy, in this economy is it really wise for the gov to stimulate people to buy cars using money they don't have? I mean most of the new car buyers use credit and loans. How many people nowadays are making $ securely? Before it was real estate, later cars? You know I was just thinking, even if GM finally makes products that people want to buy, in this economy is it really wise for the gov to stimulate people to buy cars using money they don’t have? I mean most of the new car buyers use credit and loans. How many people nowadays are making $ securely? Before it was real estate, later cars?

]]> By: bauer100 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439568 bauer100 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:24:41 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439568 dont yall act like you didnt see this coming. you knew it since December. dont yall act like you didnt see this coming. you knew it since December.

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439565 idrinorbarsaku Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:16:44 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439565 -the impala has too many sales to be dropped/replaced for the malinu which is a completely different kind of car -the new equinox is one of the only chevy cars that people are attracted to. So that's not possible, especially considering how much money has already gone into its redesign. -I think gmc and buick need to be axed! every car that gmc has already can be found at chevy!!! carry over some buick models into both chevy and caddy. Enclave should go to caddy. We need to see an actual lacrosse to see where it will fit in better, but it looks like it would fit in with caddy. Keep buick's possible large vehicles in chevy and don't put to much in them...keep the prices low. -Pontiac need to disappear asap! -I think the solstice needs dropped and the Sky needs to be turned into a chevette! this makes sense since the sky sells better than the solstice.. -the impala has too many sales to be dropped/replaced for the malinu which is a completely different kind of car

-the new equinox is one of the only chevy cars that people are attracted to. So that’s not possible, especially considering how much money has already gone into its redesign.

-I think gmc and buick need to be axed! every car that gmc has already can be found at chevy!!! carry over some buick models into both chevy and caddy. Enclave should go to caddy. We need to see an actual lacrosse to see where it will fit in better, but it looks like it would fit in with caddy. Keep buick’s possible large vehicles in chevy and don’t put to much in them…keep the prices low.

-Pontiac need to disappear asap!

-I think the solstice needs dropped and the Sky needs to be turned into a chevette! this makes sense since the sky sells better than the solstice..

]]> By: 02VortecAVALANCHE http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439559 02VortecAVALANCHE Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:00:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439559 I just made so adjustments to iluvamcars list. It will be like this probably. CHEVY Spark Aveo Cruze Volt Orlando Malibu Impala (maybe will be droped or replaced by the malibu) Camaro Corvette Equinox (no dont think so will not make it next year) Traverse Tahoe/Suburban Colorado successor (it will be the colorado or the cayon not both.) Silverado Express two Opel models BUICK (can you say BYE!) small sedan Lacrosse Enclave CADILLAC 3-Series fighter CTS DT7 SRX Escalade Converj GMC Terrain Acadia Yukon (get rid of it! Just make more options on the Tahoe or people could buy the escalade.) Canyon successor (will be either the canyon or the colorado not both.) Sierra (get rid of. Put more options for the silverado and drop) Savana PONTIAC (Bye pontiac!) Vibe G8 Solstice (only car to keep put a chevy emblem on it and call it a sunfire or keep the solstice name. I just made so adjustments to iluvamcars list.

It will be like this probably.
CHEVY
Spark
Aveo
Cruze
Volt
Orlando
Malibu
Impala (maybe will be droped or replaced by the malibu)
Camaro
Corvette
Equinox (no dont think so will not make it next year)
Traverse
Tahoe/Suburban
Colorado successor (it will be the colorado or the cayon not both.)
Silverado
Express
two Opel models

BUICK (can you say BYE!)
small sedan
Lacrosse
Enclave

CADILLAC
3-Series fighter
CTS
DT7
SRX
Escalade
Converj

GMC
Terrain
Acadia
Yukon (get rid of it! Just make more options on the Tahoe or people could buy the escalade.)
Canyon successor (will be either the canyon or the colorado not both.)
Sierra (get rid of. Put more options for the silverado and drop)
Savana

PONTIAC (Bye pontiac!)
Vibe
G8
Solstice (only car to keep put a chevy emblem on it and call it a sunfire or keep the solstice name.

