should be a fairly quick car, i wonder how it will stack up compared to the old regal. 325hp not bad im sure people could get a good bit more power out of it after market.

Come on GM…you want to release a turbocharged, all-black version.

Totally agree with floor_it

where is this 2.8 L coming from? is it a opel or saab motor?

The 3.6 should match the output of the Camaro, 304 hp, then slap a supercharger on it just like the previous Regal GS used to have.

IF Buick really wanted to be bad ass, they would come out with a 2+2 seater coupe based on the Alpha platform slap this engine in it and call it the you know what….

Everytime I read a story like this I am completely dumbfounded. GM has had this car in its corporate arsenal all along and yet they never bothered to sell it here. Same goes for their awesome Holden products from Australia. And same for Ford with their mind-blowing Falcons in Australia, or their highly rated European Focus. These are all cars North Americans would have gladly paid full price for. Instead, they let BMW and Subaru sales and profits go through the roof selling us premium cars, while trying to convince us to buy front wheel drive four cylinder sedans at crippling discounts. If someone in the automobile industry is reading this I would sincerely like to know why that is. It was obviously doable since Lutz finally succeeded in bringing the Holden here as the G8. So, please tell me: Why did GM and Ford not sell us the cars we wanted?

IF you do this GM, please don’t water it down. This could be awesome, this could be the modern day GNX, please don’t screw this up…

This could be a very cool car.

This is the type of car that will help make a better name for Buick. I could see this car being a deal breakers for Buick when it comes to young professionals in U.S. We want to buy American cars. But, GM has very little to offer. Pontiac for so many people has just been a joke, and Buick has been feeding the lexus crowd for so many years. I want this car here, and Buick needs a sport sedan that is not over bloated and floaty.

You people need to stop dreaming. This car is not going to be anything that could compete with the CTS. It’s a sales suicide to do so.

Even with the 325hp engine, if this car is anything like the VAUXHALL Insignia VXR it’ll handle like a slightly over-powered large FWD car with AWD tacked on for giggles. Even then CADILLAC did that better, remember the Seville ST and El DORADO ETC.

The ALPHA Platform is a compact and the REGAL is Mid-sized. More over, it is going to CADILLAC first. If BUICK were to get one of GM RWD platforms, it would be the ZETA. The G8 was just a hair over mid-sized but the thing was actually smaller than the MALIBU. But such car would not fit GM’s plans for CADILLAC and BUICK. It would conflict with the CTS line-up. Time was when every division of GM had a coupe or two. That isn’t going to happen again.

The Bottom line is that GM is not going to go nuts to satisfy a handful of enthusiasts when they really need to make the mass to get the Company back in the black. Would I want a new REGAL GS, with BUICK’s current style and the up-to-date mechanicals of the ZETA platform (The Alpha is too small to be a Regal or any other BUICK nameplate except SkyHawk)? Personally no. I would go buy a CTS. But it would not be a bad thing as long as it happened.

reference Buick Skyhawk and H-body platform

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_H_platform_%28RWD%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Skyhawk

Very cool…

This is what I know so far….

Base engine 2.0 180HP
next 2.0T 220 HP
GS- 3.6 V6 280 HP 19 inch wheels, brembo brakes & AWD arrives 6 months later
All with 6 speed manual and autos..possible DSG arriving following year.
This car is gonna be real sweet.

With this the new amazing lacrosse, and MCE on the Enclave then finally the entry level sedan and hatch and smaller CUV Buick will have an Audiesque lineup with interiors that are as good if not better.

Entry buick yet named A3 fighter
Regal A4 fighter
Possible Regal coupe to be A5 fighter on the table right now …GNX
LaCrosse A6
New small CUV Q5 fighter
MCE Enclave Q7 fighter
From what I have seen , Buick is gonna take alot by surprise in the next few years, alot

DomKing, you’re preaching to the choir. Have several strong drinks, bash your head against the wall a few times, then go rent anything with “blue collar” in the title and watch it until Bill Engvall actually makes you laugh. If at that point you can snatch the pebble from my hand you may commence scouring the classifieds for that used 4 cylinder L-Series Saturn you remember some squeaky clean salesperson telling you was the future of the North American automobile and that if the sticker was negotiable he would be begging the management to put him on commission.

