Comments on: Is this the future of Saab? http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html Car news, reviews, and specs for the auto-industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:18:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Renton http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-189828 Renton Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:36:14 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-189828 CRAP. S2000 will kick its ass. Lets see which one is bolted together tighter at 30,000 miles. CRAP. S2000 will kick its ass. Lets see which one is bolted together tighter at 30,000 miles.

]]> By: V'duv Kux Klan http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-189597 V'duv Kux Klan Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:33:50 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-189597 what a piece of shit!,its a rebadged Solstice, i cant believe that GM is not learning about their mistakes, i cant believe this is TT's competition what a piece of ****!,its a rebadged Solstice, i cant believe that GM is not learning about their mistakes, i cant believe this is TT’s competition

]]> By: v2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-189193 v2 Sun, 09 Jul 2006 04:57:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-189193 #28, "Hmm… but then again this would steal sales away from the soltice and sky which is retarded from a business point of view (maybe more selections?)." I think I like this design more than the Solstice...although I'm not big on these 2 seater cabs.... Maybe they're just trying to cover their bases like you say....a lot of people don't / wouldn't even know that it's a GM product and buy a Saab for the nameplate...and maybe they say cool, Solstice...but lame name and crappy styling...I'll go for the Saab. So I agree about the "more selections" point of view, although you get a design or platform so over saturated that it loses it's cool. It's like the post above....McDonalds, Wendy's...what ever....somewhere down the line the same farmer is selling the meat that goes into the burger. People buy for the wrapper it comes in. (most of them anyways). #28, “Hmm… but then again this would steal sales away from the soltice and sky which is retarded from a business point of view (maybe more selections?).”

I think I like this design more than the Solstice…although I’m not big on these 2 seater cabs….
Maybe they’re just trying to cover their bases like you say….a lot of people don’t / wouldn’t even know that it’s a GM product and buy a Saab for the nameplate…and maybe they say cool, Solstice…but lame name and crappy styling…I’ll go for the Saab. So I agree about the “more selections” point of view, although you get a design or platform so over saturated that it loses it’s cool. It’s like the post above….McDonalds, Wendy’s…what ever….somewhere down the line the same farmer is selling the meat that goes into the burger. People buy for the wrapper it comes in. (most of them anyways).

]]> By: digitalzombie http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-180188 digitalzombie Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:03:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-180188 #27 Normally i'll join you in a fun GM bashing. But I'd choose the corvette over M6. As for the sky and mx5 it's 350z unless they're different segment. I can't believe they're rebadging this. Saab is dead and they're going to beat the dead horse with this crap. Maybe, they're using the Kappa platform but they can improve the body ridgity and good suspension. Hmm... but then again this would steal sales away from the soltice and sky which is retarded from a business point of view (maybe more selections?). #27

Normally i’ll join you in a fun GM bashing. But I’d choose the corvette over M6. As for the sky and mx5 it’s 350z unless they’re different segment.

I can’t believe they’re rebadging this. Saab is dead and they’re going to beat the dead horse with this crap. Maybe, they’re using the Kappa platform but they can improve the body ridgity and good suspension. Hmm… but then again this would steal sales away from the soltice and sky which is retarded from a business point of view (maybe more selections?).

]]> By: stuart http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179898 stuart Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:36:26 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179898 THe cars crap and comment eleven 11 Don, U ain't got a clue what you talking about. The Mercedes Benz GL, BMW X5 is better then any cadillac chevy truck and have worser mpg then either. The sky/soltice is nowhere near as good as the Mazda MX5 and the corvette can't touch the BMW M6. They are all outclassed even thought they are same price/spec/but the GM cars have a shitter badge. THe cars crap and comment eleven 11 Don, U ain’t got a clue what you talking about. The Mercedes Benz GL, BMW X5 is better then any cadillac chevy truck and have worser mpg then either. The sky/soltice is nowhere near as good as the Mazda MX5 and the corvette can’t touch the BMW M6. They are all outclassed even thought they are same price/spec/but the GM cars have a ****ter badge.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179889 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:20:03 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179889 e85 reduces fuel economy by 30 percent, well according to car and driver it does. e85 reduces fuel economy by 30 percent, well according to car and driver it does.

