Comments on: Honda sells 300 Civic Mugen RRs in 10 minutes

By: DialM4Speed

DialM4Speed — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:05:57 +0000

Awww…. poor US ricers won’t be able to get one. Hahahahahaha

By: BLISS

BLISS — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:30:51 +0000

WELL DONE

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:06:54 +0000

got handling: what do you mean?

GMsales: For some reason, a lot of people choose POS civics (redundant, I know) over cobalts

By: Veda

Veda — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:59:27 +0000

Oh yea… there goes more import bashing from jackjimturkey and Commodore. He finally showed up his true face as the true GM_SALES!

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:15:39 +0000

Nobody in America would chose this POS over a Cobalt.

By: Got Handling?

Got Handling? — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:34:49 +0000

JackJimTurkey,
Then, when you roll out on a twisty track, you’re going to need to pour yourself a big glass of sour mash to drown your sorrows.

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:45:53 +0000

Finally… someone gets it. Nice post, johncui. Can you imagine if everyone was as stupid as some of these idiots? Mercs, Bimmers, Audis and Porsches would only be sold in Germany, Ferraris and Lamborghinis would all stay in Italy, American muscle cars would stay in the US and all the Jaguars and Aston Martins would be stuck in the UK. Why? Because like some of these dumb asses, they’d all think foreign cars are overpriced crap, and they’d only drive cars that their country makes. There wouldn’t be an import market. I know some of these dumb f@*%ers probably think that would be a good thing, but sensible folks know better.

By: johncui

johncui — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:19:36 +0000

check http://www.fastestlaps.com/track3.html for the lap times.

By: johncui

johncui — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:18:34 +0000

jamaica, that’s a good point. you have to evaluate the value of the car with respect to it’s user’s location and culture. being that it’s a production car and laps the tsukuba circuit in 1:06 range and looking at the cars that lap around that time in tsukuba which includes the corvette z06, the ferrari f40, bmw m5, bmw m3 csl, and a few others — I can see why it would sell so quickly.

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:50:51 +0000

Sorry, they’re still 300 monkeys jumping off balconies for ice cream. Enjoy your overpriced ice cream.

Every business in the world should pray that there exists this type of ‘consumer’ to whom they can sell product.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:48:54 +0000

‘Dore:
Then, when you turn the key, there’s REALLY no comparison!

By: Commodore

Commodore — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:23:10 +0000

I never compared Camaros to Civics. Although this IS more in the Camaro’s price range than a Cobalt SS’s price range. Why would you think I was comparing Civics to Camaros — there is no comparison there..i mean just LOOK at the Camaro

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:35:15 +0000

I just don’t see why some people on here think that what they like should be the automotive standard for everyone else. Who says everything you all don’t like is crap? I dislike lots of cars, think even more of them are overpriced, but I don’t think they’re all rubbish. Just not my faves. The Mugen Civic RR is a limited edition Japanese car, done by the most respected Honda Tuner… Japanese or otherwise… using Formula 1 and JGTCC derived technology, and it’s sold specifically in the Japanese market. It kicks ass on the most popular Japanese circuits… Tsukuba and Suzuka, because that’s where it’s intended to be raced. If it’s offered anywhere else, It’ll be because of strong demand for it. Nothing else. It ain’t overpriced in Japan, and that’s where it’s sold. Quit bitching about it already… THEY”RE ALL SOLD, SO YOU CAN’T HAVE ONE!!! Now go spend your $40 grand on something else you actually like… those of you who actually have $40 grand to spend. Jeez…

By: dre

dre — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:08:00 +0000

save money for a 335i and call it a day

anyway, this car has impressive technology with its small powerful motor, would i buy it, no

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:07:57 +0000

1337: who cars?
Go read Sport Compact car and pull your pud. There’s a specific market for this type of vehicle, and it’ll never impress those who like ball-out HP.

HP-per-liter is a bunk argument.

Corner: cobalts aren’t bought by rice-boys.

This is a Mugen product. Callaway or Saleen could sell 300 souped-up aveos or foci in 10 minutes, but what would be the point?

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:40:30 +0000

Lol CC, no GM product would or could sellout in 10 mins.

By: CornerCarver

CornerCarver — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:34:06 +0000

LOL @ Commodore comparing Civics to Camaros

This is a Cobalt SS competitor. And even if Chev came out with Cobalt SS-RR-XX-ZR1 super duper edition, it wouldn’t sell 300 in 10 minutes.

Lame attempt at another stab at imports, when GM is shutting down 3rd assembly line in Oshawa GMC pickup truck line.

Life sucks that bad eh?