And yes Borat… I said snatch.

snatch was a good movie…hard to pick a winner between snatch and lock, stock and two smoking barrels, though…i like ‘em both…

while this is good news, it sounds pretty rumor-y still, and i wouldn’t get my panties in a twist until there was an actual car reviewed somewhere…if this does happen, though, it sends a pretty strong signal they’re trying hard to change the old buick perception…

did no one read my post …I have it on very good authority that this will happen and that the line up will look like that

Man, I remember back in 2004/05 when they first had talk about bringing the Camaro back onto its current platform you also heard rumors of platform sharing to revive the Firebird and Trans-Am. The first thing that ran through my mind was that they should can the Firebird for a bit and have Buick make GM an all new Grand National. God, that would almost make me hand over my car payments to a car company other than BMW. And talk about having the turbo 2.8 just makes it an abomonation not to make this happen. Buick, in my opinion could use a new sport enthusiest fanbase. Bringing back old brand names seems to work very well for the current domestic car market.

@DomKing: Mate I’m driving a 2k9 Falcon XR6 atm, and it’s friggin pretty cool, but I wish they would fix the gear box because the shifts at high rev’s are a little rough. You blokes get crapped on for cars from just about every manufacturer, however, that said, I wish I could get my hands on one of those CTS-V’s [wipes drool from mouth... sorry, eating a meat pie].

They’ll never put a 6 speed in a Buick… I mean cmon…

GM will need someone with real balls to import that engine and modify it to meet U.S. emission regulations. Usually instead of modding an existing engine, US marketing people always choose, cheaper, older, less powerful and less efficient engines as mean to get around the emission issue.

Well I hope Buick does offer something for driving enthusiasts and does bring back a RWD 2+2 coupe with a turbo charged V6 and a 6 spd manual. They have the Alpha platform. They have the styling. MAKE IT HAPPEN GM!!!!!

Why a 220hp turbo 4? The LNF has already been proven at 260hp in both FWD and RWD configurations. Why not offer it with the 180hp 2.4 Ecotec, the 260hp LNF, and the 306hp 3.6 out of the Camaro? That would be very competitive and would not require the development of any “new” technologies.

I personally think that offering the GNX as a 4 door Regal would be an insult to the GNX. Please if you bring back the GNX, base it off the Camaro platform. I would much rather see a rear wheel drive v8 powered GNX than front or all wheel drive GNX. If you really want to go heritage for the GNX use the Camero platform, go back to the basics with the tried and true 3.8L buick block used in the original GNX. upgrade it to direct injection and some of the newer technology to make it more efficient, and throw a big turbo on it. Make sure it is painted black. Lord Vader your car has arrived..

A4 – The dropped a 6 speed in a Cadillac why not a buick. Back in the 70’s the Skylark GS455 and GSX possibly even GS350 were optional with 4 speed manuals.

Hope they build it and it can race the Fusion SHO when Ford finally builds one…

the regal will do great in the new buick lineup. can’t wait to see it blow away the camry in quality, engineering, and technology.

ajm i wasnt looking for rational logic… I was merely making fun of how pathetic Buick is.

Why the old model names, and too boot, a four-door of all things. GM is simply readying this has-been model for the China market. GM gets saved through indentured taxpayers, and they still manage to go back to their old ways of doing business (the fact is GM never changed them). There’s progress for you!

God damn, they are really desperate for Lexus buyers; naming their car after one. Smh.

70% of Buick drivers are over 55 and 30% octogenarians. Which particular segment was asking for a turbo 4? Ridding itself of Pontiac and Saturn left GM with only “over the hill” and “educationally challenged” divisions (Buick and Chevy respectively). The more news coming out the more it looks like last days of this company.

I’m picturing a 4 pot tt GN in the future…. not liking it

A4 – This forum would be better with more people on here thinking rationally, and actually trying make a valid point. Nothing against you, more so NMOFGM people and clones. As for Buick being pathetic. That is your opinion and you have a right to express it. I personally like Buick’s. I always have ever since my parents had a 1980 Buick Regal, and a 1970 Buick Skylark when I was kid.