]]> By: _X http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179848 _X Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:15:23 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179848 GM shits out another american plastic car... SAAB should have stayed in Sweden and the cars would atleast have some quality and not some north-american plastic shit alower it... GM ****s out another american plastic car…
SAAB should have stayed in Sweden and the cars would atleast have some quality and not some north-american plastic **** alower it…

]]> By: John http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179809 John Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:07:42 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179809 This looks pretty cool. More weirdness from Saab, which I like. This looks pretty cool. More weirdness from Saab, which I like.

]]> By: Mark http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179786 Mark Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:05:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179786 In your article on the future of SAAB, you state "9-5X, meanwhile, seems to jive with a recent leaked sketch from GM.". The correct word is "jibe". Jive (although a common mistake made in the English language) has a different meaning than that which you are trying to convey. In your article on the future of SAAB, you state “9-5X, meanwhile, seems to jive with a recent leaked sketch from GM.”.

The correct word is “jibe”.

Jive (although a common mistake made in the English language) has a different meaning than that which you are trying to convey.

]]> By: canut4ever http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179742 canut4ever Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:39:10 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179742 I think Gm no realized that rebuilding the Saab brand with half-hearted investments and stop gap models like the 9-2 and 9-7 simply will not do. Nice concepts but Saab need genuine new products now and not later. Maybe then Saab can catch up with its cross town rival Volvo which is in a better shape under Ford. I think Gm no realized that rebuilding the Saab brand with half-hearted investments and stop gap models like the 9-2 and 9-7 simply will not do. Nice concepts but Saab need genuine new products now and not later. Maybe then Saab can catch up with its cross town rival Volvo which is in a better shape under Ford.

]]> By: japforGM http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179677 japforGM Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:24:08 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179677 I'm asian and I love American cars, I own a Cadillac CTS and couldn't be any happier. I have never intented or will buy anything but American cars. I’m asian and I love American cars, I own a Cadillac CTS and couldn’t be any happier. I have never intented or will buy anything but American cars.

]]> By: Jon'O http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179655 Jon'O Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:17:46 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179655 Though I like #18’s idea about a hard top Kappa… Though I like #18’s idea about a hard top Kappa…

]]> By: Jon'O http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179653 Jon'O Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:15:09 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179653 Debating about the quality of Honda and Toyota vs. Chevy and Ford is like debating who makes a better hamburger, Burger King, Carl’s Jr., McDonalds, or Wendy’s. In the end it’s still just fast food and I haven’t eaten that sh** since high school. Debating about the quality of Honda and Toyota vs. Chevy and Ford is like debating who makes a better hamburger, Burger King, Carl’s Jr., McDonalds, or Wendy’s. In the end it’s still just fast food and I haven’t eaten that sh** since high school.

]]> By: Don http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179621 Don Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:38:24 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179621 And one more thing, other than the Sky, Solstice, and Corvette, I don't find any GM vehicles particularly appealing. I don't care for the large trucks and SUVs. I like small, sporty cars, especially hatchbacks. For the most part, GM vehicles are bland and several vehicles are few years behind their counterparts from other brands that have seen more recent updates. I think if GM would shorten their product lifetime to 4-5 years like Toyota, Nissan, and Honda, that would solve that problem. But back to the topic at hand, I do like this Saab roadster photochop. I think if they made a hatchback out of it, Saab would have it made. It would bring back the classic Saab hatchback profile and it would help solve the trunk issues that are present with the Kappa roadsters. Plus, it would be the Kappa hardtop, which would be a good way to further differentiate it from Pontiac and Saturn. I'm not as crazy about the 9-5x. And one more thing, other than the Sky, Solstice, and Corvette, I don’t find any GM vehicles particularly appealing. I don’t care for the large trucks and SUVs. I like small, sporty cars, especially hatchbacks. For the most part, GM vehicles are bland and several vehicles are few years behind their counterparts from other brands that have seen more recent updates. I think if GM would shorten their product lifetime to 4-5 years like Toyota, Nissan, and Honda, that would solve that problem.

But back to the topic at hand, I do like this Saab roadster photochop. I think if they made a hatchback out of it, Saab would have it made. It would bring back the classic Saab hatchback profile and it would help solve the trunk issues that are present with the Kappa roadsters. Plus, it would be the Kappa hardtop, which would be a good way to further differentiate it from Pontiac and Saturn. I’m not as crazy about the 9-5x.

