Tow truck companies and repair shops rejoice. Another POS Honda to bring you work!

Buy American. Buy GM. It is our patriotic duty

Stupidity will always live on in this nation!!!

Maybe if they made a top model with a better motor in it this car would be worth it. And I hope they take the back end down some, its too sheer IMO.

There’s no way US automakers are going to be able to compete in the future, unless they do some major overhauling. Asian and European automakers are already way ahead on hybrid cars that the US is going to struggle a great amount to get to the same level as them.

Tetsujinn:
Have you heared of the Volt?

Tetsujinn is right though,
US will need some major overhauling because, no offense, their cars are getting bad and unreliable and lets not speak of how Euro and Asian companies are thinking about being after the curve.
Think about how Americars were and how they are, it should be the other way around.

Cool CR-Z.

Rafa LL:
‘their cars are getting bad and unreliable’
Please explain.

Yea Tet the Volt thats going to be out in late 2010 ????? or 2012 or 2015 ?? with a whopping 40 miles on electric power while the Tesla, who went to GM with his product, will get 220 miles.
Honda has to dethrone Toyota bc Toyota is on top of their game when it comes to Hybrid technology. The Insight needs to mirror the features offered in the new Prius if it wants to beat it. This CRz looks great and I cant wait for the Fit Hybrid to hit. The only company that Honda and Toyota need to look out for is Hyundai. Hyundai will be unveiling hybrid technology in the upcoming years

Anyone (other than NMOFGM who is a complete moron) who challenges Honda on their motors need to have their head checked. That’s Honda’s core competency. That’s what they are known for in the industry.

As for the Fit getting the hybrid treatment- will it only have 2 horsepower?? That think already runs on rubber bands as it is!

The Volt might be GM’s end-all-be-all, but until I hear about pricing more in the 20’s and not high 30’s low 40’s, then it’s a joke. Even with the rebates.

This car looks great! But it’s all just a concept mockup. The d3 are in a tight position right now since all major auto companies are coming up with newer cars with great technology!

Forget what I said. I’m an idiot.

haahahahhah!! I like the “_”!!!!

Are either of them going to have a manual transmission? Honda did it before with the very first Insight so we know it’s possible.

i’m not going to wade into the brewing flame-fest here, but if honda wants to revisit the crx concept – but from the hybrid angle – i’m interested to see how that turns out…i wouldn’t expect real zippy performance, but electric motors do have a good amount of torque, so perhaps around town this thing could be fun…it’s all relative, though…power/weight ratio and efficiency could be tough to balance in a small car like that, though…

Compared to a lot of Honda’s design styles, this one looks rather pleasing. Nice and simple from my point of view. I really hate that big grill, though.

I want to see how they can balance the HP and torque in a hybrid like that.

with only 140hp i don’t see it as going to be all that fun, unless it really light but with the weight of a battery pack drought it will be that light. maybe 2600lb but i don’t think so.(don’t think they will use lithium). it don’t think it will be slow but not that fast or that fun.

More underperforming 4-bangers from Honda.

Give me a Fit Si… then we’ll talk, until then I won’t even think about looking at any of your overpriced bland cars.

HONDA SUX, buy a gm. you wont need to fill up with gas or do oil changes for the first 100,000 miles.
so come on down to big gay als fine auto.

bye gm. its the way of the future……….

Johnny, my guess is that manual is a wishful thinking. The beauty of this price point that Honda will reuse existing platform in different shape. It is relatively inexpensive to rebuild a mold, it is expensive to redesign a car. But lets hope that they will drop in manual and clutch: in Europe there is still appreciation for two feet operation.

1115, Tesla is a $100K roadster and it still has the issue that once you hit 150 miles you better be heading for home. Now that is fine for a car that is only meant for rich people for around town usage w/o need for carrying more than 2 people BUT it does not meet the wants of most consumers.

Not sure what your comment on the Volt timing is meant to show but perhaps you missed the latest that it is ahead of schedule and coming out in ‘10. Again, your constant try to bring misinformation here shows that you cannot bring unbiased opinions here.

All Honda has to do is bring out a competitive hybrid to the Prius at a competitive price and it will sell as well as hybrids do, which all depends on the price of gas.

The really big news is the Hybrid Fit in my opinion.

***tripleonefive***

We REALLY need to debunk this 220 miles of Tesla vs. 40 miles for the Volt. 40 miles is 75% of Americans without using one drop of gas. HERE”S THE DIFFERENCE: You can drive up to 640 miles with the Volt. With a Tesla you can’t drive from Detroit to Chicago, or LA to San Francisco, or whatever “road trip” you intend. Who out there hasn’t hit the open road for an extended trip (or never intends to)? Lastly who out there can afford 90k? On a 4 year lease that’s 1,875 a month! + insurance. Sorry, admittedly 35k after the tax reimbursement is a lot, but it’s still within range for this technology.

