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  • Honda Civic Hybrid class-action suit settlement announced

    By Mark Kleis - Posted December 17th 2009

    Approximately 120,000 owners of 2003-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids filed a class-action lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Central District of California, and they have now been presented with a proposed settlement. The lawsuit is based on the claim that Honda knowingly advertised MPG figures that were unrealistic and misled their customers.

    The class-action lawsuit has already been shot down once before in 2006, with the court awarding Honda summary judgment on all claims.

    Since the lawsuit first failed, it has since been taken up by two named plaintiffs — John True and Gonzalo Delgado, as well as 120,000 Civic Hybrid owners. Although the lawsuit points out the 49 city and 51 highway miles per gallon EPA rating, (which has since been adjusted with the latest model and EPA test to reflect a more realistic 40 city and 45 highway mpg) the new lawsuit is not arguing that the EPA ratings were incorrect.

    The lawsuit does not attack the EPA ratings as they are protected by federal law, but instead accuses Honda of knowingly and directly advertising the EPA figures as obtainable with normal driving in their advertisements. The lawsuit proposes that Honda was aware that the numbers were egregiously incorrect, and in reality were closer to an average of 31 mpg.

    According to The New York Times, Honda says that the accusations are illogical, and that it simply followed the figures and guidelines provided by the EPA and federal government. Despite Honda not agreeing to any wrongdoing, it has agreed to settle the lawsuit.

    The settlement calls for the two named plaintiffs, Mr. True and Mr. Delgado, to receive cash payments in the amount of $12,500 and $10,000 respectively. Also named in the settlement is the award of a coupon voucher for the remaining 120,000 owners for $1,000 off of a new Honda – with stipulations.

    The voucher cannot be used on the new Honda Insight Hybrid, Civic Hybrid, Fit, or any used or certified Honda or Acura. Furthermore, the voucher is non-transferable and the Civic Hybrid named in the lawsuit must be sold or traded-in for the voucher to be valid.

    For the customers who are unable, or uninterested in purchasing any of the qualifying vehicles they will be eligible for a $100 cash settlement, as well as an educational DVD on how-to obtain better fuel economy.

    The attorneys responsible for filing the class-action lawsuit are being proposed $2.95 million in cash, without stipulations.

    According to The New York Times, some groups are complaining that the payout proposal is a bad deal for the owners.

    “The purchaser of a Honda Civic Hybrid is a person who is interested in fuel economy,” said Clarence Ditlow, the executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, a consumer advocacy group that opposes the settlement.

    “So, the settlement allows them to buy any vehicle but a fuel-efficient vehicle. In other words, you get a coupon for the purchase of a vehicle that you don’t want,” said Ditlow.

    Texas’ attorney general, Greg Abbott, argues in a court filing that the true victims in this case will get “very minimal relief” and that the settlement is biased in favor of helping Honda sell more cars.

    As of Monday Texas joined 25 other attorneys general in asking the judge to reject the proposed settlement.

    31 COMMENTS

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      A4225 days ago

      I hate California.

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      Zesty Honda225 days ago

      This Lawsuit is Bull****, fight this Honda. If these idiots can’t understand what EPA estimated means then they deserve what they’ll get. Also, this lawsuit is simply a way for lawyers to make big money and walk away richer. The Lawyers get millions and plaintiffs get thousands; stupid lawsuit if you ask me.

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      0-60225 days ago

      @A4
      Tell me about it I live in the state.

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      idrinorbarsaku225 days ago

      whenever I read about hybrids not meeting their “hybridness” mileage figures, I think of the top gear episode where it was the prius vs. the M3….very interesting results!

      and 2.9million in cash for those lawyers??? HOLY CRAP!!
      All owners of a certain vehicle model should join and deliberately drive with a heavy shoe so they can say their car didn’t meet their mileage expectations. We can get a lawyer who is our friend and they can cut us in on this frivolous deal!

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      chevymanc6225 days ago

      Wow whats with the jap companies and their lies. First Toyota creates a false reputation for quality, spits on loyal customers, ignores safety issues, and now Honda is lieing to make their cars seem good. Why do people buy these cars? Its time for people to wake up and see these companies for what they really are.