Ashes – The reason why they are bringing back the Regal name is due to the heritage of the Regal name. As for the cars all being four doors. Look at all the other offerings around. There are very few two coupes on the market now. I can think of the lower priced entries in GM (Cobalt), I am not sure if they still a Monte Carlo, if they do I have not seen one in ages. Camero, Corvette, Mustang, Callenger, Infiniti G35 Coupe, Nissan 370. There really is no market at the moment for two door family cars. As for GM using a car that was designed for China, good for them. The Opel Insignia based Regal will probably be just as good or better than the Toyota Camry. The LaCrosse is proof that GM can design and build good quality cars. JD Power has also proven that Buick has high customer satisfaction.

entry level bucik sedan will be called Verano
small cuv will be called Encore
Riviera is coming back looking like RWD/AWD coupe

GM, don’t go getting stupid with HP again.
Keep an even keel. Good, strong, middle of the road cars to sell to the masses first.

I do not think this line up is stupid with hp at all?

Ford Sucks! This car would be a big seller if they don’t water it down.

fordman do you have terets?

Come on, everyone. Even if you hate Lutz – what has he shown us? He wants Opel models over in the US and to not water them down. I say this GS is a done deal, and has been since they finalized the Regal coming over here. They have an opening in this psuedo-premium market not filled by anyone yet just under the CTS to put this out against the Mazda6s, TSXs and to some degree the VW CCs and low level A4s.

Think of the midsize market – where is there a AWD sports sedan under $35k? The Legacy 2.5GT and the Fusion Sport are the only two that comes to mind – and a 305hp V-6 with the Regals downright awesome looks would put this on all the shopping lists for this market – at least those who are educated enough to realize that this is a 100% European sedan with an American badge.

GM needs a youth orientaded halo-car for the Buick brand that still sells welll. Guess what? You’re looking at it.

Bottom line is, I really don’t see Buick turning its image upside-down like Cadillac did. Frankly the only reason Caddy did is because rappers put the Escalade all over MTV. Without that, who knows where they would be, or how successful of a turnaround would have taken place. I don’t envision rappers putting Enclave’s with big rims in music videos (unless they sing about old people) and I don’t envision Buick seeing the same turnaround that Cadillac did. Sure there are plenty of you naysayers, you’ll continue to say “they did it with Cadillac, why can’t Buick?”
Because for one, they don’t have the youthful MTV-like marketing push (a 1992 Century on Pimp My Ride doesn’t count) that I spoke about above, and because their designs are an evolution of their “previous” self. Look at a 2003 Cadillac CTS, and then look at the car it replaced, a Catera. Look at a 2005 STS and then look at a 2004 Seville. The only one that stayed on somewhat of a “same course” was the 2000 DeVille which looked significantly better than then 1999 DeVille, and the only people that bought those were old people, and like 5 rappers who just wanted a Caddy sedan to go with their Escalades. You don’t see any 20-30 somethings really snatching up DTS’s do you? No.
Now look at the LaCrosse. Yes it is a nice looking car, but take the revolution that the CTS was when compared to the “old” Cadillac and this is not a revolution by any means. It is a class competitive car, however the class is still a class for older folks who like Lexus ES350’s. Take the XLR, it isn’t a great car at the end of its lifecycle, but when it came out it was stunning – and it was one of the earlier hardtop convertibles, with futuristic styling and a hearty V8 under the hood. It was a very good halo car. Something Buick does not have unless some kind of wild Riviera comes along, which it won’t be for a while at least. The last generation SRX was awesome. It got rave reviews across the board, had a nice V8, looked very mean and distinctive, and well frankly it has been replaced by a watered down version, but it was an awesome crossover. The Enclave is a beautiful car and a great crossover, but it isn’t the same type of crossover that the last SRX was.
Also, does everyone remember the Led Zeppelin “Rock and Roll” ads, with Cadillac’s doing smokey burnouts and sliding out their tales and flying all around the place haphazardly? Of course you do. What the hell does Buick have for commercials? Some gay guy taking pictures of the new LaCrosse like its at a model doing a photo shoot for some crappy girly magazine? Doesn’t exactly cater to a youthful crowd. If they really wanted to go that route they should have paid Hugh Hefner to make a cameo and made the commercial a risque Playboy shoot. Then the “youthful” crowd might have some interest, at least some of them. The “Rock and Roll” ads were brilliant. They had a riotous soundtrack that people young AND old instantly identified with, and they were tons of fun. The Buick ads are not. They are just another ad.
Good luck fixing your image Buick, I’m very sure you will sell more cars, because they are good cars, but they are not youthful cars. Putting a turbo V6 under the hood of a Regal and (doubtfully) sticking in a manual transmission isn’t going to fix everything
Remember the supercharged Buick Regal GS and the even faster Buick Regal GSX (270 hp)? No? Nobody else does either. Simply making a Buick faster has not worked since the GNX – and the GNX was touted as the “fastest production sedan ever built” back in 1987. This wont be. This new Buick will be a flop like the Regal GS and GSX, sure it sounds good to all of us enthusiasts now, but only 2 of us will actually buy one.