The Volt is expected to be the hottest new car of the decade. Anyone who knocks it is a complete idiot. The asking price BS going around is reasonable for those who want the world class quality, reliability and dependibility of a hybrid built by Geneal Motors, the world Standard.

The rest of you yahoos who don’t care bout such things can go bu a POS Toyota or Honda and we’ll be laughing at your sorry ass vehicle as its once again stuck on the median strip of the highway. Go ahead and embarrass yourself by driving an import. The rest of us will continue to mock and taunt you for being an unAmerican, unpatriotic dikhead.

Be American. Buy American. Buy GM.

Tetsujinn -

Explain to me what European cars are on the market that are “way ahead” of the Americans? As far as I know, the amount of affordable European hybrids in out market is ZERO . The Fusion gets better MPG than the Camry Hybrid – so you’re full of sh!t. This is one of the things all of them are covering now – what the need to work on still is their interiors.

Tesla, who went to GM (and Ford)with his product, will get 220 miles.
100 k is not out of range for all the milionaires who post on this site . The bottom line is that this technology was taken to GM and Ford and now they turned it down and are coming out with an inferior vehicle. Tesla is now partnered with Diamler
GM is “ahead of schedule” but perhaps they should have introduced it right after Toyota introduced the Prius.? Why couldnt the biggest car company ( at that time ) come out with a competitor for the Toyota ?

1115 –

I still don’t know who really is more of an biased idiot, you or NMOFGM. How about Ford? Or VW? They can produce good LOOKING cars AND produce good MPGs. I like my cars not looking awkward and derived from some crazy Japanese anime.

And, I’m retarded.

But Honda. All this talk about GM being the best is wearing me down.

This is exactly what commonsense had in mind. Not that sports cars are common sense,but this is the direction the industry without a doubt will head in. I have always Loved Hondas. Honda we make it simple. This is awesome I like the New Honda CR-Z and the Toyota FT-HS concept car and no doubt the DNA of that Hybrid will be ever present in the upcoming of the Lexus LF-A RafaLL I second the motion this car is Totally cool!
I’d buy one

NMOFGM Good and going to Confession would’nt hurt either for lieing so much!

Right on spot netguru.
Hey triple, when you wrote “…will get 220 miles…” in which car were you refering to? And how is this car superior to the Volt?

Some Geek READ

Yeah, I should go to confession for being so short sighted and blind to the truth. Good call, 2009.

Again, buy whatever you’re inclined to buy. GM shouldn’t be placed on a pedestal.

Read what? Is it the roadster or Model S?

I just want to make a judgement on your stupitidy, thats all. Because Roadster is inferior to the Volt, and Model S will only exist as the Bmw 3-series of 2025.

I am amazed that Prius is in its 3rd Generation and neither GM or Ford have been able to come out with a viable model to compete with it. It just goes to show how backwards and lazy American car manufacturers are.

They are perfectly content cranking out their gas guzzling V8 muscle cars, trucks, and SUVs… while the rest of the world buys hybrids. If the cars don’t sell who cares… the gubment will always bail them out. They have no reason to build anything else. I can say that I will never buy a new American made car again…. and I will wager that there are thousands of others who feel the same way.

OMG NMOFGM are you recanting sir and having a change of heart before us?

does this mean all future ricers will be something between nicola tesla and dr. frankenstein, ricing up their cars with parts of toaster ovens?

@Bankruptcy2009
That’s a different person. Look at the underscore at the end. –>”Need more oil for GM_”

Honda ftw!!

I like the NMOFGM imposter. It evens out his BS!

The car in the Picture is a Honda-fied version of the Maserati Quattroporte.

Well if you are not stupid you can figure out what Im talking about right Some Geek ?

The Volt will wipe Honda and Toyota off the map once and for all. Everyone would rather drive a GM vehicle and once Gm has theirs on the market, everyone will be flocking to it. The hybrid craze really hasn;t taken off and won;t take off until the Volt arrives. Until then, save your money and buy a superior Chevy Cobalt or Pontic G5 which get similar mileage while being better built, way more relible and WAY more respected.

It’s embarrassing to own an import. Drive American. Buy GM.

Wait, strike that. I’m still retarded.

The real king of hybrid vehicles is Ford. The hybrid Fusion is a real car that people can ride in safety, style and still get over 41 mpg. A team of drivers took a stock hybrid Fusion and got over 1400 miles on a tank of gas!! GM is developing this Volt that will not sell because it will cost to much and only the Hollywood movie star tree huggers will buy. They will not be able to recharge the Volt because of the rolling blackouts in Southern California. Go Government Motors!!!!

Crap. I just did an inventory of my house, and half the stuff I own is made in either Japan or China. Guess I’m a hypocrite.

i think we need a separate website where folks who like cars can comment, rather than folks with a corporate allegiance who repeatedly spew biased nonsense…you’re making the world a dumber place with all this bs…

not to mention we now of trolls who are trolling other trolls…you all need a crotch kick, imo…

now have trolls, trolling other trolls, should say…and you still need crotch kicks…

I agree… these forums could use a little active moderation. Some people need to be banned.