]]> By: idrinorbarsaku http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439536 idrinorbarsaku Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:18:39 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439536 all of you who keep on saying that they should all die and go bankrupt are clear moronic idiots and have no clue about what the key products the US has that keeps everything running. The US will be doomed if such a thing happens. GM and Ford are the glue that brings in jobs in the US and keeps other companies running. If gm and chrysler plants closed, 2,000,000 people will loose their jobs. That doesn't even count the millions of others that have a jobs that are related to GM and Ford. This problem is bigger than most of you brainless idiots can comprehend! all of you who keep on saying that they should all die and go bankrupt are clear moronic idiots and have no clue about what the key products the US has that keeps everything running. The US will be doomed if such a thing happens. GM and Ford are the glue that brings in jobs in the US and keeps other companies running. If gm and chrysler plants closed, 2,000,000 people will loose their jobs. That doesn’t even count the millions of others that have a jobs that are related to GM and Ford. This problem is bigger than most of you brainless idiots can comprehend!

]]> By: Borat http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439534 Borat Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:13:27 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439534 In total tin the first part of this year we shall shell 30 billions. Then in the second part as much. Next year probably more, because they have to do some bonuses, sorry special projects and GM Car Putz will become consultant with his own agency and stuff and will cost 50-150 millions vs. miserly 20 they paying him now (don't shake your heads and look at salary - he gets stocks and bonuses and options and you can't fly 2 choppers for mere 1.3 mills a year). This shall continue till 2011 or maybe 2012. Then congressmen/women will say "They fooled us: their cars suck and nobody buying them". But first goes 30 billions and some more by the second half of this year. In total tin the first part of this year we shall shell 30 billions. Then in the second part as much. Next year probably more, because they have to do some bonuses, sorry special projects and GM Car Putz will become consultant with his own agency and stuff and will cost 50-150 millions vs. miserly 20 they paying him now (don’t shake your heads and look at salary – he gets stocks and bonuses and options and you can’t fly 2 choppers for mere 1.3 mills a year). This shall continue till 2011 or maybe 2012. Then congressmen/women will say “They fooled us: their cars suck and nobody buying them”. But first goes 30 billions and some more by the second half of this year.

]]> By: Veda http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439533 Veda Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:10:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439533 I agree that this is going to be a neverending cycle. They'll just keep asking for more loans if the economy doesn't recover fast enough which in my view it'll only get worse in a year or so. It'll be funny if they get an additional 100% loan but then filed chapter 11. I agree that this is going to be a neverending cycle. They’ll just keep asking for more loans if the economy doesn’t recover fast enough which in my view it’ll only get worse in a year or so. It’ll be funny if they get an additional 100% loan but then filed chapter 11.

]]> By: DB9 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439532 DB9 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:09:11 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439532 Nice market action today wouldn’t y’all agree;-) Do I hear Dow at 6000 and S&P at 600? Anyone? Hmm… As bad as it is now…it ain’t over yet…not by a stretch! Funny thing, some are making money off of all this…;-) Same thing happened “back in the day” when bankers were jumping out of windows and Sloan stepped into help out Durant. Rick, I know you Love nostalgia…remember Willi & Alfi;-) Amazing how everything comes full circle? I think you and Bob need some entertainment after being locked up with Givehimthefinger all last night and into the wee hours… DB9 PS. Kick back and chillax a little;-)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhW_vBDlTM PS. to the PS. Hmmm… Gold in a deflationary environment seems counterintuitive or…? Maybe there is a plan… Oh how the plot thickens… Nice market action today wouldn’t y’all agree;-) Do I hear Dow at 6000 and S&P at 600? Anyone? Hmm… As bad as it is now…it ain’t over yet…not by a stretch! Funny thing, some are making money off of all this…;-) Same thing happened “back in the day” when bankers were jumping out of windows and Sloan stepped into help out Durant. Rick, I know you Love nostalgia…remember Willi & Alfi;-) Amazing how everything comes full circle? I think you and Bob need some entertainment after being locked up with Givehimthefinger all last night and into the wee hours…

