I know a w0man who drove a civic for 17 years, but I’ve never seen an odometer on one at 200K. Or 100k.

Generally speaking, Hondas are unattractive. Their Battlestar Galactica theme is a joke.

Fluffer: You know a lot about dog turds

Commodore:He says that stuff out of raw hatred, because a camaro owner took away his one hoot-in-hell chance of getting laid.

51:L You’re right.For now.

Mazda man: “Honda has a good reputation for quality, reliability, and technology, I just wish they could design a vehicle that looks as good as it operates.”

The hondas that are actually of high quality are generally attractive. The cars range from attractive to laughingly hideous.

SS4Life: The only good digital Gauges were in KITT.

tripleonefluffer: (imitating Reagan) Thereyou go again! Honda Civic: dead at 91K. Cavalier: wrecked at 190K FORD TEMPO: sold at 120K+ Olds: 126K+ and counting.
Wake yo’ dumb ass up!

Cars like this are designed with a purpose in mind… minimize dependency on oil. Is that a bad thing? They can’t, however, change the ways your neighborhood energy company chooses to deliver electricity or natural gas to you.

And here is how you can manufacture hydrogen. Use electricity to electrolyze water. How do you get electricity? You could use solar energy to do so (Honda is already doing that at its refueling station in SoCal, one of the reasons this car will be offered only in that region). Or, you could use Honda’s Home Energy Station that takes natural gas, and not only does it help extract hydrogen, it also has two additional functionalities built-in: water heater for the house, and electricity generator. In this case, if you run the system using solar power, the only association of petroleum would depend on how your energy company supplies to natural gas. Besides solar, electricity could be generated using hydro and wind power, couldn’t it?

Now to address some of the “concerns”… the rear design is more about function than form. An engineer would know. Most folks around won’t have a clue (besides drawing comparisons to everything they detest). Raising the rear deck improves aerodynamics. The entire rear design is to reduce drag, a concept not unique to Prius. In fact, some of you might not have even heard about Insight (which was based on a concept, 1997 Honda JV-X). The same design is seen in Chevrolet Volt concept. And in recently revealed Honda CR-Z which is meant to be a revival of CRX. And that hatch design also happens to mimic the old CRX (which debuted in 1984).

RobCali, you might remember the Hindenberg, but I’m too young to do so. I have read about it though. If you remember the Hindenberg, you might also remember the Apollo 1 tragedy. Do you remember what happened? Oxygen was the culprit. It shouldn’t meant that one must give up breathing.

But, do you think Hindenberg would have been safer if it were filled with gasoline instead? Not quite. Hydrogen is lighter than air, and it will rise quickly even when a fire is introduced, a flame that will go up in the air. Gasoline is not only heavier, it sticks. Imagine firing it up.

The reason hybrids took hold over 8 years was because there was no infrastructure that needed to be built. We just had to wait for people to become comfortable with the technology.

8 years from now we will see a lot of alternative fuel vehicles. More mainstream hybrids than anything else. Hydrogen will be a very small part limited to certain areas of the country where some infrastructure will be built & the buyers dont plan on using the car to leave those hydrogen areas on extended trips – gas portion of hydro/gas cars like the 7 series only get about 150 miles per tank.

Folks, this is the future. In exactly 8 years, hydrogen-powered cars will be what hybrids are today, everyone is going to want one and you will see them a lot (how many Prius’s do you see around your area?)

Also, don’t forget GM’s Chevrolet Equinox fuel-cell program as well.

Coal vs Oil vs Nuclear vs Natural Gas vs Solar vs Thermal

Pick your future environmental protest target from the list.

Humans should be forced to ride a bike to save the earth.

Does the $600/month include the hydrogen?

1c3d0g!!! Did you come up with that play on words with “TOYota?” I swear… because I’ve NEVER heard that before! That’s completely new! COMPLETELY new and TOTALLY original! My God, TOYota, huh? TOYota… Never crossed my mind. It’s funny really! You know, because it’s SO original that I bet no one else on here knows how anyone could have ever thought that up. You must be a true genius or something, making up a play on words like that. TOYota… that’s really clever.

(sarcasm)