The hybrid Fusion is a real car that people can ride in safety, style and still get over 41 mpg
- You can go on Edmunds and Motorweek and check Edmunds got 36.7 and MW got 38.9 so its get more like 37.8 or 38.

This CR-Z looks like an effeminized Mazda that Bruno should be driving. Bring back the classic

Tetsujinn and Rafa LL… We don’t need mini-1115s who dismiss American automakers without a second thought. The fact is that while they have their issues, not only are American companies (Especially Ford) competitive, they produce some great cars. And “Getting bad and unreliable”? In fact JD Powers and Consumer Reports would say the exact OPPOSITE, that especially Ford is making great strides forward. You can hate on American companies all day long, but don’t do it out of ignorance…

Could you say that a American company is competive and is having great cars, when it’s models are only sold in the Us cause they have no chance in any other market? I don’t rhink Rafa LL made an ignorant comment.

American companies aren’t the only ones to have different models in different countries, and I know at least Ford does pretty well in Europe…

But most of my “ignorant comment” was directed towards his “getting bad and unreliable” remark. Where has anyone said that? Most sources (Consumer Reports for one) will tell you that while Ford (The company I follow closely) isn’t perfect, they have been improving for several years now. And GM has their own problems but on the whole I would say they are improving. So how are they getting worse?

SomeGreek@

a lot of other countries that make cars have more national pride then American buyers, and more people there only want to only buy cars made by there countries.

Amen 2Wheeled, amen.

I await the CRZ with baited breath
I need a CRZ with the Si engine and a manual transmission
STAT!
DrFill

Fit Hybrid sounds cool. I’m not much of a Fit lover, myself, but I see them everywhere. They are more of a looker than the Yaris, too.

CR-Z sounds even cooler. 140 hp is enough to have fun with if the weight stays down.

It’s tough for these automakers to make the CAFE and safety standards, all the while keeping the price down. Pretty soon, we’ll be buying cars with technology from Lockheed and Grumman. I’m sure we’ll be paying for it, too.

Okay, here’s the difference between the Tesla and the Volt (which shouldn’t even be in this discussion):

Tesla is an EV that goes 225 miles on a single charge, and then has to be recharged for no less than four hours. Tesla Roadster is also considered a supercar, and therefore is priced as such.

Volt is a serial hybrid that can run on EV only for 40 miles, runs on gasoline (to charge the batteries) for 600 more miles, and then it can be refilled at a normal gasoline filing station within a few minutes. The Volt is considered a family car, and is priced a bit high for my wallet, but it’s much more affordable.

The two vehicles are not comparable in any other way than the fact that an electric motor drives the wheels. One of them actually uses gasoline, the other never does. One must be charged via an outlet in a house or other building, the other doesn’t “need” to be plugged in ever in order to operate.

Neither is superior. It’s like saying green is better than red. It all depends on the use of it, and the needs of the individual.

You can “like on” American companies all day long, but don’t do it out of patriotism….

I ride a Kawasaki every single day 1115, how patriotic do you think I am? The fact that I happen to like Ford, in the same way you worship Toyonda does not make me a zombie patriot.

^I ride a Kawasaki every day as well and id still take a GM or Ford product over a heap of trash Toyota anyday.

Until your japcrap crotchrocket breaks down on you and you realize you should’ve bought a Harley. Jap vehicles of any kind are unreliable, overrated pieces of sh1t, no matter ho many wheels they have.

Be American. Buy American. Buy GM.

Crap, there we go again, speaking nonsense. I forgot that Chevy engines (like the I-6 in the Colorado and their diesels) are made by ISUZU. Oops.

it can’t burn rubber or gas in large quantities, honda has ruined the car for me!

NMOFGM, don’t forget Buell. They are one of the only American cycle makes that have sport bikes, which most Kawasaki riders prefer over cruisers or fastbacks. Singling out Harley is just wrong.

I’ve always wondered why we don’t have any other sportbike makers in the US, except for a couple models from Buell (And I never see Buells on the road anyways). We’ve pretty much left the sportbikes to Japan and Europe. I always wished someone would truly step up and fill that void.

Need more oil for GM and I had such high hopes for you. Tisk Tisk. Listen the Volt if Chevy is lucky to get it out the door will get a few sales it won’t be that big. ANd Honda and Toyota will be just fine.
Meanwhile the Tesla in some ways steals the show- name me any other car on the market that is completely electric that can go for 300 miles on a single charge and carry 7 passengers that my friend is impressive. I like the looks of the S sedan although I think the touch screen they will have problems with that thing. I could be wrong but that has been my experience with them.

…name me any other car on the market that is completely electric that can go for 300 miles on a single charge and carry 7 passengers that my friend is impressive…
ON THE MARKET? Is there any car on the market, at all, doing those?

^ Nope. ^

have you noticed everything NMOFGM says is right out of there commercials. lmao

There goes GM’s pipe dreams of having the sportiest hybrid in the market.