@Dom

The unions, the government, and finally and most deadly… misplaced Pride.

A4 – I believe part of your rant correct. Dropping a turbo charged 6cyl into this regal definately will make a show stopper of a vehicle that everyone one will buy. It will however if they do it properly give the Lexus IS 250 a run for its money. And I know a lot of guys my age that would look at those (I am 33 by the way).

What I suggested earlier in the post and yes it highly doubtful that buick will do it, is make a GNX off the Camero platform and go after Infinity G35 coupe and any other sporty coupes like that. Take on what you can, IE Lexus, Infiniti, Acura etc. Leave BMW and Mercedes, to a degree Audi for Cadillac. But if you consider a GNX again as a Halo car for your brand, please make it available with a manual, and make it show stopper.

Did no one else notice LWA admitting he wears panties?

Ajm11: I mentioned myself, above, The platform the Camaro is under would make a fantastic base for a new Grand National.I’m with you on this. So is Gm in fact. At least they were. GM back in 2005 actually had thier designers make CAD Grand Nationals as well as sketched versions. I have the issue of GM High Tech Performance with the sketches and 3-D models back from 2005. The car was beautiful and I really want them to produce it. The turbo 2.8 making 325 HP for the base Grand National, and the supercharged LS series engine for the upper end GNX model sounds dreamy to me. (supercharged LS engine to insure the blown engine heritage stays true to the GN name.) Its just that the Regal nameplate hits harder with Buick’s fanbase as well as larger “sedanlike” platforms. If GM makes it out of this hole they dug maybe we could see a modern Grand National.

To a4: Buick has a totally different advertizing team than Cadillac does. I guess thats all that needs to be said there. Also, I think rappers producing music video’s want more Cadillac’s than Cadillac wants rappers using thier vehicle’s in video’s on MTV. If I was Cadillac that part of my fanbase would be considered negative exposure. I totally agree with you on the Devilles, and XLR’s. Its just that the rest seems just an opinion to me. That’s cool though I want to read about everyones opinion, it just seemes like alot of opinions on this site are given by people who seriously think that what they think is the rule. We both know that is annoying.

The only faithful way they could make a true GNX would be based off a Regal like the original, and it would have to come only in black, and somehow be a coupe. A 4-door wouldn’t work for a new GNX, and I don’t think it could work for anyone who knows what the real GNX is if it was based off a Camaro, unless they make it look like a pissed off Regal like the original. A new age GNX is very unlikely and there are so many ways GM could (and probably would) screw it up if they tried.

comp.mode – Cadillac owes the entire success of the Escalade to music videos on MTV. I would think they deeply appreciate the free marketing that they get, and their brand image has nothing but improved. Old people don’t watch MTV and will never see them going around in music videos, and Caddy now gets the best of both worlds. Their demographics are all over the board and that is exactly what they need. I’m sure a couple snooty people at GM scoff at 50 Cent in his Escalade, but none of the accountants do.

Hey cool! GM’s bringing over another awesome [not tongue-in-cheek] Opel. Well we all know how that turned out last time…

A Grand National, does not necessarily have to be based off a Regal. It just has to be a rear drive Buick with a nasty demeanor with lots of power. Of course painted black would be necessary as well. But if you dont like a Camero based GNX, they could always call it a GSX after the 70-71 Skylark. The GNX was not Buick’s only Hi-Po car.

I’m liking this badge engineered Opel…can’t believe I’m attracted to a Buick (!).

This marks the return of Buick Opel in America….

The real only faithful way to make a GNX is base it off the real, real GNX. Which was a limited production version of the Grand National that shared the same platform as the Monty Carlo. You will only see GM engineers and exec.’s driving those. Or the extremely lucky. And yes it would have to be two doors and probably based of the same platform as the Camaro due to the financing it would take to produce a similar structure. It would also have to be blown and black.
To a4: I would have to say the Escalade has every success it has due to the Suburban. Every cent that went into the Escalade came from the profit gained from the sum of Suburban MSRP”s, thier tax write-offs at the end of the year, and the parts and labor from repairing Suburbans and Escalades alike. Nothing is what Cadillac gains from pop culture. Because you are still given the right to buy Mercedes, Nissan, BMW within that culture. I know where you are comming from with Cadillac and stereotypes. But that fact even though it is fact is just incalculable. Know what I mean? It’s one of those String theory, Quantum theory things. Ok I’m sounding gay. ****, Enzo, 4-link rear suspension. There.

