The only problem with Chinese cars is that, within a half hour after a long drive… you are ready to drive again.

I’ll believe when I see it. Not even Hyundai has been able to build vehicles that cheap…granted China has lower labor costs. Also, any ideas on long term reliability? The cost may be low, but it took Hyundai a long time to build a decent reputation. IMHO I think these cars will turn out to be vaporware.

Really hope they bring these cars to the States soon. With more competition, the consumer wins out in the long run. So good for us, bad for the car makers.

Thats a cool looking drawing, what is that?

Don’t doubt that Chinese made autos will be in the US very soon, and they will be cheap (price). They may not be the best cars to begin with, but neither were the Japanese and Korean makes. The Japanese learned how to sell in the US fast, the Koreans even faster. I don’t think it will be long before the Chinese are producing competitively designed vehicles with the lowest prices in every class. To say that China has lower labor costs is a huge understatement.

Consumer wins out?? I don’t think so. remember the Yugo? That was certainly cheap. Sorry, I’d rather not pay the price of the car in repairs within a year or two. You don’t trust hardly anything from China now, so why would you trust a car from their made by the lowest bidder practically??? Just remember to look for that gold MADE IN CHINA sticker when you by your car so you can remove it to hide your shame of buying one.

Well that drawing sure reminds me of Peugeot 407…

Chad,

You don’t trust hardly anything from China now? Do you live in an empty house? Have you taken inventory of all the Chinese made goods you own now? The computer your posting from is probably mostly from China. The Dell (American company) keyboard I’m using right now has a giant made in China sticker on it. Inexpensive does not always mean poor quality, just has expensive does not always mean excellent quality.

Look at the proposed model lineup of VV. Unlike the Yugo, these vehicles are not designed to simply sell simply on the fact they are the cheapest vehicle available. They will be the cheapest in segment due to the realities of the Chinese economy (cheap labor, less regulation, government support, etc.) This situation is not comparable to the Yugo rollout 20 years ago.

Chad, yeah the consumer wins out, and if you don’t do your homework when buying a Yugo, then you got yourself to blame. But look at all the millions of people who buy Japanese cars that are reliable and cheap. Buy making any product cheaper, it allows more people to afford what use to be things that only “better off” people could afford. Plus competition forces the original players to become better themselves.

In case you don’t know it, many things are made in China or south east asia. And again, it allows us to buy things cheap. I would not like to spend double the money for a decent watch. And I dont’ think most Americans would either. So I guess you spend most of your day removing labels off the stuff you buy… whatever floats your boat.

YES bring them here. and i hope the chinese build a top of the line, s-class fighting luxury car for a very cheap price because of the labor cause muahah. i’ve read in an earlier article of LLN that they are already working with german engineers.

It’s a law of Economics, more choice equals happier consumers and a healthier economy. It stimulates innovation and creates competition. I sure wouldn’t mind a chinese cable company in my neighboorhood at this point. I’m paying way to much for comcast, who has zero competition in this market.

If anyone has any question as to why the price would be so cheap….it’s the difference between the US companies paying union workers $30-$80 an hour as apposed to the Chinese who pay $2 – $3 an hour. GM I believe has the longest average cycle time for manufacturing which I believe is somewhere around 30 hrs per vehicle, where Nissan has an average of 18-19 hrs per vehicle. A lower cycle time, at a lower cost per hour means extreme savings. Just make sure our trusty federal government doesn’t impose such a hefty tarriff that we lose all of those savings.

Maybe the UAW could move over there and kill the cheap labor (don’t read ‘Kill the Laborers’). If they disband here. (see other UAW article)

Chinese cars are really crap. And they are not safe either. Euro NCAP tested a chinese Isuzu rodeo clone and deemed it the worst car they had ever tested.

RangeRoverBoy has the best suggestion for improving our economy: Send UAW overseas to make foreign goods 2-3 times more expensive in the states.

RangeRoverBoy for president !! Go RangeRover. Go RangeRover. Go.

So what if Chinese cars are crap? If they are cheap, people in America and all over the world will buy it. I know plenty of people who won’t spend more than 5k on a car. They get them used.

There’s a whole spectrum of buyers with all different price ranges and all different quality tastes.

#6: I agree.

My opinion:

Let the Chinese cars come to the market. Let the Chinese build a huge infrastructure for car manufacturing. Let the become the biggest auto manufacturers in the world….

Then, let Ford and GM restart the EV program. Watch as ICE cars become outdated. Watch as the government mandates that all new cars sold, other than heavy trucks (GM ‘n Ford bread n’ butter) are ZERO emission.

Then watch the Chinese economy and ego take a hit…

BTW:

I would never own a chinese car… ever. Certain things I’m okay with poor build quality. My mop, my shampoo bottle, and 90% of the crap in my house.

Stuff that must work… my car, my phone (designed in U.S.), my computer (designed, engineered, and manufactured in the U.S. for the most part you dumb pricks)… better be made in the U.S. or Germany.

Hasnt Bricklin been saying he was going to bring these hunks of **** here for 6 years now, only to get delayed over and over for whatever reason? Its a terrible idea as it is, these cars are crap like everyone else has stated, and with all these delays, Alfa will be here before they are for christs sake. Hell, maybe even a Fiat return before these dog **** tacos hit our shores.

John,

“You dumb prick”, that statement sure lends to your credibility. Your ignorance about the orgin of the equpiment in your computer only demostrates your out of touch with the realities of global economics, just like 1c3d0g. Your computer may have several compenents engineered in and final assemly completed in the US, but absolutely most compnents are built outside the US, including China. I worked for a company that produces some of the most expensive, highly rated, and highly desireable notebook computers on the market and every last one of them was assembled in Shanghai.

I love your whole “let them build ICE cars and then the domestics switch up to electric and stick it to the Chinese”. Thats hilarious, becuase thats exactly whats happening to domestics right now.

You and the other ignorants here at LLN simply assume these particular Chinese built vehicles will have bad build quaility. How would you know that? Thats right, you don’t. Thats not to say I think they will be fantastic high quality vehicles. That would be doing the same thing as you, assuming something that I’m actually ignorant of. We won’t really know until production models show up. What we do know, if you bother to read up on the subject, is that VV has consulted established manufactuers for engineering and design. Off the cuff assumptions like yours is the same kind of attitude that the domestics had years ago and landed them in the trouble they are in now. Japanese cars? Korean cars? Dog **** tacos, nothing to worry about….

What I really see from the people who are unable to give Chinese made cars a fair evaluation is xenophobia and racism. Try a little objectivity.

I used to have strong opinions about products made in Asia. I think time has changed that quality control is not as much of a issue as in the past. It’s still too early to see how good Chinese cars will do in the US. We’ll know when the reviews come in.

Yeah John, #18.

Let’s have ICE go outdated, and guess who’s leading that charge? Let’s see, is it the Americans? No!! It’s the Japanese, an ASIAN country. Yeah… let’s make ICE obsolete and put the final death blow to the GMs. GO JAPAN.

That will bruise the ego of “dumb prick” John.

Listen to you morons extoling the virtues of a chinese built car. Even more moronic is Americans buying this Communist junk.

Well if you “dumb pricks” and morons can actually read for once, instead of acting like dumb Americans, you’ll note we aren’t extolling the virtues of Chinese cars, we are extolling the virtues of a free, GLOBAL economy. You know, the process by which afforded you the cheap computers to publicly demonstrate your ignorance.

Bravo Carnese, bravo.