Comments on: Honda to export Civic Type R from England to Japan

By: chevymanc6

chevymanc6 — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:11:47 +0000

Its soooo ugly! Do the Japs even care at all anymore? I guess not.

By: ayrtonJ

ayrtonJ — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:00:08 +0000

I don’t understand why American Honda and Honda Canada can’t make the decision to offer this car in our market. Just call it the Civic SiR if they are afraid of the “Type R” designation. You would think the JDM craze in the aftermarket world would have made an impact on the dumbasses on making better decisions and bringing cars we want.

By: 2WheeledSpeed

2WheeledSpeed — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:46:40 +0000

My town is filled with punks in Civics, Integras, and Corolla S’s who think they drive Corvettes. I had one try to race me on my sportbike today… If only he knew how little throttle it took to beat him…

RicerisNicer, though I’ll admit the Mustang isn’t the hottest thing on the road, I’d find it funny too if a not even 200HP Civic pulled up next to a 300HP Mustang and revved his engine. In a straight line red light drag race they aren’t faster no matter how you look at it…

By: beatusmongous

beatusmongous — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:08:47 +0000

Kevin, what’s worse is when the 16 year olds in their “souped up” Civics race me in my minivan…

…and they lose.

By: andy

andy — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:58:49 +0000

and Bosley, the ZR1 would/has blow F430 around a track, and it just slightly closes the price gap over the Z06

By: 441Zuke

441Zuke — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:11:04 +0000

Well if it makes you feel better this car is ****. IT DOES NOT HANDLE WELL IT Doesn’t HAVE A IRS rear suspension it has a torsion bar the civic we have does have IRS both the sedan and the coupe. what we are missing out on is the uprated 220hp Japanese motor.

also the civc is not weak sauce it just isn’t a straight line squirter. all a civic Si is a hot civc. If i had to have a car i’d race at a track and not worry about resale appearance ( not that the new civic is great), reliability, maintenance, insurance then the civic ain’t your car but if you value and exciting car that you can live with and has arguably one of the best engine/ manual transmisson combos you can buy,your car is calling.

By: RICERisNICER

RICERisNICER — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:54:10 +0000

KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN

For the most part kids who like to race are willing to race anything, however it is much more common for them to race cars they think they have a chance against. I don’t know where you were raised or how you were brought up, but the mustang has never been anything special. The Si is not far behind at all, and for 10k+ off it’s well worth the price difference.

OMG Guys KEVIN DRIVES A ****ing MUSTANG!!! LUCKY!!!!!

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:22:00 +0000

A4 – You like the 2001 Si because it has a triking resemblence to the GTI… Think about it!

By: RaineMan

RaineMan — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:54:11 +0000

I’ve never understood why Honda doesn’t bring these cars to the US. The Si is weak sauce compared to other “tuner” cars like the Cobalt SS, SRT4, Mini Cooper S, or WRX. These cars would sell, even with a $25,000 price tag.

I also don’t comprehend why the US didn’t get the hatch version of this generation Civic. A hatch is the perfect way to have a small economical car and still have cargo space. I guess they want people to buy the Fit instead… it’s practically the same thing. I’m just not a fan of 4-doors.

By: Bosley

Bosley — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:50:57 +0000

Andy, I don’t know about that. A Ferrari F430 would drive circles around a Z06 Corvette around a street track like Suzuka in Japan, but 7 litres of displacement in the ‘Vette would blow the Ferrari’s 3.6L on a strip easy.

I’m not saying the new Vette (for example) isn’t a sick car, it is. And it’s much better on a street course than its predecessors, you’re right. But for the same reason it’s fast it’s hard to control (being front engine-rear wheel doesn’t help either). They’re just designed differently….

By: Borat

Borat — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:23:09 +0000

Oops sorry, it was 5 cylinders mill (worked like an old blender).

By: Borat

Borat — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:22:20 +0000

carmaster, I wanted to test drive diesel Jetta wagon, and could not find neither diesel with 3 pedals nor Jetta wagen (as they say) in 40 miles radius. Test drove regular Jetta with 4 cylinders and 3 pedals and came to the conclusion that 4 cylinders Civic is light years ahead in NVH, handling and road feel. The thing is that instrument cluster in Honda is build like ’80s Atari game, and it does suck. Jetta is very ergonomically thought out car.

By: carmaster4ever

carmaster4ever — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:52:32 +0000

borat is not finding jetta wagon in stock good or bad? lol armstealer please refer to japanese as ‘japanese’ not ‘japs’ you should learn cultural respect.

IMO wagons are slowly coming back as Americans are starting to think they save more gas than SUVs with the same amount of space in the back ( don’t argue that statement because new elantra touring has more space in back with seats down than nissan murano) Im pro-wagon and we need more of compact ones and midsize ones. Honda should bring this over here, its sport looking, affordable and its an eye-catcher. white and black ones would look nice with sport tires and rims. thats why mercedes and bmw didnt get rid of there’s. they may sell slow but they know what they’re doing! lol

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:52:00 +0000

Couldn’t agree with you more A4!