I also believe that Buick has the right to go in any direction they want or need. Not like BMW. BMW is an independant company. Like the way Cadillac did. Just like that. See, GM knew they were going bankrupt, waaay before they went bankrupt and double waaay before the rest of the world did. The deal was, within the Bush administration, that in the following presidential term Chrystler and GM, and possibly Ford all had the bailout plan “green lighted.” The big reasons action was taken in the latter administration was funding needed to be gathered ahead of time and this was the administration that was forseen as a time for change and fresh starts. Ford had risen above the need for bail and then you had the cash for clunckers program because that remaining money needed to go back into international economy. That foresight on GM’s part allowed them to see what sacrifices (Saturn, Saab, Pontiac, lay-offs, etc.) it would take to put a promising brand like Cadillac into a wider luxury dept. Using the only meathods they had, such as putting the CTS-V’s performance just a hair above the aging M5’s (and JUST performance) that could put them there. The Catera was supposed to be exactly what these current enthusiast oriented Cadillacs are right now. The consumers didnt take the bait, unfortunately, that the Catera was on par with the 3 series in engine management, weight bias, and suspestion geometry. I really wish that would have hit off. But now it is. And I’m hoping thats why Buick is still here. Buick is great with heritage. Using current platforms GM can give Buick its own identity and put it right in deep with Mercedes. Mercedes is down on parts trading now. Especially on electrics. No partners are rersponding to meeting summonses. I think since GM has Cadillac on the heels of BMW (still a ways back though) Buick has potential on Mercedes. Just what i think. Pontiac had greatness just too late. if you look at the numbers the G8 is a 1998-03 M5 without the awesome M5 V-8. M5’s were disected to produce the G8. MacPhereson A-arm suspesion geom. weight, weight bias are all the same with that generation M5. I’m hoping that GM takes that momentum and put it into Buick. I really do. Bring back the Grand National, the Skylark, the Regal, and even the Riviera.

I’m up too late typing too much.

comp.mode, if Buick brought back a Grand National, a Skylark, a Riviera, then they might have a chance, but the chances are they probably won’t, at least not in the next decade. They should have kept some glimmer of Pontiac alive for the rest of us – like G8’s at Buick dealerships. Chrysler is going to do it with the Fiat 500, why can’t GM do it with the G8 and Solstice?
Lets hope they don’t base a new GNX off of the most recent Monte Carlo either… Lord help us if we were stuck with a front drive 2 door Impala with a Buick snout. Buick simply isn’t going to “wow” people like Cadillac did – and Cadillac is withering on the vine right now. The only “world class” vehicles left in their lineup are the CTS and the new SRX, and if you really want the Escalade… but that one is arguable. The STS is old and tired, the XLR needs to be redesigned (not killed) and the DTS needs whatever this STS/DTS merge to hurry up. They need to make the Sixteen, they need a 7-series/A8/S-class competitor, and they could sure use that Converj to put them ahead of the rest for efficiency. Personally, I also think they need a new [exciting] RWD car that undercuts the A4/3-series/C-class for around $26,000 to slot below the CTS as well, since they’re so gung-ho about calling it a 5-series competitor.

@ ajm11, if the Grand National is not based off a Regal, then it is not a true Grand National. That is what the original was, a Regal, with a turbocharger on the 3.8Liter engine.

But you’re right, it wasn’t the only Hi-Po car. Don’t forget the Riviera too.

One thing about the Riviera, wasn’t it a front wheel drive car, even in the 80’s? Unless during the 70’s it was rear drive, I would think making it rear drive now isn’t keeping up with the original.

All I know is that if the Regal comes back, I will look at it for my next vehicle, and I’m only 29. My first car was an ‘85 Regal, I loved that car.

@A4, I seriously doubt the GNX would be based off the recent Monte Carlo. The Impala is the only car left on that platform, the W-body, which I never understood all the hate on it. Anyway, they’re phasing it out, I just don’t think they know what the hell they’re doing with the Impala yet.