]]> By: Don http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179613 Don Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:21:16 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179613 #15, I'm hardly a GM apologist since I've posted many times before that I proudly drive a Mazda (although I've also stated that I have a Sky on order). I'm just saying that most of the anti-GM arguments are fluff. Yes, GM was arrogant towards it's customers and still is in some respects, but not any more than the almighty Honda and Toyota. I just tend to think that people should buy cars by actually TEST DRIVING them and deciding for themselves, not simply eliminating options because of beliefs and past experiences that may or may not be true any more. #15, I’m hardly a GM apologist since I’ve posted many times before that I proudly drive a Mazda (although I’ve also stated that I have a Sky on order). I’m just saying that most of the anti-GM arguments are fluff. Yes, GM was arrogant towards it’s customers and still is in some respects, but not any more than the almighty Honda and Toyota. I just tend to think that people should buy cars by actually TEST DRIVING them and deciding for themselves, not simply eliminating options because of beliefs and past experiences that may or may not be true any more.

]]> By: Don http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179608 Don Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:12:36 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179608 "And better resale value" I know few people other than Honda and Toyota owners that even care about resale value. Most people around here drive their vehicles until they die. "And better build quality and engineering" See my comment about most GM vehicles not being any worse than Honda or Toyota. No one seems to say anything when Toyota has a massive recall, but everyone jumps all over GM. "And better emissions and fuel economy" I can give you that one since GM is definitely behind the game when it comes to hybrids. But then again, the full-size GM trucks and SUVs that everyone loves to hate, get better fuel economy than the equivalent Honda and Toyota vehicles and with E85, get better emissions. And around here, every station has an E85 pump. "I can go on and on here" Please do. “And better resale value”

I know few people other than Honda and Toyota owners that even care about resale value. Most people around here drive their vehicles until they die.

“And better build quality and engineering”

See my comment about most GM vehicles not being any worse than Honda or Toyota. No one seems to say anything when Toyota has a massive recall, but everyone jumps all over GM.

“And better emissions and fuel economy”
I can give you that one since GM is definitely behind the game when it comes to hybrids. But then again, the full-size GM trucks and SUVs that everyone loves to hate, get better fuel economy than the equivalent Honda and Toyota vehicles and with E85, get better emissions. And around here, every station has an E85 pump.

“I can go on and on here”
Please do.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179601 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:55:58 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179601 Well Don, this isn't Cheersandgears or humpmyGMcar.com so get used to the criticism, it is well deserved for about 30 years of garbage that have insulted people like myself. How's the GMapologists.com website going btw? Well Don, this isn’t Cheersandgears or humpmyGMcar.com so get used to the criticism, it is well deserved for about 30 years of garbage that have insulted people like myself.

How’s the GMapologists.com website going btw?

]]> By: Angelo http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179596 Angelo Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:46:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179596 How about a Kappa with a usable trunk? my old '94 BMW 325 is a great roadtrip car. I get to put stuff in the back seats (under the windscreen) and in the 7.5 cubic feet trunk. Then, my 5-speed with the sports package takes me there doing 400-miles per tank at around 26mpg, top down. That's living. How about a Kappa with a usable trunk? my old ‘94 BMW 325 is a great roadtrip car. I get to put stuff in the back seats (under the windscreen) and in the 7.5 cubic feet trunk. Then, my 5-speed with the sports package takes me there doing 400-miles per tank at around 26mpg, top down. That’s living.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179595 anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:38:45 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179595 the Saabura was bad enough.... "Toyota and Honda just have the advantage of not being bound and gagged by the UAW." And better resale value And better build quality and engineering And better emissions and fuel economy I can go on and on here the Saabura was bad enough….

“Toyota and Honda just have the advantage of not being bound and gagged by the UAW.”

And better resale value
And better build quality and engineering
And better emissions and fuel economy
I can go on and on here

]]> By: Don http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179593 Don Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:34:53 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179593 I'm getting a bit sick of all the anti-GM sentiment on these message boards. Sure GM makes a lot of crappy cars, but they also make several good ones. The Corvette. The Solstice/Sky. Even the full size trucks and SUVs that everyone seems to love slamming are still the best vehicles in their classes. Yes, those classes are shrinking, but they still dominate. And most of the other GM vehicles aren't any worse than Toyotas or Hondas. Toyota and Honda just have the advantage of not being bound and gagged by the UAW. I’m getting a bit sick of all the anti-GM sentiment on these message boards. Sure GM makes a lot of crappy cars, but they also make several good ones. The Corvette. The Solstice/Sky. Even the full size trucks and SUVs that everyone seems to love slamming are still the best vehicles in their classes. Yes, those classes are shrinking, but they still dominate. And most of the other GM vehicles aren’t any worse than Toyotas or Hondas. Toyota and Honda just have the advantage of not being bound and gagged by the UAW.

