Wow! Subtle but nice changes. If I was in the market I’d pick this over a 5 series.

Yes! They finally changed those oversized rear lights. Looks very nice… still love the navi

it’s just a datsun. The current four-door (don’t know what they call it, but it’s an altima) looks a lot better

yeah those lights were HUGE

Why pick a datsun over a 5 Series? Same mentality as buying jeans with holes already in them.
At least as a Nissan, this is actually a GOOD car, more than I could say for the other faux-luxury divisions.

Eh, car styling still doesnt impress me. And why pick a 5 series over this……. You all need to get your faces from up bmws ass. bmw isnt god sent.

yo anyclerer…. read carefully…. MurcieMe said that he/she (sorry I dunno the gender) would pick THIS car (new Infiniti) over a 5 Series BMW…. not the other way around

Too bad the sport model isn’t called an F package because then this could have a big MF on the decklid.

Very nice… I love this car. I’m a BMW fan, but I definitely would pick this over a 5 series… especially after hearing those crash test results………

Well, this IS one of my favorites amongst the Jap faux-luxury imports. Another is the aging Acura TL

obhatti, you need to read carefully, i was addressing what jackjimturkey wrote, you ass, befor you correct someone like ajerk, read EVERYTHING. AND if i had made a mistake……its a mistake, do you need to correct it like an ass.

what is what all the xxxholes on here, just cause your not face to face doesnt mean you have to be xxxxed up

chill out, anyclearer. mistakes are supposed to be corrected, and obhatti was pretty gentle in their correction of your “mistake.” however, you were a giant xxxhole in correcting obhatti’s mistake. learn some manners.

oh god, am i an xxxhole now too?

It looks as if the rear end of this third generation got slimmed down somewhat, so that it now almost has the look of the original crappy M35. Otherwise, looks good. Also, would be nice to see what the base car will look like, as most of these shots are Sport models.

As far as all these 5-series comments, read C&D two months ago when they had the long term test of this car. The die hard BMW guy said he would strongly consider choosing this over the 5-series. All of the testers were very surprised about how great the car is, and how it held up so well after 30,000 miles (recent 3-series long term test was a mess of repairs, although covered by BMW).

This car gets so little attention in the marketplace, so it’s a great ride for the non-wannabe.

I think it’s an improvement stylewise. The only thing that’s never looked right to me is the rear-most side windows. I’ve read it’s a great performer though. And considering the reported advantage in reliability compared to its primary competition, it sounds like a good alternative to the 5-series.

I wonder what the “new white and violet instrument panel and interior lighting” looks like?

I’ve always liked this car, and I would buy it over anything else in it’s price range.

At this past Canadian Auto Show I spent far too much time inside both the M35 and M45 variants and found the interior to be one of the very nicest places to be in all of cardom (Bently / Maybach / Rolls super-lux excluded). The Audi A8 / A6 and Mercedes CLS were a solid notch above the Infiniti, but that’s it, IMO. The interior of the oft-mentioned 5 series felt cheaper and wasn’t nearly as attractive and inviting. The Infiniti was also nicer than the E Class.

While I like Infinities, the M still looks like a Chevy Impala from the side. Not very up market.

Ive been wondering why all these companies are incapable of putting AWD on their high-powered offerings (Lexus IS, GS, Infiniti M until now), thank you Infiniti for breaking the mould.

the rear looks a bit too much like an Avalon though

this is fantastic. i like it a lot. I love Infiniti’s styling from the FX45 on down. keep it up!

Infiniti started life battling Mercedes and BMW and Lexus.

Going down market Infiniti is now fighting Acura.

The reviews of this car are phenomenal in every car mag (except for dismal mileage). I’ve never driven it, because in real life it’s a tad bland and, like all Infitinis and NIssans, will lose it’s cache a bit early.

I still think MB is the way to go. 10 years later, the designs look fresh and stylish. Plus, there are so many redesigns and models coming out with MB, no one knows if you’re driving this iteration or the last!