Btw, I drive an ‘06 Monte, and there’s nothing wrong with it. Granted I would have preferred it rear wheel drive like a Monte should have been, but it is still a strong car. Those 3.9 Liter engines pack a good punch, with all that torque.

To a4: Again…Most of everything you said, is simply opinion. Yes, thats great, but, opinion. Red is better than green. Alot of people could possibly agree. Awesome. Again, like I said, these are just chance issues, more so MY chance issues. You are asking things like: why cant Buick do what Chrystler did, and saying, “if Buick brought back so snd so”.I’m not going top put words in your mouth but you may seem to have responsibilities crossed with different task takers and givers. Just clearing things up here ok. Buick doesnt have any say about the Skylarks they bring back nore could they invite a second party manufacturer such as Fiat. To to sum it up as simply as possible, Buick produces what GM engineeres. I know that YOU know that in some way 100%. But please dont tell us you were tring to trick people,LOL, or anything. With all respect you can see how things are crossed right? Therefore Cadillac is not withering on a vine, and Buick cant “wow” people like Cadillac did, nor did Cadillac “wow” anybody at all right? Anyway so when you were saying “they” as in, “lets hope They dont base a new GNX off the most recent Monte Carlo “, if you were refering “they” as GM then I’m all with you there. I really dont think that basing it off the Camaro would go against the Grand Nationals heritage, however, I do believe that that platform is the only logical shoice. It’s a good choice to because that platform was made to easily extend and retract all while keeping safety and rigidity unimpacted. Onto why cant GM do what Fiat/Chrystler did, well, its just that. If GM had a totally different manufacturer voluntarily team engineers designers and all that implies in a merger, well, i guess we could say GM can do it to. But c’mon. Alot of what you see in automotive posts is just amazing in wich people think companies could run themselves exactly how a post gets typed up. Just merge with Hyundai Gm, what are you waiting for??? Or simply moving G8’s onto Buick dealerships. What Chrystler and Fiat do have now though is just magical. The new Alfa sedan coming in 2013 called the Berlina using updated Chrystler 300 architecture-Mercedes components from two generations back-so Alfa can compete with BMW’s 5 series? Combining with it an engine using Fiats new air technology engine I might add, thats just cool. Yeah I wish GM could get something like that. Mercedes is not going to find new trade partners anytime so GM can put Buick into position. Even if it is outside this decade. Hey, we are ALL going to disagree on things. Personally though, A4, I think you are an asset to this website. Thats not me sucking up, thats just what I get through observation. Even though you may disagree at times with me, as with, everybody , I say its just a disagreement. I’m not trying to injure your outlook, I just really am trying to provide information, lol. Yeah, a new “caddy” undercutting the 3-series and the CTS, hell yeah! Just FYI I’ve read recently that they are creating a platform so Cadillac can do just that. Awesom right!? Yeah, and other GM companies like Buick and Chevrolet are destined to gain the benifit.

@ RPMfan – Yes I know the Grand National/GNX was based off the Regal. It was, and those that are left are incredible performance machines. But Grand National/GNX is a name. It does not particularly have to stay with the platform it was started on, as long as the performance heritage stays with it. And in this case, if they do bring back the Grand National/GNX I hope to he!! that they do not base it off a 4 door Regal. That will be as big an insult to that car as the 4 door Charger is to that name. If done right, the Grand National/GNX could be brought back on the Camero platform and still hold the performance heritage of the name. They could even put it back in Nascar if they did that as it appears the Mustang is going to be showing up there for Ford.

RPM fan: Yeah i think that A4 was simply “hoping” that the Grand National and GNX would not use the Monty/Impala platform. Its just an aging “old school” GM platform. Although RWD would have made a world of difference upon the Monty Carlo and its fanbase. However that would have required a whole new platform. So i guess we just answered the main question to all that is causing our pain now didnt we.

The engine you have in your car is a 3.8 though right?

Man I didnt even know the GN was a Nascar. Cool. How did I miss that. Guess I forgot.

The Regal was in Nascar. Not necessarily the Grand National.

Put a twin turbo setup on the 3.6L DI with 450hp, hooked up to an AWD system, and call it the Grand National or GNX. Keep the price below $50k, and it will sell like hotcakes, and give Buick a major brand image overhaul in the process, which it definitely needs. GM can’t lose with that formula, but they can easily mess it up by not putting a worthy engine in it, or keeping it FWD. The Grand National and GNX names are big shoes to fill – they are legendary.