]]> By: mike http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179575 mike Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:47:32 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179575 GM could preview the new corolla before toyota, just to see you all say how crappy it was, and then they could hold a joint press conference saying how it was the new corolla, and you're all stupid, and then you'd all say how great it was. GM could preview the new corolla before toyota, just to see you all say how crappy it was, and then they could hold a joint press conference saying how it was the new corolla, and you’re all stupid, and then you’d all say how great it was.

]]> By: chi dell http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179563 chi dell Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:26:20 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179563 more junk from GM. well mabey things will go better for them when toyota buys them out.......the dragon see the general as easy prey!!!! more junk from GM. well mabey things will go better for them when toyota buys them out…….the dragon see the general as easy prey!!!!

]]> By: Thing2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179560 Thing2 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:20:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179560 having the key on the floor prevents hot wiring doesn't it, since it is much harder to break the plastic of a center console than then yanking on the steering column, no? having the key on the floor prevents hot wiring doesn’t it, since it is much harder to break the plastic of a center console than then yanking on the steering column, no?

]]> By: Mike http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179516 Mike Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:16:01 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179516 Good looking roadster, the rebirth of teh Sonnet is coming........and I can't wait! Not too sure about that wagon, but then again people loved the Chevy Nomad concept, so I guess it's worth a shot. Besides, a turbo-charged sports car, with a decent, non-cheap GM feel would definitely draw some attention....though the key better be in the RIGHT place and there better be Night Panel! Real-wheel drive, why not? Could be a whole new direction for the company, as long as they keep their personality and reamain unwilling to sacrifice quaility. This is definitely looking promising... Good looking roadster, the rebirth of teh Sonnet is coming……..and I can’t wait! Not too sure about that wagon, but then again people loved the Chevy Nomad concept, so I guess it’s worth a shot. Besides, a turbo-charged sports car, with a decent, non-cheap GM feel would definitely draw some attention….though the key better be in the RIGHT place and there better be Night Panel! Real-wheel drive, why not? Could be a whole new direction for the company, as long as they keep their personality and reamain unwilling to sacrifice quaility. This is definitely looking promising…

]]> By: Thai Ladyboy http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179511 Thai Ladyboy Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:07:06 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179511 Saab has finally found its design language and I think it has more legs than Volvo's "shoulders" theme which seems to be played out already. Saab has finally found its design language and I think it has more legs than Volvo’s “shoulders” theme which seems to be played out already.

]]> By: I'm not Canadian Thank Goodness http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179501 I'm not Canadian Thank Goodness Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:48:38 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179501 #6 link to your site please. Well this is a Canadian site Trollhattansaab, what do you expect. #6 link to your site please. Well this is a Canadian site Trollhattansaab, what do you expect.

]]> By: Derek http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179489 Derek Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:28:59 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179489 I'm really sick of GM rebadging. They should make a different set of platforms for every one of their brands. I can't believe they would use kappa for Saab. They should make a brand new small-RWD platform if Saab is to get a roadster. (sarcasm) I’m really sick of GM rebadging. They should make a different set of platforms for every one of their brands. I can’t believe they would use kappa for Saab. They should make a brand new small-RWD platform if Saab is to get a roadster. (sarcasm)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179485 Anonymous Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:17:57 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179485 Leave it to GM to rebadge the Kappa for a Saab. Where's the Buick, Chevy and Caddy versions of this thing? How bout a GMC? Leave it to GM to rebadge the Kappa for a Saab. Where’s the Buick, Chevy and Caddy versions of this thing? How bout a GMC?

]]> By: Thai Ladyboy http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179483 Thai Ladyboy Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:13:15 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179483 No such thing as can't, Saabs diehards are so few in number new Saabs can be anything that sells as long as it is Scandinavian in design. Go for it Saab this is awesome No such thing as can’t, Saabs diehards are so few in number new Saabs can be anything that sells as long as it is Scandinavian in design. Go for it Saab this is awesome

]]> By: British_Rover http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179482 British_Rover Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:11:51 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179482 Saab can't be RWD. Saab can’t be RWD.

]]> By: peter g http://www.leftlanenews.com/is-this-the-future-of-saab.html/comment-page-1#comment-179479 peter g Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:09:17 +0000 http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/06/27/is-this-the-future-of-saab/#comment-179479 Thunderbirds are GO! Thunderbirds are GO!

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