BMW much?

I could have mistaken the profile of the car easily with a BMW 3 series. Specifically, I’m talking about the roof line and C pillar, which although the C pillar is longer at a lesser angle, it seems you could have fit the top of this Infiniti M onto the 3 Series (which would look better, but similar).

None the less it’s a beautiful car though. I don’t really like how the rear seems to end abruptly.

I used to own a M35, and i can say id take a BMW 5 over the Infiniti M. The 5 is slightly more expansive up front but when you factor in the resale, and BMW maintenance free program its the same if not cheaper, and you get an ultimate driving machine.

Get Real,
Acura is the innovator of the Jap luxury car without Acura there would be no Infiniti or Lexus. Acuras technology is the most innovative in the business and they were the first to put in dash nav in the RL and TL. The current MDX and TL are the best selling luxo vehicles out there.
Audi MB Bavarian Motor Works then
Acura Lex Infiniti
Dont forget it

Nice update on the taillights, and good keeping up w/ the X models and S models. This is my second choice pick in this class–I’d still take a 5-Series first. This is a solid car though, no doubt about it, it looks good, it’s got muscle, great fit and finish, and supposedly handles reassuringly as well.

1115: “the innovator of the jap (sic) luxury car. Closest there’s ever been to a japanese luxury car was the mitsu diamante.

honda was the first company to figure out that you can sell excrement with sugar on it, and have people pay a premium.

“The curent MDX and TL ate the best-selling luxo vehicles out there.”
I hope by “luxo,” you don’t mean “luxury,” because THOSE ARE NOT LUXURY VEHICLES. One’s an ACCORD, and the other’s a PILOT.

“The most innovatibve technology in the business? sure, there’s no such thing as a bugatti or a vette or a BMW. Hell, a Prius is more inovative than a gussied up accord.

If it’s a honda with more than two (or occaisionally three) tires, you don’t want it.

First off I want to stay with the post and say that the M is a great car. A little pricey but great. I LOVE the new G35 sedan It may be my next car. The Infiniti’s are a lot less troublesome then the Bavarians

JJT: You dont know Jap luxury and you proved it by saying the Diamante was the true jap luxo vehicle. Mitsubishi’s along with your precious Mazdas SUCK!! You don’t know technology anyway Mr” I don’t need navigation aka I cant afford it”
Bugatti isnt a practical auto maker so they dont count. When Bugatti comes out with a car under 40 k so the average consumer can buy it then write back

I did’t say the Diamante was a true luxury vehicle. At least it wan’t an accord!

Maybe you should’ve put in that qualifier before you called honda the most innovative.
I an’t no hypocrite, though. The original JDM NSX was an ass-kicker

I like the “M” although I’d only buy it nissan-badged.

Do you work for garmin? You’re always blathering on about “nav.”
grow up.
BTW, I’m probably going Lambda

JJT: If the Diamante was an Accord or based on a popular car then it would have sold instead of getting a lame makeover and eventually getting dropped. The 929’s/Millenias, the Diamantes were all posers that did not last.

Cars like the TL and the M have been around and will stay around bc they are based on great cars. If you were ever to drive one you would know but instead you want to rant on here about how they are gussied up whatevers and then you praise lesser vehicles. Please make a statement that has some merit to to it

The only thing I can agree on with you is that I like the Lambda’s, well I like the Saturn Outlook. The next Pilot has to come strong to compete with that.

Jim- why do you keep talking about Datsun? Datsun hasn’t existed since 1983.

1115: I’ve driven just about every car i’ve commented on. 929 wasn’t a bad car, the millenia aimed really high, but just didn’t make it. the M, I’m sure, is a good-enough car, so i’m not equating that with the TL. That’s your doing, and if you think they’re in the same class ….

The many Nissans I’ve driven, been in or known owners of, people mostly say they’re solid.