To ajm11: Ah! Thanks.

To Z06ified: Yeah GM should just simply do that. ‘Cause that would just be like the best thing that they could do right now. Easy as hotcakes guys, just do it, and make it under $50k. I cant see what mountains they would have to climb. Just pull that AWD system over there out of that parts bin.

Kidding, kidding. Sorry.

Yes I’m aware that platform is dead. Like comp.mode said, the Monte Carlo is the real way to make a GNX, but the most recent Monte Carlo is not the real way to make a Monte Carlo, so I guess I’ll leave it at that. I’m sure it is a great car day to day, there is nothing WRONG with it persay, but a FWD Monte Carlo is even more of a sacrilege than the FWD Impala.

A4 – I agree, a front drive Monte Carlo and Impala was sacrileges. They should have left it with the Lumina name and never hurt the Impala and Monte Carlo names by putting them on a FWD platform. Just like Dodge should never have put the Charger name on a 4 door sedan. They should have had the Charger as the Magnum Sedan and made coupe called the Charger.

a turbocharged 325 hp awd buick would be very nice, and would be the only way GM would have something on their hands in the U.S. that would have a chance at competition with the Ford SHO Taurus, but ill believe it when i see it. If you all read clearly, the article states that the likely engine would be the DI 3.6 V6 with only 280 hp, making an exciting Buick, but hardly any competition for the mighty SHO

Nickkop – Would the Regal even be competing with the Taurus SHO? I think the SHO may be a bigger car than the Regal. I would more put the Regal GS up against the Lexus IS 250 if anything.

@ comp.mode,
As for answering the RWD thing, I agree, they would have had to spend a lot to get a platform for a Monte Carlo.

As for the engine, no it has the 3.9 V-6, with the 242hp. In ‘07, they dropped the hp about 15 or so. ‘06 was the first year of the 3.9, 3.5, and 5.3 liter engines in the Impala/Monte Carlo. It was their “redesigns”. I say it in quotes because GM took 2 cars that had some similar features, but could tell they were different to making them with the same exact look. Only difference was the body lines on the Monte were more distinct. Other than that, take an ‘06-’07 Monte Carlo and an ‘06-present Impala sit them side by side and look at the front ends, you can’t tell them apart.

That is GM’s major problem, platform sharing. In fact, apparently this new Regal is basically a Malibu with a different body, and that is coming from a GM salesperson I spoke with today about it. They’re still doing that crap.

@ ajm11,
I couldn’t agree more about the 4 door thing, regarding a potential Grand National and the Charger.

@ Nickkop,
The Taurus is a FULL sized car, the Regal will be the midsize car. 2 different classes. The Lacrosse is in the same class as the Taurus, though I’m not sure they’re really competing for the same customers.

@ A4,

Quick nitpick. If rap videos saved Cadillac through the Escalade, why is Lincoln where they are in spite of nearly equivalent Navigator coverage?

Just saying.

Actually the new Regal will share little with the Malibu. the Malibu is an Epsilon I and the Regal is Epsilon II, a new revised architecture.

It does share with the LaCrosse however. I would think the chassis/powertrain is shared as is the front of dash. Not much else is shared however and I would doubt anyone could tell that those bits are shared (other than the powertrains of course).

Kafziel… I’ve never seen a Navigator on MTV. Nearly equivalent my white ass. I’m not nitpicking, but if all of you want to argue against pop-culture giving Cadillac a huge boost, then you’re all fools, fools I say. Read through everything I had to say and it had alot more than the Escalade as a pop culture icon (although it is). The Navigator isn’t even CLOSE.

Not to come off as too defensive

“…they really need to make the mass to get the Company back in the black.”

Agreed, Blakkar. And the best way to do this is to change the ‘Grannie’s Car’ image of Buick with something for the younger folks (30 somethings who just had to trade in their Eclipse for more doors) who can afford more than a Fiesta. I’d call this step three, after Enclave and the new LaCrosse. You don’t change public perception by building the same cars you always have.

Hence the reason for a compact vehicle and a compact CUV at Buick. They are coming. Just hope they are “cool” enough to not be “considered” old fart vehicles. A Mini type vehicle would do it?