DB9

PS. Kick back and chillax a little;-)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRhW_vBDlTM

PS. to the PS. Hmmm… Gold in a deflationary environment seems counterintuitive or…? Maybe there is a plan… Oh how the plot thickens…

]]> By: DrFill http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439521 DrFill Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:52:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439521 Manualor is right Get back to basics Chevy and Caddy are your core Painted themselves into a corner with the UAW and franchise agreements DrFill Manualor is right
Get back to basics
Chevy and Caddy are your core
Painted themselves into a corner with the UAW and franchise agreements
DrFill

]]> By: Mutant@DCX http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439519 Mutant@DCX Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:40:33 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439519 Shore up the pension fund first and foremost GM. Then you can blow smoke up everybodies @SS @LL you want thereafter. Shore up the pension fund first and foremost GM.
Then you can blow smoke up everybodies @SS @LL you want thereafter.

]]> By: ManualorDeath http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439514 ManualorDeath Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:27:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439514 GM should get rid of the Buick, GMC, Pontiac & Saturn nameplates. Keep Chevy and Cadillac GM should get rid of the Buick, GMC, Pontiac & Saturn nameplates. Keep Chevy and Cadillac

]]> By: johnnycanuck http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439510 johnnycanuck Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:20:13 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439510 The pharmaceutical companies are going to have to change their classifications for pain relievers: Regular, Extra Strength and General Motors. The pharmaceutical companies are going to have to change their classifications for pain relievers: Regular, Extra Strength and General Motors.

]]> By: andy http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439509 andy Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:19:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439509 what about all the money they dumped into the TARP what about all the money they dumped into the TARP

]]> By: Need more oil for GM is an idiot http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439506 Need more oil for GM is an idiot Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:12:04 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439506 With all the money the goverment wasted on car companies they couldve helped its own citizens instead. With all the money the goverment wasted on car companies they couldve helped its own citizens instead.

]]> By: gugy http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439505 gugy Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:09:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439505 iluvamcars same to you fag. hahahahaha iluvamcars

same to you fag.

hahahahaha

]]> By: Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439500 Lariat Luxury Locomotive Liner No.3 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:53:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439500 <b>GM, and Chrysler, are now simply Titanic II & III.</b> I'd rather study the wreckage, and not repeat the mistakes, than to keep bailing while the ships are beyond repair. GM, and Chrysler, are now simply Titanic II & III. I’d rather study the wreckage, and not repeat the mistakes, than to keep bailing while the ships are beyond repair.

]]> By: TomF http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439498 TomF Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:46:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439498 The nameplate consolidation doesn't go far enough. I don't understand why Chevy needs the Traverse AND the Equinox, or the Spark AND the Cruze AND the Orlando AND the Pontiac Vibe. Or what "two Opel models" can possibly add to the list above. The nameplate consolidation doesn’t go far enough. I don’t understand why Chevy needs the Traverse AND the Equinox, or the Spark AND the Cruze AND the Orlando AND the Pontiac Vibe. Or what “two Opel models” can possibly add to the list above.

]]> By: typesblkura http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439497 typesblkura Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:44:47 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439497 GM is like a virus GM is like a virus

]]> By: iluvamcars http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439478 iluvamcars Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:28:02 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439478 Shut up Gugy. Shut up Gugy.

]]> By: Copperbottoms http://www.leftlanenews.com/gms-viability-plan-fewer-workers-dealers-nameplates-and-brands-but-more-loans-possible.html/comment-page-1#comment-439475 Copperbottoms Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:27:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=14818#comment-439475 It's too bad... if people were buying cars at all this would be alot easier all around. It’s too bad… if people were buying cars at all this would be alot easier all around.

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