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      fordman225 days ago

      Hey everybody,Ford SUCKS! Looks like Honda took a page out of Ford’s book. There is a class action lawsuit being filed about that ugly hybrid Fusion’s bogus gas mileage. Seems like people are getting 30% to 40% less then the advertised gas mileage!

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      idrinorbarsaku225 days ago

      fordman,
      you might have been the class-clown back in school, but there is still time to turn your life around!

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      sprockkets225 days ago

      @chevymanc6, what’s that stupid GMC that claims to get 32MPG?

      @fordman, go fu ck yourself!

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      daiso225 days ago

      Honda is as suck as Toyota.

      Some air bags spontaneously deploy; Honda blames drivers
      9NEWS.com – ‎Aug 30, 2009‎
      http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=122340&catid=339

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      Kid Icarus225 days ago

      I hate hybrids.

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      sprockkets225 days ago

      @daiso, the link you posted showed around 96 complaints. Honda sells around what, over 500,000 cars a year, and this was since 2004?

      I think it is stupid that they won’t fix it, but I’m not worried about 96/2,500,000 or 0.000000384% of their vehicles having issues either.

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      A4225 days ago

      Mr. Delgado, may I see your green card?

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      DrFill224 days ago

      You could make this claim about ANY car having an estimated EPA
      NORMAL DRIVING is the key to this
      Obviously, these people are not normal
      And don’t drive normally
      Pretty disturbing story actually
      DrFill

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      AnfHollisterGuy224 days ago

      This lawsuit is such garbage. I am not defending Honda, especially being in the last year or so I have definitely seen a sharp decline in their quality, but these are most likely people that are buying this car thinking that it is going to grant them a miracle. Most likely, they are still driving this car in normal conditions, with a lead foot and hard, and clearly do not know anything about EPA estimates. They should have done their research and took in to consideration the words “Expected range for most drivers” and on most or all window stickers, the disclaimer “Your actual mileage will vary, depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle”. All of these people that are going to be squeezing money out of Honda, should first be given a class on how to drive like a normal human being if you are going to buy a hybrid, and should have to present ALL of the vehicles maintenance records, and not for nothing but before I purchased my 2010 Jetta SE (Which is getting almost 32 MPG) I test-drove a honda insight that was averaging 53 MPG, honda knows what they are doing… these people are just a bunch of effin douche bags with nothing better to do than complain.

      @Zesty Honda – I agree with you on the Lawyer Comment… most likely people who had no previous knowledge of anything related to a car, let alone EPA ratings.

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      03T4R224 days ago

      Stupid greedy people, this suit is a total sham. Even the non-hybrid Civic of those years got about 31 mpg. The lawyers are the only ones making out on the deal, $116,000 each.

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      reedfast224 days ago

      wow, insult to injury, if you don’t want the voucher, you get 100 bucks and a DVD ON HOW TO DRIVE BETTER, honda must really love their customers.

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      Borat224 days ago

      It stumps me to think that there is state that would allow a lawsuit against proclamation(how do you call EPA numbers?) written by federal government. What amazing to me that Honda execs turned lemon into lemonade: they payed cash less then 25 large to 2 douche bags who sold their names to lawyers for lawsuit initiation. Honda will have to pay high 6 digits to their own legal team for this. They gave coupons redeemable at Honda(!) dealers to 120 thousands douchebags that already bought Civic Hybrid. Basically for a grand they locked in audience. Any car manufacturer would die to spend only a grand per car on promo. Or yes, scheisters were payed 3 mils to walk away. If you divide it by 120,000 it is nothing.

      @Lion, you better study hard and pass that bar :) !

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      Smegley Wanxalot224 days ago

      Am no fan of modern day Honda but they should win this. If Honda loses, then next in line they should sue the crap out of every politician for every broken promise, and Tiger should be imprisoned because he promised to “forsake all others.”

      California is a crap hole any more.

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      johnnycanuck224 days ago

      I just find it absolutely astounding that everyone of those 120,000 diligently calculated their fuel mileage from day one of ownership and have documented proof of their allegations.

      Oh wait… they’re just trying to get on the gravy train you say? Naww… are there really people like that?

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      RaineMan224 days ago

      This just goes further to show that the EPA mileage rating system is badly flawed, especially in the case of hybrids. The battery of tests they run each vehicle through to determine fuel mileage “averages” need to be completely overhauled.