By: deutschetouring1337

deutschetouring1337 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:14:33 +0000

Its funny how all the naysayers talk all this BS but this car is built upon information obtained from SCCA Touring/British touring car feedback. All these cars easily push 280bhp+ NA without a turbo. The engine has forged crankshaft, pistons, upgraded rockersarms, revised cams and pushes 240 from the factory. Is it worth it YES, from an american perspective just look at the ignorance above. Its funny how small minded americans are sometimes, especially when they think a 500bhp OHV engine is “Hightech”. Its funny how the Germans, Italians, French,and Japanese are all leading the way for highperformance small displacement engines.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:22:57 +0000

I’m not much of a civic fan but i love those mugens!!!! hot rides

By: Commodore

Commodore — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:20:28 +0000

GM will sell 30,000 Camaros in the first 10 minutes when they go on sale

By: Got Handling?

Got Handling? — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:12:26 +0000

Amazing, the car sells out in ten minutes and there’s still a barrage of posts to say that it was too expensive. I’ll bet you there are people in Honda boardrooms right now debating whether it was too cheap.

By: Rompn4x

Rompn4x — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:45:24 +0000

Ha 300 idiots

By: Blakkarr

Blakkarr — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:36:56 +0000

If HONDA wants to make a Civic worth more than Civic money then they need to invest in finding a way to shove the drive train from an S2000 into their Civic Coupe. But to be blunt, $40K is way too much for a Civic… or most things Honda.

By: jackjimturkey

jackjimturkey — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:05:36 +0000

Impulsive: very good analogy.

snork: $55.01 is too much for a civic, although I will give Mugen and Spoon theirs. Imagine what they could do tuning up a REAL car!

jamaicandude: NSX-R was a ****kicker. JDM, anyway

By: jamaicandude

jamaicandude — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:07:09 +0000

It is the fastest Honda around Tsukuba circuit to date… with the exception of the NSX-R. And it is expensive… no denying that. But the Japanese tuning philosophy is so much different than that in America… and labor is expensive there. Most tuning houses hand build their performance parts, and for example, to increase a vehicles torsional rigidy, a lot of them would rather increase the number of spot welds on critical parts of the body, as opposed to just bolting on a simple chassis brace. And to save weight, they don’t just strip a car out either. That’s why a car like this can sell out in 10 minutes in Japan. To them, they’re getting what they pay for. Not to mention the fact that Mugen is like the Holy Grail of Honda over there.

By: 1487_GM_SALES

1487_GM_SALES — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:59:38 +0000

Still no Cobalt. What is this supposed to go up against the Aveo? THe Cobalt is a different level than this POS

By: Impulsive

Impulsive — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:58:08 +0000

Absolute waste of money.

If 300 monkeys jumped off 3rd floor balconies to catch the ice cream truck, does that make the ice cream from the ice cream truck worth it?

It only makes the monkeys look like stupid monkeys.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:51:11 +0000

looks good

By: autonut

autonut — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:29:34 +0000

You can buy pretty much any car in Japan which has a steering on the right hand side. Although, there not that many US manufacturers go through this exercise, all Australian cars are available, but not purchased.
European cars sell briskly, mostly status symbols.
A4, to get Civic (any Civic) to 85 mph you may need 70HP, max 85-90 if you will not shift above 4th gear during this exercise. The remaining 100 HP is mostly conversation piece. And when coast at 85 in 6th 50-60 ponies are more then sufficient. With speed limit of 70-75 and 10-14 miles of police “good will”(but not last days of the month) where can one use all those ponies? Please let me know, I would love to use mine.

By: buytheredcar

buytheredcar — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:15:27 +0000

The execution looks good. Everything is done in good taste.
The proportions on the Civic just looks odd. Dont like the cab forward
A pillar. Still looks weird to me. Obviously, the coupe has the same problem.

For that money, make mine an EVO

By: R1GHT30U5

R1GHT30U5 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:06:10 +0000

Not that I am going to loose any sleep over this or anything but I have to say… there is another one that wont be sold in the US. We miss out on all the cool cars. Bastards!

By: e46Ne90

e46Ne90 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:53:23 +0000

I heard this new civic type-r beated all honda cars built to date(including NSX) in track time…wonder if this FWD civic does the same…

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:48:44 +0000

and yeah autonut the Mugen here is 30K AND all it is is suspension and wheel upgrades – no more power.

By: A4

A4 — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:47:46 +0000

karkat – its probably because the japanese dont get, or just dont “get” the bang-for-your-buck cars like anything with a Hemi in it, GTO, and cars of the sort.

By: 55amg

55amg — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:23:59 +0000

xxxx this is cool