I’m blaming honda for the Cadillac Suburban as well.

maximus: Unless i’m on the clock, I never speak or type the names of the faux-luxury divisions. Nissan makes this easy; I suppose I could call the “L)-fronted toyota’s “cressidas,” since that was their near-luxurty model before they started the faux-luxury division. But the FLHs don’t have any ecquivalent.

Where’d my post go?

Where did my post go?

do-over

1115; i’ll admit that the diamante, for whatever reason, wasn’t a sales winner. The 929 was a nice enough car; the Millenia aimed really high, but just didn’t work.

It was like a lot of the GM products early this decade: a great car, but without much style. That’s ironic, because mazdas today have plenty of style.

But, it was NOT a 626. In retrospect, maybe mazda should have launced a luxury division, but then they would’ve had to either come out with another “luxury” model, or just rebadged the 626 (and maybe the Navajo/Explorer)

Anyway, the fact that the TL is a gussied up accord, is a valid point to stress. Now, someone said the NSX was essentially an accord, and while they kmight have had the same taillights or something, that comparison just doesn’t make sense.

I’ve driven just about every car I’ve commented on.

what “lesser vehicles” have I praised?

I like teh acadia more for some reason, but i’ll probably get an outlook, just to make up for the saturn i should’ve bought instead of my honda. But I might get a CX-9; the Mazda5 is cute enough, but realistically, if I’m going to carry kids and cargo, it’s going to cost me some coin.

maximus: datsun’s what i choose to call Nissan’s faux-luxury division when I’m not on the clock.

Now that old post is back. What’s goinhg on?

I wish that post would dissappear again, because it’s riddled with typos!

JackJimTurkey needs his own section of this site where he can argue with himself.

I was surprised by how rugged and “american” the pilot looked

Looks like any other car in its class boring as usual

IMPRESSIVE

NICE CAR

Let me do a JackJimTurkey post :
Its a nice car but Infiniti’s are nothing but Datsuns. I can afford navigation but I would rather use a map while driving. Do you work for Garmin? I dont use a/c or heat in my house I use fans. Who needs comfort?
I cant afford a BMW and havent actually driven one but I think they are the best cars and not overpriced.
Your jap car is an Accord. The best jap cars were daihatsu. Ford Tempos, Mazda 5’s and GM Lamnda’s can fly

1115: how do you know i can’t afford a BMW? Truth be told, i can’t (yet) afford a 760i, but an X5 is within reach, but i’d rather retire without eating cat food (sorry I’m not like you with mommy and daddy’s zykklon B profits as an inheritance)

I have AC/heat, all that stuff in my exuirban house, and I use them. It get’s hot as a fool here. In Southern cali, there are these great things called Thomas Guides.
If you like “Nav,” that’s fine. I’m actually not against it. I would not mind having it if it were thrown in for no cost, but I’m not paying dealer markup.

daihatsus (at least in australia) were decent, but there’s a reason they left the U.S. market. I wou’d even take an ACCORD over a daihatsu!

Best “Jap” (sic) cars are probably either Nissans (Incl. datsuns) or Subarus — although I drove the new Tundra (for work) Friday and i was impressed, which didn’t match my expectations

Tempos, I understand, are supposed to be crep, but mine, even though I let in run out of oil twice, was the first car I ever sold.

Mazda5 is a nice little car, but not realistic for my family. I’m almost certainly going Lambda

That’s a jackjimturkey (all lowercase) post!

I would take the accord over the daihatsu. Exurban

can’t wait till infiniti comes to europe in 2008. however the will need diesels (i hate them) to make any market impact or smaller petrol engines.
+ mainland europeans are not as open to new brands as the british isles, lexus has not been as successful in mainland europe and for this brand it may takea long time.

definitely a step in the right direction… not really so impressed though. I’d rather have an A6.