By: Borat

Borat — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:36:46 +0000

I would just love to see 4 door hatch in US, but wil not happen. Honda got burned on wagons and hatches 15 years ago and will not bring it here even when Jetta Wagen can not be found in stock!

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:34:23 +0000

Seriously i also think Bankruptcy has the automotive intelligence of a 95 year old woman.

By: A4

A4 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:33:40 +0000

I really liked the style of the 2001 Si hatchback but this one is a bit too quirky for my tastes. Still, i’d love to see it in the US.

By: superman

superman — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:47:40 +0000

why not? people are going after small cars here. sell as many as you can.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:42:51 +0000

Correct armstealer. It was definitely VW who pioneered that segment with the Golf.

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:42:02 +0000

No armstealer, It was definitely VW who pioneered that segment with the Golf.

By: aggie531

aggie531 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:19:19 +0000

Can we have the Accord wagon as the TSX wagon please?

By: armstealer

armstealer — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:18:17 +0000

The reason they don’t bring this to the US is because they only sold about 10 of those Si hatchbacks. I had a ‘00 Si, when it was the coupe, and sadly, in 99-00, 160hp was enough to make you say wow.

Unfortunately, the 198hp they put in today is barely adequate as a base engine by today’s standards.

If you are going to get into the who-copied-who game, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the Japs that invented the Hot Hatch either…

By: Need4SSpeed

Need4SSpeed — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:54:37 +0000

Except B2009 Honda has had this general design with the Civic hatch for decades and if anything Ford copied off of Honda when they came out with the Euro spec Focus.

By: Bankruptcy2009

Bankruptcy2009 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:47:51 +0000

I think this is a Rip off of the Euro Ford Focus RS. Imitation but not the real thing. And you know what I say to that. Accept no substitutes.

By: andy

andy — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:21:58 +0000

Bosley, i think that was the american car of the past, with cars like the G8, CTS-v, C6/ ZR1 vettes, hell even the cobalt SS… they are all showing that american cars can be fast(er) down the strip and around the track

By: johnnycanuck

johnnycanuck — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:12:57 +0000

I love it when the odd Asian piece shows up on Speed’s PassTime with enough mods to qualify for the space program and probably costing as much as well then farts its way down the track barely faster than the stock piece. I realize as Bosley points out that’s not their strength but you have to wonder how many of these add-ons are built to just to generate strange noises as opposed to usable power.

By: Audi RS5

Audi RS5 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:11:56 +0000

Jake, that actually goes in all directions. I know of plenty of people here in Germany that would love models sold in the US that aren’t sold here in Germany, those with enough money buy them in the US and have them shipped over but still more could be sold if they were on the European market.

By: JakeK66

JakeK66 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:05:29 +0000

Bosley –

Your selection of cars that haven’t broght over is a bit short, I could list over 100 models that I want to see over here, but alas, Americans probably wouldn’t buy enough of them to make it profitable. Sad, I know, but it’s the truth.

By: Bosley

Bosley — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:29:59 +0000

Kevin, while I agree that quite a few of these kids think they are Paul Walker in Fast & Furious, I also think that these cars are designed to drive differently than your mustang. Most of the AMerican sports cars are designed to be faster in a straight line (ie drag races) but alot of the Asian and European sports cars are designed to be faster on street-style race courses with high speed turns and braking. Just different styles of racing. It’s hard to compare them sometimes as a result.

But yeah, those imports with a big muffler and small 4-cylinder sound like a fart in a can or a kazoo coming off the line compared to a big V6 or V8…….

By: slider5634

slider5634 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:24:09 +0000

For the sake of all that is holy… You’re sending in in the wrong direction!!! If nothing else, import to America and rebadge it as an Acura if it makes you feel better. Just do it. Do it now!!!! KTHXBYE

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:11:17 +0000

The only thing I don’t like about these “souped up” Hondas is the 16 year old kids that get them and act like they are the fastest thing ever!1 I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had them rev at my Mustang. While I know they can (any car can be actually) modded to be faster. It’s still a civic.

By: Bosley

Bosley — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:06:34 +0000

Well along with the Volkswagon Scriocco, this is another great looking car, that’s not a fuel pig, that North America will not be getting.

It’s gotta be a cost issue getting it here, versus how many they think they’d sell (along with safety certification issues maybe). The only words that come to mind are WTF!

By: andy

andy — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:03:18 +0000

if its anything like the Si they can keep it, the only thing more pathetic than that is the Corolla S

By: christianboy10

christianboy10 — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:58:41 +0000

honda does everything backwards.

By: GT Pro

GT Pro — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:54:49 +0000

Boring, when is Honda going to export the better JDM Type-R to the rest of the world?