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      Borat224 days ago

      Johnny, this is all about California. We are not exactly describing human race here. You should take a vacation south, it is not that far, but can be scary.

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      jcrewzn@yahoo.com224 days ago

      Many HCH owners (including myself) know and have experienced a failure with the hybrid drive system and battery. Honda’s solution was to revise the programming resulting in a drastic decrease in MPG. Brand new I was getting 45.7 MPG, it dropped to 38.6 MPG before the IMA failed, and now after the reprogramming / “fix” I can barely get 32 MPG. My habits have not changed, and yes I know how to drive a hybrid to maximize my ratings. It is called “Managed Perception” folks these vehicles can not maintain the claim of getting better MPG due to deficiency in the programming and hybrid drive system. Honda threw a band-aid on it and now cash to do damage control. The reality is HCH owners paid a $3500 premium over the standard Civic, yet we are achieving nearly identical AVG MPG ratings. I would like to see the EPA test the HCH after Honda’s “fix” is installed, it will not be pretty!

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      JakeK66224 days ago

      I could get 32 MPG out of the turbo GTI and didn’t have to look like an ignorant D-bag.

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      RaineMan224 days ago

      Are they serious about 32MPG? Doesn’t a regular Civic get better than that?

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      Blakkarr224 days ago

      This has all the markings of Lawyers looking to score some money and some points. While Case Action Lawsuits can be a useful legal tool, especially against large isolated corporations, it is also a scam waiting to happen with little effort to make it so.

      I am more than a little dismayed with HONDA’s lack of drive and vision, they are also falling down in design and, if not engineering, certainly execution. and if Jcrewzn’s (BTW that better not be your actual email address. Dumb move.) case is typical of HONDA’s “build it and forget it” mentality, then I little sympathy for HONDA.

      If this is a Legit CA Lawsuit and, on the face of it, it doesn’t look entirely like one, then it is over HONDA not actually fixing the car. Again as Jcrewzn pointed out.

      I think HONDA is in a LOT more trouble than they are letting on.

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      RaineMan224 days ago

      I think Chevy should offer a $1000 voucher for anyone trading in a Honda on a new Malibu or Equinox… help get the word out to all these import lovers about how good the new vehicles from GM actually are.

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      FSVT_ROCK224 days ago

      Hey guys.

      I think people who brough the Hybrid miss understand that, the vehicle actually can get a good MPG not by keep pushing the RPM to the max like most people did. My 98 Mercury Mystique V6 get about 22 mpg in the city and 35 mpg on the highway. Fatory has not miss leading the MPG, as an American we are always been pushing that gas padel too hard all the time.

      Govt test is using on the dyno not a real world driving, and that why when you see it (on the sale sheet) say Civic Hybrid get 32 MPG AVG that mean it can go between 28 to 38 MPG and depend on your driving habite. There was a test from one of the NASCAR driver, who test on the Ford Fusion Hybrid that got about 85 MPG (AVG test on Ford Fusion Hybrid was 31 MPG in the city and 40 MPG on the highway). How did he do it, none stop driving on and off ong high way drive. Most of our vehicle actually can do better MPG then you think, but most of American people are too agressive on it.

      There is a website that you can look at before you buy any vehicle use or new, and you can see what people get on the MPG in real world driving (not the Govt or factory).

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      Bubs Solo224 days ago

      These folks may have a point because the Honda Civic Hybrid system does suck badly…And Honda did claim (brochures) this vehicle could travel on electric power w/o the gas engine which is complete deception. But these tards should have gotten their law degrees before sueing then it may have been worth there while.

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      sprockkets224 days ago

      “..help get the word out to all these import lovers about how good the new IMPORT vehicles from GM actually are.”

      TFTFY

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      jayjc08224 days ago

      I think you guys are missing the point. It’s an error with the driving system, one that’s definitive, not just the drivers. There’s a big difference between 45 and 32 mpg, but they ended up paying a premium for a product that promised better figures that was tested to achieve those figs.

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      DrFill224 days ago

      These must be the same jerks I see on the highway
      In THE RIGHT LANE
      Doing 100MPH in a Prius
      Does the term Drop Dead mean anything?
      DrFill

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