I think it looks great but I wonder why I dont see more of them on the road…. then I look at the price tag….. I think it’s overpriced b/c Infiniti would like to compete with Audi/BMW but really can’t…. if this was 5K less, I think it would sell better

I sat in this car at NYIAS, and it was very comfortable. The layout struck me as more visual than functional, though. It reminds me of the 2008 CTS, though I found the CTS to be very functional and much better laid out in comparison.

Honestly, while it’s not a bad car, I would be going straight to BMW at this price point. I wouldn’t even look Infiniti’s way. Or I’d go over to Cadillac once the CTS-V arrives.

The bottom part of the front bumper looks WAY better. More cohesive with the rest of the design. Besides that the shape is just a tad bland. I think this refresh will last Infiniti about 3 years before they need a whole new design.

I agree with Obhatti. I like this car until I see the price.

Somehow Lexus cranked their prices and made it stick, but Infiniti has not had such luck. Not too many people are willing to part with much more than 40k for an Infiniti for whatever reason – although they are superior vehicles to their Lexus counterparts.

I like this car but its too damn big Im a G35 fan. Is Infiniti coming out with a new Q ? They will have to make the engine larger of course but they need a & series fighter

Looks like a 50k Camcord to me..

Wow. What a beautiful automobile. Infiniti, keep it up. I am 32 years and these are the cars I want to drive. Not like those american cars that my 88 year old grandpa loves…..

Looks like a ship and I don’t mean that in a good way. Also looks old and old folks should be driving it. There are more beautiful and sexy cars for that kind of money or less.

I agree with Lucklaster. The style of the M45 was outdated when it came out. In my opinion, Nissan / Infiniti has become way too conservative with its designs. It hasn’t much pushed the envelope since the Murano, FX, or G35 coupe.

My last 2 cnts for the day: the center console looks like **** in either 50K Infinity M45 or 20K Camry or Accord. But they all got that fugly center plastic shiny piece of ****.

Another Benz wannabee from a country of wannabees. Pass.

I think its a nice car, but nothing to get overly excited about. The car is nicely executed, but lacks a certain unexplainable “WOW!” factor. The updates are appropriate and help make this car a little more desirable. This would probably not be my first choice if I was shopping for a car in this class. It is way better looking than the first generation stop gap measure M model that Infiniti shipped over here to the U.S.

Ricardo, I agree with what you’re saying, but I think Lexus is a much more refined car than its infinity counterpart. Everyone made fun of lexus for copying Benzes on their early designs… but it was genius. With a great marketing plan, we now associate a lexus to be more close to its German counterparts than its Japanese one.

Atourya, I disagree about Lexus. I personally think of Lexus as a refined Cadillac of old but with international/euro-inspired styling – basically a very very comfortable vehicle with a lot of gizmos in a package that suggests a hint of German heritage. Benz-like but with even less performance – but a much cushier road cruiser.

I associate Infiniti with BMW-reputed performance but with a different take on style – not necessarily regional. Yes, a Lexus is more refined in a smooth way, but an Infiniti kicks butt in a performance way. Infiniti’s major drawback is that, for the money it does not offer more than it’s established competitors but it also does not have the brand panache or dealership experience. I also have to admit – from Day One I thought the sound of the name “Infiniti” was lame and contrived. Same with the Acura name.

“Why pick a datsun over a 5 Series? Same mentality as buying jeans with holes already in them.”

I guess it’s the same mentality as accepting a recommendation from a janitor as opposed to someone who owns 2K cars. An ignorant who act like a genius is a loud ignorant.

now this is a real japaneese luxury car not like the other toyota brand my grandpa drives.

Well he realized the Japanese make a better car

Senility at such a young age, 1115?

LLN needs to limit posters to 2 posts per article. The same idiots arguing about whos the biggest dumbass is getting old. The racism is getting old (rice, Japs, fat american, krauts, blcks in sclades). The border wars are so grade school I can’t handle it.
One world one love.

Hey Swerve, no one’s forcing you to read all that unloving stuff, dweeb.

The big under-bumper chrome “smile” is an interesting touch.

No thats happens when a person drive a Buick